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#debian IRC Logs for 2019-05-20

---Logopened Mon May 20 00:00:48 2019
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00:31-!-cootcraig is "Craig Anderson" on #suckless #morpheus #debian
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00:32-!-tomg is "Tom Goulet" on #initfreedom #rust-beginners #rust #debian-dpkg #debian-quebec #debian-offtopic @#debian-support #debian-next #debian
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00:45-!-thiras is "Ant" on #debian #linode #tami
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00:47-!-laokz is "laokz@foxmail.com" on #debian #debian-zh
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01:03-!-Ingvix is "-" on #debian-next #debian
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01:11-!-bodiccea is "bodiccea" on #oftc #debian-next #debian #bash #kernelnewbies
01:13-!-mnemonic is "semeion" on #bitlbee
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01:29-!-czesmir is "Stefan" on #debian
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01:30-!-SkarmoutsosV is "Vangelis Skarmoutsos" on #debian-i18n #debian-next #debian
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02:03-!-weedloser is "realname" on #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian
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02:29-!-ao2 is "ao2" on #vcs-home #debian #cell
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02:37-!-skitt is "Stephen Kitt" on #debian
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03:46-!-towo` is "Torsten -towo- Wohlfarth" on #siduction-admin #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian #aptosid
03:47-!-vicamo [~vicamo@61-220-137-37.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #debian
03:47-!-vicamo is "You-Sheng Yang" on #debian-kde #debian-dkms #debian-desktop #debian-bluetooth #debian-apt #debian
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04:07-!-vicamo is "You-Sheng Yang" on #debian-kde #debian-dkms #debian-desktop #debian-bluetooth #debian-apt #debian
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04:19-!-Edhil is "One of the last" on #debian
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04:21-!-sidmo__ is "sidmo" on #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian-kde #debian
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04:34-!-Texou is "Jean-Philippe MENGUAL" on #debian #debian-es #debian-devel-es #debian-devel-it #debian-l10n-fr #debian-a11y
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05:48-!-laokz is "laokz@foxmail.com" on #debian #debian-zh
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07:30-!-SkarmoutsosV is "Vangelis Skarmoutsos" on #debian-i18n #debian-next #debian
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08:55-!-laokz is "laokz@foxmail.com" on #debian #debian-zh
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09:19-!-Natureshadow is "Dominik George" on #debian #debian-games #debian-edu
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10:05-!-towo` is "Torsten -towo- Wohlfarth" on #siduction-admin #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian #aptosid
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11:09-!-t3chn0 is "KLOS Staff Member - https://kloshost.online" on #tor-dev #oftc #debian-offtopic #debian-es #debian-devel-es #debian
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11:37-!-andibmu is "Andreas B. Mundt" on #debian #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian-edu #debian-lan
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14:05<user_Max>Hi. How can I check if I have a damaged disk?
14:05<sarnold>if you're lucky it'll show up in smartctl
14:11<Natureshadow>Uff… while :; do echo Never put important stuff on tmpfs.; done
14:11<Natureshadow>Can I get the binaries I uploaded to unstable and that have been accepted, but not yet dinstall'ed, somewhere?
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14:52<user_Max>Can I have damaged disk if I have:
14:52<user_Max>Invalid partition table!
14:52<user_Max>No bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key
14:53<sarnold>maybe, if you expected that drive to be bootable
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15:06<rwp>Natureshadow, Yes. Those binaries exist and can be downloaded. But I don't recall the details of where at the moment.
15:06<Natureshadow>incoming.debian.org
15:07<Natureshadow>#debian-devel helped ;)
15:08<rwp>Cool! Thanks for that info. I learned something today.
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15:18<jhutchins_wk>user_Max: Boot to a live CD/Rescue Mode and run fsck on the un-mounted device.
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15:24<user_Max>jhutchins_wk, I have launched Linux on this disk, but all the times I have Invalid partition table! On this disk I have Windows too, and can't launch after this error...
15:24<user_Max>so can I now do: fsck /dev/sda ? I will not lose data?
15:27<user_Max>"/dev/sda is in use" so I can't... live CD is only one option?
