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03:08<zleap>ji
03:08<zleap>hello
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03:11<zleap>how do i action a merge request on salsa.debian.org
03:12<jm_>I am not a debian developer, but we use gitlab at work - what do you mean with "action a merge request"?
03:12<zleap>ihave been issues wth a merge request but not sure what to do
03:13<jm_>as in gitlab saying it can't be merged?
03:13<zleap>working on a debiab presentation so getting some help with this and i need to pull in the changes
03:13<zleap>i am not sure what to do
03:14<zleap>i am used to github, so if you ussue a pull request i get a notification,
03:14<zleap>issue
03:14<jm_>I really don't understand what your actual issue is
03:15<snowyfox>It does seem like zleap wants to approve a merge request but
03:15<zleap>yes
03:15<snowyfox>zleap: Is it giving an error?
03:15<zleap>i don't know how to even approve the request
03:15<zleap>or where to look to find it
03:16<jm_>there's a Merge requests section in the web interface
03:16<zleap>so if i click that i get told filter produces no results
03:16<jm_>it will list all merge requests, click on one and there you will find Merge button if it's OK
03:17<zleap>so can i take from that the merge request hasn't wored
03:17<jm_>yeah probably merge request has not been submitted correctly
03:17<zleap>ah ok
03:17<zleap>thanks
03:17<zleap>i'll do mroe digging
03:17<jm_>no problem
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08:08<unreturned>Hello, guys! It will be pleasure, if you can review https://github.com/rfc1036/whois/pull/76 and help make improvement for whois program %) Thanks for attention
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09:48<petn-randall>unreturned: How is that related to Debian?
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09:58<unreturned>petn-randall, very indirectly, but whois is part of Debian repositories, maintainer of whois is debian developer and upstream of whois in debian. I apologize if disturbed)
10:14<petn-randall>unreturned: But you already got a response in the PR. It looks pretty clear to me that the maintainer is not interested in ignoring permission errors.
10:15<petn-randall>unreturned: A better approach would be to allow the program to read that config file.
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10:18<unreturned>petn-randall, Thank you for view! But if we cannot allow program to read config? Different situations, for example not priveleged enviroment.
10:19<petn-randall>unreturned: Then your ruleset is broken.
10:20<petn-randall>unreturned: You don't need to run whois with privileges for it to work. It's restrictions that you added that break the tool.
10:33<unreturned>petn-randall, But if i only user, and my system administrator do restrictions? whois can work without config file, because all needed information already compiled into. Config file used only for rewrite some rules in whois.
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10:34<unreturned>petn-randall, but now, if config file not accessible, whois just fail. And I as user can only recompile whois and have different binary in home dir
10:35<petn-randall>unreturned: If the system administrator does the restrictions, then the ruleset is still broken.
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10:47<petn-randall>It's not really specific to whois, or that config file in question, either. If you restrict read access to some libraries it's compiled against, it'll fail, too. Or any other tool that expects to read it's config files.
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12:26<furrymcgee>how does perl-debug work? gdb --args /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/perl prints cannot execute binary file: Exec format error
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15:48<instoogentall>Hello everyone. I installed a minimal netinst Debian Buster on a Thinkpad X201 with a wired network, then installed firmware-iwlwifi, and also KDE Plasma
15:48<instoogentall>It can scan all wifi networks, but gets stuck on "configuring interface" when I try to connect
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15:56<jhutchins>instoogentall: See what /var/log/messages and dmesg | less have to say about it.
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15:57<jhutchins>instoogentall: Also, lspci -nn and post the ID here, we'll make sure that's the right driver.
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16:04<instoogentall>jhutchins, sorry... after sending the messages here I tried something from the wiki (wifi.scan-rand-mac-address=no) and it seems to work now
16:05<jhutchins>Yay!
16:05<instoogentall>Thanks anyway!
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16:50<user_Max>Hi. Can I copy files from example: /etc/ to /home/user/ with changet owner to user without chown command?
16:53<sarnold>cp -a or tar p or rsync a
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17:03<user_Max>sarnold, no, I mean copy one (or more <- doesn't matter) file and change permissions in the same time for user permissions, becouse if I copy ROOT files to /home/$USER/ dir... this file is owned by ROOT still, so I know only one option -> chown command, there is other way? If I copy with this option I need to know to which user I copy, then I can chown with his name... but if I have 100 users and want to do it automatically
17:03<user_Max>like: THIS file is now on user_Max folder, so change permissions for user_Max. Like working ROOT permissions if You copy file from /home/$USER/ to for example /etc/apt/
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17:11<xellophane>user_Max, I'm not aware of a way to change a file's owners without running it through chown / chmod. If you're looking to do it one line there may be a way to pipe it.
