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07:05<hellohello29>Hello everyone, I don't understand why the unzip upgrade is not available in the security repository. Could someone explains me why?
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07:06<bremner>hellohello29: do you have a CVE or DSA number?
07:07<hellohello29>CVE-2018-1000035.
07:07<bremner>I don't see a recent DSA. It might still be in progress.
07:07<hellohello29>unzip (6.0-21+deb9u1) stretch; urgency=medium * Fix buffer overflow in password protected ZIP archives. Closes: #889838. Patch borrowed from SUSE. For reference, this is CVE-2018-1000035.
07:07<judd>Bug https://bugs.debian.org/889838 in src:unzip (closed, security, upstream): «unzip: CVE-2018-1000035: Heap-based buffer overflow in password protected ZIP archives»; severity: important; opened: 2018-02-07; last modified: 2019-03-21.
07:08<bremner>hellohello29: it was included in a point release, it's in stable
07:08<bremner>afaict
07:09<hellohello29>What do you mean by "point release" ?
07:09<bremner>in Debian 9.9
07:09<hellohello29>Ok but why it is not avalaible in the security repository too?
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07:10<bremner>probably because it was a low priority fix
07:11<hellohello29>So, you are saying that some vulnerability fix are not provided by the security repository oO
07:11<bremner>CVEs cover a pretty broad range of things.
07:11<bremner>but yes, if you want all the fixes, you need to upgrade to the latest point release
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07:12<blast007>!9.9
07:12<dpkg>Debian 9.9 was released on Apr 27, 2019. This point release corrects some serious bugs and copies security updates across to the main archive. Given the <kernel ABI> has changed, apt-get will require a dist-upgrade to upgrade. Further details are at https://www.debian.org/News/2019/20190427 and http://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/stretch/ChangeLog . To upgrade, ask me about <point release>.
07:17<hellohello29> Low-impact issues not qualifying for a DSA can be fixed in the next release of Debian, in a point release of the current stable or oldstable distributions, or are included in a DSA when that is being issued for a more serious vulnerability.
07:17<bremner>hellohello29: for context, that CVE mentions "to possibly achieve code execution", so there's apparently no exploit known.
07:18<hellohello29>lol
07:18<bremner>lol?
07:19<hellohello29>You are saying that if there is no public exploit, it is ok.
07:19<bremner>no. I'm saying it's a lower priority fix
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07:20<bremner>anyway, it would be less work to upgrade your machine to the latest point release than argue about it, for most users.
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07:22<hellohello29>CVSS v3.0 Severity and Metrics: Base Score: 7.8 HIGH
07:22<hellohello29> CVSS v2.0 Severity and Metrics: Base Score: 6.8 MEDIUM
07:23<hellohello29>I think you don't understand why I am concerned about it. The less you upgrade your packages, the less is the risk to have one which breaks something even if the upgrades provided by Debian are quite safe.
07:23<blast007>hellohello29: what is your concern about it not being in the security repository?
07:26<blast007>point releases aren't major updates. it's mostly (I believe) just merging the updated packages from security and the updates repo into the main repo. "They usually incorporate the security fixes released until the time of the update and fixes for grave bugs in the current release."
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07:33<hellohello29>In the case I described, the update about security looks to be coming from the main repo, even if it is 100% security relative and has a base score of 7.8 from CVSS v3.0
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11:26<iste>is uniq fundamentally broken for utf-8 and is there an alternative that isnt
11:26<iste>ミ|ツ|ミミ|ミツ where | is \n returns ミ|ミミ
11:28<iste>LANG=C uniq works so i think this is some locale thing thats messed up severely
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11:48<jcrain>iste: it's working for me in sid, but not in stretch
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11:53<iste>what is your locale?
11:54<iste>en_US.UTF-8 breaks it
11:54<jcrain>I'm using en_US.UTF-8
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12:26<petn-randall>In which unicode standard were those codepoints introduced? Maybe stretch didn't support that yet.