15:32<towo`>1st /dev/sda is a disc, not a partition
15:32<towo`>2nd how can sda in use if linux doesn't boot?
15:32<sarnold>I strongly advise against fscking a disk you think is dying
15:33<towo`>3rd if there is no valid partition table, there is no partition for fsck
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15:36<user_Max>I can boot Linux from BIOS but windows no, and sometimes I need to do it 2-3 times, but is Linux booting. I wondering if should I buy new disk, or this is good, but something is wrong.
15:39<user_Max>if I want to boot Linux I need to use UEFI? or something like this. In other way is only: Invalid partition table. I check it with smartctl, testdisk and see nothing bad.
15:40<towo`>if windows is installed in uefi mode, it can't boot with bios
15:40<towo`>and i can't follow your real problem
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15:44<user_Max>...and it's weird because I has it on 3 computers (2 laptops, 1 PC) in near 1-2 week. I will try with Live-CD and Rescue Mode.
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15:47<sqrt{not}>if you get this fixed enough to boot windows again, i strongly suggest you disable the windows "fast startup" (formerly called "fast boot"). see this: https://lifehacker.com/enable-this-setting-to-make-windows-10-boot-up-faster-1743697169
15:47<sqrt{not}>even if you did this before, MS keeps turning it back on in their updates process :((
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15:49<sqrt{not}>errrr, that link shows how to turn the damn thing on --- you actually want to follow the script, but turn it off
15:49<sqrt{not}>this link is better: https://www.windowscentral.com/how-disable-windows-10-fast-startup
15:51<sarnold>lol
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15:55<user_Max>ok, thank You all. I will follow Your suggestions.
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15:59<user_Max>and I am sure I turn off "Fast Boot", but maybe updates will turn it on on 2 computers, and that why I has problem on the same time ?!
16:02<sqrt{not}>That's what I am guessing -- I keep seeing it turned on again on my wife's 2 dual-boot computers, and I have turned it off several times on each machine.
16:07<user_Max>I will reject Windows and install 2 Linux: Debian and maybe Parrot.
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16:14<sqrt{not}>My wife's work has too much windows-only stuff, so we have to keep it. I just checked her laptop, and the "fast startup" is still turned off, BUT now it is installing windows updates, so I'll have to check if it stays off.....
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16:18<user_Max>I used Windows for games. But now I bought Xbox... so don't need Windows anymore :D
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16:22<sqrt{not}>user_Max: so now your challenge is to install linux onto the Xbox ;)
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16:32<user_Max>sqrt{not}, when I lose my guarantees :)
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17:33<user_Max>are You using MBR or GPT? (for Linux only)
17:34<user_Max>in other way, has You problem with GPT?
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17:36<sqrt{not}>user_Max: I've done it both ways on this Toshiba laptop without problems. I don't remember which way it is set now, and it is still updating: "Getting Windows Ready / Don't turn off your computer"
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17:38<user_Max>sqrt{not}, BTW You can check it as ROOT: fdisk -l | grep "Disklabel"
17:38<user_Max>...I think
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17:41<user_Max>I found something like that:
17:41<user_Max>"To dual-boot with Windows (both 32-bit and 64-bit) using Legacy BIOS, the MBR scheme is required."
17:42<user_Max>"To dual-boot Windows 64-bit using UEFI mode instead of BIOS, the GPT scheme is required."
17:44<sqrt{not}>OK, it just rebooted itself, and I interrupted to look at the settings -- it is in legacy BIOS mode -- works OK for linux and win10 apparently
17:45<user_Max>sqrt{not}, I see, thank You :)
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17:52<sqrt{not}>IIRC (from a couple years ago) I picked BIOS mode because that was the only one that also allowed USB-stick live systems to boot.
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18:00<user_Max>GTP can't do that?
18:02<sqrt{not}>I could be wrong, just trying to remember back then. maybe it was something about booting from CD ? I don't remember for sure anymore.
18:02<sarnold>there might not have been many rescue sticks formatted for UEFI booting
18:04<user_Max>so when I format my laptop disk, which should I use? MBR or GPT? WHat do You think? I don't need Windows and USB BOOT... GPT is new and better?
