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03:52<xxzz^>registration at Debian forum is impossible
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03:53<xxzz^>I guess it is disgned to discourage users from posting their queries
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04:02<furrymcgee>actually you could use the bug tracking system but I dont know how to address forum team
04:06<rant>idk what your problem is but I can assure you registration is not impossible, I and many others have done it
04:07<jm_>the FAQ says IP may be blacklisted
04:08<furrymcgee>in irc too?
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04:09<jm_>well yes, k-lines etc.
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04:41<xxzz^>rant: I don't have a gui and I can't process captcha with elinks or w3m
04:42<xxzz^>tried registering from phone but the captcha challenge failed over half a dozen times
04:47<xxzz^>I don't think they k-lined my IP
04:48<jm_>yeah if you see the page then it's probably not that, it also helps if you include all the details with your problem report here
04:49<xxzz^>a public forum shouldn't k-line any IP address anyway
04:50<xxzz^>my problem is that the systemd doesn't bring up networking interface during boot
04:52<jm_>are you using systemd.network?
04:52<xxzz^>yeah I suppose
04:53<xxzz^>I configured network thru interfaces
04:53<jm_>/etc/network/interfaces? then it's not systemd.network
04:54<xxzz^>okay
04:54<xxzz^>is it safe to disable systemd.network
04:54<jm_>does it work if you run ifup -a as root?
04:55<xxzz^>I see interfaces
04:55<xxzz^>let me pastebin
04:57<xxzz^>jm_: https://paste.debian.net/1064959/
04:57<jm_>xxzz^: i'll be back in about 30-40 minutes if no-one else helps you till then
04:57<xxzz^>thats fine i will be here, take your time
04:57<xxzz^>thank you
04:58<xxzz^>major problem is that I can't connect to wireless interface at all, my firmware is okay
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05:00<duclicsic>xxzz^: I'd first suggest you avoid future use of ifconfig and route commands, they are deprecated in debian and should be replaces with the iproute2 suite.
05:01<duclicsic>systemd will only be involved if you configure your network through files in /usr/lib/systemd/network and /etc/systemd/network, etc..
05:01<duclicsic>so either use them, or use /etc/network/interfaces for the old fashioned way
05:02<duclicsic>personally I have not made the switch to systemd for network config yet so I'm not familiar with how it's done
05:02<xxzz^>i prefer interfaces
05:03<duclicsic>cool. make sure you have nothing in those systemd config directories then
05:04<duclicsic>it's clear from your paste that just running dhclient on enp5s0 gives you working connectivity though, so what's the trouble?
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05:04<duclicsic>might want to pastebin /etc/network/interfaces too
05:04<xxzz^>I am using net-tools because I've never used ip
05:05<duclicsic>good time to start learning
05:05<duclicsic>but tbh you shouldn't need to touch them at all for a basic network setup
05:05<xxzz^>yeah
05:05<xxzz^>i don't have a basic setup
05:06<duclicsic>what is non-basic about it?
05:06<xxzz^>3 interfaces with different routes and soon there will be more once I configure qemu OpenBSD instance
05:07<xxzz^>I need wifi running in order to bridge it with geust OS
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05:07<duclicsic>well if everything is correctly configured in your interfaces file it should all come up with appropriate routes and such on boot
05:08<xxzz^>I think I have configured it alright
05:08<xxzz^>i will paste it here
05:09<xxzz^>interfaces - https://paste.debian.net/1064963/
05:10<xxzz^>I have put wireless on class a atm for testing purpose
05:10<xxzz^>sorry class c
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05:11<duclicsic>those 'route add' statements are not needed, and also wrong
05:11<xxzz^>okay
05:11<duclicsic>and you need to add the interfaces to the "auto" line for them to come up automatically on boot
05:11<xxzz^>I will remove those
05:11<xxzz^>okay
05:12<duclicsic>i think you can do them all on one line, e.g. "auto lo enp5s0 enp6s0 wlp4s0"
05:12<xxzz^>they were on auto first, I posted that paste earlier
05:12<xxzz^>routes I added just now but if they aren't necessary i will remove them
05:12<xxzz^>okay
05:12<duclicsic>and having multiple default gateways configured is likely going to cause you problems
05:13<duclicsic>does every one of these networks have a real path to the public internet?
