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#debian IRC Logs for 2019-07-02

---Logopened Tue Jul 02 00:00:08 2019
---Daychanged Tue Jul 02 2019
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01:42<error404>hello
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03:01<quatchis>Hey, is there wine32 bit support for Debian 10 Buster?
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03:35<towo^work>quatchis, why should it not?
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04:15<bapi>Hi
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05:02<aef>hi, could you please have a look at the following wacom stylus/xserver problem: https://unix.stackexchange.com/q/527889/26814
05:02<aef>would be nice if someone had an idea
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05:03<aef>or could refer me to some channel where someone could help
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05:18<Guest6515>hi
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05:28<ramfs_stretchS>i have a minimal debian install with default encryption from installer, where can I ask for help about resizing the partition to fill all available space in qemu?
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05:34<ramfs_stretchS>i don't understand why lsblk output is different from fdisk -l
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06:01<cupcake90>how do i disable touchpad when I connect external mouse, this was working in gnome with gsettings but xfce I am clueless any ideas
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06:09<ramfs_stretchS>cupcake90: you can't do it from Applications->Settings->Mouse and Touchpad ?
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06:15<nailed>playing around with latest buster build (cinnamon live). Installs fine. Issue is second monitor not found (xrandr doesn't show it). Primary monitor using proprietary nvidia driver, works fine. Second monitor plugged into onboard intel, not found. Usually happens when nvidia-xsettings created a xorg.conf file but checked and no xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 so that isn't the issue this time? :/
06:16<nailed>Not finding much on my specific issue and not sure what to do next?
06:17<tarzeau>nailed: bios settings? did it ever work with other software?
06:17<cupcake90>ramfs_stretchS: Nope there is no such option in xfce also I could not find in xsettings
06:17<tarzeau>i've seen some sceen button settings not work anymore when connecting by hdmi/dp
06:18<ramfs_stretchS>fixed the expanding partition with some reasoning and just creating a new partition, btw.
06:18<tarzeau>nailed: tried a full reboot with the screens attached/powered at startup?
06:18<ramfs_stretchS>cupcake90: i think xinput or something, but i don't know
06:18<nailed>@tarzeau, works in all other distro's used for last two / three years... ubuntu, cinnamon, fedora, opensuse etc. etc. usually only happens in manjaro as soon as an xorg.conf file is avialable and autodetection isn't done
06:19<nailed>so i am not sure what is prevening it from being even seen by xrandr etc.
06:20<nailed>can't recall if it ever worked in Debian... been a while since I played with it
06:21<cupcake90>ramfs_stretchS: Hmm I tried xinput and command not found
06:22<cupcake90>I think its using synaptic or something
06:23<ramfs_stretchS>one solution i found was using xinput list , finding the id, and disabling it with xinput. i can find the package with apt show xinput
06:24<ramfs_stretchS>i'm starting to think debian wasn't meant for being used for browsing, lol
06:25<Willi-Smith>Hi, how can I in general find out which application catches specific keybinding. In debian buster lxde in which config is xf86sleep defined?
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06:32<cupcake90>ramfs_stretchS: I can disable it there is option for that but its a basic function to disable touchpad when there is external mouse seems to be not working in xfce
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06:33<ramfs_stretchS>cupcake90: i'd just write a 10-20 line script to do it
06:35<cupcake90>ramfs_stretchS: Sure you can thats not a solution for a normal user right? Is it possible to create a new key using xsettings?
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06:44<ramfs_stretchS>cupcake90: try joining #debian-xfce
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06:47<cupcake90>ramfs_stretchS: Thanks I will try there :)
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09:33<EmleyMoor>I've got a text file the contents of which I wish to paste in full into my asterisk session - all systems are running Debian and accessible in the same xorg session. What's the easiest way to do it?
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09:37<themill>EmleyMoor: what level of automation is needed for this?
09:37<themill>would futzing around with xclip and xdotool be ok?
