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#debian IRC Logs for 2019-04-06

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07:35<bipul>Hi, I am looking for a help, anyone know? what is failing here https://paste.debian.net/plain/1076421
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07:44<petn-randall>bipul: You might want to explain what you're doing, otherwise that error message is not useful.
07:44<petn-randall>!context
07:44<dpkg>Try to give enough context! For example, let us know which command/program you are running, what you expected, and what you got instead. Try to be as specific as possible. If your command produced output, share the complete command (with all parameters!) and its output on https://paste.debian.net.
07:47<bipul>petn-randall, I am just trying to build virtualbox from source inside chroot jail
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07:48<bipul>petn-randall, This log is new too me, if you could tell me what exactly it required to download or make changes inside .kmk file
07:48<bipul>I woud love to do.
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08:29<rant>bipul: building virtualbox from source is probably a question for the virtualbox channel.. here we'd tell you to install it from backports
08:30<holsgrj2>Is there a place to test open source software for people in Debian project? I want to contribute but I'm not good at software design and never contributed to anything before
08:30<rant>holsgrj2: a place? like your house.. your computer..
08:31<rant>holsgrj2: if you have a spare machine you can run debian testing or unstable and file bug reports
08:31<rant>holsgrj2: https://www.debian.org/intro/help
08:31<rant>holsgrj2: you can also frequent channels like this and offer support among other things
08:32<holsgrj2>rant: ah yeah I just upgraded to testing today but it went totally smooth have to find some programs to run I suppose
08:32<holsgrj2>rant: maybe I'll install unstable on another PC and have some fun with that, thanks for the suggestions =)
08:32<rant>holsgrj2: what did you put in your sources.list? testing or buster?
08:33<holsgrj2>rant: Ah I put buster, my mistake I'm quite new
08:33<rant>holsgrj2: yes wel buster will be stable in the near future.. if you want to stick with testing, you need to specify testing
08:34<rant>holsgrj2: testing isn't supported in this channel though.. really if you're new you're better off running stable and learning the system and helping in other ways
08:35<petn-randall>I'd stick with buster for now, preparing good bug reports is also a way to contribute.
08:35<petn-randall>Also triaging bug fixes presented in bug reports is a good way.
08:35<rant>this requires a certain skill and knowledge level
08:36<petn-randall>Sure, but you gotta start somewhere.
08:37<holsgrj2>Ah yeah I wouldn't have greatest knowledge in linux / Debian but I thoguht it'd be a good way to learn as I currently work in a service desk so I think I'm decent at writing tickets atleast lol =)
08:37*rant started with Potato and hanging out in #debian
08:37<rant>really I my opinion our wiki and documentation is one of our worst areas right now
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08:38<rant>I was gonna look into ways I could help with that cause for me I get overwhelmed by the existing horribly dated crap and feel it'd be easier to start over with a new wiki of my own
08:38<holsgrj2>Ah I was thinking I could contribute to documentation too, I was reading through the debian docs and noticed some spelling mistakes so that might be a start
08:39<rant>holsgrj2: yes well that, and I've seen manpages where hundreds of lines were duplicated
08:39<bremner>bipul: have you actually tried getting help from virtualbox upstream as several people have suggested now?
08:39<rant>but the real issue is how outdated most the information is
08:40<bremner>bipul: iirc they have a channel on freenode, as well as active web forums
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08:42<rant>holsgrj2: personally I think the best first steps are getting acquainted.. preferably with stable or since buster is soon to release, buster is fine. and with the community, IRC, Mailing Lists, Wiki, Forums, Website, BTS, etc
08:42<rant>holsgrj2: debian has a TON of resources, getting to know each of them and what they contain and how they work would help you see where you could help
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08:43<rant>holsgrj2: many of our websites are outdated as well, like we used to have this server alioth that was taken down and now we have salsa, and many things on packages.debian.org still point to alioth for example which is now dead links
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08:46<holsgrj2>rant: Ah I see, yeah I'm doing my best to learn bought Debian administrators handbook in paperback too to learn at work! I've joined debian-announce and debian-devel-announce mailing lists but I should look for others
08:47<petn-randall>holsgrj2: That's a good ressource, I learned a lot through that book, as well (even though it was an earlier edition).
