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01:42<bodiccea>jhutchins, automount does - see autofs(8), and autofs (5). And look at my pastebin, last non-commented line. It has a star, and works perfectly. In fact, using "*" is the whole point of autofs for me: I don't need to know which mounts exist. I just need one to be exported somewhere, and my host resolution give me a hostname with same name as share.
01:49<bodiccea>Same for my hard disks: I mount any disk by its label name, auto-magically when I access it. The only line in my "auto.hd" is "* -fstype=auto,defaults :PARTLABEL=&".
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02:10<bodiccea>jhutchins, see a demo of wilcard with autofs here: https://pastebin.com/raw/0FeB0tF8 - my question is not about wilcard alone, but about a wilcard following a path, such as "string-*", that I would like to match "string-foo", "string-0", etc... autofs(5) seems to say it is possible (see my question), but I am not sure.
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02:38<jm_>bodiccea: have you considered using auto.smb?
02:42<bodiccea>jm_, it does not fit my needs, as server "hides" available mounts. And it does not allow what I need: accessint a mount by hostname/mount-name. For example, with my wildcard, "/mnt/cifs/foo" is mounted from "//foo/foo", that is: share "foo" on host "foo".
02:43<jm_>bodiccea: in that case you could write your own script to handle it, no?
02:46<bodiccea>jm_, wildcard works already, which fulfills most of my needs ("foo" case above). autofs(5) seems to say that I could use *also* the notation "bar* <options> ://&/&". This is what I cannot get to work.
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02:51<jm_>bodiccea: I think not, it's just "*"
02:53<bodiccea>jm_, autofs(5) says: "A key is a path (or a single path component alone) that may end in the wildcard key, "*", or the wildcard key alone and must not begin with the "/" character.
02:55<bodiccea>Do I misunderstand it? I understand that we can use a path followed by "*", or "*" alone. which would mean "foo*" would be valid.
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03:04<jm_>bodiccea: yeah it does indeed sound that way
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03:06<bodiccea>Will make some more tests with another map, with nothing else in it. Maybe there are some interference between "XX*" and "*" alone. There is not much literature on the subject :-)
03:07<jm_>looking in the sources I find several appearances of "/*"
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03:07<jm_>probasbly building it with debug support would make it easier to analyze if it's possible
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03:13<bodiccea>I will first test as it is. Not very urgent anyway: I just have a few more line in auto.cifs map, but it works. Meantime, another easy way which would also work would be to make specific maps for "foo*", "bar*" etc. with only "*" inside. Even if more flexible than multiple maps, in my case it would be too complicated simply to replace 10 specific lines :-)
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03:19<twb>"dpkg-reconfigure samba" doesn't prompt me for anything, but it says "Samba is not being run as an AD Domain Controller: Masking samba-ad-dc.service"
03:19<twb>How do I actually become an AD DC? I can't see anything about this on wiki.debian.org
03:20<twb>Sigh, I see that's in TODO.Debian: "handle ad-dc stuff" "have debconf question to configure ad dc"
03:21<twb>Looks like that stuff was lots when samba 4.x moved out of experimental and became "the" samba
03:22<twb>OK, the masking is happening in response to the content of smb.conf, so that part isn't too bad
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04:46<bklier>I'm running Debian 9.9 - every time I try to run ipython I get a somewhat strange error
04:46<bklier>http://paste.debian.net/hidden/701a64ac/
04:47<twb>bklier: does this happen for a fresh user?
04:48<bklier>twb: just a moment, I'll give it a try
04:48<twb>bklier: my first guess is you've lost some important low-level files, so I also suggest using a tool like "debsums" to look for damage/missing files
04:49<bklier>twb: for a newly created user everything's working fine
04:50<twb>bklier: OK.
04:50<twb>bklier: so now you get the exciting challenge of checking your environment variables and dotfiles &c for problems
04:50<twb>e.g. $PYTHONPATH
04:52<bklier>twb: any idea where to start?
04:52<twb>which ipython, env -i ipython, HOME=/canthappen ipython
04:53<jm_>or check if you have any python stuff being loaded from home dir - strace -e trace=file ...
04:54<twb>also a good idea
04:54<twb>The ideal strategy is called "bisection" --- comment out 50% of your stuff, is the problem still there? If not, it's in the half you commented out.
04:55<twb>The error message you originally pasted didn't give me any strong hints, unfortunately
04:55<bklier>twb: ok, it seems that the problem would be zsh
04:56<bklier>on my newly created user (which is using bash as shell) everything's working fine, but if I start a zshell I get exactly the same problem
04:56<jm_>so probably some env stuff
04:56<jm_>try comparing output of 'env' with both
04:57<twb>especially check $PATH and $PYTHONPATH
04:58<bklier>twb: $PATH is exactly the same, $PYTHONPATH is missing in both of them
04:58<twb>keep looking then :-)
05:00<bklier>when I'm trying to run ipython from my users home I get the error message, when I'm changing my path to the home of the newly created user everything works fine.
05:02<twb>bklier: OK, then you might have a file in your $HOME that has the same name as a python module
05:03<twb>e.g. if you have ~/sqlite3/__init__.py, a python program that tries to "import sqlite3" will get your library, instead of the real one
05:03<bklier>*facepalm*
05:03<twb>strace might help you spot that
05:03<twb>I would actually do an initial brute-force of just listing all the files it accesses:
05:04<twb>strace -fetrace=file ipython 2>&1 | cut -d\" -f2 | sort | uniq -c
05:04<twb>maybe grep for /home/bklier
05:09<bklier>http://paste.debian.net/hidden/a4f82afd/ there doesn't seem to be anything suspicious in there
05:11<twb>bklier: does that ~/.local/lib/python2.7 stuff actually exist?
