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02:21<andibmu>3~
02:22<usr1168033988749>I've got a bit of a problem where I'm not sure, if it's my fault or a general problem. I'm trying to get IPv6 on my machine working. I've done every thing as I've done it with the other systems bit I only get a link local. The only real difference between these systems that I'm aware of and might be related to the issue is, that the working system have been installed with stretch and then
02:22<usr1168033988749>upgraded to buster while the not working system has been installed with jessie then upgraded to stretch and then to buster.
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02:24<dark>hi
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02:26<usr1168033988749>is there any way i can nail down the problem?
02:28<jm_>usr1168033988749: upgrades shouldn't be the reason
02:32<usr1168033988749>ok
02:32<usr1168033988749>any other guess what could cause the differences?
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02:42<jm_>how do you get the ip?
02:44<usr1168033988749>DHCP
02:44<jm_>also for v6?
02:44<usr1168033988749>yes
02:49<jm_>hmm I'd use a packet sniffer to see what is going on
02:50<usr1168033988749>is there a sniffer with cli? got currently only ssh access
02:51<jm_>you can use tcpdump s 0 -w /path/to/file to dump it there and then load it in wireshark elsewhere, tcpdump can also show packet info on tty, then there's tshark
02:51<jm_>tcpdump -s 0 -w ...
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02:52<usr1168033988749>thanks.. I'll try
02:53<jm_>I've always statically configured IPv6 stuff, so I have no experience with DHCP in that area
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03:54<usr1168033988749>I've done the sniff.. to me it looks like my router doesn't offer an IPv6...
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03:56<jm_>but it did in previous cases?
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03:58<usr1168033988749>not sure...
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04:11<twb>"apt-cache policy intel-microcode" shows a slightly weird case -- a stable version, a backports version, AND a security version
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04:11<twb>Right now security is winning, but I want to be explicit.
04:12<twb>This works for backports: apt-get install --dry-run intel-microcode/stretch-backports
04:12<twb>This DOES NOT work for security: apt-get install --dry-run intel-microcode/stretch/updates
04:12<twb>What am I doing wrong?
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04:19<jm_>twb: I think both stable in stretch/updates are covered by "/stable"
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04:20<twb>jm_: ah OK, so I can't distinguish them without resorting to =
04:21<twb>My intent is basically that when I run this script in a year, maybe after upgrading to buster, it should crash instead of silently doing the (maybe wrong) thing
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08:58<finn0>I've installed icedtea-netx to run `jnlp` file but, getting this error when run javaws command from command line "java.securit
08:58<finn0> │y.AccessControlException: access denied ("java.io.FilePermission" "/usr/bin/xprop" "execute")" (full output: https://share.riseup.net/#XrH
08:58<finn0> │X8L1uKTn0_E_Q2f-BeA). Why does it get an access denied error since I've installed it from official repo? [ `javaws --version`: icedtea-web
08:58<finn0> │ 1.6.2 (1.6.2-3.1+deb9u1) ]. Is it a bug in package? [there is a bug report on https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=859630 ]yyes
08:58<finn0>sorry for mess. I'm re-typing my message.
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09:04<finn0>I've installed icedtea-netx to run `jnlp` file and getting this error when run javaws command "java.security.AccessControlException: access denied ("java.io.FilePermission" "/usr/bin/xprop" "execute")" (full output: https://share.riseup.net/#XrHX8L1uKTn0_E_Q2f-BeA). [ `javaws --version`: icedtea-web 1.6.2 (1.6.2-3.1+deb9u1) ]. Is it a bug in package? [there is a bug report on
09:04<finn0>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=859630 ] Or, Am I missing something?
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10:13<somiaj>,v icedtea-netx
10:13<judd>Package: icedtea-netx on amd64 -- jessie: 1.5.3-1; stretch: 1.6.2-3.1+deb9u1; buster: 1.7.2-2; sid: 1.7.2-2
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10:15<petn-randall>finn0: What program are you trying to run?