08:48<holsgrj2>rant: I should check out BTS too yeah thanks for the tip!
08:48<rant>holsgrj2: yes you may if you're going that route want to also subscribe to the security type mailing lists to be up to speed on critical vulnerabilities
08:48<holsgrj2>rant: awesome I'll subscribe to that too =)
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08:59<rant>holsgrj2: as far a websites go there are a long list of those you may want to familiarize with just to give a general overview of some of the important ones: http://paste.debian.net/1076429/
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14:48<mnuhmnuh>is aptosid still a thing? it appears dormant, and i can't even get to download mirrors.
14:55<piper>mnuhmnuh: all developers except kano went to siduction
14:56<piper>and a few others
14:56<piper>besides kano
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15:03<piper>mnuhmnuh: knoppix, kanotix, sidux, aptosid, siduction, in that order pretty much has the same people in it, some left, some new
15:04<mnuhmnuh>piper: guess i should try euro mirrors
15:05<piper>let me see if i have some of my builds of it left
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15:11<piper>mnuhmnuh: the only thing i have left on my compters are sidux builds - sidux-snapshot-dvd-piper-i386-200703160311.iso let me check physical cd/dvds, i don't have much anymore this is ot anyway
15:12<mnuhmnuh>piper: and not a big thing; don't go to any trouble. i was just curious about its "rolling" claim. :-)
15:13<mnuhmnuh>seems what all the kids are clamouring for lately.
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15:16<piper>mnuhmnuh: well, before debian was around, slack was nice too ;)
15:17<piper>mnuhmnuh: i don't think the kids would have liked it :)
15:17<mnuhmnuh>still is! :-) austrian mirror works as it should, btw
15:17<piper>mnuhmnuh: yes, it is :) just example how things changed, easier
15:19<mnuhmnuh>2013-01-hesperides
15:28<piper>mnuhmnuh: good luck upgrading that ;)
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16:52<bipul>bremner, Thank you for your reply. Yes i have asked there, but a very little chance to get the answer.
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16:53<pitamila>help! when booting my disk, debian start, but after kernel boot it tells lvmetad cannot connect cant find vg_blah
16:53<pitamila>however booting with usb rescue disk I can mount the lv!?
16:53<bipul>Since, it's not that much active. And neither there wiki or documentations are updated.
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16:56<bipul>I am looking to perform a VirtualBox unattended installation(BoxManage unattended install $VM --iso ...). But i am confused here, where to fix debian_preseed.cfg file? at inside .iso image through this https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed/EditIso or at /usr/share/virtualbox/UnattendedTemplates/debian_preseed.cfg
16:57<zleap>not sure if this helps but Just watched an auto install on the edx linux course, and virtual box seems to ask for user info before the install starts then seems to pass that to the os you're installing
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16:58<zleap>ok they were using ubuntu inthe video, but I think virtualbox maybe able to do that
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17:03<bipul>zleap, ? Do you know before we execute 'VBoxManage unattended install $VM --iso=/home/bipul/debian-9.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso --user=$VM --full-user-name=$VM1 --password=passwd --install-additions --time-zone=UTC --hostname=$VM.example.com --start-vm=gui' Do i have to configure virtualbox/UnattendedTemplates/debian_preseed.cfg ? or straight .iso image?
17:03<zleap>https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed
17:04<zleap>just found this
17:04<zleap>i have never used a pre-seed file, however as you mention it, it is something that could be useful for me too
17:04<bipul>zleap, Yes, even i can found the same, but it has long story.
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17:06<zleap>back
17:07<pitamila>is it possible when using debian rescue mode to put lvm right?
17:08<pitamila>I can read my lv, is it related to lvmetad?
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17:09<bipul>welcome back.
17:10<zleap>ty
17:12<zleap>maybe the url method would be simplier if tou can point the boot vm at the host computer (the one running the vm software i think, if I udnerstand host correctly)
17:16<bipul>But i am wondering what is the use of /usr/share/virtualbox/UnattendedTemplates/debian_preseed.cfg ??
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17:39<pitamila>I don't understand why the installer in rescue mode can see pvs, vgs, lvs but I can't boot on it...
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