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#debian IRC Logs for 2019-03-05

---Logopened Tue Mar 05 00:00:30 2019
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01:19<twb>does apt have why yet?
01:19<twb>"E: Invalid operation why" lame
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11:00<Blendie>anyoen with a thinkpad x250 here?
11:00<Blendie>i experience lags when playing content in youtube, like short play breaks now and then
11:00<Blendie>it does not happen on chronme
11:01<Blendie>i've tried many about:config and about:preferences settings, nothing seem to help
11:01<Blendie>whether it's debian 9 or sid
11:02<Blendie>i really would prefer using chromium as my default browser
11:05<petn-randall>Blendie: I've had that ever since the CPU microcode updates to mitigate meltdown/spectre came out.
11:06<Blendie>any solutions?
11:07<petn-randall>Blendie: You could roll back any microcode updates to see if it persists.
11:07<Blendie>that's not a solution at all but a workaround
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11:07<Blendie>i'd rather use chromium instead
11:09<petn-randall>That would at least verify if that's the issue or not.
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11:11<Blendie>also i doubt i can roll the microcode back on x250
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12:16<rwp>Blendie, Are you familiar with snapshot.debian.org ? All of the old packages are available there. That is the easy way to roll back to test a previous version of something like microcode.
12:16<rwp>The other thing I would check is I would see if it is doing thermal throttling in the system log.
12:17<rwp>I would install 'mcelog' and see if machine check exceptions are occurring. I would check memory (using htop's bar graph is my go-to tool) to make sure it has enough ram.
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12:26<sarnold>depending upon release, mcelog may have been replaced by rasdaemon
12:33<rwp>Has it? Good info. It is still in Stretch though.
12:33<rwp>,v mcelog
12:33<judd>Package: mcelog on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.0~pre3-72-gcbd4da4-1; jessie: 104-1; jessie-backports: 147+dfsg-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 147+dfsg-1
12:33<rwp>Looks like that is the last release with it.
12:34<rwp>,v rasdaemon
12:34<judd>Package: rasdaemon on amd64 -- stretch: 0.5.8-1+b1; buster: 0.6.0-1.2; sid: 0.6.0-1.2
12:35<rwp>I guess we need to convert from mcelog to rasdaemon. Thanks for the heads up about that.
12:42<Blendie>rwp: as i said, it does not happen in chromium
12:42<Blendie>so it's not thermal case for sure
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12:47<rwp>I wouldn't be so sure. They could easily be using different rendering engines.
12:48<rwp>I have an x220 and getting the heat out is my biggest slowdowns. The x220 will thermal throttle when active.
12:48<rwp>Anyway... Good luck!
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13:30<jhutchins_wk>Blendie: What applicationd does it happen in?
13:30<Blendie>firefox
13:30<jhutchins_wk>Blendie: I think chrome/chromium is much lighter than FF.
13:31<Blendie>that's not the point, i got i5-5500u and 8gb of ram
13:31<Blendie>i got plenty of resources, it's either fault of the rendering engine or system realted module
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15:30<Arcade>I have a build question: I am not sure if I can ask it here: does salsa.debian.org allow repository cloning or is it only limited to a token method?
15:31<Arcade>Adding a clone I get: 2:NoMethodError: undefined method `id' for nil:NilClass.
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15:39<bremner>Arcade: you can ask about salsa in #alioth.
15:39<bremner>fwiw, I don't know what you mean. Salsa supports normal git clones of course, but I guess you mean something else
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15:42<Arcade>I am having issues with the clone function: under Mirrored
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17:39<chachasmooth>will buster ship the 5.0.0 Kernel?
17:41<drakonis>backports maybe?
17:41<drakonis>its going to ship 4.19
17:41<drakonis>the folks at #debian-next may know best
17:41<chachasmooth>thanks drakonis
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23:12-!-vicamo is "You-Sheng Yang" on #debian-kde #debian-dkms #debian-desktop #debian-bluetooth #debian-apt #debian
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