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---Logopened Tue Jun 11 00:00:19 2019
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00:06<deniz_>hello, i rm -rf'd my /etc/fail2ban
00:07<deniz_>is there any way to regenerate the default conf files
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00:07<annadane>!confmiss
00:07<dpkg>You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>.
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00:08<deniz_>thats helpful thanks
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00:11<deniz_>Jun 11 04:09:52 139 systemd[1]: fail2ban.service: Unit entered failed state. Jun 11 04:09:52 139 systemd[1]: fail2ban.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
00:11<deniz_>:/ what do i do with this
00:11<deniz_>no logs in /var/log/fail2ban.log
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00:23<annadane>i'm sorry, my systemd knowledge is bad, maybe look up how to investigate failed services though
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00:26<annadane>https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd#Diagnosing_a_service
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00:53<scientes>hes gone...
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01:36<overrides>hey guys
01:36<overrides>i need with debain
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01:37<ironhide>Hello Planet Earth
01:37<overrides>hey
01:39<ironhide>Did you see any Decepticons around ?
01:40<overrides>no lol
01:40<overrides>but i need help with debain
01:41<ironhide>Ironhide would be glad to help the humans today
01:41<overrides>i have two nic's and i want to use my vpn connection to forward to my eth1
01:42<overrides>so basically eth0 is my main connection tun0 is my vpn connection and eth1 is my other nic i want to forward tun0 to eth1
01:43<grove>It's not debain but debIAn
01:43<overrides>okay sorry
01:44<ironhide>https://serverfault.com/questions/571801/tunneling-traffic-from-eth0-to-tun0-openvpn-ububtu-12-04
01:44<ironhide>Check this out human
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01:44<ironhide>Ubuntu is debian based i don't expect huge difference
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01:46<overrides>sysctl: "net.ipv4.ip_forwarding" must be of the form name=value
01:46<overrides>sysctl: malformed setting "="
01:46<overrides>sysctl: "1" must be of the form name=valu
01:46<overrides>i get this
01:48<jm_>net.ipv4.ip_forwarding=1
01:48<jm_>without spaces
01:49<overrides>bash: net.ipv4.ip_forwarding=1: command not found
01:49<overrides>i get that
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01:52<jm_>bleh
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02:46<live>newb question. can not load web site with any browser in debian, www.fold3.com all i get is blank screen with mozilla opera chrome, can any one see ? it is just a blank page.
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02:47<live>if i goto google and look at a cached history page i can load it....
02:47<dboles>works here
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02:47<mendelmunkis>i get a result.
02:48<dboles>though i'm on unstable fwiw
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04:42<pombreda>Howdy :) I am struggling a bit on how to get a proper Python 3.6 installed on stretch. I can compile from sources alright... but I was expecting some testing package to be there too. Only 3.7. is there tough
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04:58<jm_>pombreda: you can find python 3.6 packages on the snapshot site, but I douln't use them with stretch
04:58<jm_>wouldn't too
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05:05<supaman>put up a chroot/docker instance and get the python version from some unsupported source, an ubuntu ppa or something
05:06<supaman>that is if your only using that specific version for one specific job that does not require the use of the rest of the system
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05:11<pombreda>jm_, supaman: we are porting https://github.com/nexB/scancode-toolkit to Python 3 and crafting Debian packages (two seperate things). The minimum required version is 3.6 The tested version for now will be 3.6. So I want to run tests with the proper Python version on stretch. Alternatively I could bypass supporting Debian :D
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05:12<pombreda>are you telling me that I cannot run Python 3.6 on stretch?
05:13<pombreda>(or I should not?)
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05:14<supaman>of course you can run it :-)
05:14<supaman>its just not supported (so the "should not" is more appropriate)
05:17<supaman>so if you make a package that requires python 3.6 your creating troubles for your users
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05:30<leo_9OVwvuI>hey. best practice to change the $JAVA_OPTS for tomcat8? i changed the variable in the service file in /etc/init.d/ to accommodate the changes i need, is there a better way?
