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#debian IRC Logs for 2019-06-12

---Logopened Wed Jun 12 00:00:21 2019
00:04-!-dboehmer__ [~quassel@pD9EA7304.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
00:04-!-dboehmer__ is "Daniel B\xF6hmer,,," on #debian
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00:18-!-finn0 is "finn0" on #debian
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00:35-!-jm_ is "." on #debian
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00:39-!-semeion is "semeion" on #bitlbee
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00:40-!-pavlushka is "Pavel Sayekat" on #debian #oftc
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00:43-!-BoneTone is "Join #Brewmaster to ask questions of probrewer." on #publiclab #debian #qemu @#Brewmaster
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00:47-!-kaph is "kaph" on #debian
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00:52-!-Gromit is "Jan-Hendrik Palic" on #debian
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00:56-!-adnidor is "Yannik" on #debian
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00:58-!-sidmo__ is "sidmo" on #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian-kde #debian
01:00-!-SkarmoutsosV [~Skarmouts@kostpol.ath.forthnet.gr] has joined #debian
01:00-!-SkarmoutsosV is "Vangelis Skarmoutsos" on #debian-i18n #debian-next #debian
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01:10-!-devil_ is "realname" on #debian
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01:11-!-preview is "preview" on #debian
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01:31-!-syzik is "Syzik" on #kvm #C #virt #debian
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01:42-!-zamuro [~Samantha@210.red-2-138-46.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
01:42-!-zamuro is "Romanes eunt domus" on #debian #debian-es #debian-ve
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01:49-!-RaphGro is "Raphael Groner" on #debian
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02:04-!-war is "war_" on #debian #debian-next
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02:09-!-dust is "dust" on #debian-games #debian #debian-next #debian-science #linux-rt
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02:25-!-devil_ is "realname" on #debian
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02:32-!-bolt is "-" on #virt #debian-next #debian #sd #oftc #qemu #suckless
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02:33-!-ao2 is "ao2" on #vcs-home #debian #cell
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02:45-!-mspe is "realname" on #debian #qemu
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02:45-!-imega is "coma" on #debian #ceph
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02:47-!-zamuro is "Romanes eunt domus" on #debian #debian-es #debian-ve
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02:59-!-chele is "chele" on #debian-next #debian
03:00-!-mode/#debian [+l 453] by debhelper
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03:01-!-zamuro is "Romanes eunt domus" on #debian #debian-es #debian-ve
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03:10-!-bodiccea is "bodiccea" on #kernelnewbies #debian #debian-next #oftc
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03:16-!-agners is "Stefan Agner" on #debian #llvmlinux
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03:22-!-TheRuralJuror is "AP,,," on #debian
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03:36-!-drzacek is "realname" on @#debian-mentor #packaging #linux-rt #debian-next #debian
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03:39-!-Javi is "Javier" on #debian #debian-es
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03:46-!-imega is "coma" on #debian #ceph
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03:53-!-}ls{ is "nobody" on #debian-nginx #debian-lan #debian-kde #debian-django #debian
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03:54-!-razva is "realname" on #debian
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04:01-!-cHawk is "realname" on #debian-offtopic #debian-next #openttd #debian
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04:14-!-vicamo is "You-Sheng Yang" on #debian-kde #debian-dkms #debian-desktop #debian-bluetooth #debian-apt #debian
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04:17-!-Edhil is "One of the last" on #debian
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05:16-!-miklcct is "Michael Tsang" on #debian
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05:32<simon_>test
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06:01-!-aguslr is "Agus" on #debian
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06:02-!-czesmir is "Stefan" on #debian
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06:44-!-alec is "realname" on #debian
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06:53-!-CeBe is "Carsten Brandt" on #debian
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07:19-!-javi_ is "Javier" on #debian #debian-es
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09:11<hassan>parrot issues here?
09:11<grove>!parrot
09:11<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrotsec on Freenode, the community pages https://docs.parrotsec.org/community, or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
09:12<hassan>okay then i can ask i guess
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09:13<hassan>i cant use pip3
09:13<grove>Qouting the factoid: "it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian"
09:13<grove>s/ou/uo/
09:14<hassan>my question is in depian too
09:14<hassan>and there is no #parrotsec in here
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09:15<grove>As the factoid said: it's on Freenode
09:15<hassan>just tell my where to go :(
09:15<grove>The factoid did!