05:13<xxzz^>yes
05:14<xxzz^>at some point I will put this box behind OpenBSD appliance and have it route all the traffic
05:15<duclicsic>well I imagine it's going to just use whichever default route gets configured first
05:15<xxzz^>I can configure it with ifmetric
05:15<duclicsic>i see two of them are the same anyway as you're connecting with wired and wireless to the same network
05:15<xxzz^>that is not a major issue
05:16<duclicsic>having two interfaces on a single network can cause some problems though
05:16<xxzz^>I am not sure why wireless isn't running
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05:16<duclicsic>e.g. by default linux will answer ARPs for an address confiugred on any interface, so it can answer arps for the WIFI IP on the wired interface, and it can cause a race condition
05:16<xxzz^>I put it that way for now for fixing wireless
05:17<duclicsic>so you may want to look at the sysctl config net.ipv4.conf.all.arp_ignore
05:17<xxzz^>later wireless will go on 10.0.0.0/8
05:17<xxzz^>okay
05:18<xxzz^>once I fix inline IDS/IPS I will move wireless on different subnet
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05:22<xxzz^>alright I think I got this, now I see race condition
05:22<xxzz^>thanks duclicsic
05:23<xxzz^>I had some strange configuration in /etc/systemd/network/static.network
05:23<xxzz^>it was as per the wiki
05:24<October>I installed an app in wine and it put an icon on the Gnome Application Picker. How do I get rid of the app icon?
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05:25<xxzz^>my resolv.conf gets wiped out after shutdown and supersede domainnames configuration in dhclient.conf doesn't work
05:25<October>The app uninstaller would not run, so I manually deleted it, but I still have the icon left over and don't know how to remove it
05:25<duclicsic>xxzz^: your interfaces are all statically configured, there will be no use of dhclient in this setup
05:26<xxzz^>duclicsic: fair enough
05:28<xxzz^>duclicsic: many thanks, it works now https://paste.debian.net/1064965/
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09:08<codeo>hello, I have a question.
09:09<codeo>Is the /usr/lib/pm-utils/power.d directory provided and run by the systemd power manager?
09:09<codeo>apologies for incorrect terminology
09:09<codeo>I'm not exactly sure about the systemd services
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09:11<iovec>no, not by systemd
09:11<iovec>(there is no systemd power manager either)
09:11<codeo>but I don't have pm-utils installed
09:11<codeo>is that why my script doesn't run?
09:11<iovec>quite possibly
09:12<petn-randall>codeo: Likely. apt-file can tell you which package provides that dir.
09:12<petn-randall>!apt-file
09:12<dpkg>apt-file is a utility used to find which package owns a given file - or list files in a package - even if it is not installed: "aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update" ; then "apt-file search filename" to see a list of packages containing filename (can also use a regular expression; see man apt-file). You can also search online, ask me about <pdo>. See also <judd-file>, <auto-apt>, <dlocate>.
09:12<codeo>dpkg -S as well?
09:12<dpkg>Package: as well: Status: install ok installed
09:12<petn-randall>codeo: Also just uninstalling a package will keep the config files in place, and even purging a package will leave the directories there if it finds files in those directories.
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09:13<codeo>I'm pretty sure it was there when I installed the system
09:13<codeo>it's a fresh install
09:13<petn-randall>That doesn't contradict anything I said.
09:13<codeo>dpkg -S says it's provided by hdparm, wpasupplicant, anacron
09:13<dpkg>Badgers ate my says it's provided by hdparm, wpasupplicant, anacron!
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09:14<codeo>so those probably have power saving scripts
09:14<codeo>but they aren't run?
09:14<petn-randall>!goal
09:14<dpkg>Describe your goal, not what you think the solution is.
09:14<codeo>because there is no pm-utils?
09:14<petn-randall>Uh ... so? I see no problem there.
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09:14<codeo>I'm trying to set the CPU governor to performance on AC and powersave on battery
09:15<codeo>but the script in the dir didn't run
09:15<codeo>and i was put off by the pm-utils name
09:15<codeo>since it's not installed
09:15<petn-randall>If you want it to run, you need to install pm-utils.
09:15<codeo>alright
09:16<petn-randall>If you don't install pm-utils, those config files just lie there, so no harm done.
09:16<petn-randall>codeo: Note that setting your CPU governor up like that will just waste power on AC, and shorten your battery life on battery.