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05:42<jm_>leo_9OVwvuI: it doesn't support something easier?
05:43<jm_>maybe via /etc/default/tomcat8 ?
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05:59<leo_9OVwvuI>@jm_ you are right
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06:13<pombreda>supaman: so the alternative is troubles or not running the code? ;)
06:14<pombreda>ok, I will go with a Python source compilation then and an altinstall
06:14<pombreda>the Ubuntu deadsnakes ppa is not working with stretch
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06:34<namoamitabuddha>How can I easily pass things like -match=native for building from source code from apt-source?
06:36<jm_>as in CFLAGS?
06:37<namoamitabuddha>Yeah
06:38<namoamitabuddha>Ah, dpkg-buildflags
06:38<jm_>yeah was going to say man dpkg-buildflags lists several ways
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06:41<namoamitabuddha>Are they usually overriden by maintainers?
06:43<jm_>not sure, but I suppose a search on codesearch site would find them
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06:58<pombreda>Why is Python 3.6 entirely skipped?
07:00<bremner>at a guess, there's only one version of python3 supported in each release
07:00<pombreda>bremner: thanks, but no. There is a 3.5 and a 43.7 in the pool. Let me ask on #debian-python
07:01<bremner>*shrug*. I don't think the pool means what you think it does.
07:01<bremner>or to be more precise, that does not contradict my statement.
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07:03<pombreda>s/43.7/3.7 ;)
07:04<Moft>Cannot connect to the Docker daemon at unix:///var/run/docker.sock Debian
07:04<pombreda>3.5 is in stretch and 3.6 has been skipped in buster in favor of 3.7
07:04<pombreda>bremner: I get your point now :)
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07:05<Moft>somebody can help me on this Cannot connect to the Docker daemon at unix:///var/run/docker.sock Debian
07:06<jm_>Moft: are you using debian testing/unstable?
07:07<Moft>no
07:07<jm_>so where did you get docker from?
07:08<Moft>the problem happen cuz a power outage
07:08<Moft>from the official page
07:09<jm_>OK in that case I think this is the place to ask #docker on chat.freenode.net
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07:11<jm_>no worries
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09:23<Abdullah>How can we run iOS emulators in linux?
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09:47<dithmer>Abdullah: I think there are just a few very experimental projects. Nothing stable yet.
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12:20<finn0>I want run `redshift` after each time I reboot my PC so, I add this "@reboot /usr/bin/redshift -l 40.73:-73:93" in my root user's crontab by typing command 'sudo crontab -e'. I've tried every solution from stackexchange but none of them working. What's wrong with syntax?
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12:35<GyrosGeier>finn0, nothing
12:35<GyrosGeier>but cron doesn't run as part of your X11 session, so it can't access the display
12:35<GyrosGeier>(also, it is a bad idea to log in as root)
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12:36<GyrosGeier>if you have a really traditional X11 setup with a window manager, the session is going to be controlled by the Xsession script
12:37<GyrosGeier>which defers to the user ~/.Xsession if it exists and chooses a default WM if not
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12:39<GyrosGeier>so if you have an user Xsession, add redshift there, with an & so it runs in the background
12:39<finn0>GyroGeier: cron should run after systemd. Then, why doesn't it start redshift? Does redshift only works when I'm using WM? not with console.
12:39<GyrosGeier>yes
12:40<GyrosGeier>redshift tells the X server to change color mapping in the GPU
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12:41<GyrosGeier>so cron starts redshift, which finds that it cannot talk to the X server, gives an error message to stderr and exits
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12:44<Negrito-Timido>hi
12:44<finn0>GyrosGeier: Is there any package(similar to redshift) which also works with console? Probably xcalib will also not works.
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12:47<GyrosGeier>AFAIK no
12:47<GyrosGeier>because the console has no color correction API
12:47<finn0>GyrosGeier: My laptop display is not that good and it's always hurts my eyes. So, I need a package which will also woks on console because a significant amount time I use console.
