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#debian IRC Logs for 2019-06-10

---Logopened Mon Jun 10 00:00:18 2019
00:01-!-FoolishOwl [bgvaughan@00021ad2.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
00:01-!-FoolishOwl is "FoolishOwl" on #oftc #moocows #debian-next #debian
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00:05-!-dboehmer___ is "Daniel B\xF6hmer,,," on #debian
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00:16-!-weedloser is "realname" on #debian #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian-apt #debian-dpkg #suckless
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00:33-!-jm_ is "." on #debian
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00:39-!-peterS is "Peter Samuelson" on #debian
00:40<twb>UPDATE: automysqlbackup is creating *empty* .sql.gz files. It's explicitly discarding the exit status of mysqlbackup(1).
00:40<twb>So I give up on automysqlbackup and will just write my own, with less crappy bash.
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01:37-!-andibmu_ is "Andreas B. Mundt" on #debian #debian-lan
01:48-!-vicamo [~vicamo@61-220-137-37.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #debian
01:48-!-vicamo is "You-Sheng Yang" on #debian-kde #debian-dkms #debian-desktop #debian-bluetooth #debian-apt #debian
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01:49<cyberdevil>Hello
01:50<cyberdevil>how to crack wifi using parrot
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01:50<somiaj>!parrot
01:50<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrotsec on Freenode, the community pages https://docs.parrotsec.org/community, or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
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01:56-!-Q-Master^Work is "Vladimir Berezenko" on #debian
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02:07-!-YuGiOhJCJ is "YuGiOhJCJ" on #oftc @#yugiohjcj #qemu #debian
02:07<twb>on Debian the best way is to use a rubber hose. Unfortunately, most hoses lack enough RAM to run Debian
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02:09<twb>If the AP is using WPA2-Enterprise, you need to attack the RADIUS server.
02:09<twb>If the AP is using WPA2-PSK, Debian has aircrack-ng, but you will not get very far because key renewal doesn't suck in WPA2
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02:10-!-phebus is "Jonathan Phebus" on #debian
02:10<twb>If the AP is using WPA1 or WEP or is unencrypted, then who cares? It's already running a bitcoin miner for the Russians
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08:47<guandri>hello. I would like to save all my system with a backup software such as backintime. wich files should I save and wich shoiuld I ignore?
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09:06<cacatoes>guandri: various possibilities, but if you want to keep the system and its software i think you're good to backup all files (once unmounted)
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09:07<minikdo>hi, debian 9.9, I've got an openvpn server on 192.168.1.1 and a laptop ovpn client set to *external* ip of that ovpn server (instead of 192.168.1.1). The client works while outside of that lan. While in the lan it tries to connect to that external ip which doesn't work. Any way to solve it? Thanks
09:10<minikdo>So far I have to edit openvpn client config every time I go in/out that lan
09:11<ksk>minikdo: make your server accept request "to: $external-ip" on "internal-networkcard" - I suppose
09:11<ksk>depending on how you configured stuff, depending on how the packet from your laptop in lan flows.. (like, is it routed through the internet? not?)
09:12<minikdo>default via 192.168.1.1
09:14<minikdo>server.conf: http://paste.debian.net/1087221/
09:16<cacatoes>minikdo: might have to do with NAT hairpinning and your router abilities
09:17<minikdo>I see there is "local a.b.c.d # Which local IP address should OpenVPN listen on? (optional)
09:19<minikdo>actually it's unrelated
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10:32<guandri>cacatoes yes the "unmounted" is the problem XD
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10:36<guandri>because I do not wat to boot on a live OS each time I save the cimputer
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10:36<guandri>maybe I have to ignore some folder
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11:59<annadane>people basically recommend su - and not su for most common tasks, right?
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12:01<bremner>yes
12:02<bremner>mixing environments is somewhat hazardous, since most attacks on the unpriviledged user transfer to root (path, $HOME, etc.
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12:04<annadane>thank you
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12:17<guandri>cacatoes and other: wich folder do I have to save to make a full system save when my system is mounted?
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12:35<andrea10>hi at all, how can I connect to a VM in a server with only the public ip?
12:36<simonpatapon>i VPN in, and use local IP
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12:41<andrea10>@simonpatapon how can I nat inside vm with the router?
