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#debian IRC Logs for 2019-02-15

---Logopened Fri Feb 15 00:00:01 2019
---Daychanged Fri Feb 15 2019
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06:19<david89>Hello. Is there any documentation regarding if/when sysvinit support will be dropped?
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06:44<xxzz^>can someone show me recursive structure for /boot/efi?
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09:39<sqrt{not}>xxzz^: https://paste.debian.net/1068024 is what I see here
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10:19<jimpop>sqrt{not}: why is there an fw dir in debian/ and the EFI root dir? And what is the fwupdate-GWa40e.cap file?
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10:26<grawity>placed there by fwupd, presumably
10:27<grawity>with some manufacturers (e.g. Dell) you no longer need a Windows-specific or MSDOS-specific tool to reflash the system firmware, since they also have either an UEFI-specific version or just literally built into the current UEFI itself
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10:56<jimpop>n0ice
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11:03<sqrt{not}>Yes, i see that fwupdate-GWa40e.cap has the same date as the BIOS updates under EFI/dell/bios/recovery -- these are signed BIOS blobs I downloaded directly from Dell, and the hardware's boot menu allows me to install new versions
11:05<sqrt{not}>This box had never had any DOS or windows installed, and the Ubuntu remnants still there in /boot were put there by Dell when I bought the thing, but I never used them
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18:03<finn>I have a debian stretch machine with this /etc/network/interfaces: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/6197a8a5/ it all seems to be working normally (eth0 and eth1 get their static IPs correctly, eth2 DHCPs) but in the syslog i noticed there's a dhclient that keeps trying to get an IP for eth0
18:05<finn>i can kill the dhclient for eth0 and it seems to go away, but it comes back when i reboot
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18:26<localhorst>My motd appears twice on login via ssh but in /etc/motd it has only one appearance. Where does that come from?
18:28<localhorst>I have a /run/motd.dynamic but that only contains the kernel line not the rest of the text.
18:28<localhorst>This is my motd https://paste.debian.net/plainh/266915b3
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18:31<localhorst>Nevermind. pam and ssh each printed a motd. I disabled the motd in sshd_config.
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20:11<ais-admin>ok this one is really wierd - I create a new user name isaac and I put him in two groups - isaac and users - I issue command 'groups isaac' and I get isaac : isaac tad users - (tad is another user on the system) I make a dir called Isaac and issue chown isaac:admins Isaac - an ls shows the dir as ownership tad:admins - what the heck is going on?
20:14<sarnold>ls -ln may help
20:14<sarnold>I suspect you have multiple text names for a single group id number
20:14<sarnold>check /etc/groups and /etc/passwd to see what group numbers are being used
20:15<ais-admin>doh! duplicated user id's... my bad - thanks for the hint
20:15<sarnold>thanks for the good feedback :) I hadn't considered that option. heh.
20:16<ais-admin>the -ln showed my mistake in living color - will remember that one - thanks
20:16<sarnold>I once had a 'sarnold' account in local database with one number, 'sarnold' account in ldap with a different number.. nothing made sense until I used ls -ln :)
20:18<ais-admin>thanks for that gem - never would have thought I duped uid's
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