09:17<codeo>why?
09:17<petn-randall>codeo: Pinning your CPU to the lowest frequency just means it'll spend longer running a task, and it won't be able to go into low power mode because it's running longer.
09:17<codeo>hmm
09:17<codeo>I'll try it a bit
09:18<petn-randall>codeo: And pinning it to the highest frequency just means more waste heat, so louder CPU fan for no gain. Wost case is your fan can't keep up and the CPU starts throttling, so it'll run slower than before.
09:19<codeo>petn-randall: if there's no systemd power manager or anything like that, what does systemctl suspend/hibernate do>
09:19<codeo>?
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09:20<codeo>or through what does it toggle the system suspend
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09:21<iovec>suspend.target is activated, it provides a little service that will suspend the system
09:22<iovec>similar for other modes (hibernate, s2h, etc)
09:22<iovec>logind also has some logic to register watches on buttons to sleep/shutdown the system, suspend on lid close, etc, handle ACPI, etc
09:23<iovec>but it all happens through the same mechanism in the end
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09:23<codeo>ah so it just handles a service that writes to a file in /sys or something?
09:23<codeo>i remember a file with the state
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09:25<iovec>yes
09:25<codeo>thank you
09:26<iovec>you can also configure what it writes, you can change what state to put the system into when suspend/hibernate is done, to halt or shutdown, etc
09:26<iovec>man systemd-sleep.conf
09:28<codeo>right thanks
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09:42<codeo>what is the relationship between UPower and systemd?
09:42<iovec>nothing, two separate projects.
09:43<codeo>I have both on my system now
09:43<codeo>so which takes priority
09:43<petn-randall>codeo: One is a init system, the other is a service providing power management abstraction via dbus.
09:44<iovec>DEs inhibit logind's power stuff, so whatever you configure as per your desktop will take priority
09:44<codeo>sorry what's DE?
09:44<iovec>desktop environment
09:45<codeo>oh
09:45<codeo>how can I configure it to not use the UPower/Xfce Power Manager settings but only the systemd config?
09:49<iovec>UPower is more about emitting status and properties on the power devices, logind will still be used to trigger suspend/hibernate etc I think, but as per your DE configuration, but it won't be logind anymore directly reacting to the events, your power manager thingy instead making D-Bus method calls to it instead
09:50<iovec>I don't use a desktop, but I guess disabling everything power related will make end up in logind handling them, but not sure
09:50<codeo>Ohh
09:50<codeo>Very helpful thanks
09:50<iovec>you most likely want your DE to do it, to eg. lock the screen before going down etc.
09:50<codeo>Is there a conflict between pm-utils and any of those?
09:51<iovec>no idea about pm-utils, haven't used that for a while either
09:51<codeo>ok
09:52<iovec>you can see the inhibitors list with systemd-inhibit --list
09:53<iovec>some will have the mode as "delay" which they can use to do some preparatory tasks when suspend etc happens, some will have block, they just block logind from triggering on those events
09:53<iovec>or you may see nothing at all either
09:53<codeo>I'm going to test out removing the power manager in a VM
09:53<codeo>so that logind can handle all the power events
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12:15<TLGL>hey guys so i was wondering i have a sd card as fat32 but i need to reformat it to change the clustersize to 32000 im looking at the format menu avail via the file explorer and i don't see an option to change the cluster size would any of you know how to change this?
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12:35<xxzz^>TLGL: mkfs.vfat -s (specify sectors per cluster)
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12:41<TLGL>ok so where would i put the mount point and trying to remember it from before i think it was /mnt/sdmmc/ but im not sure
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12:44<TLGL>xxzz^: forgot to tag you on that comment
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12:47<TLGL>i tried to find anything on mkfs and it said command not found when trying to pull up a help or manpage
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12:51<TLGL>ah nm i had to log in as root
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12:57<TLGL>xxzz^: from the man page it doesn't really show where to put the mount but from the options at the end of --help it appears the mount would be at the end of the command before i try this and convert my linux part to fat32 lol if it could do this i hope you could clarify that
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12:58<TLGL>i would also need help trying to find the mnt point for my sdmmc card also as doing a listing on /mnt/ doesn't show anything
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13:02<xxzz^>mkfs.vfat -n 'NAMEOFYOUR CHOICE' -s 250 /dev/<device>
13:02<xxzz^>mount will show you mountpoints
13:02<TLGL>-s would be 32000 right for the size i need
13:02<xxzz^>no it is sectors per cluster
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13:03<TLGL>yes i need 32000 sectors per cluster
13:03<TLGL>its for my wii i can't put dlc on it till i have 32k per cluster
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13:04<xxzz^>okay
13:04<xxzz^>you don't need to mount the card for formatting
13:05<xxzz^>fdisk -l will show you the card when you plug it in
13:05<mnuhmnuh>shouldn't be mounted during formatting. :-)
13:05<TLGL>mkfs.vfat -n Wii -s 32000 /dev/mmcblk0 it auto mounts
13:05<TLGL>how can i unmount it then so i can format it
13:05<mnuhmnuh>umount /dev/...
