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#debian IRC Logs for 2019-03-16

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12:31<CDuv>Hello, I am having problem with a super micro motherboard on which I want to enable "Watchdog" feature (so that the motherboard physically resets the server if Debian has crashed)
12:33<CDuv>My Google-fu leads to /dev/watchdog, Intel module (iTCO_wdt). But also to IPMI modules (ipmi_si, ipmi_devintf, ipmi_watchdog)
12:34<CDuv>Is really IPMI required? It looks like DELL's iDRAC and HP's iLO...
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12:47<supaman>CDuv: according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_Platform_Management_Interface then supermicro uses IPMI
12:52<CDuv>I thought such hardware watchdog would directly use internal/CPU interrupt or other thing.
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13:16<mnuhmnuh>aptitude search ipmi is interesting.
13:17<supaman>"isn't it irconic"
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13:20<mnuhmnuh>freeipmi, freeipmi-tools, ipmitool, ipmiutil, openipmi, ...
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13:21<supaman>apt search ipmi gives the bottom search as python-ironic* (hence the line)
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13:37<CDuv>@mnuhmnuh, an also: freeipmi-bmc-watchdog... Argh... To many stuff
13:43<CDuv>Well, for now it seems to work, but I had to blacklist "iTCO_wdt" module, and need to run `ipmitool mc watchdog reset` regularly to reset the IPMI countdown (got via `ipmitool mc watchdog get`). I guess that's what the the watchdog service is for...
13:44<mnuhmnuh>CDuv: an embarassment of riches. i noticed the other day the thing i was playing with (surfraw) at the time was originally written by julian assange. smoley hokes. didn't see that coming.
13:45<mnuhmnuh>CDuv: sounds like a job for cron.
13:45<CDuv>I have found this documentation for Super Micro and CentOS7: http://nnkllinux.blogspot.com/2017/08/hardware-watchdog-on-supermicro.html Somewhere it configures IPMI via "/etc/sysconfig/ipmi" file which I don't know the Debian-equivalent...
13:46<mnuhmnuh>CDuv: /etc/sysctl.conf?
13:48<mnuhmnuh>just guessing.
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14:01<livetux>Hello!
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14:15<livetux>Hello kritzefitz!
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14:16<kritzefitz>livetux, hi!
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14:31<livetux>How are you this day kritzefitz?
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17:02<CDuv>@mnuhmnuh, Nop, not "/etc/sysctl.conf". It looks like this CentOS tutorial installed some IPMI service. Which didn't happened on Debian with the "openimpi" Debian package. In the end, I uninstalled "openipmi" package and installed "freeipmi-common freeipmi-tools freeipmi-bmc-watchdog"
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17:05<CDuv>Anyone knows what are the signification/goal of Watchdog timer use "BIOS/POST (0x42)" and "SMS/OS (0x44)"?
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17:09<Redhawk2021>deZillium, I'm still having some issues with my networking on my VM if your here.
17:10<Redhawk2021>Thought I was in the clear but apparently not.
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17:24<blast007>Redhawk2021: what issue(s) are you having?
17:25<Redhawk2021>DNS
17:25<Redhawk2021>I edited my interfaces config to set a static IP
17:26<Redhawk2021>everything was working great yesterday, and now today I can't get it to resolve any DNS at all.
17:27<blast007>does your /etc/resolv.conf nameserver lines in it?
17:27<blast007>have nameserver*
17:27<Redhawk2021>empty.
17:28<blast007>that'd do it :)
17:28<Redhawk2021>How do I fix it?
17:29<Redhawk2021>I'm comparing the interface config with my other and I don't see anything different other then the static ip set
17:29<blast007>assuming you don't have the resolv-conf package installed, just one or more 'nameserver 192.168.1.1' lines in there (replacing that IP with whatever your DNS resolvers should be)
17:29<blast007>in the resolv.conf file
17:30<blast007>(sorry, I guess the package name is resolvconf, not resolv-conf)
17:30<Redhawk2021>that file gets overridden on reboot though, so that would be erased on reboot
17:30<Redhawk2021>overwritten*
17:30<blast007>does it say that in the file?
17:31<Redhawk2021>I had this issue a few days ago and thats what other sources said.
17:31<blast007>if you don't have the resolvconf package installed and are not using network manager, I don't think it will
17:32<blast007>can't say for sure though. at home my servers just get reserved IPs from my DHCP server, and my VPS may get some configuration through the host's cloud configurator thingy.
