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#debian IRC Logs for 2019-06-22

---Logopened Sat Jun 22 00:00:35 2019
00:04-!-dboehmer [~quassel@pD9EA7A07.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
00:04-!-dboehmer is "Daniel B\xF6hmer,,," on #debian
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01:27-!-SkarmoutsosV is "Vangelis Skarmoutsos" on #debian-i18n #debian-next #debian
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02:04-!-silver is "Jesse Lee Morgan" on #linux #mm #neurodebian #debian-offtopic #debconf-cambridge #debian-kde #debian-science #debian-next #debian #debian-meeting
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02:19<Raj_>when i m playing video...noise of machine is coming
02:20<Raj_>hell
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02:39-!-helios21 is "Martin Steigerwald,,," on #debian
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02:55-!-twb is "Trent W. Buck" on #debian #debian-au
02:55<twb>Is there a sensible way to turn a binary package name into a corresponding source package name?
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03:11*twb resorts to grep-dctrl
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04:03<b3h4ppy>can anyone tell me my ip
04:05-!-mode/#debian [+o debhelper] by dwfreed
04:05<dwfreed>b3h4ppy: 197.156.118.233
04:05<dwfreed>you can see this yourself with /whois
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04:09<gdusunen>selam
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06:49<demo>hi
06:50<Helge>hi
06:50<demo>i am try to connect 802.11n wifi dongle but my pc not found any wifi dongle what to do...?
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06:50<demo>Model No. is Maxicom M272
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06:54<demo>Helge help
06:54<demo>anyone ..?
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06:57<ttaat>hello
06:57<demo>i am try to connect 802.11n wifi dongle but my pc not found any wifi dongle what to do...?
06:57<ttaat>how do i force an upgrade?
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06:58<ttaat>i'm getting the missing video card firmaware error that prevents me from upgrade
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07:17<ttaat>nobody?
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07:29<admin_>my usb wifi dongle 3.0 model no. m272 maxicom not found what to do..>
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08:00<ttaat>do you have the right drivers admin_?
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09:37<jmcnaught>ttaat: can you show us the error you're getting on https://paste.debian.net/ ?
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09:53<quatchis>Hey all, I was trying to find some information
09:53<quatchis>I was looking to find more info about KDE plasma with Wayland on Stretch
09:54<dboles>!ask
09:54<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
09:54<dboles>what info do you need?
09:54<Ganneff>!kde
09:54<dpkg>KDE software is based on the Qt toolkit. See http://www.kde.org/ for release news and other details. Ask me about <install kde> or <remove kde>. You can also get KDE-specific help in #debian-kde (irc.oftc.net) or in other KDE-related IRC channels: http://userbase.kde.org/IRC_Channels . Also check out http://wiki.debian.org/KDE .
09:55<quatchis>I was trying to find any resources to install Wayland on Debian 9 (stretch) or if its even supported on KDE Plasma. I know buster has support but I dont want to upgrade just yet.
09:57<ksk>quatchis: using buster would be much easier than trying wayland on stretch I suppose
09:57<ksk>,v wayland
09:57<judd>No package named 'wayland' was found in amd64.
09:58<ksk>,v xwayland
09:58<judd>Package: xwayland on amd64 -- jessie: 2:1.16.4-1+deb8u2; jessie-security: 2:1.16.4-1+deb8u2; stretch-security: 2:1.19.2-1+deb9u4; stretch: 2:1.19.2-1+deb9u5; buster: 2:1.20.4-1; sid: 2:1.20.4-1
09:58<ksk>,checkbackports xwayland
09:58<quatchis>hmm, ok maybe it's time then to upgrade to buster.
09:58<quatchis>much thanks for the info
09:59<ksk>mhhm, there is a version of it in stretch though - have you tried just using it?
09:59<ksk>I have heard that it becomes much more usable with buster though
10:01<quatchis>I have tried a few things but cant seem to get it to work on stretch so im going to just do a backup and then upgrade to Buster and see if i have any luck.
10:03<ksk>apart from the RC-Bugs I would say it is fine to use.
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10:25<MoMo>Hi,
10:25<MoMo>can i get help here regarding installing Debian on my laptop
10:25<dboles>!ask
10:25<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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10:27<MoMo>I've got problem installing debian on my laptop , (probably because wifi card drivers Realtek 8822BE) I
10:28<dboles>and this problem occurs when you do what, and involves which symptoms (error message? smoke coming out of computer?) etc.
