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#debian IRC Logs for 2019-06-08

---Logopened Sat Jun 08 00:00:02 2019
---Daychanged Sat Jun 08 2019
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00:00-!-user [~user@2a01:c50f:e1c4:7900:a00:27ff:fe00:b39a] has joined #debian
00:00-!-user is "realname" on #debian #debian-es
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00:04-!-dboehmer__ is "Daniel B\xF6hmer,,," on #debian
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00:50-!-weedloser is "realname" on #debian #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian-apt #debian-dpkg
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02:06-!-SkarmoutsosV is "Vangelis Skarmoutsos" on #debian-i18n #debian-next #debian
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02:21-!-andibmu is "Andreas B. Mundt" on #debconf-hamburg #debian-meeting #debian #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian-edu #debian-lan
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02:23-!-bony is "Bhuvan Krishna,,," on @#fsmi #debian @#eswecha @#swecha @#swechaap #debian-installer #freedombox @#balaswecha
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02:25-!-WarFox is "Todd Martin,,," on #debian
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02:30-!-qwer is "alfa omega" on #debian
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02:37-!-Talkless is "Vincas" on #debian-next #debian
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02:57-!-dust is "dust" on #debian-games #debian #debian-next #debian-science #linux-rt
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03:06-!-zamuro is "Romanes eunt domus" on #debian #debian-es #debian-ve
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03:34-!-ansel is "Andreas Seltenreich" on #debian
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03:51-!-dutchfish is "Wil van Lierop" on #debian-devel-changes #debian
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04:01-!-andibmu is "Andreas B. Mundt" on #debconf-hamburg #debian-meeting #debian #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian-edu #debian-lan
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05:44-!-kritzefitz is "Sven Bartscher" on #debian-haskell #debian-next #debian
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05:48<user>lol wot
05:49<user>Anyone there
05:49-!-user is now known as Guest4683
05:49<cc>sure
05:49<Guest4683>Hey
05:49<cc>a whole lot of people
05:49<Guest4683>Can toy see this?
05:49<cc>sure
05:49<Guest4683>yes?
05:50<Guest4683>Hello?
05:50<cc>...
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05:59-!-SkarmoutsosV is "Vangelis Skarmoutsos" on #debian-i18n #debian-next #debian
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06:00<venom>hey
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06:01<azeem> /w 5
06:01<azeem>oops
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06:52-!-andibmu is "Andreas B. Mundt" on #debconf-hamburg #debian-meeting #debian #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian-edu #debian-lan
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07:22<guardian>hello, what's the URL again to have a glimpse on how far we are from buster release? I don't remember if it was the bug tracker or something else
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07:26<DusXMT>guardian: perhaps https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/other/testing.html ?
07:27<guardian>ok so that's 101 bugs and this counter can raise right?
07:30<DusXMT>Of course, as new bugs are reported
07:30<DusXMT>That's why testing is called "testing"
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08:48<yonatan>Hello, how are you all doing?
08:49<petn-randall>hi yonatan!
08:49<petn-randall>Do you have a Debian support question?
08:50<yonatan>Yeah I do
08:50<yonatan>I use crunchbangplusplus
08:51<yonatan>And I can't install libreoffice
08:51<petn-randall>That is unfortunately not Debian.
08:51<petn-randall>!crunchbang
08:51<dpkg>CrunchBang Linux is a Live CD distribution originally based on <Ubuntu>, now based on Debian as of version 10, featuring the <Openbox> window manager. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.crunchbang.org/ #crunchbang on irc.freenode.net. See <based on debian>.
08:51<petn-randall>yonatan: You can find their support channel here ^^^
08:51<yonatan>"Now based on debian"
08:51<yonatan>Also I use
08:51<dboles>!based on debian
08:51<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
08:52<yonatan>The ++
08:52<yonatan>The original was discontinoued
08:52<petn-randall>That neither makes it Debian.
08:52<yonatan>It's based on debuan
08:52<yonatan>*Debian
08:52<petn-randall>yonatan: Check out the factoid above.
08:53<supaman>yonatan: yup, based on it and they make changes that people in #Debian have no idea how work, so can't support it
08:54<yonatan>It's almost only debian, it has all the debian repositories
08:54<petn-randall>yonatan: Maybe, maybe not. But please respect that we only support Debian in here. If you can reproduce the problem on a Debian machine, we're more than happy to help.
08:55<yonatan>Ok
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14:05<Guest4704>Hello, how can one place a package on hold with dpkg when there are more than one installed instance?
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14:07<jhutchins>Guest4695: How did you end up with more than one version installed?