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18:05<AlexMax>If I'm on an ancient version of debian that's no longer even oldstable, how do I update it to the latest (wheezy) packages before doing a dist-upgrade?
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18:06<AlexMax>I'm getting mirror errors trying to update it as it stands
18:07<sarnold>AlexMax: you may have some success setting those apt sources to archive.debian.org, http://archive.debian.org/README
18:09<user_Max>AlexMax, ...maybe this will help: https://www.howtoforge.com/using-old-debian-versions-in-your-sources.list
18:14<AlexMax>it does
18:14<AlexMax>thank you
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19:01<sqrt{not}>user_Max: I would suggest keeping the option of USB boot -- a live system can be a powerful tool if you get into trouble
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19:03<sarnold>uefi secure boot usb boot should work now (I don't know if debian offers any such images, but it does exist)
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19:09<user_Max>sqrt{not}, I know... and my cd-rom on laptop disappoints... but I secured myself and bought external cd-rom... but wait it will work like cd-rom or USB things?
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19:10<user_Max>I test it and Live-CD work, but don't know it work as cd-rom or USB, because I has this and this on BOOT settings...
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19:44<user_Max>...life is better with $ scp ... :D
19:46<user_Max>...but I have only 11.1 MB/s
19:47<GenTooMan>better than 11.1KB/s
19:48<GenTooMan>It may take overnight or all day to install but it will install (eventually).
19:48<user_Max>worse than 11.1 GB/s :)
19:49<GenTooMan>Right... but that is a bit fast for any normal Internet connection.
19:50<user_Max>yeees, it's ok, I just kidding, I love this tool. Before I use pendrive :/
19:51<user_Max>used*
19:56<GenTooMan>To get that speed is a tad difficult unless you are a billionaire. Then you probably wouldn't care about speed either or be doing what you are now for that matter.
19:57<sarnold>GenTooMan: https://www.cdw.com/product/mellanox-connectx-6-vpi-mcx653105a-hdat-network-adapter/4883063
19:59<bremner>is 4h enough time to switch planes in GRU if I'm flying on two seperate tickets?
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20:16<GenTooMan>sarnold and the appropriate switch https://www.cdw.com/product/mellanox-spectrum-sn2700-switch-32-ports-managed-rack-mountable/5430598?pfm=srh
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20:17<bremner>err. sorry, wrong channel.
20:17<GenTooMan>bremner :D
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20:21<sarnold>GenTooMan: wow! I could save almost $14k if I buy today! what a bargain :D
20:22<sarnold>GenTooMan: (seriously I got my hopes ujp when I saw $3466.99.... then I saw that it is indeed a 100g switch and knew that was too good to be true. just the warranty. sigh. :)
20:27<GenTooMan>sarnold as I said you need an insane amount of money, just think of the cabling costs alone. So take your standard 100T network available and multiply by 100 and you might have the total cost about right. Then of course connecting to something that you could use it with...
20:28<user_Max>need to go... bye
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23:11<maxrazer>So, the Realtek microphone jack doesn't work in Linux. Seems to be an intel HDA driver thing.
23:18<sqrt{not}>Some Realtek support is supposed to be fixed in kernel 4.11 and later. you might try a stretch backprort kernel
23:19<maxrazer>I'm using Kernel 5.1.3
23:22<sqrt{not}>!linux-image-amd64
23:22<sqrt{not}>,v linux-image-amd64
23:22<judd>Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 -- jessie: 3.16+63+deb8u2; jessie-security: 3.16+63+deb8u4; stretch-security: 4.9+80+deb9u6; stretch: 4.9+80+deb9u7; stretch-backports: 4.19+104~bpo9+1; buster: 4.19+105; sid: 4.19+105
23:24<maxrazer>The audio plays back like a mouse really fast.
23:27<maxrazer>But, this is not a new problem with the kernel. It has been like this.
23:30<maxrazer>I only found this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/UpgradingAlsa/DKMS
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23:42<twb>Actually fstrim.service should really have ConditionPathExists=/etc/fstab, since under ZFS, you don't need an fstab anymore :P
23:42<twb>Oops, wrong channel
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