05:11<twb>BTW, Python 2 is end-of-lifed in 6 months; you should NOT be using it for new projects
05:12<bklier>twb: yes, ~/.local/lib/python really exists.
05:12<twb>bklier: then I would check if all that stuff is compatible with the system you're on
05:12<bklier>and I know that Python 2 is eol - I just need some time to get used do Python 3 (and my ipython3 has similar issues... ;-) )
05:13<twb>bklier: e.g. those .pyc files might be sensitive to endianness or word size
05:13<bklier>http://paste.debian.net/hidden/eb96df2d/
05:13<bklier>that's a strace of a working ipython startup (running from /tmp/ in this case)
05:14<twb>diff them, I guess
05:14<bklier>done that ;-)
05:14<twb>or better, diff the raw strace -e trace=file output
05:14<bklier>starting ipython from my home doesn't seem to read ~/.ipython/ or ~/.config/ipython...
05:15<twb>Probably the diff will be mostly the same up until the problem file(s), so easy to spot by looking for the sea of red lines suddenly appearing
05:17<bklier>twb: thank you very much for your help...
05:17<bklier>there's been a __future__.pyc floating around my home. right after eliminating that little ******* everything's running fine again :-)
05:18<twb>cool
05:18<twb>newer python puts byte-compiled files in a separate place to reduce the damage
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05:19<bklier>twb: sometimes you just don't see the wood for the trees... ;-)
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05:48<marcony>hello everyone, does somebody can help me? I'm using Parrot os how i can add the PPA repository? sudo add-apt-repository ppa: not working
05:48<grove>!parrot
05:48<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrotsec on Freenode, the community pages https://docs.parrotsec.org/community, or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
05:50<grove>!why not use a ppa
05:50<dpkg>PPAs (Ubuntu's Personal Package Archives, see <PPA>) are not built against Debian releases, they are built against Ubuntu releases. This makes using packages from them on a Debian box highly unlikely to work out well. Ask me about <ssb> <package recompile> <bobbitt>.
05:50<grove>(the point of that probably also applies to your situation)
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07:58<drzacek>Hello there
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07:59<drzacek>I would like to be able to update system from usb drive. The system I would want to update has no network connection - I would like to prepare special dir to act as repository and then update from it. Where do I start?
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08:02<@themill>I find apt-offline works well. Others use apt-zip
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08:05<drzacek>I'm hoping I don't have to download WHOLE mirror? Only cherry-pick the needed packages (idealy by compairing the list of installed packages vs available updates for them?)
08:08<@themill>you don't need a whole mirror, that's what those two packages do for you
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10:44<drzacek>themill, any chance you're responsible for me not being able to apt-get it on stretch?
10:44<drzacek>ekhem
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10:45<@themill>apt-offline is in stretch
10:45<drzacek>I'm trying to install apt-offline, it has python-wstools as one of the dependencies and there seem to be some problems while downloading it
10:46<drzacek>https://packages.debian.org/stretch/all/python-wstools/download trying to download it manually also fails - "network error". Am I doing something wrong?
10:48<@themill>there's nothing wrong with python-wstools in stretch
10:49<drzacek>http://paste.debian.net/1083722/
10:50<drzacek>can install other packages without problems
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15:33<mendelmunkis>is there a dummy pseudopackage I can test my reportbug config against?
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15:56<user_Max>$ eject ; sleep 1 ; eject -t ... :D
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17:06<user_Max>libavcodec-extra ? should I install it?
17:09<user_Max>...in practice, what is it for?
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17:16<cc>every package has a description
17:16<cc>apt show libavcodec-extra
17:16<cc>and read
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17:19<user_Max>yes, but description is not specific: This metapackage depends on the latest version of the libavcodec variant that offers additional codec support. Application packages can depend on it if they require or suggest this variant in a robust manner.
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17:23<user_Max>...nevermind
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17:56<user_Max>sometimes Midori and Firefox freezing, how to check why?
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17:57<user_Max>...I try to change TAB and RIP...
17:58<sarnold>user_Max: start a vmstat 1 in a terminal and wait for a bit, see what it looks like 'idle' -- then try changing tabs, and see if it changes much
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18:04<user_Max>sarnold, thank You, but I don't know how to understand this "numbers" and it's kind of random freezing, 1 per hour or something
18:05<sarnold>user_Max: the si and so columns are usually the most important ones -- they show how much swap IO there is
18:05<sarnold>user_Max: if those are anything other than a steady stream of zeros, you probably need more RAM or less workload
18:06<user_Max>si all the time is zero
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18:17<user_Max>.mozilla/firefox/Crash Reports <- don't see anything special
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18:19<jmcnaught>clobbies: www-data needs execute permission on a directory in order to enter it, so you probably want to "chmod g+x /var/www"
18:19<jmcnaught>oops
18:19<jmcnaught>clobbies: sorry
18:22<ksk>slightliy offtopic, how is the channel volume in here, compared to the freenode debian irc channel? ;)
18:24<duclicsic>it goes to 11
18:26<thsnr>user_Max: usual first steps for debugging firefox issues are to create a new profile, disable all add-ons, and see if the problem persists
18:26<jmcnaught>firefox has a "restart with add-ons disabled" under its help menu
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18:27<user_Max>thsnr, haven't add-ons, because they not working for me now...
18:31<user_Max>and I have random freezing with Firefox and Midori
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18:36<user_Max>ok, nevermind, I will check it later and will report... but thank You anyway :)
18:36<thsnr>then i would give the same advice of having vmstat 1 (or any other system monitor that preserves history) running in the background and see which number "jumps" during the freeze
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18:41<user_Max>thsnr, will try it next time. thank You.
18:42<user_Max>need to go, bye all.
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