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14:07<jhutchins>!hold
14:07<dpkg>hold is a status flag that tells the package manager to not automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package 'echo $package hold|dpkg --set-selections' or 'aptitude hold $package'. Note that prior to <stretch> "aptitude hold" is ignored by other package managers and aptitude won't necessarily use holds set with dpkg; see Debian bug #137771. See also <hold list>, <unhold>.
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14:13<annadane>isn't that fairly common for certain packages?
14:14<annadane>guest4704 may also have meant a .deb they installed themselves vs something installed via apt, i don't know
14:14<annadane>but if anything i guess it'd be the same syntax for other packages when you want to specify version numbers
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14:17<Guest4712>Sorry just noticed my cert expired. See:
14:17<Guest4712>echo 'libgnutls30 hold' | dpkg --set-selections
14:17<Guest4712>dpkg: error: illegal package name at line 1: ambiguous package name 'libgnutls30' with more than one installed instance
14:17<dpkg>You are person #2 to send an unparseable request, Guest4712
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14:21<Guest4712>Well do not understand, why can place libgnutls30:i386 on hold but not libgnutls30.
14:24<annadane>ah, multiarch
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14:24<annadane>yeah, i'm not sure why not, either
14:25<Guest4712>Thanks anyways.
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14:26<sqrt{not}>maybe if you can hold "libgnutls30:i386" you could also hold "libgnutls30:amd64" or whatever other arch-version ? what exactly are the installed instances that you have ?
14:27<somiaj>I smell an xy problem. One should not be wanting to hold packages in stable.
14:28<Guest4712>sqrt{not}: Indeed, do not know why did not try that. And yes that works; Thank You.
14:28<sqrt{not}>OK good -- it smelled like a sytax problem to me....
14:28<sqrt{not}>syntax
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14:28<Guest4712>somiaj: This is on a testing machine and asked here instead of #debian-next.
14:29<Guest4712>Because it is a more of a general question.
14:29<somiaj>I still wouldn't suggest holding packages in testing at this time, since it is basically frozen and you'll want the bug fixes that get included.
14:30<Guest4712>somiaj: Yes, but if do not place the package on hold can not update the others that need updating.
14:31<somiaj>see that is an xy problem. You should figure out why the other packages are no upgrading, and file a bug report if this is really the case (or something with your sources/packages on your system).
14:31<somiaj>i.e. fix the actual problem.
14:32<somiaj>I don't think putting the packages on hold is the solution I would suggest if there is a dependency/install issue. I would start out by listing all info in this bots factoid
14:32<somiaj>!bat
14:32<dpkg>In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use https://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
14:32<somiaj>then track down the actual cause of why these other packages cna't upgrade. File a bug report if it is really a bug (at this point in the freeze this bug seems strange)
14:32<Guest4712>somiaj: The package will not update due to a bug.
14:33<Guest4712>But the others are fine.
14:33<annadane>so it's an xyz problem :P
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14:34<somiaj>Do you have a bug report for this bug? Have you reported it?
14:34<Guest4712>No, is an apt-listbugs problem ;)
14:34<somiaj>so there is a bug report, care to share so we learn something, and if other users run into it, we cna point them to the bug report.
14:35<somiaj>this holding maybe a temporty issue, so follow the bug report and remove the holds once it is fixed.
14:35<bremner>ccccccfriblgtetcvjcluebrjdbbjfguijvtfcljurjg
14:35<bremner>thanks yubikey!
14:36<somiaj>best be changing your keys now?
14:36<bremner>nah. It's just some otp thing that I don't use
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14:37<Guest4712>somiaj: I did not report the bug, just tried to update the system and can not due to that bug. And yes will unhold right after updating the system, so will not forget.
14:37<somiaj>what bug, I'm courious, and like to be able to point other users at it if they hit it.
14:38<annadane>i've had that happen too, keepass will helpfully paste in the last window focused
14:38<jhutchins>Guest4712: Part of taking advantage of all this work other people have done is giving back by sharing what you learn.
14:38<jhutchins>Guest4712: Bugs that aren't reported don't get fixed.
14:38<annadane>which is fine, if you know that (and aren't so blaisee (spelling) about using the autotype feature)
14:39<Guest4712>somiaj: I'm placing it on hold to be on the safe side, but should not affect this system.
14:39<Guest4712>jhutchins: Please read above, Thank You.
14:39<Guest4712>judd: #929907
14:39<somiaj>thanks for the bug number.
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14:39<Guest4712>No problem.
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14:40<Guest4712>Forgot the judd syntax ;)
14:40<annadane>judd: bug 929907
14:40<judd>Bug https://bugs.debian.org/929907 in libgnutls30 (open): «libgnutls30: Connections to older GnUTLS servers break»; severity: serious; opened: 2019-06-02; last modified: 2019-06-04.