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12:40<cc>just checked
12:40<cc>doesn't work on debian 8 or 9 with en_US.UTF-8
12:40<cc>works on sid
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12:56<iste>petn-randall: somewhere in the 90s i think. its part of the standard japanese dialect which it should have no problem with
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12:58<iste>unicode 1.0.0 according to wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katakana_(Unicode_block)
13:02<iste>i assume this is something really messed up in glibc or locales
13:03<iste>░|め with uniq gives ░ as well
13:03<iste>i'm not sure what broke but it broke hard
13:05<iste>LANG=C works fine but this is really annoying. does anyone have some other distro like fedora available to test this to see if its a debian thing or upstream
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13:08<sarnold>iste: wow. crazy.
13:10<sarnold>using an lxd fedora 29, en_US.UTF-8 uniq appears to work fine
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13:46<cc>so probably en_US.UTF-8 locale does not have collation data for codepoints outside it
13:47<cc>at least on stretch
13:51<cc>ミ is E3 83 9F encoded
13:51<cc>ツ is E3 83 84 encoded
13:52<iste>is that something intentional?
13:52<iste>i would assume it isn't because it breaks a lot of unicode things
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13:56<cc>it's hard to say
13:56<cc>the fact that it works on sid makes it hard
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14:07<sarnold>iste,cc, here's a bug report for what's probably the same problem. No known fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/1774857
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14:43<iste>"Using the first test case, this does appear to be fixed in cosmic (glibc 2.28) and beyond, and only affect bionic (glibc 2.27), which certainly implies either an upstream or Debian fix slipped in between the two."
14:45<iste>well, there wasn't a security patch for this anyways (some different characters being considered the same sounds exploitable to me?)
14:47<iste>it's not a big deal for me since it stopped deleting different strings with LANG=C, but it seems like a really disruptive/potentially dangerous bug
14:47<iste>a lot of scripts use sort/uniq
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15:12<cc>tried to build the stretch version from pristine upstream source, but it won't build on sid
15:14<cc>"Please port gnulib freadahead.c to your platform"
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17:06<iste>did anyone write anything re: the glibc thing while i was gone?
17:10<sarnold>iste: no, nothing whie you were away
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17:41<cc>iste sarnold I've dug a bit deeper
17:42<cc>coreutils (uniq, sort, ls ...) use glibc function strcoll to compare strings
17:43<sarnold>cc,iste, there's a reasonable chance that b11643c21c5c9d67a69c8ae952e5231ce002e7f1 fixes it, but I couldn't figure out which hunk would do it.
17:44<cc>I'm checking on debian 8.10, when I call strcoll() from inside uniq source code I get 0
17:44<cc>strcoll() ミツ vs ミミ = 0 errno=0
17:44<cc>but then I tried to reproduce it standalone
17:44<cc>with exact same input (byte for byte)
17:45<cc>http://paste.debian.net/hidden/55aa676f/
17:45<cc>and strcoll() returns -27 for the same input
17:46<cc>using coreutils-8.26.tar.xz upstream source
17:47<iste>strcoll shouldn't return 0 on anything except certain control characters, right?
