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#debian IRC Logs for 2019-06-09

---Logopened Sun Jun 09 00:00:16 2019
00:04-!-dboehmer [~quassel@pD9EA7407.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
00:04-!-dboehmer is "Daniel B\xF6hmer,,," on #debian
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01:00<Mocasino> can you package i3-gaps for debian? there is a bug open nearly from a year ago
01:00<Mocasino>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=909646
01:00<Mocasino>almost all other distros i tried have it in their main repository
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02:22<cesar>Hey, how come the routes I specified for my NIC in /etc/network/interfaces and rt_tables aren't created on boot?
02:22<cesar>interfaces file: https://paste.debian.net/1087067/ (last line is the route)
02:22<cesar>rt_tables file https://paste.debian.net/1087068/
02:23<cesar>I've set the first NIC to only start manually on one boot as well, to isolate the problem more, but the routes still didn't spawn
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04:52<Guest4775>hi at all, I've some problems installing grub on a logical volume, the error is
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04:53<Guest4775>grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding.
04:53<Guest4775>grub-install: error: will not proceed with blocklists.
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06:37<andrea10>hi at all, I've this problem and I've posted it here: https://superuser.com/questions/1446629/cant-install-grub-on-lvm-volume-for-virtualization-with-debootstrap , can anyone help me?
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06:42<cc>show output of mount
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06:48<anna>Hello
06:48<anna>Yesterday I installed the nvidia-driver package (with apt install) and now the glx support is missing. I am using debian stretch
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06:56<jelly>andrea10: grub thinks you have a filesystem right on top of that LV, instead of having a partition table on the device as your guide does.
06:58<jelly>andrea10: my approach is each VM has two disks, one just for grub and /boot partition, one for everything else (used as LVM PV inside the VM), without partitions
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07:13<AnnaIngolstadt>I installed nvidia-driver via apt install and anfter fixing some problems with X now I have a working X again gut GLX Support ist still missing
07:14<AnnaIngolstadt>I am using Debian Stretch
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07:18<jelly>AnnaIngolstadt: pastebin the output of "dmesg" (as root), "dpkg -l libgl\* | grep ^.i", contents of your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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07:24<jelly>AnnaIngolstadt: make that second command "dpkg -l libgl1\* | grep ^.i"
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08:14<andrea10>@cc @jelly https://pastebin.com/V3FSpFad here is mount after chroot
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10:42<namoamitabuddha>Hello, all.
10:42<namoamitabuddha>where to suggest edits for Debian Wiki?
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10:43<bremner>namoamitabuddha: how about just editing it?
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10:47<namoamitabuddha>Account creation failed: Automatic account creation disabled to stop spammers signing up. Please contact wiki@debian.org and describe what you want to do in the wiki.
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10:47<petn-randall>namoamitabuddha: If you ping them you should get an account fairly quick.
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13:11<jelly>andrea10: so you have ext4 directlly on that lvm, there's no place for grub to install its code
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13:17<andrea10>@jelly what's the difference between a folder and an lvm volume?
13:18<jelly>a folder (directory?) is a structure within an existing filesystem. A lvm volume is a block device, a bunch of disk space with no structure
13:19<andrea10>ok, what's the solution?
13:21<jelly>either explicitely reserve space on that LV (ie. partition it), or use a different block device for the boot loader (eg. a second LV)
13:22<jelly>using a partitioned disk for / filesystem has some issues, it's hard to extend it on the fly without a reboot
13:23<jelly>so at work we do the second option
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13:23<andrea10>in final 3 lv : boot, root and swap?
13:24<jelly>no
13:24<jelly>well, actually, yes that would work
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13:25<jelly>just remember to partition the one that will contain some free space for grub and a single partition for /boot
13:26<jhutchins>jelly: The downside of that LVM advantage is that we've got systems with 12 PVs assembled into one LV.
13:26<jelly>jhutchins: you don't have to use multiple PVs if you just grow them
13:26<jelly>growing PV can be done online
13:27<jhutchins>I'll have to look into that.
13:29<jhutchins>Don't you need to have un-allocated space?
13:29<jelly>andrea10's OS in VM won't even see LVM at all, it's going to be just whole "disks" inside
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15:45<andrea10>@jelly ok understand but I want to use one partition for the entire system like a physical disk, how can I found a guide for that?
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16:53<jhutchins>andrea10: Still there?
16:56<Abdullah>[9075:9075:0610/015418.388572:ERROR:nacl_fork_delegate_linux.cc(314)] Bad NaCl helper startup ack (0 bytes)
16:56<Abdullah>browser giving this error
16:57<jhutchins>Sounds like maybe a bad plugin. What browser?
16:58<jhutchins>Which release? What architecture?
16:59<Abdullah>google chrome, opera, qutebrowser
16:59<Abdullah>buster, amd64
17:00<Abdullah>I had this error before in another distro, and I solved it. but now I don't have browser.
17:00<Abdullah>can you google the error?
17:00<Abdullah>This error came after I upgraded to a new kernel (compiled)
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17:12<jhutchins>Abdullah: I think that's a buster specific problem. Can you boot to the old kernel?
17:12<jhutchins>!debian-next
17:12<dpkg>#debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
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17:21<Abdullah>jhutchins: yeah it was some .config error. I'm recompiling
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18:35<dpkg>Sorry jhutchins, you're not online.
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21:21<lucas_>Hi, I wanted to know how Debian manages the permisions on /sys/class/backlight files
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21:39<jmcnaught>lucas_: that's a good question. I would have guessed that logind would have set facl permissions on some device, but instead it seems that there are PolicyKit actions under /usr/share/polkit-1/actions governing root access to active local users.
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21:46<lucas_>hm... interesting
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23:09<twb>Anyone want to help me convince automysqlbackup to work with crappy non-Debian oracle mysql?
23:09<twb>(I normally only babysit pg, so I'm guessing hardcore)
23:10<twb>The immediate problem is that /etc/default/automysqlbackup is trying to mysql --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf --execute="SHOW DATABASES"
23:10<twb>...and Oracle MySQL doesn't have that
23:12<twb>http://ix.io/1LmF is where I got their debs from
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23:26<twb>Hrm, omitting --defaults-file seems to give the same output on a mariadb server, and it shows something sensible (when run as root) on the oracle system, so maybe that's sufficient
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23:27<tsundoku>does anybody know about this? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110509
23:27<twb>The contents of debian.cnf look to be pretty similar to the oracle ones -- basically "root is root and the socket is over there"
23:27<tsundoku>I have a machine running Buster with an RX 550 and every time I leave it unattended for a day or so I come back and it's like this (display blank, input devices not responding)
23:28<twb>tsundoku: buster questions go to #debian-next
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23:28<tsundoku>OK
23:28<tsundoku>thanks
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23:39<somiaj>twb: about this time in the freeze, we should start answering buster qustions here, as we do need to start learning buster a bit so we can support it once it is relased.
23:39<somiaj>though might depend on the question being asked if we should direct to #debian-next or not
23:39<twb>somiaj: fair enough
23:39<twb>Every other time I start helping here and get snarked at by greybeards :P
23:40<somiaj>yea, its a bit fuzzy when we should start supporting the next relaese here, and often times it helps to do it during the freeze instead of after the release.
23:40<somiaj>since during the freeze more and more people start using buster to help test it out
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23:50<prashant>hii
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