17:11<wikiwide>user_Max: You need something like a bash script. First, a command which lists all these users. Then a loop over all this users.
17:12<wikiwide>When looping over users, you copy files for this user and chown them to that user
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17:15<user_Max>I use bad examples... user1 have some files, user2 don't see this files... I copy as ROOT files from user1 to user2, but want to make this files owned by user2... so only option is a chown in loop for all user2 files or something like this... I think
17:15<sarnold>probably better to have the cp execute as each user, then
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17:17<wikiwide>You copy as root. That's fine, I guess. What was it about 100-or-so users? Are you copying from user1 to users2, user3, user4, user5, ...?
17:21<user_Max>wikiwide, for example: /home/$USER/.config files, I want to change /home/$USER/.config/lxsession/LXDE/autostart, for user2, user7, user14
17:27<user_Max>I know I can do something like that: echo "commands... ETC" >> /home/$USER/file, but sometimes I just want to copy file to some place
17:27<wikiwide>https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/bash-for-loop/
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17:29<user_Max>ok, I will read this... BTW: thank You - sarnold , xellophane , wikiwide
17:30<wikiwide>USERS="@" For user in $USERS do cp /whateverLXDEautostart /home/$user/.config/lxsession/LXDE/autostart chown $user /home/$user/.config/lxsession/LXDE/autostart done
17:30<wikiwide>That's a rough draft of a bash script, and it's not a one-liner - it is in multiple lines, I think?
17:32<xellophane>If you can't pipe cp to chown it'd have to be in multiple lines I'd assume.
17:32<wikiwide>https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-bash-for-loop-one-line-command/
17:32<xellophane>I stand corrected.
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17:44<user_Max>I got it, thank You again :)
17:47<wikiwide>Be careful :-)
17:47<wikiwide>Can anybody help with chrome-remote-desktop? I don't think it starts. And I don't know why, or where its logs are.
17:49<wikiwide>Like, I say /etc/init.d/chrome-remote-desktop start , it says ok, and then I do not see it in ps aux | grep remote
17:51<wikiwide>How do I add a user to group chrome-remote-desktop ?
17:51<xellophane>useradd username chrome-remote-desktop iirc? Let me check that before I eat my shoe.
17:52<xellophane>Yup, lemme eat my shoe.
17:52<xellophane>usermod -a -G chrome-remote-desktop username
17:53<wikiwide>usermod -G chrome-remote-desktop -a username works?
17:54<wikiwide>Because I have already run it...
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17:56<pert>wikiwide: it might not take effect until logging out and back in, or restarting to be sure
17:56<xellophane>^ and what's the output of ps aux | grep chrome?
17:58<wikiwide>grep chrome
17:58<wikiwide>pert : How do I check which groups user currently belongs to?
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18:00<pert>tbh, I don't know - I've never had to do that
18:04<xellophane>I think groups username might work, or you might need the User ID instead.
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18:05<pert>^ yes it does work with username
18:06<user_Max>How to save process names to file? without time is sec... I try to do something like that:
18:07<user_Max>ps aux > ps1
18:07<user_Max>run program
18:07<user_Max>ps aux > ps2
18:07<user_Max>diff ps1 ps2
18:08<user_Max>diff can compare files line by line, so I can check what changes are between ps1 and ps2 file
18:09<user_Max>...so I will can check process name, but ps aux record seconds and other things
18:10<xellophane>Oh oh! I did something similar to this earlier, give me just a moment.
18:10<user_Max>trying to search it on web...
18:11<xellophane>you can do some magic with ps aux | sort. I don't have access to my book I was reading and won't be able to get to it for an hour or so.
18:13<xellophane>I'm not at my linux box to check, so you'll have to play with it a bit, but you could probably do ps aux | sort | unique >> ps1
18:13<xellophane>run program
18:13<xellophane>ps aux | sort | unique >> ps2
18:13<xellophane>and then diff ps1 ps2
18:14<user_Max>haven't "unique" command ?!
18:14<xellophane>Just beware that it might not sort correctly if you're running the same program with different arguments
18:15<xellophane>Hmmm... This is why I said I'd have to check my book e.e
18:15<user_Max>I need a moment to thinking...