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12:41<jorgesumle>Where can I find Debian DVDs for Buster which every package?
12:41<jorgesumle>I meant testing
12:43<ach>can't as i know
12:43<ach>you can download every packege to your hd
12:47<sqrt{not}>jorge: ach is wrong, see this link: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/
12:49<RJD1>is the square root of 'not' a comical artifact of a strange lang? what is the value?
12:49<sqrt{not}>It is an actual thing in quantum computing, which I hope to understand better eventually.
12:50<RJD1>I don't think I even *could* begin to understand what it means to be the square root of a logic gate
12:50<DusXMT>RJD1: Then it's better to think of it as a function
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12:51<RJD1>sqrt(!())?
12:52<sqrt{not}>sqrt(not(x)) != not(sqrt(x))
12:53<DusXMT>But how do we define not() in a quantum setting?
12:53<sqrt{not}>(perhaps confusing to use "!" there as though it has any fixed meaning?)
12:53<DusXMT>(although this is probably a discussion for #debian-offtopic)
12:54<RJD1>still confused but interested.... will look into it more myself to stop detracting from -- yeah you beat me to offtopic haha
12:54<DusXMT>sqrt{not}: in programming, ! is often negation
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12:54<RJD1>! $variable == not($variable)
12:54<sqrt{not}>yes, but what is negation the same as "not" ??
12:54<RJD1>"yes"
12:54<RJD1>debending on bitwise or not
12:54<RJD1>*depending
12:54<DusXMT>sqrt{not}: I don't know how "not" is defined in quantum computing, but in binary, yes
12:56<sqrt{not}>but other things than the ones-complement of something are "!=" that something
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13:15<jorgesumle>sqrt{not}: https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/installation.html#sect.install-cd says it requires 12 DVD-ROMs
13:15<jorgesumle>But on the weekly-builds website I can only see 3
13:15<RJD1>daaaaaaamn!
13:16<jorgesumle>Any idea where are the other ones?
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13:17<jorgesumle>For this version of Debian (testing) how can I know the number of DVDs to install all the packages?
13:17<jorgesumle>That is my question
13:18<sqrt{not}>The other ones are here : https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/jigdo-dvd/
13:18<sqrt{not}>(substitute your archtechture, if not amd64)
13:18<jorgesumle>Thanks
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13:18<jorgesumle>That was the missing part I was looking for
13:19<sqrt{not}>It is very unlikely you will actually want to install ALL the packages
13:19<sarnold>wow, I never expected these to actually *exist*
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13:26<sqrt{not}>jorgesumle: it might be helpful to browse this info, to see what you really need to download/burn: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/list-dvd/
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13:41<EmleyMoor>Wanted: TailSense for Linux
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13:51<sqrt{not}>jorgesumle: note also, all the links above are only the official "free software" buster DVDs. There is a separate web-page hierarchy of "non-free" downloads, containing non-free firmware, etc.....
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14:26<finn0>I created a ~/.Xsession file with content as follows "/usr/bin/redshift -l 40.73:-73.93". Now I login to as
14:26<finn0>a user it shows me blank screen. Is there something wrong with syntax?
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14:51<finn0>Commenting out that line("# redshift -l 40.73:-73.93") is not working. Even putting a empty ~/.Xsession is working. Why is so?
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14:53<somiaj>it should be .xsession (not .Xsession)
14:53<dboles>according to https://wiki.debian.org/Xsession a capital is ok
14:53<somiaj>also when you write an .xsession you should also tell it what de/wm you want to use
14:53<dboles>yeah
14:53<somiaj>which is probably what is going on, finn0 needs to specificy which app to run besides redshift
14:54<dboles>See the example at that link: it ends with exec fvwm
14:54<somiaj>either that or use the de startup scripts to run the redshift intead of .xsession
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14:54<dboles>That would be best. If you use .xsession, you have to handle ALL the session startup yourself, not just starting extra processes
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15:04<finn0>Since, I've already run a xsession for user so, to login I need to kill that tty. How to kill a tty session?