12:41<blast007>!things to backup
12:41<dpkg>Some things you should back up include: /etc /home /root /usr/local /usr/src /opt /srv. Tailor to your own purposes. If you think you don't need /var, make sure you don't forget /var/lib/dpkg /var/backups /var/lib/apt* /var/lib/mysql /var/mail /var/www /var/cache/debconf /var/spool/cron ...
12:42<blast007>guandri: ^
12:42<simonpatapon>in my setup, VM gets IP from reserved DHCP
12:42<andrea10>ok
12:42<simonpatapon>then i only have to NAT to these specifics IP
12:42<simonpatapon>qemu rocks
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12:43<andrea10>ok I've the same configuration, but how can I connect to Vms out of my home?
12:43<blast007>can you SSH into the VMs from the server?
12:43<andrea10>yes
12:44<blast007>then you could tunnel through the host server to get to the VMs
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12:45<andrea10>ok, how?
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12:46<simonpatapon>NAT the server, ssh to server, ssh in VM?
12:46<andrea10>ok understand
12:46<simonpatapon>i'd VPN LAN, more secure
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12:47<andrea10>but I want to connect directly to the VM without pass through the server
12:48<blast007>why?
12:48<simonpatapon>cant you NAT VM ip directly then?
12:48<andrea10>I need this for a project
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12:49<blast007>I mean, why specifically don't you want to log in through the server?
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12:50<blast007>are you just not wanting the users that access the VMs to have an account on the server itself?
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12:50<andrea10>because I want create LAMP VMs
12:50<andrea10>or something like that
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12:51<simonpatapon>can you NAT http and ssh VM ip directly then?
12:51<blast007>doesn't really answer my question, but whatevs :) just port forward to the VMs
12:51<andrea10>ok, how?
12:51<simonpatapon>its a router thing
12:51<blast007>that's not a debian question at this point
12:51<blast007>(unless your router runs Debian)
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12:53<andrea10>why It's not a debian question?
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12:54<simonpatapon>Natting your VM is done in your router, what router do you use
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12:55<andrea10>ok
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13:05<guandri>blast007: thank you I am reading :)
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13:08<blast007>andrea10: there's also software like this that manage SSH access to systems: https://gravitational.com/teleport https://github.com/gravitational/teleport
13:09<blast007>guandri: if you have any databases (like MySQL/MariaDB or Postgresql) I also tend to dump the data from those as part of my backup process
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13:29<guandri>blast007 lol no. I am just an end user
13:35<somiaj>could be a virtual network question, libvirt can set up a virtual network for your vms, and then you can nat this virtual network if wanted.
13:35<somiaj>Many of my vms are on a vritual network, so the host ends up being the router.
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13:41<blast007>guandri: hehe, okay, just figured I would mention it in case :)
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14:52<finn0>I'm using Debian 9(stable). When I tried to installed `npm` using command `sudo apt install npm` I got this( https://paste.debian.net/hidden/20f78222/ ) huge unmet dependencies. But, when I tried to install it using command `sudo apt install -t stretch-backport npm` it installed successfully but with huge number of packages from "backport" repository(here:
14:52<finn0>https://paste.debian.net/hidden/5fbe994c/ ). Yes, I can resolve unment dependencies using advance package manager but my question is it safe to install such huge number of packages from backport repository?
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14:53<finn0>For now, I have install `npm` from backport.
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14:56<somiaj>,v npm
14:56<judd>Package: npm on amd64 -- jessie: 1.4.21+ds-2; stretch-backports: 5.8.0+ds6-2~bpo9+1; buster: 5.8.0+ds6-4; sid: 5.8.0+ds6-4
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14:57<somiaj>finn0: safe yes, but not as well tested as as stable packages and they don't get security support.
14:57<somiaj>In general it is best to install the stable version then upgrade to the stretch-backports version (for software needed from backports) to ensure only things you have to install from stretch-backports are installed.
14:57<jhutchins_wk>somiaj: backports get security patches, just not as quickly.
14:57<somiaj>but this is a case where there is no stable version of npm, so you don't have this option.
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14:58<somiaj>jhutchins_wk: it depends on the package. And the security team doesn't support it. It is up to the matinaer to upload a new package if a security bug hits.