18:16<xellophane>sort -u Sorry
18:17<user_Max>GOT IT! vvv
18:17<user_Max>ps aux | awk '{print $11}' > ps1
18:17<user_Max>(run program)
18:18<user_Max>ps aux | awk '{print $11}' > ps2
18:18<user_Max>diff ps1 ps2
18:18<user_Max>and result: 202a203
18:18<user_Max>> galculator
18:19<xellophane>Nice! glad you figured it out.
18:19<wikiwide>groups username works, thank you, xellophane ! Yes, all many groups, and chrome-remote-desktop too
18:20<wikiwide>pert, thank you too :-)
18:20<xellophane>wikiwide just glad my limited linux knowledge helped out.
18:21<wikiwide>Just glad I didn't bork my user by removing it from all groups ;-)
18:21<user_Max>eventually: diff ps1 ps2 | grep ">" | awk '{print $2}'
18:21<wikiwide>Anyway, chrome-remote-desktop still doesn't work. Will try tomorrow. Don't want to lug laptop around, it's like 2-3 kg.
18:22<user_Max>xellophane, thx :)
18:22<xellophane>user_Max no thank you, I like finding out extra little bash tricks ^.^
18:25<user_Max>xellophane, me too, me too...that's why I love Linux :)
18:35<user_Max>I need server to send my backups or for website etc, any suggestion? I can pay
18:36<Blendie>why not a vps?
18:36<user_Max>but which?
18:36<Blendie>i use digital ocean, it's ok
18:40<user_Max>Blendie, how much years You use it?
18:40<Blendie>i think i started back in 2013
18:41<phazon>backblaze is $0.05 USD a month for 10GB, with first 10GB free; $0.01 per GB to download
18:41<user_Max>Blendie, it stink google partner :/
18:41<Blendie>unfortunetly, yes
18:42<Blendie>they're an us based company
18:42<Blendie>still, as far as it goes for comfort it performs ok
18:43<user_Max>I need something simple to save some config files, photos, webcam server or make a simple website for hobby and home monitoring
18:44<Blendie>maybe get an rpi then?
18:45<user_Max>Blendie, ? You mean Rapsberry Pi server?
18:47<user_Max>Raspberry* <sorry
18:49<phazon>you can throw the freedombox debian blend on a Pi and load syncthing (a kinda dropbox-ish / file sync)
18:49<phazon>https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox
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18:50<Blendie>user_Max: yeah, it should perform well as a low-end nas
18:51<sarnold>be sure to think about what risks the different options will mitigate, and what new problems they introduce
18:52<sarnold>a raspi with drive is great for accidental deletions, or a dead hard drive, etc., but won't help mitigate fire, flood, etc.
18:52<sarnold>amazon glacier storage will protect against fire or flood or theft but if you actually need your data back, will take forever and cost a fortune
18:53<sarnold>tarsnap provides near-line encrypted storage, simple tar-like interface, etc, but is run by a fairly small company that might not survive a car crash :(
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18:57<xellophane>sarnold, tarsnap looks spiffy. I'll have to take a look at that.
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18:58<sarnold>xellophane: let me know what you think of it -- doing something better for backups has been on my todo list for a very long time :)
18:58<user_Max>but my IPS can't give me external IP
18:58<xellophane>sarnold, well now that's a question: do you have a financial interest in tarsnap?
18:59<sarnold>xellophane: I do not
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19:00<xellophane>user_Max, You might be able to get away with using dynamic dns from something like freedns.afraid.org
19:00<user_Max>and Freedombox is kind of router only ?!
19:00<xellophane>sarnold, wouldn't have bothered me either way, but had to ask :)
19:00<phazon>user_Max: freedombox supports PageKite for external connection, but you need to hook up to a relay https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/Manual/PageKite
19:01<sarnold>xellophane: tarsnap was written by the guy who started doing cross-cpu cache analysis https://papers.freebsd.org/2005/cperciva-cache_missing/
19:01<phazon>freedombox is a "home server" not a router, per se
19:01<xellophane>Oh fun. I'll definately take a look at it. :) might be worth making use of it.
19:02<phazon>basically a web ui wrapper around a tonne of other services/packages in debian repo (irc, torrent, tor, mail, etc)
19:03<user_Max>ok, so many informations for now, I need to read a lot :)... but thank You guys!
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19:26<user_Max>bye, for now...
19:27<sarnold>bye user_Max, have fun
19:27<user_Max>:) thx
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