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#debian IRC Logs for 2019-04-18

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02:30<at0m>ullbeking: their irc bridge still on? been some years since i used it. funny story, one day admin pops in the slack channel "wiped backlog cos you folks shouldnt know about that". i went "uh what you wiped my local backlog, how did that work?" i don't think folks there understand what it's like to use your own client, not the web frontend
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02:31<ullbeking>at0m: i've had dreadful experiences with slack of a similar nature
02:31<ullbeking>idk if their irc bridge is on. i thought it was off and that wee-slack did some sort of other jiggery-pokery
02:33<at0m>"let's take irc/xmpp and wrap it up in a website with fancy icons then sell it and get coorp inhouse info for free"
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09:06<Xeos>Hello, I have installed Debian in Dual Boot but grub doesn't start. I start directly on Windows. I had disable fastboot and secure boot. I tried to repair grub with live-usb debian but don't work... what can I try to do ?
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09:17<Xeos>Nobody talk or I have a problem ?
09:22<bremner>both
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09:24<Xeos>x)
09:25<Xeos>so there is 382 persons and nobody talk. Why they come ?
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09:29<duclicsic>Xeos: I'm sure they have a variety of reasons, some probably just read the channel in the hope that they learn things. Some sit here all day in case there is some question they can help with. Some probably just joined once and never left.
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09:31<Xeos>ok thank* you
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09:34<Xeos>so I have a problem with my Dell laptop, I installed Debian in dual-boot, I had disable fast boot and secure boot and tried to repair grub but it start directly on windows... Can you indicate paths for reflection ?
09:38<jcrain>*shrug* press F9 when it's starting up? Or possibly some other key? It's what I have to do on my HP machines if I don't reconfigure the boot drive in the bios.
09:40<Xeos>I tried to select the good file ".efi" in the bios but it still boot on windows. I will try F9 and other key...
09:40<petn-randall>Xeos: If you EFI boot, you can change the boot entry to "debian".
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09:42<Xeos>I have a file named "boot.efi" I think it is for debian because I saw other file with windows in the name
09:43<petn-randall>Xeos: "boot.efi" is not a file generated by Debian's grub.
09:44<petn-randall>You should have a EFI System Partition with a directory structure /EFI/debian/, containing these files: fbx64.efi fwupx64.efi grub.cfg grubx64.efi mmx64.efi shimx64.efi
09:44<petn-randall>If you don't, you maybe didn't install Debian in EFI mode.
09:44<petn-randall>Xeos: Did you change the settings for CSM boot or legacy boot?
09:45<Xeos>ok thank you, it is that I think
09:45<Xeos>I don't find how to change that, I don't see legacy boot...
09:47<Xeos>is it obligatory for boot on grub ?
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09:53<petn-randall>Xeos: No, however you need to choose legacy or EFI boot before you start installing, and then stick to it if you want to be able that OS. This is not specific to Debian though, all OSes are affected.
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10:04<Xeos>sorry I am newbie and IRC and had a problem to come back
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14:58<IslandUsurper>I needed a newer version of awscli, so I decided to try out buster since it's nearly stable. And I got bitten by the transition to nftables. I found iptables-restore-translate, but each line gave an error like "file or directory not found". Thankfully I also found the alternative for iptables-legacy so I can use this computer still, but it'd be nice to use the new paradigm. But I need assurances that poking around at it won't lock me out
14:58<IslandUsurper>of the Internet again.
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15:23<jhutchins_wk>IslandUsurper: Why are you running an on-system firewall?
15:24<jhutchins_wk>IslandUsurper: Is your system directly on the internet and not behind a router/firewall?
15:24<IslandUsurper>-jhutchins_wk It's behind a router.
15:26<jhutchins_wk>IslandUsurper: So put a decent firewall on the router and don't worry about on-system.
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15:49<IslandUsurper>OK, fair enough
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15:56<jhutchins_wk>That works better, the router is designed to handle the kind of traffic that problems cause, and it leaves your server's resources free to do the server's job.
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