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00:00<Shamancito>just learn a bit
00:00<omium64>That's how you learn about it
00:00<omium64>If you break it, that helps because thats also the key to preventing that break in the future
00:00<omium64>for every user
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00:07<Shamancito>maybe sometime
00:07<Shamancito>Ill try a more relaxed approach
00:07<somiaj>Though I would suggest leanring stable and get use to how debian works before venturing that far. But it depends on how deeply you want to jump into things
00:08<omium64>good choice
00:08<Shamancito>agreed, little jumps at a time maybe go farther than a big leap and catastrofic landing
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00:30<omium64>Stretch with Stock Kernel seems to work really well
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01:37<omium64>How long will Backports recieve security updates for?
01:39<jm_>backports don't get the same security support as main repository
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01:43<omium64>I understand that
01:43<omium64>But how long can I use a backports kernel and be safe?
01:45<jm_>you'll need to track it yourself - see https://backports.debian.org/FAQ/ where it mentions the security tracker etc.
01:45<omium64>so much work
01:46<omium64>ugh
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03:38<grummund>Hi, is this the Right Way to prevent apt caching deb files? -
03:38<grummund>Dir::Cache::archives ""; Dir::Cache::srcpkgcache ""; Dir::Cache::pkgcache "";
03:39<grummund>the issue is limited disk space.
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03:40<ach>!ok
03:40<jm_>according to the man page that shall work
03:42<jm_>maybe also set pkgcache similar to srcpkgcache
03:42<grummund>you mean man apt.conf ? (that's where it was infered from)
03:42<jm_>yup, man apt.conf
03:42<grummund>ok, just checking because it seems a little convoluted.
03:44<grummund>yes i set both pkgcache and srcpkgcache ^
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03:47<jm_>ahh you did, somehow missed the last one
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06:17<user_Max>Why Debian froze and I need to restart? Before froze I burn DVD and play burned video from DVD. With Firefox opened.
06:17<peter1138>Debian didn't freeze, your computer froze.
06:18<user_Max>peter1138, how to check why?
06:18<peter1138>If it froze there's probably no logs.
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06:49<grove>Typically the way to "debug" freezes is guessing and trying to replicate the circumstances. As it stands there's not much we can eliminate as possible causes
06:50<user_Max>I see.
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06:53<jm_>also, it helps if you have another computer to connecto from, with serial console or network console
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07:15<Wrieh>Hello, I have a question, I want to create a FTP-server for a webpageschoolproject. I followed those instructions; https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-configure-ftp-server-on-debian-9-stretch-linux . But when I connect with Filezilla it gives me the next error; Command: PWD
07:15<Wrieh>Response: 257 "/var/www" is the current directory
07:15<Wrieh>Command: TYPE I
07:15<Wrieh>Response: 200 Switching to Binary mode.
07:15<Wrieh>Command: PASV
07:15<Wrieh>Error: Connection timed out after 20 seconds of inactivity
07:15<Wrieh>Error: Failed to retrieve directory listing
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07:16<Wrieh>Apache2/MariaDB/PHPMyAdmin are working great but I just can't get the FTP-server working :/
07:16<Wrieh>var/log/vsftpd.log isn't logging any errors aswell
07:18<Wrieh>Can anyone help me :)?
07:18<jm_>Wrieh: don't paste here, use the paste site
07:18<jm_>!paste
07:18<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: http://paste.debian.net | pics/screenshots: http://file.io/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): http://file.io or http://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
07:19<Wrieh>Sorry, didn't know about that; http://paste.debian.net/1084254/
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07:20<jm_>try passive vs active ftp thing
07:21<Wrieh>Do I have to open ports in my router to enable Active mode?
07:21<bremner>Do you really need ftp? scp or sftp (or rsync with ssh transport) would be much more secure
07:21<jm_>ftp is a royal pain in that regard
07:22<jm_>so yes, you will need to open ports, so if you can use something else, your job will be much easier and safer
07:22<Wrieh>What's a better simple option? Security is not really a issue here.
07:22<DusXMT>ssh/sftp/rsync is incredibly simple
07:22<Wrieh>I have SSH running.
07:23<jm_>then just install rsync and it will work
07:23<DusXMT>Wrieh: Then you already have access to transferring files and synchronizing directory trees :)
07:23<Wrieh>LOL
07:23<Wrieh>I just had to change port 21 to 22
07:23<Wrieh>and it works
07:24<Wrieh>Sometimes life is simple :)
07:24<blast007>22 is SSH
07:24<Wrieh>Ye I know, but didn't thought it would work without some special software
07:24<jm_>yeah filezilla supports sftp
07:24<blast007>make sure to get rid of the FTP server if you're not using it
07:25<Wrieh>I'm removing VSFTPD and FTP now :) thx for all the help
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08:58<supaman>what apt app is it again that takes "why" as a parameter and tries to tell you why or why not you should install a certain package?
08:58<petn-randall>supaman: aptitude
08:58<supaman>or did I dream that one up? :-)
08:59<supaman>ahh, ok, thanks petn-randall
08:59<petn-randall>yw
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10:33<ksk>that might be kind of the the only aptitude advante over apt that I do make use use of from time to time.. (why)
10:33<ksk>s/use use/use/
10:33<GyrosGeier>the interactive resolver is also nice
10:34<GyrosGeier>"no I don't want to remove that package, find me a solution that leaves it"
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18:21<rpifan>hi
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18:37<rant>rpifan: yes?
18:38*rant is not a rpifan
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18:41<rpifan>why not
18:51<fdelapena>what about rpi3bfan?
18:52<rpifan>well i sitll like the pi
18:52<rpifan>i remember long ago
18:52<rpifan>it was seen as vaporware
18:55<rant>this is more a discussion for #debian-offtopic.. here we do debian support issues
18:55<rpifan>right
18:55<rpifan>debian is awesome, support?
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