10:16<somiaj>I do know there was some issue with icedtea and it was removed, but I think that was the plugin, so unsrue what the issue is here.
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10:16<GyrosGeier>java web services can't run arbitrary commands by default
10:16<petn-randall>Oh, that too.
10:17<GyrosGeier>basically, the web service tries to run xprop
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12:51<finn0>petn-randall: I'm trying to run a jnlp file using icedtea-netx. Because beyond Java 8 Oracle has dicontinued support for JavaWS.
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13:17<petn-randall>finn0: I guess you'll need the latest version of javaws then.
13:18<finn0>Here is the file(http://www.topcoder.com/contest/arena/ContestAppletProd.jnlp) which I want to run. Have anyone better solution for JavaWS application?
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13:31<finn0>petn-randall: I don't get it, could you rephrase you sentence? command javaws is a script file which trigger icedtea to run an application. What do I have to update? I can't use Java higher that 8 and there is no update for IcedTea from stable repo. And problem seems like with IcedTea package I found a bug report https://icedtea.classpath.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3502 . [ icedtea --version:
13:31<finn0>icedtea-web 1.6.2 (1.6.2-3.1+deb9u1) ].
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13:52<finn0>GyrosGeier: As you said "JavaWS can't run arbitary command by default". Then, do I have to configure something?. Installing Oracle-java8 and running javaws working fine that's what I was doing a year ago.
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14:10<sqrt{not}>finn0: what do you get if you run `which javaws` ?
14:11<finn0>sqrt{not}: /usr/bin/javaws
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14:14<sqrt{not}>finn0: and what do you get from `ls -l /usr/bin/javaws` ?
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14:17<petn-randall>finn0: I would assume that the java program hasn't been fixed to work with current java then. So you'll need to use the same java binary you used a year ago when it worked.
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14:22<sqrt{not}>The reason I ask to see the ls output, is that icedtea-netx installs to somplace like /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/bin/javaws and then does bash-completions, or maybe symlinks, to send /usr/bin/javaws .. and I want to see if that is what happens for you, or if you have some older javaws ?
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14:31<finn0>sqrt{not}: /usr/bin/javaws -> /etc/alternatives/javaws -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/javaws . Yes, you're right /usr/bin/javaws is a symbolic linkof /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/javaws
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14:40<sqrt{not}>finn0: OK, looks like the matching version then.
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14:41<finn0>petn-randall: A year ago I was using Oracle java8 which is at end of its life and since, it is not on Debian official repo so, I don't want to break my system once again. I'll try to stick with OpenJDK. And I'm using java-8-openjdk-amd64 which is same as Oracle java8 except some components are missing like JavaWS etc because they ate close source.
14:41<finn0>*are
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14:43<finn0>sqrt{not}: Isn't look like a bug in Icedtea? At many places this bug have been reported.
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14:58<sqrt{not}>finn0: looking at this from a different angle: are you running the javaws on a local .jnlp file, or on a http URL somewhere ?
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15:00<finn0>sqrt{not}: local file (her is copy of file http://www.topcoder.com/contest/arena/ContestAppletProd.jnlp )
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15:04<sqrt{not}>finn0: can you try running it off the http[s] file instead of the local copy ?
15:04<sqrt{not}>I mean , off the web copy, not the local copy ?
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15:12<GyrosGeier>finn0, my expectation would be that there is some security setup you have to do to allow this
15:12<GyrosGeier>the same way Oracle Java disallows non-https URLs for javaws unless you create an exception
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15:40<mojikun>if i set grub_timeout=0, and my new kernel doesn't boot, i have no way to select the old kernel at boot? (like when pressing shift on bootup)
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15:44<somiaj>!cross post
15:44<dpkg>Posting the same question in several places at the same time (IRC channels, news groups, mailing lists, forums) is impolite; your time is NOT more valuable than everyone else's. Your question might be answered elsewhere, meanwhile we are wasting our time doing research for a problem you've already solved. Cross-posting can also make you look like a spammer and get you k:lined. See also <multiple ask> <hurry>.
