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05:18<Natureshadow>Anyone around who knows how to troubleshoot caff? I have been using it for ages, but suddenly it thinks all public keys I want to sign are expired…
05:26<Natureshadow>Oh, never mind… Layer 8 problem
05:30<petn-randall>Natureshadow: system time was off?
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05:43<Natureshadow>Nope. I told it to import keys from my main keyring, and then it simply complains about every expired key in there, even if it is not to be signed.
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06:44<Bodiro>Hi! Just read a few articles, but still undecided: snap or flatpak - which one suites Debian better?
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06:47<petn-randall>Bodiro: I'd go with "Debian packages".
06:48<avu>I've tried snap for some closed sources stuff once. Was confused by how long the program needed to start, switched to a deb and behold, it started in less than a tenth of the time
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07:01<Bodiro>avu: Same experience here, therefore I agree on .deb as first choice. Sometimes there is no, or is not, what I want. So, you choose snap instead of flatpak.
07:04<avu>Bodiro: if I can't get a .deb, I get the .tar.gz and install it in /opt or $HOME/opt
07:04<avu>Bodiro: there's no situation where you need either snaps or flatpacks
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07:05<Bodiro>avu: That's a new perspective to the question to me. Thank you.
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07:26<Synthea>There's a good guide on setting up an sks keyserver who doesn't sync with other PKS and SKS keyservers?
07:26<Synthea>(I want to disable default sync)
07:27<bremner>that sounds like a question better directed to #gnupg on freenode
07:27<bremner>the sks author is often there
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07:55<grawity>hmm I thought it doesn't do default sync?
07:55<grawity>except as far as debian packaging enables it
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08:44<pienseken>Hi all
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08:44<pienseken>I have an dependencys issue and wanted to check if someone can point me out
08:45<pienseken>I want to remove a package with dpkg -P, this normaly always work..
08:46<pienseken>now I have an error: error processing package (--purge) dependency problems prevent removal cbo-client-libl
08:46<bremner>is there some reason you are not using apt?
08:47<pienseken>last time I tried apt-get I was no able to acces the software annymore
08:47<pienseken>It removed things I needed..
08:48<pienseken>so I use dpkg bc someone teached me like this. nothing more nothing less
08:49<bremner>IMHO dpkg is only for emergencies. So I recommend figuring out your issues with apt.
08:49<pienseken>ok..
08:49<grove>apt(-get) always (unless you've given it options not to) tells you what it's going to remove and asks you if it's more than what you asked for
08:49<pienseken>so debian tells me I am not able to remove the file bc cbo-client-libl is using the file to work?
08:50<grove>Probably, but
08:50<grove>!bat
08:50<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
08:52<pienseken>I would like to do this.. :) but Im not a ninja :p so half I understand
08:55<pienseken>so I can do the apt-get and copy everything here but I don't know what apt-cache is :)
08:56<bremner>man apt-cache has some explanation, it should already be installed.
08:56<pienseken>ok ill try :)
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09:05<bremner>I wonder if that trigger should be updated to use "apt"
09:09<grove>The only occurence of a specific command I see is `apt-cache policy`, and AFAIR apt doesn't support "policy"
09:11<bremner>it does
09:11<bremner>but fair point about only one command
09:12<bremner>I guess there is some advantage to working in old stable
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09:13<piper>apt policy, apt search, etc work well
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15:00<mnuhmnuh>when i "abcde" my buena vista social club cd (legal, commercial copy) i get unknown artist yadayada. how to fix? should be able to plug internet archive in there somehow, yes?
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15:04<mnuhmnuh>-a tag?
15:06<mnuhmnuh>"No Musicbrainz match."
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15:12<at0m>mnuhmnuh: havent used abcde, picard usually does it for me. uses same musicbrainz libs probably
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15:16<mnuhmnuh>at0m: ah, abcde + picard. wretched complexity. hmm.
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15:23<at0m>mnuhmnuh: should give you exclusion on musicbrainz and the cd
15:27<mnuhmnuh>at0m: i'm utterly ignorant (know nothing about) musicbrainz, cddb, ...
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15:37<mnuhmnuh>bremner: how do you get abcde to work w musicbrainz? [you recommended it (with caveats) :-]
15:39<bremner>oh! it's been so long, I don't remember anything useful. I have vague memories of it getting metadata (song titles etc...) from somewhere, but I dunno...
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15:42<mnuhmnuh>-z ... Unknown_Artist-Unknown_Album/01.Track_1.ogg through 14. sigh.
15:43<mnuhmnuh>research.
15:50<mnuhmnuh>libcddb-perl?
15:51<mnuhmnuh>libghc-musicbrainz-dev?
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15:53<mnuhmnuh>musiclibrarian looks useful
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16:02<mnuhmnuh>music-librarian won't run. :-(
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16:05<mnuhmnuh>https://wiki.debian.org/Ripping?highlight=%28cddb%29
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16:56<mnuhmnuh>apt-get install lame
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17:01<rant>mnuhmnuh: ?
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17:02<mnuhmnuh>wavpack
17:03<sarnold>"we've secretely switched mnuhmnuh's terminal with an irc client; lets see if mnuhmnuh notices"
17:03<mnuhmnuh>i'm deep in a well of audio apps, installing installing installing ... all abcde driven. wtf?
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17:04<mnuhmnuh>sarnold: i'm here. somewhat.
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17:08<rant>I noticed.. and its kinda annoying
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17:23<mnuhmnuh>if i'm annoying you, apologies. can't see why thagt'd happen, but sorry.
17:27<mnuhmnuh>abcde says "abcde: mac is not in your path." what .deb provides it?
17:29<mnuhmnuh>it asks for pkg after pkg, incessantly. any way to just "engage"?
17:29<rant>wth are you trying to do exactly?
17:30<mnuhmnuh>use abcde to rip a commercial music cd.
17:31<mnuhmnuh>metadata is not happening. unknownartisct/unknowncd
17:34<mnuhmnuh>just want a copy of my legal copy of buena vista social club music cd on my box so smplayer can play it.
17:34<rant>mnuhmnuh: https://wiki.debian.org/Ripping#ripping_audio_CDs_to_MP3s_with_abcde
17:37<mnuhmnuh>rant: been going through that but it's not helping. took me to http://www.andrews-corner.org/abcde.html#ogg which appears to break it.
17:37*rant shrugs
17:38<mnuhmnuh>:-)
17:38<rant>were it me, I'd install abcde cd-discid eyed3 libmusicbrainz-discid-perl libwebservice-musicbrainz-perl then copy that config where it says rip with musicbrainz
17:39<rant>I really dont feel like hunting for my cd drive and an audio cd to prove it :P
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17:57<mnuhmnuh>so http://www.andrews-corner.org/abcde.html#combo ? instead of http://www.andrews-corner.org/abcde.html#ogg
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19:14<scientes>whenever i select somethit gets unselecitted so i cant copy ing
19:14<scientes>it is really horrible and frustrating
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19:14<scientes>I
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19:14<scientes>I'm running latest testing
19:15<scientes>turning off the touchpad didn
19:15<scientes>t solve the problem
19:21<scientes>fixed it
19:21<scientes>it was stupid clipit
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22:11<mnuhmnuh>i'm accustomed to using http://listen.streamon.fm/ckua in ff-esr, and i'd like to make it work in w3m (w3m-el in emacs even :-), but im missing something; any tips?
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