10:29<MoMo>tried multiple iso's last one was https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/buster_di_rc1-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/ , error message your network is probably not using the dhcp ... etc ,
10:30<jmcnaught>MoMo: are you able to install using ethernet, then worry about the wireless after?
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10:31<MoMo>unfortenutly no ethernet connection available
10:33<MoMo>error message during installation https://imgur.com/a/EET1DaN , if i kept going will face this error when installing finished https://imgur.com/a/5EvEkjL and the system won't boot up
10:34<jmcnaught>MoMo: how new is your laptop? Did you try one of the installers that includes non-free firmware?
10:35<MoMo>I've already made sure the required drivers for my wifi card already included in the iso file ,https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/336533/installing-missing-firmware-in-debian/336534#336534 and the iso kernel is 4.19 which should support those drivers
10:35<blast007>drivers are part of the kernel, firmware is the word you're looking for
10:36<piper>that looks like a video card error rather than a wireless
10:36<blast007>buster's firmware-realtek has the firmware for the 8822BE
10:37<MoMo>oh so driver != firmware
10:37<quatchis>I had a similar problem. I did the "Advanced GUI Installation" and that let me manually set my ip address which worked.
10:37<blast007>MoMo: correct
10:38<blast007>so you need both a new enough kernel and the supporting firmware - buster should in theory have both, assuming the firmware package is installed as well
10:39<MoMo>just to make sure , you are saying https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/buster_di_rc1-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/ this iso won't work !
10:39<MoMo>because it's bustre image
10:40<blast007>http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/ you could try the ones from here, which include (most) firmware
10:41<blast007>the normal installers don't include non-free firmware
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10:46<MoMo>blast007 : the directory you've provided contain same images iso names and directories names except they started at /cdimage/unofficial/...
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10:50<blast007>with the addition of the word 'nonfree' or 'firmware', indicating that they include non-free firmware.
10:50<MoMo>they are the exact same names
10:51<MoMo>but from 2 diffirent directories
10:51<blast007>debian-live-buster-DI-rc1-amd64-gnome.iso vs debian-live-buster-DI-rc1-amd64-gnome+nonfree.iso ?
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10:52<blast007>they are not the same names
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10:56<MoMo>oh sorry , this driving me crazy , since i've got debian-live-buster-DI-rc1-amd64-gnome+nonfree.iso already in my download folder but from diffirent download link got ambigous , thats because already downloaded and tested more than 6 diffirent iso files so far , any way will try this one debian-live-buster-DI-rc1-amd64-gnome+nonfree.iso now and will see , thanks for help
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11:15<MoMo>hi
11:15<J-Blaze>Hello
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11:15<MoMo>same error with this iso debian-live-buster-DI-rc1-amd64-gnome+nonfree
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11:17<osboxes>hi dudes
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11:22<MoMo>wifi card error during installation https://i.imgur.com/EvUL5ps.jpg if ignored it and complete will get this error eventually https://i.imgur.com/t841QSK.jpg used iso debian-live-buster-DI-rc1-amd64-gnome+nonfree wifi card realtek 8822BE , laptop thinkpad e495 ,cpu ryzen 3500u , gpu vega8
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11:25<blast007>tried a non-live image? possibly one of the daily or weekly builds?
11:27<MoMo>no will try
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14:15<ordychan>hello?
14:15<jmcnaught>ordychan: hi
14:15<ordychan>so this is first time me using IRC, what i do with it? i am confused with the client, got konversation
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14:16<jmcnaught>ordychan: you've reached a volunteer Debian tech support channel, if you need help simply ask a question. If you're looking to chat, maybe try /join #debian-offtopic
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14:18<dboles>!next
14:18<dpkg>Another happy customer leaves the building.
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14:26<ordychan>so for tech support am i right here?
14:27<jmcnaught>This is the Debian tech support channel :)
14:29<ordychan>right sooo does debian by default ships with some old amdgpu drivers or something like that? i got trouble when nearly everything i run on it will seemingly go run back onto iGPU or will perform as badly
14:30<dboles>it would help to identify what amd gpu this is
14:30<ordychan>sorry forgot, rx550
14:30<ordychan>and its muxless
14:30<jmcnaught>You might need to install non-free firmware for your GPU, if you run "dmesg | grep -i firmware" are there messages about missing firmware?