09:38<EmleyMoor>themill: That kind of futzing would probably be perfect
09:39<EmleyMoor>Just need to put this lot in, "one shot" as it were
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11:10<drzacek>Hello there
11:11<drzacek>a silly question, but is it possible to revert to a package situation from date X? I did something with packages, removed or installed something and can't go back to a working state
11:11<drzacek>I had a very fragile equilibrium of multiarch libsdl2, which doesn't really work well together
11:13<themill>you can wade backwards through the apt or dpkg logs and try to undo what happened since date X manually, that's the best there is, unless you've wired lvm snapshots into dpkg or something ;)
11:13<drzacek>nope
11:13<drzacek>developing for 32bit on 64 bit sucks
11:14*themill always uses chroots
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11:16<drzacek>yeah I guess I'm not that profi yet
11:17<drzacek>I set up a chroot yesterday, now trying to port the projects there
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11:23<themill>in case you've not come across it, schroot makes it very easy to use chroots, share things into them such as devices, X etc
11:24<drzacek>okay, I think I found the solution
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11:24<drzacek>libsdl2-dev:i386, libsdl2-2 (non dev) for amd64 host and my self compiled lib copied over
11:25<drzacek>aaaand there was some other issue that were causing additional segfault (along with segfaults caused by the sdl lib) which made the diagnostic real painful
11:26<drzacek>is there some kind of restore point on debian, or do I have to dd my disk somewhere?
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12:28<demo_>fuckk u
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12:28<dboles>cheers
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12:31<samael2>hello. i'm installing debian with the latest snapshot of the DI on a thinkpad a485 (ryzen). i can boot into the installer and manage to finish a system installation (using EFI), but right after reboot it doesn't boot at all. seems like there is no valid boot entries, as it asks for other boot sources. any hint would be appreciated
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12:45<ha3mak>hi
12:46<ha3mak>I'm creating a preseed debian installer image
12:46<ha3mak>it works but I can't set up the keymap
12:46<ha3mak>I tried like in the example preseed config: d-i keyboard-configuration/xkb-keymap select hu
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12:46<ha3mak>and many other ways... but in the end I got a us layout
12:47<ha3mak>I have a workaround, if I install the console-setup package it works, but the installer then prompts for the layout
12:47<ha3mak>How should this work?
12:47<ha3mak>I tried also with kernel parameters when starting the installer
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14:19<richard>hola a todos
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14:20<newuser>Hello everyone
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14:20<newuser>I have some troubles with my fresh installed debian 9
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14:21<newuser>Can you help me, or there is some support channel ?
14:21<dboles>!ask
14:21<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
14:21<dboles>!does not work
14:21<dpkg>"Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>.
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14:30<newuser>Look, i have a rx570 sapphire nitro+ gpu in my pc. It works great on other distributions (live ubuntu, desktop mint), but in debian 9 stable it is not working properly.My Desktop enviroment (cinnamon) works on software render, and I have troubles with screen when I am starting up the system or using the alt+tab. The boot screen says that 'amd gpu invalid oci rom header singnature: expecting 0xaa55, got 0xfff; amdgpu firmware: failed to l
14:30<newuser>oad mc firmware !;d[drm:amdgpu_device_init[amdgpu[]]*ERROR* sw_init of IP block ,gmc_v8_0. failed -2; amdgpu:amdgpu init failed; amdgpu: Fatal error during gpu init. [TTM] Memory type 2 has not been initialised." There's not so much information in internet about my problem, looks like there's some troubles with AMDGPU driver.
14:31<somiaj>you most likely need to install some non-free firmware for radeon devices
14:32<somiaj>,v firmware-amd-graphics
14:32<judd>Package: firmware-amd-graphics on amd64 -- jessie-security/non-free: 20161130-5~deb8u1; stretch/non-free: 20161130-5; stretch-backports/non-free: 20190114-1~bpo9+2; buster/non-free: 20190114-1; sid/non-free: 20190502-1
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14:35<somiaj>it could also be the kernel in stretch is a bit too old for your paticular amdgpu card (I think it might) so you'll most likely need a kernel 4.19 and the firmware from stretch-backports
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14:36<binaryhermit>which at this point, you might as well consider just doing buster instead imo
14:36<newuser>i have kernel 4.9.19
14:36<binaryhermit>since buster's gonna be out in less than a week
14:36<binaryhermit>doesn't buster have 4.19?
14:37<newuser>Ok, i will try to install non-free amd drivers, thank you !