14:41<Guest4712>annadane: Thank You
14:41<annadane>messaging judd also reveals "bug #929907" works
14:41<annadane>but one involves less typing
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14:41<Guest4712>Yes
14:42<somiaj>yea, looks like there is a possible fix in place too.
14:42<annadane>think how much your fingers will thank you not having to shift number sign next time you're in emacs doing finger acrobatics
14:42<Guest4712>Hehe
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14:47<jhutchins>Is this a matter of older, weaker ciphers being deprecated?
14:50<Guest4712>somiaj: Anyways, Thank You for the cautionary words.
14:52<somiaj>jhutchins: seems it is something weird with the version being frozen in debian, as the next version upstream works. So I think they are cherry picking the fix.
14:53<somiaj>the bug report talks about how the .6 and .8 version works, but .7 doesn't for some reason, didn't follow it that closely
14:53<jhutchins>Meh. It happens.
14:53<jhutchins>"Oops, let's put that back".
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15:15<rhythm>hry
15:15<rhythm>hey
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15:15<Guest4717>anyone there
15:16<dboles>!ask
15:16<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
15:16<annadane>lots of people are here, yes
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15:16<dboles>good IRC client programs will even show you how many exactly
15:17<Guest4717>hey annadane
15:18<Guest4717>how this thing works ??
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15:19<Guest4717>anyone listening !!!!!!!!
15:19<dboles>IRC is a communication protocol. Debian is an operating system based on the Linux kernel. This channel is about Debian. Do you have a question about Debian?
15:20<dboles>otherwise it's not on-topic. This isn't a chat channel
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15:20<Guest4717>how to set a vp network in parrot os
15:20<Guest4717>>
15:21<Guest4717>**vpn netwrk
15:21<rant>!parrot
15:21<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrotsec on Freenode, the community pages https://docs.parrotsec.org/community, or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
15:21<dboles>!parrot
15:21<Guest4717>how to set vpn network in debian
15:22<annadane>someone go bitch at the parrot hexchat packagers or something and tell them to stop using #debian as the default channel
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15:23<dboles>in any case, that's a query that should go in google instead
15:26<jhutchins>Guest4712: First you install debian.
15:26<jhutchins>annadane: We used to have that problem with Ubuntu.
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15:31<DusXMT>jhutchins: looks like you pinged the wrong guest :)
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15:38<jhutchins>Yeah.
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18:12<sakax>quick question regarding release-critical bugs I don't fully understand:
18:12<sakax>Number concerning the current stable release: 797
18:12<sakax>Number concerning the next release: 99
18:13<sakax>how come current stable stretch has 8 times more release critical bugs as the buster?
18:13<sakax>or do I misinterpret these numbers?
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18:17<petn-randall>sakax: link?
18:17<petn-randall>ah, got it
18:17<annadane>https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/
18:20<supaman>yeah, I have been wondering for a long time how these rc bugs are calculated
18:20<petn-randall>sakax: Yes, though you can assume that many RC bugs are not pinned to versions in the tracker. So they might only affect sid, but bugs.d.o will assume they also affect all other versions unless explicitely tagged so.
18:20<petn-randall>So the RC bug number is fairly accurate for testing/sid, but take it with a pinch of salt for stable.
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18:21<supaman>so if a package has version 2.3 in stable, and version 2.4 in testing/sid, if a RC bug is filed against 2.4 does the system then say the bug concerns stable release (assumes the bug affects all versions before 2.4)?
18:22<supaman>and then a new release is put in testing/sid (v 2.4dfsg+something) and the RC bug is closed in testing/sid but not in stable since that still has a version that the RC applies to?
18:22<petn-randall>supaman: The reporter needs to explicitely tag it as "found in 2.4" and "does not affect 2.3", otherwise the tracker will assume all are affected.
18:23<petn-randall>supaman: Yes, that often happens.
18:23<sakax>ok, that clarifies it then, thanks petn-randall
18:23<supaman>ok, a step closer then :-)
18:25<supaman>so the 37 bugs that concerned the previous stable release, that is the number that was the final RC bugs when the release happened or have there possibly been added more?
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23:24<charliebrownau>Gday . Is this the channel to ask support questions or is that another irc channel/server ?
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23:31<charliebrownau>Question: Debian 9.9 with Intel E3-1230v3/GTX titan black/32gb ram in MATE crash's/locks up when I goto the appareance box to change wallpapers (Gallium 0.4 driver) ... I havent got around changing nvidia free or nvidias own drivers yet, running stock
23:31<charliebrownau>Anyone else get debian locking up and hanging in apperance, yet the mouse can move, yet you cant clicky on anything else
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23:36<sqrt{not}>charliebrownau: This is the right place to ask. Be a little patient, you will get answers. I don't know the answer but some will help you.
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