17:48<cc>http://paste.debian.net/hidden/64f32fe9/
17:48<cc>strcoll return 0 when it sees equal strings
17:48<cc>man 3 strcoll
17:49<iste>oh i thought it was some debugging thing
17:49<iste>and not return value, sorry
17:52<cc>so uniq is somehow calling strcoll in some special way
17:53<cc>or sets up environment for it somehow weirdly
17:53<cc>or has some strange wrapper around it
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17:53<cc>because as far as I can tell, glibc (i.e. strcoll itself) is fine
17:54<cc>it's returning expected results with input above
17:54<cc>treating ミツ and ミミ as different strings, not same
17:55<iste>https://github.com/lattera/glibc/blob/b426c80f5fa9dcaf9acc83072bb75f8bc9f773db/localedata/locales/iso14651_t1_common
17:55<iste>https://github.com/lattera/glibc/blob/master/localedata/locales/iso14651_t1_common
17:55<iste>the huge difference in size between these might explain why it messes up
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17:55<iste>https://github.com/lattera/glibc/commit/9479b6d5e08eacce06c6ab60abc9b2f4eb8b71e4#diff-b962b88363fd20bdaa23cf5d400a94b6 see commit here
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17:56<iste>- Infinite (∞) and empty set (∅) are treated as if they were the same character by sort and uniq
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17:57<iste>i think this is a fairly critical bug since... it breaks a lot of basic unicode functionality in the standard C library
17:57<iste>not sure how it went unnoticed/unfixed for so long if it really breaks this much of the unicode block
17:59<iste>and switching libc on a system to a later version not in repo doesn't seem like anything i want to attempt
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18:07<cc>iste again, I don't see a problem with glibc
18:07<cc>maybe you see something I don't
18:08<cc>then please show
18:09<iste>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1336308
18:10<iste>it's not any code in libc, rather the (formerly) included locales which treat multiple blocks as UNDEFINED
18:12<cc>again: I don't see any problem in libc behavior, nor in any of its data files (locales or whatever) :/
18:12<cc>I wrote this https://paste.debian.net/hidden/55aa676f/
18:13<cc>it uses libc strcoll (same as uniq)
18:13<cc>it works correctly for your input
18:13<cc>:/
18:15<iste>https://github.com/lattera/glibc/blob/master/localedata/locales/en_US
18:15<iste>LC_COLLATE
18:15<iste>% Copy the template from ISO/IEC 14651
18:15<iste>copy "iso14651_t1"
18:15<iste>END LC_COLLATE
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18:15<iste>floodkick.. did the stuff paste
18:16<sarnold>the last lin ewas END LC_COLLATE
18:16<iste>it was just four lines so i thought it wouldnt be anything
18:16<iste>yeah it pasted
18:19<cc>iste http://paste.debian.net/hidden/0aa62bbc/
18:19<cc>do you understand what is going on in this paste?
18:22<iste>add setlocale(LC_ALL, ""); at start
18:22<iste>and #include <locale.h>
18:22<cc>why?
18:23<iste>http://paste.debian.net/hidden/ae3f8a2c/
18:23<iste>it only breaks if you use locales
18:23<iste>but, it should never break
18:24<cc>ah, C standard stuff
18:24<cc>good point
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18:24<iste>if you don't set any locale, strcoll will just default to C
18:25<iste>and it ignores the environment
18:25<cc>yeah
18:25<cc>you are right, the bug is in glibc then
18:26<iste>Compares string str1 to str2. The result is dependent on the LC_COLLATE setting of the location.
18:27<cc>this does seem like a serious bug :/
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18:31<iste>i just realized that it does explain a bug i managed to 'fix' by removing a coll check like a year or so ago
18:32<iste>and i couldn't figure out what was going on
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18:34<iste>standard c library not comparing stuff correctly seems like it would be a security patch, but it would be like a year old upstream fix now
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21:22<LilUFO>hello
21:23<LilUFO>are the amdgpu drivers currently a part of testing relatively up to date?
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21:34<LilUFO>pugsley, do the testing amdgpu drivers support vega?
21:34<LilUFO>I had trouble with it earlier
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21:37<blast007>I see mention of vega on firmware-amd-graphics in buster. Do you have that package installed?
21:37<blast007>("that package" referring to firmware-amd-graphics, if that wasn't clear)
21:37<Nemoder>what trouble did you have?
21:38<LilUFO>trouble starting X with vega 8 device
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21:40<LilUFO>I'll have to mess with it a bit
21:40<blast007>do you have the package firmware-amd-graphics installed?
21:43<LilUFO>I'm not at my home computer right now :/ But I do remember installing all non-free firmware during install off a flash drive
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