13:06<xxzz^>mount will tell you mount point
13:06<TLGL>yup i got it
13:06<xxzz^>umount <mountpoint>
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13:08<TLGL>ok it looks like ti
13:08<TLGL>it did it how can i check the sector size
13:09<mnuhmnuh>fdisk -l ...
13:10<TLGL>still showing as 512 per sector
13:11<TLGL>mkfs.vfat -n wii -s 32000 /dev/mmcblk0p1
13:11<xxzz^>cat /sys/block/<device>/queue/hw_sector_size
13:12<xxzz^>-n 'putfancynamehere'
13:12<TLGL>dev would be /dev/mcblk0 or with the partion number p1
13:12<xxzz^>try mkfs.vaft -s 32000 /dev/xxxxxxxxx
13:13<TLGL>ok with it as vfat not vaft right
13:13*mnuhmnuh pedant. :-)
13:14<TLGL>ok it just went back to the options i think
13:14<TLGL>how do i clear screen i forget
13:15<xxzz^>yeah vfat
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13:16<mnuhmnuh>ctrl-l
13:17<TLGL>oot@EVE:/# cat /sys/block/dev/mmcblk01/queue/hw_sector_size
13:17<TLGL>cat: /sys/block/dev/mmcblk01/queue/hw_sector_size: No such file or directory
13:17<TLGL>root@EVE:/# cat /sys/block/dev/mmcblk01p1/queue/hw_sector_size
13:17<TLGL>cat: /sys/block/dev/mmcblk01p1/queue/hw_sector_size: No such file or directory
13:17<TLGL>and i made sure i had it mounted again
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13:18<TLGL>going to clear screen and try the command again
13:18*mnuhmnuh i just learned of xrefresh.
13:18<xxzz^>it need to be mounted for it
13:18<xxzz^>or plugged in
13:18<mnuhmnuh>try clear
13:19<xxzz^>anyway I am busy
13:19<TLGL>ok i had it plugged in but unm opui
13:19<TLGL>unmounted as i wqs
13:19<TLGL>as i was told
13:19<xxzz^>the good sector count for you should be 32768
13:19<mnuhmnuh>unmountef while formatting, then mount when done.
13:19<sarnold>hah, I'd never seen xrefresh before
13:20<mnuhmnuh>me neither
13:20<sarnold>it would have been useful to know a few dozen years ago :) I can't recall a time when it would have been handy this century.. hehe
13:21<TLGL>mkfs.vfat -n wii -s 32768 /dev/mmcblk0p1 should work then ?
13:21<mnuhmnuh>there's another cmd for resetting a fouled up terminal but its name escapes atm
13:21<mnuhmnuh>reset?
13:21<sarnold>reset and stty -sane
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13:22<TLGL>32768 just gave me bad # of sectors per cluster
13:22*mnuhmnuh toss the wii
13:22<TLGL>and i think i know why it didn't work because ihad wii in lower case instead of caps for fat
13:23<TLGL>but it still giiving error about the sector size should i just try 32000
13:24<TLGL>yea and 32000 giving hte same error
13:27<xxzz^>use dosfstools
13:30<xxzz^>I am trying to fix suricata in IPS mode but wireless as a copy-interface doesn't match
13:33<TLGL>im not use to git hub as im never sure what file or files i need to download as it is just a dir listing
13:33<mnuhmnuh>what's copy-interface mean? # i admit vast ignorance wrt ips
13:34<xxzz^>it is a soft bridge mode where suricata works like an IPS
13:36<magyar>hi guys, my kodi install in Debian testing is crashing when I start any video from any plug-in, is there an issue with testing ?