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17:27<Gabriel_7>Anyone has any pointer/explanation of system-udev how TAG+="uaccess" is supposed to work?
17:29<Gabriel_7>It's calling some systemd 'builtin' (udev-builtin-uaccess.c) which is supposed to set the suitable ACL.
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18:31<petn-randall>mojikun: You can press shift to trigger the menu anyway.
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18:45<finn0>sqrt{not}: This time I tried web copy and run application directly rather than running in sandbox. And it worked and same is also true for local copy.
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20:58<theinevtiable>hello guys, i wanted to go to the Debian forums for help but apparently I'm not smarter than a bot and can't get past the captcha. hopefully someone on here is kind enough to help point me in the right direction to fix an issue with upgrade the linux image package
20:59<annadane>for sure, just ask your question
21:00<theinevtiable>basis of the issue is - whenever i try to run apt-get upgrade i get the following error:
21:00<theinevtiable> linux-image-4.9.0-9-amd64 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0 B/39.2 MB of archives. After this operation, 23.6 kB disk space will be freed. Reading changelogs... Done (Reading database ... 99244 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../linux-image-4.9.0-9-amd64_4.9.168-1+deb9u3_amd64.deb ... Unpacking linux-image-4.9.0-9-amd64 (4.9.168-1+d
21:00<theinevtiable>dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-4.9.0-9-amd64_4.9.168-1+deb9u3_amd64.deb (--unpack): unable to stat './lib/modules/4.9.0-9-amd64/kernel/arch/x86/crypto/crct10dif-pclmul.ko' (which I was about to install): Structure needs cleaning dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing:
21:00<dpkg>theinevtiable: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin).
21:00<annadane>ignore dpkg, it's a bot
21:01<theinevtiable>ahhh i guess pastebin would be a better solution, i didn't realize there was character limit
21:01<annadane>pasting is indeed preferable for long pastes but dpkg got triggered because you said "dpkg: blah blah"
21:01<annadane>paste.debian.net
21:02<annadane>unless that was all of it
21:02<theinevtiable>https://pastebin.com/JabANcgZ
21:03<theinevtiable>i honestly think the issue could be related to a bungled attempt to upgrade from PHP 7.0 to 7.3. I (like an idiot) followed a tutorials advice and ran apt purge php7.0*, which also broke my roundcube but that's a whole nother ball game
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21:07<sarnold>crazy though, dpkg responded something useful :)
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21:13<theinevtiable>and guys, if anybody has input, I'm all ears, I've tried most everything that Google has led me to. but unfortunately, I'm just not 100% understanding the error
21:14<mendelmunkis>did you try deleting /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-4.9.0-9-amd64_4.9.168-1+deb9u3_amd64.deb?
21:15<theinevtiable>i did. i also tried apt clean and force installing the package
21:16<mendelmunkis>can your archive manager read he file it was trying to stat?
21:17<sarnold>theinevtiable: curious, is there anything in dmesg that might indicate drive errors?
21:17<jmcnaught>yeah I was just about to ask that, it sounds like a filesystem problem with "unable to stat…" and "Structure needs cleaning"
21:17<theinevtiable>to mendel - are you referring to: crct10dif-pclmul.ko?
21:17<mendelmunkis>yes.
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21:18<mendelmunkis>dpkg looks to be having an issue reading the package file.
21:18<dpkg>mendelmunkis: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
21:18<sarnold>that specific error message comes from https://git.dpkg.org/cgit/dpkg/dpkg.git/tree/src/archives.c#n750
21:19<theinevtiable>so I did recently have a drive throwing ATA errors, and rebuilt the array. what would you advise I do to clean up the issue?
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21:19<sarnold>my guess is that there's a filesystem error somewhere in /lib/modules/... somewheres
21:19<sarnold>and your kernel might be printing errors from the filesystem layer or the block layer in dmesg
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21:20<theinevtiable>sounds like a safe bet. what would be the best option to repair such an issue?