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17:33<Redhawk2021>Hmm, thats interesting. My other VM does have the resolv manager installed.
17:33<Redhawk2021>going to do a little testing to see
17:34<blast007>with resolvconf installed, you can use various dns-* interface options in your /etc/network/interfaces file and it will populate the /etc/resolv.conf file when the interface comes up
17:34<Redhawk2021>Yeah, the resolv file gets overwritten. Just rebooted and its gone again. Gonna try installing the resolvconf to see if that helps.
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17:37<Redhawk2021>got it. that resolvconf was needed to configure the resolv.conf the way I'm using my interfaces.
17:46<sqrt{not}>Geez, in the olde days {tm} you could just write a configuration file and it would stay; and you could just fly an airplane and it would not overrule the pilot...
17:46<Redhawk2021>lol, nice
17:48<DNS>Redhawk2021: ^^
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18:49<keycollector>Teach me something new
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19:22<mnuhmnuh>keycollector: use dhcp, an you'll not need to futz w resolv.conf or resolvconf; dhcp will get all that from your providerand your router will filter that into your lan.
19:22*mnuhmnuh here endeth the lesson.
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19:24<mnuhmnuh>keycollector: 22/7 or 355/113?
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19:33<rant>sqrt{not}: out of curiousity what keyboard layout do you use?
19:39<keycollector>mnuhmnuh: 335/113, i had to google what these were ha. In reference to Pi?
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19:52<sqrt{not}>rant: en(US), an old 104-key generic. Does it come through funny ?
19:53<keycollector>Is Dialog the best "GUI" for bash scripts?
19:54<rant>sqrt{not}: just found it curious you not only used {} in your nick but also in (tm).. figured either a keyboard layout or your programming habits may explain it :D
19:54<rant>for me, its harder to type {} that ().. gotta cramp my hand up to hit the {} keys
19:54<mnuhmnuh>gui, for bash scripts. sheesh. i'd have said xterm or rxvt.
19:55<sqrt{not}>ahhh, when I was making the nick, some script thing got confused with regular (). On this keyboard, both pairs require shift key thoug.
19:55<rant>keycollector: there is no such thing as "best" you have to decide what you wanna use.. there is zenity which is easy but limited, yad which last I checked wasnt in debian but is far more featureful..
19:56<mnuhmnuh>keycollector: did you mean gui editor? gvim or emacs.
19:58<keycollector>No, Rant was on point. I was comparing it to zenity, but looks like that is a Gnome specific package, which may affect portability.
20:00<keycollector>but i did just install vim-gui-common, did not know of its exsistant.
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20:07<mnuhmnuh>keycollector: no, you can run gnome apps in anything as long as all its libs are there available. kde in gnome, cinnamon in kde, ...
20:09<mnuhmnuh>stellarium in openbox :-)
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20:14<keycollector>We have a bunch of closed networks without proper mirros set up. Ill need to set these up first since zenity is not installed by default on KDE.
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20:22<keycollector>mnuhmnuh: What desktop environment do you use?
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20:25<mnuhmnuh>keycollector: wdm to login, openbox wm, emacs, xterm, weechat in uxterm, gkrellm, xconsole, firefox-esr, lots of w3m and other command line stuff.
20:30<keycollector>mnuhmnuh: First time i heard of openbox was today. So you dont have a desktop environment? you launch everything via openbox? Reding about it now in debian wiki
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20:34<mnuhmnuh>i have a ~/.xsession which runs ~/.Xclients (which starts up all my apps). last line in ~/.xsession is "exec /usr/bin/openbox-session". all config is in ~/.config/openbox/
20:36<mnuhmnuh>sadly, menuing-foo sucks on linux so system clickable menus are all wrong, but you can learn to not need them.
20:39<mnuhmnuh>or fix them if you're so inclined. :-)
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20:41<keycollector>How come you dont use a full blown desktop environment like kde?
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20:54<mnuhmnuh>keycollector: i'd wonder why anyone would use kde which exerts a lot of control over the way you do things. ditto gnome, e17.
20:55<mnuhmnuh>it offers power, but at a price. they all do.
20:58<mnuhmnuh>oh, and they bring their own bugs too. read what jamie zawinsky writes in man xscreensaver about gnome screensaver (buggy piece of $#@!, the latter).
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23:15<keycollector>mnuhmnuh: Take me under your wing and teach me your ways. I want to learn the deeps of this OS.
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23:40<mnuhmnuh>apt install debian-handbook debian-reference
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