14:31<ordychan>nope
14:31<jmcnaught>Did it report successfully loading firmware? Did you run dmesg as root?
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14:32<dboles>1st result on google; does it help? https://www.guyrutenberg.com/2018/11/01/getting-radeon-rx-550-to-work-under-debian-stretch/
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14:32<dboles>if you've already tried searching then it would help to mention what you found and what you've tried, so we don't repeat it
14:32<ordychan>ok ill try to reverse find what i tried
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14:33<ordychan>https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-amdgpu-drivers-on-debian-9-stretch-linux i was installing stuff from here, the most puzzling is why, mostly games, dont get onto dGPU but only one so far did
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14:40<towo`>no app will run on the dGPU automagic
14:40<ordychan>i know, i use DRI to pass it onto it
14:40<ordychan>but the thing is that lots of times it runs on iGPU anyways
14:41<somiaj>You can get a newer kernel, firmware, and mesa from stretch-backports. But with buster's release so close, with that newer hardware and wanting 3d support, I'd suggest going with buster so you get all the mesa stuff updated as well as the kernel and the firmware.
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14:41<ordychan>yeah i was thinking to wait for it, btw, once its out, will i be able to update from inside debi9?
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14:42<jmcnaught>ordychan: yes, upgrades from one major release to the next are supported
14:42<ordychan>thats good, but still, i would like to know cause what is going on, so if it happens again i might be able to deal with it in future
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14:51<somiaj>ordychan: one thing is if you install stuff outside of debian it makes the upgrade harder.
14:51<somiaj>!buster release
14:51<dpkg>Buster's release is planned for 2019-07-06 (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2019/06/msg00003.html). Celebrate by attending, or hosting, a buster release party: https://wiki.debian.org/ReleasePartyBuster
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14:51<somiaj>also the release is mostly frozen and about ready to go live, so you could upgrade now and be running what will become the release (minus some bug fixes and limited security support until the 6th)
14:51<ordychan>wait u can upgrade now? will it be able from debian itself too?
14:52<ordychan>if so how?
14:52<lappy>how
14:53<jmcnaught>ordychan: there are instructions for upgrading in the (draft) buster release notes: https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/releasenotes
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14:55<ordychan>woah thats a lot of stuff to do but i guess it can work
14:56<jmcnaught>There's really not that much to it, but readying the release notes is recommended.
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14:57<ordychan>not sure if i exactly get what i have to do, i see here adding apt sources and stuffs
14:57<jmcnaught>You might not have spent enough time reading the instructions then.
14:58<ordychan>i am just bit overwhelmed :D, ill figure it out and hopefully not break the system
14:59<jmcnaught>I'd read through the instructions once first, then follow them step by step. Each step is pretty simple itself.
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15:17<tripkin>Does debian buster / gnome intercept the media keys? I am trying to set global hotkeys in vlc 3.0.7 and I cannot set (or if manually set, use) <shift>, <ctrl>, or <alt> + <media key> combos to control the media jumps. Any ideas, or is this a videolan/vlc problem?
15:18<jmcnaught>tripkin: maybe try the media keys in Totem aka Videos?
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15:18<tripkin>I can only set the play / stop . next, and previous media keys in settings.
15:18<tripkin>jmcnaught, I will try it...
15:19<ordychan>so after completing the ugprade i should just reboot and hope for the best right?
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15:20<tripkin>jmcnaught, the media keys do not work in Totem
15:20<tripkin>I will have to see if I can find out where to assign them.
15:21<tripkin>One of the reasons I prefer vlc is the playlist management and codec support...
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15:23<tripkin>Ah, I see the problem with the media keys... I need to assign them specifically. However, there is no support for jumping through a media file (advancing or rewinding in increments)
15:24<ordychan>btw how is gnome on debian overall? is there chance it will actually run good or sumthin like that?
15:24<tripkin>heh gotta read _everything_ before typing... Sorry for the noise
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15:27<tripkin>jmcnaught, Totem does not appear to offer media key support, nor does it offer global hotkeys so I can watch videos in Totem on one monitor while doing other things on other monitors without having to change window focus to adjust video/audio. This is one of the things that I like with vlc.
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15:31<weedloser>Hi there ordychan, you might remember me from... somewhere
15:31<ordychan>its you!