14:58<somiaj>so that is why I say no security support.
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15:04<jhutchins_wk>There are a whole lot of people running the backport kernel.
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15:10<somiaj>Sure, it is one of the packages that gets the best security support, though one has to wait until the new kernel makes it to testing.
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15:19<annadane>do i have any options other than pulseaudio/pavucontrol (really, if i could just eliminate pavucontrol by itself...) if i wanted to switch audio sources?
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15:20<annadane>reason being i get really loud buzzing if i open pavucontrol and i've researched this and don't know how to fix it
15:20<annadane>buster may fix it though
15:20<somiaj>pactl I think is a command line tool for this.
15:21<somiaj>https://linux.die.net/man/1/pactl -- pactl should be able to do anything pavucontrol does.
15:21<somiaj>annadane: what desktop do you use?
15:21<annadane>xfce
15:22<somiaj>xfce doesn't have a sound control in its system tools already?
15:22<annadane>err... maybe
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15:23<annadane>i installed it via xfce4, not tasksel
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15:23<somiaj>Most desktops have their own interval vesion of pavucontrol. pavucontrol is just desktop/wm independent, so I suggest it becuse then it doesn't matter what desktop/wm one runs.
15:23<somiaj>check under its system properities/tools, or the sound icon on its pannel, see if pulls up a way you can select which sound card to use.
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15:25<blast007>annadane: you could test with a live DVD image of buster/testing to see if the issue exists there: https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/buster_di_rc1-live/ or https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/weekly-live-builds/
15:25<blast007>(you could also compare with a normal stretch live DVD to make sure the issue still happens there, in case it's some issue with your install)
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15:27<blast007>one problematic part about those live ISOs would be not having firmware or proprietary drivers, which may be necessary if you're using HDMI output on an nVidia/AMD card for audio
15:28<annadane>hm
15:28<annadane>i never even considered it a firmware issue
15:28<annadane>the missing ones in dmesg are atheros and realtek
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15:29<blast007>atheros is almost certainly some wifi (or bluetooth), and the realtek one is likely a wired NIC
15:30<blast007>are your audio sources an onboard sound device and a USB adapter (such as headphones)?
15:30<annadane>yep
15:31<annadane>i'm going to be really mad if that's why, lol. so simple and i should've thought of that
15:31<annadane>i'm already mad for not thinking of that even if that's not the problem
15:31<blast007>I have the same setup at home then, but I use Gnome and some Gnome Shell extension that adds source selection to a dropdown
15:31<blast007>for the firmware I'm thinking of, I think it wouldn't work at all without it
15:31<annadane>yeah, i somewhat doubt it's a missing firmware issue
15:32<annadane>i wonder if a newer kernel would help
15:32<annadane>in any case, buster is real soon, i'm willing to wait
15:32<blast007>iirc, some AMD Radeon need firmware to make their audio output work
15:32<blast007>I may be using a backport kernel at home
15:33<annadane>i'm still frustrated how it only took me until now to even think of firmware or backporting a kernel
15:33<blast007>:)
15:34<blast007>a live DVD ISO written to a flash drive would be a pretty quick thing to test too
15:34<annadane>yep
15:34<annadane>well thanks guys
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15:39<jhutchins_wk>!radeon
15:39<dpkg>Radeon is a brand of graphic processing units by AMD/ATI (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon). The radeon open source display driver is packaged for Debian as xserver-xorg-video-radeon, optionally install libgl1-mesa-dri for 3D acceleration. Also ask me about <radeon firmware>, <radeon audio>. https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo http://x.org/wiki/radeon #radeon on irc.freenode.net. For the proprietary driver, see <fglrx>.
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16:03<finn0>Is there a way to install packages to users home folder when using `nmp -g` command? I don't want to install packages from npm registry to my `/usr/local/lib` folder. Probably, this can be done using 'npmrc' file where does it located when I've installed npm from debian repo?
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16:13<bremner>finn0: in $HOME/.npmrc
16:13<bremner>e.g. prefix="${HOME}/.local/npm"
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16:35<finn0>bremner: Thanks, it works. What would if I've to define this configuration for all users? in /etc/npmrc
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