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00:56<SpeedyG>infinity0: maybe at fosdem end of this month? ;)
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07:19<medu>Hi
07:19<medu>So I have this debian server running. I'm running rkhunter every 5 mins from cron and recently it started finding a few hidden ports every now and then. From what I understand, a hidden port could just be one that is in wait_close state. So is this something to worry about?
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07:31<unkn-error>hello !
07:31<unkn-error>do you guys know a screenshot / printscreen tool which is able to upload the printscreen to some image host website?
07:33<unkn-error>there was some desktop enviroment or some linux distro which was able to do that but I do not remember which one / which was the name of the printscreen tool
07:33<unkn-error>it was so easy, just hit printscreen on keyboard and select from the menu "upload to that imghost website" then yah had a link to the picture
07:34<jm_>shutter can do that apparently
07:42<petn-randall>medu: I don't know what a "hidden port" is supposed to be. Maybe the upstream documentation knows more about this?
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07:51<unkn-error>jm_, Thank you
07:52<jm_>unkn-error: enjoy
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07:56<enyc>medu: hrrm I've never been very impressed by rkhunter in first-place ...
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07:58<enyc>medu: that said, the buster updated version, may be better
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08:01<themill>unkn-error: KDE's spectacle can also do that
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08:11<unkn-error>anyone here used Resilio sync? (it's like synchting) https://help.resilio.com/hc/en-us/articles/206178924
08:13<unkn-error>I installed the deb, and started the program under the current username, connected to it within the browser but if I wish to select the folder /media/myusbexternal_hardisk or /mnt/something it is telling me that I do not have write permissions
08:13<unkn-error>I did usermod -aG user_group rslsync and chmod g+rw synced_folder
08:14<unkn-error>for this path " /home/rslsync/Resilio Sync " there is no problem
08:14<phos>unkn-error: have you tried just giving the user rw-rights? plain chmod?
08:15<unkn-error>to do that?
08:15<unkn-error>*how to do that?
08:16<phos>given the current user rw-rights to the syncfolder? no thte group but the user?
08:17<medu>enyc: Under the hood it just uses unhide-tcp to find those hidden ports
08:18<unkn-error>phos, if I go with the filemanager (pacmanfm) in those folders I have rw acces with my username
08:18<unkn-error>phos, i did: --> usermod -aG pi rslsync <-- where pi is my current username and rslsync is the username of the syncapp
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08:19<unkn-error>phos, I also did -->> chmod g+rw /media/pi/128kingston
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08:20<medu>petn-randall, enyc: hmm, this sounds more serious: from man unhide-tcp: unhide-tcp is a forensic tool that identifies TCP/UDP ports that are listening but are not listed in /bin/netstat
08:20<phos>unkn-error: and pi have execute-rights to the folders in /media/?
08:21<elwisp>unkn-error: i think i would script it with scrot and just push it to an AWS bucket or such
08:22<unkn-error>I don't know if pi have execute-rights, anyway the filesystem on the 128kingston is exFAT
08:23<phos>unkn-error: you need execute-rights to access folders. pure rw won't cut it all the way...
08:23<unkn-error>view content / change content / acces content: anyone
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08:25<unkn-error>hmm, so that will be " chmod +x /media/pi/128kingston/ "
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08:26<phos>unkn-error: yes
08:26<phos>unkn-error: you should have something like 760 for permissions
08:26<phos>unkn-error: depending who you want to access the folder
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08:27<unkn-error>I wish that everyone /anyone should be able to acces the usb stick
08:27<phos>unkn-error: chmod 777
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08:28<petn-randall>unkn-error: Are you running on Raspbian?
08:28<phos>unkn-error: not secure but anyone will be able to acces it
08:29<unkn-error>yep, raspbian
08:29<petn-randall>!raspbian
08:29<dpkg>Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/
08:29<unkn-error>I k
08:29<petn-randall>unkn-error: It's best if you ask in their channel, as the issue might not even be reproducible in Debian. ^^^
08:30<phos>didn't make that connection regardless of the username XP
08:31<unkn-error>phos, I was tricked you :P
08:32<phos>unkn-error: NOOOOO!!!! ;)
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08:33<unkn-error>however I will try this on pure debian next week if I will have spare time
08:33<unkn-error>somehow I messed up my deb install on laptop when changing the rom on one phone
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09:26<unkn-error>phos, petn-randall problem solved. I have write acces now. I guess it was related to mounting the stick to /media/*something instead of /mnt. I with help of a guy from raspian irc chan I formated the usb stick to EXT4 filesystem, then added the mounting line in /mnt/128kingston (by label with nofail option), then chmod 777 on and now resilio sync can write into that folder.
09:26<unkn-error>*fstab mounting in /mnt solved did the trick
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09:31<jhutchins_wk>For some unfathomable reason, the Powers That Be have decreed that ad-hoc mounts shall be root only.
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09:52<sqrt{not}>jhutchins_wk: I plugged in a FAT USB stick, some gnome thing automounted it, and I see this
09:52<sqrt{not}>drwxr-xr-x 6 lwp lwp 16384 Dec 31 1969 UDISK 2.0
09:52<sqrt{not}>files under that all 644, directories 655
09:53<sqrt{not}>excuse, directories actually 755
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12:09<tanja84dk>I have a question is there a place to download a older version of the debian 9 installer
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12:11<petn-randall>tanja84dk: There might be one in the archives. Why do you want to use an older one?
