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#debian IRC Logs for 2019-02-06

---Logopened Wed Feb 06 00:00:52 2019
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00:03-!-fdelapena is "Francisco de la Peña" on #virt #qemu #osm-latam #osm-es #oftc #debian-mentors-es #debian-latam #debian-es #debian-devel-es #ct
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00:29<xxzz^>\0
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00:35<mnuhmnuh>buenas noches.
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00:41<xxzz^>sorting opensmtpd
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02:51<harp00n>Libreoffice Fatal exception: Signal 11. Any way to resolve? I build a custom ISO. I'm currently in live mode. Other applications (vlc, firefox, etc.) are working fine but libreoffice shuts down after shown logo for a couple of secs.
02:51<harp00n>Using buster btw
02:54<jm_>help for testing is in #debian-next, also signal 11 is SIGSEGV, which is usually an application bug, but can be other things - start by checking BTS
02:56<harp00n>Thanks. Going to #debian-next.
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09:47<EmleyMoor>I have some scripts that prevent clashing runs using flock to lock a particular file. Is there any way I could have scripts that lock the same file and terminate, and also that take an action and release the lock?
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12:00<oo_miguel>how can I control which monitor hosts the terminal window, when starting in non-x mode?
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13:05<Talkless>How can I reinstall package and force it to recreate deleted conf file?
13:06<Talkless>I could purge and install, but maybe it's possible with apt --reinstall ?
13:06<bremner>I'd guess you need to purge
13:06<bremner>what have you got to lose at this point?
13:06<Talkless>I was using my own modified file, so /etc/foo/bar was a symlinc.. deleted that symlink and reinstallin package does not revert original conf
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13:06<Talkless>I don't want to purge AppArmor :)
13:07<Talkless>probably gonna unload profiles, gonna restart applications to become confined..? Just would be more conveniet to have reinstall-with-new-confs
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13:08<Talkless>sudo apt install --reinstall apparmor -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confask,confnew,confmiss"
13:08<Talkless>this worked!
13:09<Talkless>probably was missing "confmiss" ?
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13:21<petn-randall>!confmiss
13:21<dpkg>You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>.
13:21<petn-randall>Talkless: ^^^
13:22<Talkless>thanks petn-randall
13:22<Talkless>apt could have some more human friendly option for these though, always gonna duckduck about these -o...
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13:55<sarnold>Talkless: btw how'd you get in the position of needing deleted configuration files recreated?
13:56<Talkless>sarnold: I symlink abstraction/profile from my apparmor clone
13:56<Talkless>to test on my machine
13:56<Talkless>with time, these symlincs.. accumulate, and I like to get back to "clean" Debian apparmor
13:57<Talkless>I have multiple separate checkouts like talkless_apparmor_fix-foo.git and talkless_apparmor-profiles-update-thunderbird.git etc...
13:57<Talkless>and so /etc/apparmor.d/{,abstractions} contains buch of symlincs directly to these branches for testing.
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14:03<sarnold>Talkless: aha! cool, thanks
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15:15<cacatoes>hi, according to https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.installation-steps.html#sidebar.encrypted-swap-partition, debian installer warns when swap partition is unencrypted while others are. However it seems auto partitionning doesn't encrtypt swap and doesn't warn me about it, is this expected?
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15:25<ach>swap don't store any data if the computer powers of their is no data it anymore so you don't need to encrypt
15:26<ach>*on it
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15:27<blast007>cacatoes: ignore what ach says
15:28<cacatoes>there might still be a risk with suspend to disk and alike
15:28<petn-randall>cacatoes: Can you show a screenshot of the layout? Last time I used the encrypted partition layout, everything was on LUKS except for /boot.
15:29<petn-randall>ach: The kernel just writes memory pages on there, or the complete memory when it suspends. So not true what you said.
15:30<cacatoes>just finished the installation, I answered to it: "home and root on same partition", and I saw 2 LVM volume groups : root and a little one which is the swap, however I only saw one encrypted volume
15:30<petn-randall>cacatoes: you should only have *one* volume group, and several LVs.
15:31<ach>?
15:32<blast007>ach: do you know what swap is?
15:32<cacatoes>okay, I just checked, and I have ONE physical volume, swap is ine
15:32<cacatoes>in*. Looks good ... false alarm if so, sorry
15:33<petn-randall>cacatoes: You should have one PV, one VG, and one LV for each filesystem + swap.
15:33<ach>?
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15:35*mnuhmnuh generally speaking, ignore ach.
15:35<cacatoes>yes, LUKS applies to sda5, which has the whole thing (except boot apart, which is fine)
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15:36<ach>is not bad if you have if you don't
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22:11<xxzz^>hi, I am getting $DISPLAY is not connected error in KDE5
22:11<xxzz^>any ideas?
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23:10<xxzz^>fixed it
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23:24<ooo277>I was wondering whether there was anywhere to download debian packaes which aren't current in either stable, testing or sid. In particularly I need one of mpv 0.27. It doesn't seem to be available, but I figured I'd ask anyway before I bother with sorting out dependencies and compiling it myself.
23:33<dondelelcaro>ooo277: snapshot.debian.org has what you're looking for
23:35<ooo277>Thank you, that's a great help.
23:36<znoteer>I'm running maildrop from getmail. If I don't have maildrop logging turned on, things mostly work. If I turn on logging, maildrop fails with the error "msg m/n (xxyyz bytes), delivery error (command maildrop <some incrementing whole number> error (75, /usr/bin/maildrop: Unable to create log file.))" I want logging turned to have a record of each mail handled, and to stop maildrop from
23:36<znoteer>printing messages to stout, which is what I believe is preventing getmail from deleting messages on the server. For the purposes of logging, I created a directory in $HOME that was mode 700. I noticed that maildrop has the s bit set for the group "mail", so I thought maybe it was running as group "mail" and it was a permissions problem. So I "chown :mail $HOME/<maildrop log dir>" and chmod'd
23:36<znoteer>the directory to 770. Same error, so I tried "touch logfile" and "chmod 770 logfile" to see if maildrop would append to it. I'm getting the same error. Searching the web didn't make me any happier; there were no hits for this error message. Can anyone think of what else I need to do so that maildrop can create the logfile?
23:37*znoteer marvels at the length of his own post, and hopes people will read it anyway...sigh
23:37<znoteer>*I want logging turned *on**
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