13:37<petn-randall>magyar: Probably many. However best place to get help is:
13:37<petn-randall>!debian-next
13:37<dpkg>#debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
13:37<mnuhmnuh>magyar: fyi testing & sid --> #debian-next
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13:43<xxzz^>mtu setting thru /etc/network/interfaces doesn't work
13:43<xxzz^>but it can be set thru ifconfig
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14:03<mnuhmnuh>man interfaces mentions mtu
14:03<mnuhmnuh>should work
14:04<mnuhmnuh>assuming hardware allows.
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14:26<NoNameRo>hello is anyone here to know how to setup in debian my ip 86.124.131.4 to go out in ns1.networkchat.org ? and after to run a few www pages ? www.networkchat.org and others like this ? i try with bind9 and something working wrong
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14:32<petn-randall>NoNameRo: Can you elaborate more on your issue? And also describe your overall goal in detail?
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14:36<mnuhmnuh>NoNameRo: network-manager or /etc/network/interfaces? gnome, kde, openbox, ...?
14:40<NoNameRo>first , be patient with me, because my english is not so good and my knowloge for linux is 0 maybe 0,5% :P
14:40<NoNameRo>So, i buy a name of domain... networkchat.org
14:41<NoNameRo>i put on the register ns.1 with ip 86.124.131.4 and mask ns1.networkchat.org
14:41<NoNameRo>after i install bind9 and apache on my linux box
14:41<NoNameRo>a lot of changes there , and ìm sure nothig good :)
14:43<NoNameRo>private ip in router 192.168.100.1 and linux run under 192.168.100.6
14:43<NoNameRo>i don`t know how to change to go out from inern/private ip to extern/public ip
14:44<NoNameRo>if i try http://86.124.131.4 it works
14:44<NoNameRo>if i type ww.networkchat.org no response , and what i read on i google, no reverse dns o something like this
14:45<NoNameRo>what you nee to paste here for describe my problem ?
14:45<blast007>NoNameRo: neither ns1 nor ns2 hosts on your domain are resolving for me, so that's the first thing to try to fix, I'd imagine
14:45<petn-randall>Neither does the link work.
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14:45<DNS>there is a w missin
14:46<DNS>^^
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14:46<petn-randall>http://86.124.131.4 just timeouts for me.
14:46<mnuhmnuh>here mask is 255.255.255.0
14:46<blast007>ns1.networkchat.org should resolve regardless of the Debian system being online or not
14:47<mnuhmnuh>ip pings success from here.
14:47<supaman>dig is not finding networkchat.org for me
14:47<NoNameRo>if i paste text here i kick out ?
14:47<blast007>it won't, because the glue records aren't resolving
14:47<mnuhmnuh>ip works, dns hosed.
14:48<mnuhmnuh>!paste
14:48<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: http://paste.debian.net or https://0bin.net/ | pics/screenshots: http://file.io/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): http://file.io or http://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
14:48<NoNameRo>ohh good i ask :P
14:48<supaman>NoNameRo: no need to paste anything, you need to fix your DNS
14:48<NoNameRo>a question
14:48<blast007>NoNameRo: you need to work with your registrar to get the ns1.networkchat.org/ns2.networkchat.org glue records working first. if those don't work, then nothing you do in bind9 will do anything.
14:49<NoNameRo>the public ip comes from one ONT, gpon Huawei
14:49<blast007>http://www.webdnstools.com/dnstools/articles/glue_records
14:50<NoNameRo>in my linux box i need to have 2 ethernet cards ?
14:51<NoNameRo>and the DNS i mean ns1. and ns2 is ok if used the same ip ...86.124.131.4 ?
14:52<blast007>you /should/ have two DNS hosts. regardless, the glue records are not working. this is not yet a linux problem. it is a problem at your domain registrar.
14:52<jmcnaught>NoNameRo: can you use your registrar's nameservers? If so it's probably a better idea until you learn more about DNS and bind
14:53<NoNameRo>root@networkchat:~# dig ns1.networkchat.org
14:53<NoNameRo>;; QUESTION SECTION:
14:53<NoNameRo>;ns1.networkchat.org. IN A
14:54<NoNameRo>;; Query time: 5 msec
14:54<NoNameRo>;; SERVER: 192.168.100.1#53(192.168.100.1)
14:54<blast007>You need to fix that problem at your domain registrar. This is *not* a Debian problem.
