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05:04<ullbeking>does anybody here have experience installing wordpress on debian and running it with apache2?
05:06<petn-randall>ullbeking: It's better if you ask your real question.
05:08<ullbeking>petn-randall: i installed wordpress and set it up according to https://wiki.debian.org/WordPress
05:08<ullbeking>i cannot update any plugins or themes
05:08<ullbeking>because i get a lot of file permissions errors
05:08<ullbeking>i have changed ownderships under /var/lib/wordpress, etc, to www-data, but it still happens
05:09<ullbeking>i have read a lot of docs, and asked in #wordpress
05:09<ullbeking>no luck yet
05:11<petn-randall>ullbeking: Can you show us those errors?
05:11<ullbeking>ok
05:11<ullbeking>i already have a paste of my file perms if that's helpful?
05:12<ullbeking>brb
05:13<ullbeking>petn-randall: here is a paste to the errors when i try to update a theme: https://paste.debian.net/plain/1077747
05:14<ullbeking>i try to do the update using the management gui
05:18<petn-randall>Hmm, that error is unfortunate, it doesn't say where it's trying to write.
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05:19<ullbeking>i can see in apache error.log
05:20<ullbeking>actually no, there was an error about copying files in error.log about an hour ago, but not anymore
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05:21<ullbeking>i tried changing the ownerships of all files under /var/lib/wordpress to www-data:www-data but the errors are still the same
05:22<petn-randall>ullbeking: /usr/share/doc/wordpress/README.Debian.gz should usually have all the info necessary to get something running.
05:22<ullbeking>ok, thx
05:22<ullbeking>i'll look there
05:22<ullbeking>brb
05:23<petn-randall>ullbeking: It's there under "#### Managing plugins, themes and uploaded files"
05:24<ullbeking>here we go...
05:24<ullbeking>https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/PmFuOCiK/
05:25<ullbeking>i will do a --purge uninstall/remove and reinstall, and rewrite my configs
05:25<ullbeking>bbl
05:25<ullbeking>thank you for your help petn-randall !
05:25<petn-randall>You're welcome!
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07:11<ullbeking>petn-randall: i fixed it according to those instructions
07:11<ullbeking>thanks again!
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07:41<petn-randall>ullbeking: Nice, glad it worked out! :)
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10:34<lsjet>I confirmed I was excluding the correct amount of RAM containing the bad byte. The bitmask was fine, but I misinterpreted the total amount of memory available as reported by top,free, and /proc/meminfo
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10:41<lsjet>I would like to write up all I found, but not sure the best place to put it. I'm also thinking we need a better memory testing solution. The current situation not good at all.
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10:59<petn-randall>Care to explain what's wrong with the current situation?
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11:20<lsjet>petn-randall, There are four options four testing memory that I cam across. I will list them:
11:20<lsjet> 1) memtester - a good tool, but limited in that it runs under linux, meaning it can't access all RAM, and tends to get killed by the OOM if you get too ambitious.
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11:22<lsjet>2) memtest86+ - has access to all memory, but hasn't been updated in years. This is especially bad as it runs without an OS, so it must handle low level hardware details. Won't run on my machine. Found other instances of this on the net.
11:22<lsjet>3) memtest86 (open source version) Not updated in years. Same problems as memtest86+
11:23<lsjet>4) Closed source commercial memtest86 - Worked for me, but should be obvious why this is less than ideal.
11:24<lsjet>Also, memtester makes it difficult (impossible?) to figure out the true memory offsets of bad ram for use in excluding said areas.
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11:25<lsjet>although as a whole, I found memtester tests more reliably detected problems than memtest86
11:25<marcony>hello, maybe somebody knows how to solve the ACPI Warning : SystemIO conflict with OpRegion error?
11:26<petn-randall>lsjet: 2+3 "should" always work, unless you have exotic HW.
11:26<petn-randall>marcony: Why do you want to fix it?
11:27<marcony>I getting this error on boot, i wondering how to fix it, or at least to hide it.because i understand what is nothing important
11:27<duclicsic>just look away when it comes up
11:28<lsjet>petn-randall, clearly they do not. Besides, hardware is evolving rapidly and a program that must act as its own OS clearly has more work to do to keep up with chipset/cpu changes and such. A dead project that hasn't changed in years is far from ideal.
11:29<marcony>no ways how to fix or hide that error?
11:29<petn-randall>marcony: You could maybe update the BIOS to be more compliant. Other than that you can just look away.
11:30<marcony>unfortun my BIOS is latest loptop 2016 no moew updates available
11:30<petn-randall>lsjet: memtest86 had it's last update earlier this year.
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11:30<lsjet>You mean the closed source version?
11:31<marcony>I cheked in official site 2013 was latest update of my BIOS
11:31<petn-randall>marcony: Then you know the only option.
11:31<petn-randall>lsjet: v8.1 isn't FOSS? I didn't check.
11:32<lsjet>It hasn't been FOSS for years
11:32<petn-randall>Eh, I see.
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11:39<lsjet>The version in debian is ancient. memtest86+ was a fork created when memtest86 went closed source, but it hasn't been updated in years either.
11:42<lsjet>I was thinking a better solution might be a cut-down linux kernel with overcommit disabled and maybe other tweaks to prevent the OOM from kicking in, along with a dedicated tool like memtester or something new launched directly in place of init.
11:43<lsjet>That would remove the dependency on bare metal hardware assembly and allow it to work on any platform supported by linux like arm boards.
11:46<lsjet>An alternative at least for newer x86/x64 might be to write a uefi memory tester, but my understanding of uefi is limited to single CPU processes. One thing I noticed was my memory error was much easier to detect when running cpu's in parallel than singly. So that would again suggest the linux kernel method might be a better approach.
11:47<petn-randall>Feel free to provide patches.
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23:19<jcb2016>trying to load drivers on a hp laptop with no wifi. the driver is bcm43142 i need to load it to a usb driver put it on laptop in question and then install the drivers. any ideas?
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23:26<dpkg>Add module to kernel: "modprobe foo"; Remove module from kernel: "modprobe -r foo"; Define module options: "man modprobe.conf", "echo options foo bar=baz qux=quux >> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf". See also: "man modprobe", "man modprobe.conf", /etc/modprobe.d/* , <blacklist>.
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23:36<jcb2016>ach, ive modproved bcma and still nothing. i don't know what else to modprobe
23:37<jcb2016>i don't have access to ethernet
23:37<mendelmunkis>try adding it to the boot modprobe list
23:37<jcb2016>but when i modprobe something shouldn't it load and stuff work?
23:38<mendelmunkis>not if the kernel dosnt know about the hardware.
23:39<mendelmunkis>If you load during boot the kernel should detect it. (i think)
23:39<jcb2016>how do i do this??
23:41<mendelmunkis>man modprobe.d . Basically a file containing the modprobe command
23:42<jcb2016>mendelmunkis, what im saying is that if you modprobe somethign shouldn't it temporarly work shouldn't the kernel see it and it work?
23:43<mendelmunkis>the kernel has to know to try to connect to your particular piece of hardware using that driver.
23:44<mendelmunkis>I could be completely misunderstanding how it works, but I had a similar issue which this worked for.
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