12:12<tanja84dk>petn-randall, that is because I want to test my local apt-mirror afterwards so I need older packages to be able to upgrade them from the local mirror after the install
12:12<petn-randall>tanja84dk: You could also test it by just installing packages.
12:12<tanja84dk>its the only way for me to test it prober before I rool the mirror out on my production server
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12:15<tanja84dk>true but I just want to be completely sure because I know some base packages need both 64bit and 32bit and its to be sure that both work. and unfortunally I cant remember wich where both are needed
12:17<petn-randall>Well, the netinstaller is from 2017, AFAICS.
12:18<petn-randall>Oh, not quite. But still 2 months old.
12:18<petn-randall>tanja84dk: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/stretch/main/installer-amd64/
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12:18<blast007>tanja84dk: here's an archive of the ISOs: https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/
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12:19<blast007>I'm assuming they're looking for an older ISO so they can start with outdated packages and then test upgrading them
12:20<tanja84dk>you are correct blast007
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12:21<tanja84dk>and thanks both for the links
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13:19<tanja84dk>petn-randall, btw the net installer didnt work because it still downloaded the newest but I fount a full iso image from blast007 link and installed that
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15:24<VinAlencc>Hey, guys! How are you? I'd like to know where I can find a tutorial, blog or anything similar which could give me instructions on how to compile and install squid-4.5 over Debian 9.6 (with all dependencies and options). Looking in the Squid's official website, I didn't find it, except the basic compilation process.
15:25<petn-randall>,v squid
15:25<judd>Package: squid on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.7.STABLE9-4.1+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 2.7.STABLE9-4.1+deb7u3; stretch: 3.5.23-5+deb9u1; stretch-security: 3.5.23-5+deb9u1; buster: 4.4-1; sid: 4.4-1
15:26<petn-randall>VinAlencc: Given that 4.5 isn't even in sid yet, your most sucessful option is to follow the upstream instruction on compiling it.
15:26<VinAlencc>Okay, thanks. If I include buster or sid repository, will it somehow broke my system?
15:27<petn-randall>VinAlencc: Pretty sure, yes.
15:27<petn-randall>!frankendebian
15:27<dpkg>When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. Ask me about <reinstall>
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15:27<VinAlencc>I got it. Thanks, petn-randall
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15:28<petn-randall>VinAlencc: Any reason you need 4.5? 3.5 looks pretty solid in stretch.
15:28<VinAlencc>petn-randall: I just want to update it.
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15:28<petn-randall>errr
15:28<petn-randall>!sns
15:28<dpkg>Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>.
15:29<VinAlencc>Okay
15:30<VinAlencc>Well, thanks. See you guys.
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15:43<jimpop>sooo, there's a point release today. 9.7 yay! Where's the details on what's updated? Usually there's an email on one or more of the lists, but I guess I missed those.
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15:46<jimpop>as far as I can see the only pkg updated is base-files
15:47<jimpop>or maybe the mirrors are all still behind
15:47<piper>jimpop: https://www.debian.org/News/2019/20190123
15:48<jimpop>piper: thanks!
15:49<piper>jimpop: np
15:49<jimpop>someone should post that to the main list as generally people most likely expect a point release to include more than 1 or 2 pkgs
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18:30<l3os3mili3>Is it important to use apt package signing keys?
18:31<sarnold>l3os3mili3: what specifically do you mean? there's a efw different "signing" mechanisms..
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18:43<l3os3mili3>Is it important to use apt package signing keys?
18:44<sarnold>l3os3mili3: /etc/apt/trusted.gpg* YES, debsign, no
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18:50<l3os3mili3>which keys do I have to pick from sarnold
18:54<l3os3mili3>it looks like the gpg keys are in place but apt still reports packages not verified
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19:09<l3os3mili3>sarnold such as: install these packages without verification? [y/N]
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21:05<sdk>Q: is there a way on Stable to search other repositories (testing, unstable) through the command line?
21:09<drakonis>-t
21:09<drakonis>well
21:09<drakonis>actually nevermind
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21:13<sdk>drakonis: sadly the repo needs to be in your sources.list for that and I definitely don't want to add unstable :p
21:14<drakonis>aptfs maybe?
21:14<drakonis>the closest best thing
21:14<sarnold>could you pin them so they would be ignored?
21:14<sarnold>rmadison?
21:18<sdk>sarnold: pinning them? you mean it's possible to do that on a whole repository?
21:21<blast007>sdk: what kind of searching are you wanting? something that can be parsed, or are you just wanting some way to look up packages and versions? if the latter, you could access https://packages.debian.org from a text browser like 'links'.
21:22<rwp>There is also the channel bot that will report versions of packages in every suite.
21:22<rwp>,v coreutils
21:22<judd>Package: coreutils on amd64 -- wheezy: 8.13-3.5; jessie: 8.23-4; stretch: 8.26-3; buster: 8.30-1; sid: 8.30-1
21:22<sdk>blast007: the later. I just find apt more convivial
21:22<sdk>:)
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21:28<sdk>looks like sarnold soluton should works if I set the pinning priority to -1 (never install the package even if recommended).
21:33<infinity0>SpeedyG: i won't be at fosdem but i managed to find the hoodie, it's this one https://enventelibre.org/debian/103-sweat-shirt-debian.html
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21:42<sarnold>sdk: woot, sorry to dissapear like that, but it sounds like you found it :)
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21:57<sdk>sarnold: yep thanks for pointing me in the right direction ;)
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