14:55<NoNameRo>in my domain register i see a problem
14:55<DNS>if your registrar is local then the ip would be ok, if not then its wrong
14:56<NoNameRo>when i try to change ns i get one error , and you have right, say something about glue
14:56<blast007>DNS: that's their DNS server, not a record on their domain
14:56<NoNameRo>EF02090 Too many or to few IPv4 addresses have been entered for the Glue nameserver. E0102 Domain could not be updated.
14:57<blast007>ah, then it's probably complaining about you having only a single IP
14:58<NoNameRo>right now i have 2 public IP set on my dns register
14:58<NoNameRo>ns2.networkchat.org 188.26.105.150
14:58<NoNameRo>ns1.networkchat.org 86.124.131.4
14:59<blast007>did it work with two different IPs?
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14:59<NoNameRo>ip from ns2 is not used for this reason i ask my domain register to put the same IP in bot NS
14:59<NoNameRo>both*
15:00<petn-randall>NoNameRo: Let's maybe step back a bit and look at your overall goal.
15:00<petn-randall>NoNameRo: Why do you want to run your own name server? Given that you don't understand the basic operation of DNS this might not be the best idea.
15:00<petn-randall>*yet
15:01<NoNameRo>And how can i my own name server ? I prefer to use all in my linux box, ns, host serve ftp all in one
15:02<NoNameRo>but how ?
15:02<petn-randall>NoNameRo: For what?
15:02<blast007>ftp? :/
15:02<petn-randall>NoNameRo: You don't need to run your own name server to offer websites or URIs over the internet.
15:02<NoNameRo>same like here, irc serve , a few web pages ...nothing so big
15:03<petn-randall>NoNameRo: If you want to run your own name server, I recommend you start reading up on the DNS RFCs for a week or two, and then read up on the bind9 documentation.
15:03<petn-randall>This isn't something that you can just set up in 5 minutes without any understanding of it.
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15:05<NoNameRo>beleive me, i read 1 month ...about iptables, nat, pat, ptr, dns, bind ... something is how u said, to my registerant domain
15:06<petn-randall>NoNameRo: If you would understand it, you'd also understand that reverse DNS records are not an issue here.
15:07<NoNameRo>exactly , reverse dns not records my public ip ...
15:07<NoNameRo>i know is not easy and what i read, other understand networking after 2 years :P
15:07<blast007>if you only have a single DNS host, and you still insist on running it yourself, you could have a secondary zone somewhere
15:08<petn-randall>Again, PTR records are not needed for your setup, yet you still insist them being wrong.
15:08<NoNameRo>was an example what i read on internet this month :)
15:08<blast007>opendns is seeing the ns1 and ns2 records now, though it's a bit moot since one of them isn't going to be a DNS server
15:09<NoNameRo>because i start from ZERO i read abot a lot of things and i instal debian 50 times :P
15:14<NoNameRo>my ISP provider give me one oportunity to make DDNS , under like .go.ro , can i use namedomain1.go.ro and namedomain2.go.ro then make forwarding or what advice you have ?
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15:15<NoNameRo>for eatch of this 2 domains to use one of my public ip
15:15<mnuhmnuh>NoNameRo: serving dns on their server is part of what you pay for in buying static ip from them.
15:15<blast007>none of this seems related to Debian
15:15<petn-randall>NoNameRo: No. That's not how DNS works.
15:16<NoNameRo>I`n final what i have to do first ?
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15:18<mnuhmnuh>contact your provider, tell them your static ip, have them add it so your associated hostname/url will resole.
15:18<mnuhmnuh>s/resole/resolve
15:19<mnuhmnuh>ping ip works, ns lookup url doesn't.
15:19<NoNameRo>i`m not sure they want :(
15:20<NoNameRo>I call 2 days a go and they say all is fine, no filters or other problems. I`m not sure now if they wish to set a hostname for me for the static ip
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15:23<mnuhmnuh>NoNameRo: you need to learn how dns works. lazy way is just hardcode 8.8.8.8 in /etc/resolv.conf
15:23*mnuhmnuh google's ns, btw.