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15:05<finn0>dboles: thanks, first I need to kill that tty session.
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15:07<sarnold>what do you mean?
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15:10<guandri>hi
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15:11<guandri>I want to save all my computer with backintime. I have save the folders /etc /home /root /usr/local /usr/src /opt /srv and /var. It takes more space than what they deserved. I must have saved too much files. wich files do I have to ignore?
15:12<dboles>i feel like someone asked this yesterday... and was pointed at being careful about sparse files in particular
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15:13<guandri>it was me :)
15:13<blast007>!what to backup
15:13<dpkg>Some things you should back up include: /etc /home /root /usr/local /usr/src /opt /srv. Tailor to your own purposes. If you think you don't need /var, make sure you don't forget /var/lib/dpkg /var/backups /var/lib/apt* /var/lib/mysql /var/mail /var/www /var/cache/debconf /var/spool/cron ...
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15:14<guandri>blast007: thank you :) I already got the notification lol
15:14<guandri>yesterday
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15:15<guandri>it was in response of what I finally made the backup and found too much space taken
15:16<dboles>can't you run some disk usage analyser e.g. Baobab and see where the space is being used?
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15:46<josh-debian-test>If you discover an application doesn't run because it's missing a file, say a config file stored in the home directory, what would be the quickest way to force apt to collect the package? Just apt reinstall ?
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15:47<bremner>josh-debian-test: apt should never modify files in the users home
15:47<Maulkin>Depends what the package is, and what the file it's missing is.
15:47<Maulkin>Have you got some more details?
15:47<josh-debian-test>bremner: Oh, so the application failed to make it itself
15:47<bremner>could be
15:48<josh-debian-test>Actually, it was user error
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17:22<guandri>dboles: good idea I will do it
17:22<guandri>and tell you more then
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17:35<annadane>user__, hi. do you have a debian question?
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17:52<maxrazer>Does anyone know why I'm getting these domino looking characters? Do I need to install some fonts?
17:53<annadane>maxrazer, in irc specifically or...?
17:54<maxrazer>annadane, I see it in the i3 bar at the top for website titles. And, I know I've seen it somewhere else too.
17:54<maxrazer>Oh, I saw it in a program too.
17:54<maxrazer>One of the menues had domonie characters instead of the correct characters. I've seen it in a few places on my system.
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18:03<guandri> dboles yes I used baobab and then I see the cowq2 image are the problem. I need to sparse file
18:06<maxrazer>annadane, I just found the command fc-match -a which looks like it lists installed fonts.
18:08<guandri>maxrazer I am going to look for that in the gui
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18:18<guandri>how to handle sparse files in the backintime GUI? I am on multiboot. I have to reboot to try.
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18:25<sarnold>guandri: scroll to the very bottom of https://backintime.readthedocs.io/en/latest/settings.html
18:25<sarnold>guandri: try adding --sparse to the "paste additional options to rsync" field
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18:35<maxrazer>I'm also getting domino characters on the "channels" and "features" tabs of the Streamtuner2 program.
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18:35<maxrazer>On the other two tabs are special characters/symbols that display correctly that look like a speaker and a check box.
18:36<maxrazer>So, I think I need to better understand fonts on linux and how they work and maybe I broke them installing some package or library.
18:36<sarnold>most likely the font you're using don't support the requested glyphs
18:36<maxrazer>I did install some libraries to get a binary I downloaded that was not a package. I'm not sure if that had anything to do with it.
18:37<guandri>sarnold: the glyphs?
18:37<sarnold>some programs will fall back through other fonts to try to find glyphs. the results can be pretty unbalanced sometimes, but a lot of popular fonts are pretty small
18:37<maxrazer>Do I install more fonts? Or Glyphs?
18:37<sarnold>guandri: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyph
18:37<sarnold>maxrazer: more fonts, or configure your software to use the fonts you've already got
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18:38<maxrazer>sarnold, Would that have to be done in-program? I suspect most programs don't have that option to select other fonts to use.
18:39<maxrazer>How would I install more fonts? Perhaps there are some common packages being used out there. I also hit this with some web site titles having urecognized fonts.