15:31<ordychan>lul
15:31<weedloser>Yepp :P
15:31<ordychan>i was wondering if i will find u here
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15:32<weedloser>Indeed :)
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15:40<tripkin>jmcnaught, I figured it out - mostly. I needed to disable the media keys in settings to be able to use them in vlc. The only combo that I cannot use, for some reason, is <ctrl><media prev/next track>. The control key is not able to be used in this fashion?
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15:57<jmcnaught>tripkin: I don't know. I just quickly tried a wireless keyboard on my buster laptop and the media keys on it seemed to work for me in Totem (VLC not installed). Not sure what it could be.
16:00<tripkin>jmcnaught, thanks for checking. Do you have the media keys assigned in settings? Otherwise, I am also at a loss. I have found that <ctrl><mediakey> cannot be assigned, but any other combination of <shift><ctrl><alt>+<mediakey> can be assigned and works globally.
16:01<tripkin>I suspect that vlc 3.0.7 made some changes if it wasn't debian/gnome...
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16:05<jmcnaught>tripkin: okay I just tried again in VLC, and the play/pause, next, and previous keys work on my wireless keyboard. Those keys are listed in GNOME settings keyboard section, I haven't changed anything there.
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16:13<tripkin>jmcnaught, yes, that is how it worked for me. However, I was unable to make assignments for additional use as vlc global hotkeys until I removed them in settings. It is kind of weird as I don't believe it should matter.
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16:41<loudaslife>how do I manually add packages during installation? I'm currently at the tasksel screen
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16:52<furrymcgee>you can preseed configuration via boot parameter maybe its possible in debian installer menu too
16:58<jmcnaught>loudaslife: it's probably more convenient to install packages after the first reboot, but while in the installer you can get to the main menu by selecting "go back" on one of the stages, and in the menu there's an 'execute a shell' option
16:58<loudaslife>jmcnaught: I was hoping to get the packages I need to connect to wifi before first reboot
16:59<jmcnaught>loudaslife: do you mean firmware packages?
16:59<loudaslife>otherwise I'd have to transfer packages from a flash drive or something
16:59<loudaslife>nah, the firmware installs, I just don't get iwconfig or any of that stuff
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19:05<Nemodus>Hello. I'm using KDE and getting messages like "could not create directory .local/share/kcookiejar" and "your firefox profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible." Any ideas on how to fix that?
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19:06<somiaj>Nemodus: wonder if your $HOME enviroment variable is incorrectly set, causing that problem.
19:09<jmcnaught>or is /home mounted read-only?
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19:12<Nemodus>I'm an almost complete noob, so how do I check if it's read-only?
19:14<Nemodus>And might have something to do with permissions because everything I open shows the message showing that something in "/.config/what ever i click on" is unwritable
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19:16<somiaj>the path shoulndt not be /.config/whateve, something is wrong, it should be $HOME/.config/whatever
19:17<jmcnaught>Nemodus: if you run 'mount | grep home' at the end it should say rw not ro
19:17<somiaj>I'd suggest opening a terminal and running 'echo $HOME'
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19:18<Nemodus>Sorry, I was not precise. It actually is "/home/user/.config/konsolerc" for instance
19:20<Nemodus>If it changes anything I'm running Debian Buster.
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19:21<jmcnaught>Nemodus: was /home rw or ro?
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19:24<Nemodus>it just shows /home/nemodus
19:25<somiaj>also check if your home partition is full
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19:26<Nemodus>90.0 GiB free
19:27<jmcnaught>'mount | grep home' just showed /home/nemodus?
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19:28<Nemodus>'echo $HOME showed /home/nemodus
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19:28<Nemodus>mount | grep home doesn't show anything
19:30<jmcnaught>Nemodus: okay then run: mount | grep ' / '
19:31<jmcnaught>make sure to include the quotation marks and spaces after grep
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19:33<Nemodus>ok that gave me a huge text
19:33<jmcnaught>it only gives me one line
19:34<somiaj>you could also just put the whole output of 'mount' at paste.debian.net and share the link
19:35<Nemodus>ok
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19:38<Nemodus>I'm having a hard time doing this because the debian computer isn't able to access anything and I'm using another PC here. Ill try to save the text and transfer it somehow
19:39<somiaj>another quick test, as root create a new user with adduser, and then see if you have the same problems with this new user
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19:41<Nemodus>Dang I can't even save the text to transfer it with USB. It says "The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to /home/nemodus/text.