15:24<NoNameRo>i setup .8.8.8 8.8.4.4 not work , the problem is the reverse dns how sayed petn-randall
15:24<blast007>mnuhmnuh: I don't understand how that has anything to do with any of the above.. NoNameRo is having issues with DNS glue records and DNS servers, *not* with his DNS client
15:27<mnuhmnuh>i know, he wants to have his httpd resolvable from outside; that's what his local dns won't do.
15:29<blast007>his local DNS would
15:30<NoNameRo>mnuhmnuh yes and for that the public ip need to declare a name , a hostname, is 2 ways, my isp provider to setup a reverse dns , old school example : reverse dns : networkchat.org-86.124.131.4 or my registrant domain seller to make a glue for me
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15:37<NoNameRo>i suppose i have a long time to resolve all of this :D
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15:41<amcclure>hello
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15:43<mnuhmnuh>NoNameRo: a phone call or email to your dns provider ought to do it
15:44<NoNameRo>yes i`ll tel about glue. they need to make that for me
15:45<NoNameRo>all of you you help me and i thank you.
15:45<mnuhmnuh>did you tell them what domain name to associate with that ip when you bought it?
15:45<blast007>I think the glue records exist now
15:46<NoNameRo>mnuhmnuh nope :(
15:46<blast007>(it just has not propigated to the entire internet yet)
15:47<NoNameRo>blast , i buyed domain networkchat.org at 28 Jan , and i put the ns in 1 feb, today is 4 ...the maximum for propagation is 72 hours ...
15:48<NoNameRo>i check propagation this days and only a few servers in europe , one in india and some time in malayesia responde to my ns1 and ns2
15:49<mnuhmnuh>ping -c 1 ns1.networkchat.org : ping: ns1.networkchat.org: Name or service not known
15:50<mnuhmnuh>ditto for ns2
15:50*mnuhmnuh is in canuckistan.
15:51<NoNameRo>mnuhmnuh :P
15:53<mnuhmnuh>NoNameRo: the way dns is. used to be icann's top-domain talking to all the others downwards, now all split out into resellers, ...
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15:55<mnuhmnuh>and named updates when it cares to update; what's your hurry? :-)
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15:56<NoNameRo>i`ll wait, but first i have to talk more with my isp provider
15:56<blast007>NoNameRo: but you changed the glue today, right?
15:59<NoNameRo>nope blast007 ...i heard here about glue
15:59<NoNameRo>i don`t know how to change
15:59<NoNameRo>right now i read about what is it and how it works
16:00<NoNameRo>and what i understand , this glue, is automaticaly setup from my provider, and if i wish to make myself i have to learn more :)
16:00<blast007>NoNameRo: it's where you set the nameserver records on your registrar's site
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16:02<NoNameRo>my register made this 31/01/2019 (11:39)
16:04<NoNameRo>mnuhmnuh why when i type the same ping ns1.networkchat.org replay on localhost ?
16:04<NoNameRo>64 bytes from ns1.networkchat.org (127.0.1.1): icmp_req=2 ttl=64 time=0.059 ms
16:04<NoNameRo>is normal ?
16:05<NoNameRo>and more is not like localhost , is not 127.0.0.1 is 127.0.1.1 wtf ?
16:06<grawity>the entire 127.0.0.0/8 range is dedicated for localhost
16:06<grawity>historical reasons
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16:08<mnuhmnuh>is normal. localhost is special address; box ought to be able to talk to itself (127.0...) at the very least. want more? dns. oh yeah, 192.168... and a few others are special in other ways.
16:09<mnuhmnuh>10.1...?
16:09<grawity>10/8, 172.16/12, 192.168/16 are special to the Internet, but not actually special to the OS
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16:11<NoNameRo>my private ip , starts with 192.168.
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16:12<NoNameRo>router 192.168.100.1 . linux box 192.168.100.6 etc etc
16:13<NoNameRo>100.1 is a huawei and i make forwarding for port 53,80, etc etc to 100.6 ..
16:14<NoNameRo>and the provider gives to me one user and pass to make a PPPOE connection
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20:47<Arcade>I had a quick question is there a way to merge multiple bugs together or can I get some documentation on how I might go do this
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20:56<abrotman>https://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control
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20:58<Arcade>thanks abrotman got it
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