18:39<guandri>thank you. I have to sleep. can we see that tomorrow?
18:40<guandri>good bye
18:40<sarnold>bye guandri
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18:49<sarnold>maxrazer: debian's got a huge number of fonts packaged.. on my ubuntu, 1152 packages from apt-cache search font :) some of course are packages to *create* fonts, some to *use* fonts, etc etc
18:50<sarnold>maxrazer: urxvt for example lets you do -fn to give a font list; I couldn't tell from the i3 manapge if it supports exactly one font in the titlebars, or if you could give a few fonts..
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18:51<somiaj>I know xterm now supports xft fonts, assume the same for urxvt, and you can even just drop fonts in $HOME/.fonts that are ttf and use them with xft. Though for a terminal you want monospace fonts.
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18:54<annadane>eww xterm
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18:57<somiaj>what is wrong with xterm, it works great
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19:47<finn0>There is a `graph` program in linux use for drawing graph from command. In which package this programm contains?
19:49<finn0>I tried to search die.net linux man page but it doesn't have `graph` man page. here is a link for reference: https://linux.die.net/man/1/plot
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19:53<sarnold>finn0: plotutils
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19:55<finn0>sarnold: Thanks.
20:00<finn0>I'm using weechat irc client. When I'm writing very long message in weechat it only shift towards right and it make harder to edit changes. Is possible to wite multi-line message in buffer? same as messaging application. Is it wrong place ask this question?
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20:01<finn0>I tried to shift+enter for new line character but it sends the message.
20:02<sarnold>I'm sure there's weechat users here, but a weechat channel may be more appropriate
20:02<sarnold>I can't recall seeing any screenshots with multiple-line input boxes though
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20:03<jmcnaught>finn0: I don't use weechat but I know that it can be extended with scripts, so I suggest looking for a script that does multiline input.
20:04<finn0>sarnold: okay, I'll ask this question on weechat.
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20:05<finn0>Does this channel have support matrix IRC bridge? Or, something similar like that so, I can read messages when I'm not online.
20:06<finn0>jmcnaught: which client you're using?
20:07<jmcnaught>finn0: I use irssi.
20:07<finn0>jmcnaught: which IRC client is mostly use?
20:09<finn0>Prior to Weechat I was using Hexchat which is not good Weechat and Hexchat doesn't have command line interface so I can use it from console.
20:09<jmcnaught>finn0: I don't know, probably Hexchat. You can look up statistics for packages at https://popcon.debian.org/ if you're curious.
20:09<ach>for offline read you could use a znc
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20:13<ach>but it's not usefull if you have no autodeal
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20:13<finn0>ach: but znc should be run on server. Isn't there other solution?
20:14<sarnold>note that 'server' might just be a $3.50/month AWS instance or a rasbpi or something similar
20:15<ach>pay irccloud if it name not changed
20:16<ach>or what possibly kiwiirc offers?
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20:53<finn0>sarnold, ach: Okay, thanks.
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21:05<mojikun>hey
21:05<mojikun>does debian sid slow down/freeze before a debian major release?
21:05<mojikun>or does testing only freeze?
21:05<sqrt{not}>!irclog
21:05<dpkg>methinks irclog is #debian on <freenode> is logged at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23debian/ , #debian on <OFTC> is logged at http://irclogs.thegrebs.com/debian/
21:05<maxrazer>mojikun, Not at all.
21:05<sqrt{not}>finn0: ^^^^^^^ logs of this channel
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21:06<mojikun>maxrazer, oh so sid is continously rolling , and the testing freezes only in preperation to be the next stable
21:06<mojikun>do i get this right?
21:06<finn0>!irclog
21:06<dpkg>irclog is probably #debian on <freenode> is logged at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23debian/ , #debian on <OFTC> is logged at http://irclogs.thegrebs.com/debian/
21:06<bremner>mojikun: in practice sid does slow down
21:06<maxrazer>mojikun, I'm using buster/testing right now though. I was running sid. It had a problem with the chromium and and I thought I'd switch back to testing.
21:06<mojikun>bremner, why is that?