21:20<theinevtiable>you're dead on. i just looking in dmesg, tons of corruption detection
21:21<sarnold>it depends upon how it is broken. that might be buy new hard drives, or new controller, or new cables, new powersupply, etc.
21:21<sarnold>it might be "run fsck"
21:21<sarnold>(but don't run fsck if your hardware is at fault)
21:21<sarnold>smartctl may be able to help you guess if your drives are going bad
21:22<theinevtiable>i can't be sure, it's a dedicated server located across the country. i recently had them replace a drive and the array rebuilt successfully. but possibly there is more at fault
21:22<sarnold>that's much less convenient to troubleshoot :(
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21:26<theinevtiable>extremely. i just did self asessments and all drives are passing
21:26<sarnold>and the raid controller looks happy? no uncorrected errors?
21:29<theinevtiable>yep reporting clean
21:30<sarnold>anything in dmesg?
21:30<finn0>GyrosGeier: Is due to that I cannot run application in sandbox? And you're right when I was Oracle jdk I've to configure it to run non-https URLs.
21:30<mendelmunkis>areyou sure your RAID rebuild was clean?
21:31<theinevtiable>lots of metadata corruption, yada yada yada
21:31<theinevtiable>but i'm less familiar with dmesg or how to understand WHEN these errors occured, since i know i had a failing drive not that long ago
21:32<theinevtiable>timestamp appears as: 3372.426771
21:32<finn0>sqrt{not} , GyrosGeier: Sorry for delay reponse. Yesterday, I was tried and slept earlier.
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21:32<somiaj>theinevtiable: that time stamp is realtivie to boot time, I think in seconds
21:32<sarnold>yeah, that'll be about one hour after boot
21:32<theinevtiable>oh yeah so that's now
21:32<twb>somiaj: if you're looking at dmesg, -H will make the timestamps easier
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21:33<finn0>theinevtiable: you can use -T option for timestamp
21:36<theinevtiable>all those errors i'm seeing are when it's trying to upgrade the package
21:36<theinevtiable>and as far as am i sure it was clean, the log reported it being clean and mdadm reports it's clean. do i have any other options to check?
21:38<sarnold>if you're confident the hardware is good you could try a fsck
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21:38<somiaj>you could try some other disk intensive process like writing /dev/urandom to a file, maybe with dd so y ou only write a file so big
21:38<somiaj>see if that causes the errors.
21:39<sarnold>insert the usual 'be sure to have backups' speech here :)
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21:42<annadane>in future maybe don't delete php 7.0 even if you've installed 7.3 :P
21:42<annadane>that said no idea if that intersects with your issue
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21:57<theinevtiable>so i wrote 5 separate 1gb files from /dev/urandom then i copied them a couple times and then checked. no errors in dmesg
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22:02<theinevtiable>so what are the odds i ended up with just a few files corrupt from the prior drive issues? would you just recommend fsck?
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22:06<theinevitable>i got disconnected, if anyone had any other information to add to my prior question please resend
22:06<theinevitable>i'm using a webIRC client. i know, i know, horrible.
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22:15<somiaj>fsck won't find corrupted files, only the filesystem. You would need soemthing like debsums to check for file corruption
22:15<somiaj>!debsums
22:15<dpkg>debsums is a utility that will check a package's files against their checksums. The "-a" argument will instruct it to also check configuration files: "apt install debsums; debsums -a -s". Almost all packages come with md5sums included in the package or apt will have generated them for you; generate missing ones with "apt-get install --reinstall `debsums -l`". Ask me about <md5sums>.
22:15<somiaj>this of course only works for files instealld from debian packages.
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22:22<finn0>sqrt{not}: java console output ( https://share.riseup.net/#HK2O_NQ_ptg5eiIMJj0L-w ) when run application as sandbox.
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