19:42<somiaj>it is sounding like your disk is either full or you are mounted read only (priobably due to a failed fsck at boot)
19:42<Nemodus>Then asks to check that I have write access and if there is enough space
19:42<somiaj>which is the two things we have already mentioned
19:42<Nemodus>Oh
19:42<Nemodus>SHould I just reinstall Debian alltogether?
19:43<somiaj>I would figure out what the problem is, but if you can't share the output you'll have to learn to read it yourself
19:43<somiaj>the output of mount will tell you if you are mounted read only (ro)
19:43<somiaj>and the output from 'df -h' will tell you if your disk is full
19:43<somiaj>if you think resintalling (provided you won't loose any data) is easier, then go for it.
19:44<Nemodus>I won't loose anything because I just installed
19:44<Nemodus>But I would like to solve the problem rather
19:45<Nemodus>Disk is only with 11% being used
19:46<somiaj>did you create only one partition or multiple partitions?
19:46<somiaj>what about output of 'mount | grep ro'
19:47<Nemodus>'df -h' shows all of the file systems and the one I see with 11% used is tmpfs mounted on /run. But it's weird because I just saw /home using 11% using dolphin
19:47<somiaj>oh that probably won't help, you need to look at the output of mount, and look for the line that is your root partition /
19:47<somiaj>well the tmp partition is not the partition you want to look at
19:47<somiaj>well in this case /run
19:47<somiaj>you need to look at / or /home
19:50<Nemodus>During install I just went with use the entire disk and it created the standard partition
19:52<somiaj>!termbin
19:52<dpkg>[termbin] you can paste to termbin.com from terminal via: cat /path/to/file | nc termbin.com 9999
19:52<somiaj>maybe that will work, so run 'mount | nc termbin.com 9999'
19:52<somiaj>then share the link with us
19:53<Nemodus>ok
19:53<somiaj>(really hopes you have netcat (nc) installed)
19:54<Nemodus>Hey it works! you guys are awesome
19:54<Nemodus>http://termbin.com/kewn
19:55<somiaj>Nemodus: /dev/sda2 on / type ext4 (ro,relatime,errors=remount-ro)
19:55<somiaj>that is the line, and it is mounted read only
19:55<somiaj>which is your problem.
19:56<somiaj>reboot, check for errors regarind /dev/sda2 at boot about fsck not being clean, you may have to run a live system and manually fsck your filesystem.
19:57<Nemodus>Ok, I'll reboot.
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20:01<Nemodus>During boot I only get a black screen with text saying I failed loading some stuff. Is it at all possible to copy this?
20:01<somiaj>is the root file system still mounted read only (check mount again, look for the line I pasted)
20:01<Nemodus>Yes it says I should run fsck manualy
20:02<somiaj>you'll have to use a live system or the installer and run fsck on your root file system when it is not mounted, your filesystem is corrupt
20:05<Nemodus>I could use 'touch' to create a file so It's not read only
20:05<somiaj>no
20:05<somiaj>touch would fail since it is read only
20:06<somiaj>you need to fsck that file system
20:06<Nemodus>but touch worked, i used it to test if it was read only.
20:06<Nemodus>I see
20:07<somiaj>well what file did you touch? Also is it still mounted read only? Anyways, fix your file system
20:07<sqrt{not}>just out of curiosity, what is on the first partition of that disk, /dev/sda1 ?
20:07<somiaj>might be efi if a modern system booted in efi
20:08<somiaj>/dev/sda1 on /boot/efi type vfat (rw,relatime,fmask=0077,dmask=0077,codepage=437,iocharset=ascii,shortname=mixed,utf8,errors=remount-ro)
20:08<sqrt{not}>ahh, right, missed that...
20:08<Nemodus>I created touch 123 and it created something called 123. then I removed it and saw it was gone using ls. nothing else was changed.
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20:24<Nemodus>I used a live system to run fsck and it seems to be normal. Should I check if it's ok now? Just so I won't be surprised next time I boot the system
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20:33<Nemodus>Now I just have to fir
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20:35<Nemodus>Now I just have to figure out how to make my wireless work. Back to the forums. Thanks so much somiaj and dpkg. You guys are awesome
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20:46<somiaj>most likely just missing non-free firmawre
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22:05<Nemodus>Now I just have to figure out how to make my wireless work. Back to the forums. Thanks so much somiaj and dpkg. You guys are awesome2311231
22:05<Nemodus>Now I just have to figure out how to make my wireless work. Back to the forums. Thanks so much somiaj and dpkg. You guys are awesome
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