12:47<GyrosGeier>I use X with ratpoison as WM, and an xterm across the entire display
12:48<mendelmunkis>I use clight but its not packaged for debian.
12:48<GyrosGeier>looks just like a console, but uses accelerated rendering and supports color correction
12:48<GyrosGeier>also works with multiple monitors
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12:55<finn0>Is there a way to find which Window Manager I'm using? I've tried `wmctrl -m` command output is GNOME-shell but GNOME is not a WM.
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12:58<sqrt{not}>finn0: There is this: gnome-shell-extension-redshift <- a package
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13:05<finn0>sqrt{not}: I had installed gnome-shell-extension-reshift but it doesn't worked means it automatically turn off. I'll try once again.
13:08<finn0>How do some people able hide there IP when leave and join IRC? Mine is clearly visible. More interestingly they have "user.oftc.net" or something like that.
13:09<mendelmunkis>They are probably using oftc's web client.
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13:10<thsnr>finn0: https://www.oftc.net/UserCloaks/
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13:10<mojikun>is irc.debian.org this server?
13:12<finn0>mojikun: yep, irc.debian.org is alias for irc.oftc.net
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13:15<jhutchins_wk>finn0: I think you're making too fine a distinction when you say gnome is not a WM. It's not JUST a WM.
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13:18<finn0>jhutchins_wk: "It's not just a WM" I didn't get it. could clarify it?
13:19<finn0>jhutchins: How can I check in which WM I'm using?
13:20<finn0>thsnr: thanks
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13:32<jhutchins_wk>finn0: You're using gnome.
13:32<finn0>jhutchins_wk: Yep.
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13:35<finn0>I've submitted my battery to service centre for replacement. And I'm running my laptop on power supply because service centre might take a while in replacement and I don't have any spare battery. Is it good idea to run laptop on power supply?
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14:04<jhutchins_wk>finn0: Doesn't hurt anything.
14:05<jhutchins_wk>Some won't boot if there's no battery, they essentially run off the battery full time so there's no outage if they loose line power.
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14:13<finn0>jhutchins_wk: what happens to extra power(means charges which is not consumed by laptop)?
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14:19<jhutchins_wk>Doesn't really work that way..
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14:49<finn0>jhutchins_wk: I want to say power adapter always supply same amount of charges to PC. If laptop don't have battery, extra must have to go somewhere like charge the capacitors. Mobile phone charger have support smart charging(withdraw only needed amount of charge).
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15:04<sqrt{not}>finn0: consider difference between volts vs. amperes. also consider what happens if you disconnect the power adapter's cable at the computer, while the adapter is still energized
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17:11<Volley>hrmm ... the /etc/network/if-up.d | if-down.d | ... folders are not really suitable for scripts supposed to run on wlan0 connect / disconnect, are they? ( wpa_supplicant , no network-manager )
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17:42<guandri>I want to save all my system. I tried to save /etc /home /root /usr/local /usr/src /opt /srv and /var from the mounter filesystem. The destination files backup has more size thanm the original datas. I think I have to exclude some files. wich?
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18:29<somiaj>guandri: a lot really depends what you do on your system.
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18:30<somiaj>but maybe you have links hidding in there, causing you to get things you didn't want, what command are you using to backup that info.
18:30<somiaj>But for instance, I personally don't have any source in /usr/src, and anything I install in /usr/local from source, I can reinstall from source if needed (as opposed to backing it up).
18:31<somiaj>and as for /var, you may want to be more selective and only backup the pieces of /var you actually need. Since you aren't backing up all of /, you won't need any of the apt/dpkg stuff in /var, since you would have to reinstall from scratch anyways. Logs can be useful, but maybe you don't need them backedup.
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18:36<sarnold>and /var is liable to have some huge sparse files; be sure you're backing them up using a tool that will create holes when needed
18:37<somiaj>and often times people prefer a dump of the database as the backup vs the actually binary database file.
18:37<sarnold>good point
18:37<somiaj>Though a lot depends on what you are backing up, why, and how you plan to recover from your backups.
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