21:07<bremner>mojikun: because any last minute fixes are much easier if they go through sid
21:07<mojikun>oh i see
21:07<bremner>mojikun: the release team asks developers not to upload versions not intended for buster to sid during the freeze
21:08<bremner>most people follow that request
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21:08<mojikun>so debian cannot be a real rolling release distro in any way
21:08<maxrazer>Ok, well I didn't know about that freeze effecting sid. But it is probably very short time and non-issue.
21:09<maxrazer>mojikun, Testing or sid should work as rolling fairly well. There will be packages sometimes that don't work for a short time probably. The alternative is probably Arch.
21:09<maxrazer>I found chromium on Sid had a problem with d-bus recently and would crash whenever opening xternal links.
21:09<mojikun>maxrazer, how long does that slowdown period on sid last approximately?
21:09<bremner>mojikun: during the freeze you can also use experimental
21:09<bremner>this is more a topic for #debian-next, I guess
21:09<mojikun>i will use experimental permanently
21:10<maxrazer>mojikun, I imagine the same the testing freeze if it is based on that.
21:10<maxrazer>I don't know how long the testing freeze lasts.
21:10<finn0>sqrt{not}, dpkg: thanks, that's much better solution than ZNC.
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21:10<maxrazer>mojikun, If you are considering distros then I think debian testing or unstable would work.
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21:47<maxrazer>mojikun, Debian Buster Release Candidate 1 would probably work well for you to get started: https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/buster_di_rc1/amd64/iso-cd/debian-buster-DI-rc1-amd64-netinst.iso
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22:14<finn0>Few minutes ago, I've changed my locale using `sudo dpkg-reconfig locale` command to en_US.utf8 and rebooted my PC. After that I cannot open gnome-terminal(means for first 20 sec mouse pointer change to processing symbol(rotating circle after nothing happens)) so, check run `locale` which show en_US.utf8 for all entry except for "LANGUAGE". Why does changing locale broke gnome-terminal? I had a
22:14<finn0>same issue few months ago which I resolved by set values in some file in some(forgot, probably found on internet if I search) /etc directory which set locale value at the time when systemd starts. And why didn't `dpkg-reconfig` worked ?
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22:15<finn0>Whereas, console is working fine.
22:16<ach>system has it own and every user who was be told has it own
22:18<ach>as you could tell every user an other local
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22:19<ach>but us easiest is use C.UTF-8 for all
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22:21<somiaj>finn0: dpkg-reconfigure is only going to reconfigure system setups. If you have the various enviorment variables set for your user, that won't change users settings.
22:22<somiaj>Often times it is suggested to set the system to none, to make it easier for users to set their own.
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22:27<finn0>ach: what's the difference between en_US.utf8 vs C.utf8? When I was configuring both options were present why choose one over another? I'd seen developers prefer use to C.utf-8 locale in their script? why does so? What does easiest mean in your last message?
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22:28<sarnold>C sorts A-Z before a-z
22:29<sarnold>en_US sorts AaBbCcDd..Zz. which is sometimes hilarious when people write regexes for [A-Z] and it misses z
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22:32<finn0>somiaj: Couple of days ago, I'd cleaned installed Debian. And as far I remember I haven't set any environment variable. Is there any enivironment variable set by Debian while installation (related to locale)?
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22:36<somiaj>Did you clean your $HOME? various session tools, and bashrc files can have this set.
22:38<finn0>somiaj: there is only variable whose value isn't changed (which $LANGUAGE). I have checked all(in profile, bashrc etc) users/system specific file(in /etc) but didn't find this env variable.
22:39<somiaj>you can run 'locale' as your user to see what the current settings are.
22:39<finn0>somiaj: No I haven't clean my $HOME.
22:40<somiaj>then you most likely have all your old user config files around. You may find creating a new user and running things helpful to see if something is system vs user setting.
22:40<somiaj>i.e. test stuff on your new user.
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22:46<ach>their is no common between them if you don't have probably a locale the system will die cause it have neither the option to have an order of sign and the $path lost kills the possibilty to run a program load it to kernel space
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23:44<finn0>somiaj: Fixed, one env variable was missiong GDM_LANG
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