14:37<binaryhermit>https://packages.debian.org/buster/linux-image-amd64
14:37<somiaj>yea, with newer hardware, you may find buster what you want because you will also get newer mesa and various opther pieces of the gl stack
14:37<somiaj>!buster release
14:37<dpkg>Buster's release is planned for 2019-07-06 (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2019/06/msg00003.html). Celebrate by attending, or hosting, a buster release party: https://wiki.debian.org/ReleasePartyBuster
14:37<binaryhermit>seems to think I'm right
14:38<somiaj>newuser: buster is going to be released next week, you can install it now, it is basically ready, and your newer hardware may just like it better
14:38<binaryhermit>I mean, I want to be hesitant to suggest buster, but it's coming out Saturday I think
14:38<binaryhermit>whatever day of the week the 6th is
14:39<newuser>Looks like buster is testing tree of development, will my system upgrade to the stable "tree" when it will be released so i will be able to install latest security updates ?
14:39<newuser>If i will install it now
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14:40<burrows>Your apt files will include "buster" in them so yes, it will switch to stable automatically
14:41<newuser>ok, thank you
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14:49<binaryhermit>I think you can do "stable" or "testing" instead of a specific codename, but that's probably a horrible idea
14:50<binaryhermit>going between releases tends to sort of break things, so you want to be able to control when it happens
14:50<binaryhermit>(and I might be wrong about whether that works or not)
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14:51<binaryhermit>I think debian installs used to do that by default though
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15:15<jhutchins_wk>binaryhermit: It works, but when a new stable release happens you will get new packages any time you install.
15:16<jhutchins_wk>binaryhermit: It's more recommended to use the release names and upgrade deliberately and concsiously.
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15:16<binaryhermit>We're on the same page
15:17<ragyroot>Whats going on in here, anythin' fun?
15:18<jhutchins_wk>,kernels
15:18<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 5.0.0-trunk-686-pae (5.0.2-1~exp1); sid: 4.19.0-5-686-pae (4.19.37-5); buster: 4.19.0-5-686-pae (4.19.37-5); stretch-backports: 4.19.0-0.bpo.5-686-pae (4.19.37-4~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-9-686 (4.9.168-1+deb9u3); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.9.88-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 4.9.0-0.bpo.9-686-pae (4.9.168-1+deb9u3~deb8u1); wheezy-
15:18<judd>backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-6-686-pae (3.2.102-1)
15:20<binaryhermit>I just think, with buster so close, you might as well consider moving to it rather than messing with backports?
15:20<binaryhermit>but that's just me
15:20<jhutchins_wk>Backports is probably lower risk, simpler.
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15:36<ruger>türk var mı ?
15:37<ruger>conenct #kali
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15:42<amacater>!ask
15:42<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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15:42<WeebSec>fuck
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15:42<binaryhermit>but you should probably move to buster in the reasonably near term, so...
15:42<binaryhermit>almost certainly by the time it goes to LTS status
15:43<somiaj>at this point I would suggest using buster if you are doing a fresh install, its for a desktop, or you don't have any particular need for stretch
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15:43<somiaj>it is basically ready at this point, expect a few more bug fixes in the next week, and ocne the release happens on the 6th security support will begin.
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15:44<somiaj>though stretch is well tested, works and will get support for another year (then lts even long)
15:45<binaryhermit>I mean, do what you will unless you do something that turns your computer into a threat to someone else
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15:45<binaryhermit>lts doesn't provide security support for every package, does it?
15:46<amacater>lts - no, only for a small subset of packages.
15:46<amacater>It's a paid project, in one sense, but it is best endeavours from volunteers. If something is too hard to maintain / keep patched / keep secure it can readily be dropped
15:47<somiaj>buster should be fine, it will be the new stable soon
15:48<amacater>I've done updates from stretch -> buster without too much trouble BUT wait until the 6th AND read the release notes carefully
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15:48<binaryhermit>I mean, given that I'm of the opinion that it's time to consider an exit path from Solaris, which is supported until at least, but probably not after, 2034, I'm thinking if you're considering stretch-backports or buster, choose buster. But backports is an option too
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15:50<binaryhermit>I've been running buster on my seedbox/irc box for... a decent while, probably over a month, no real problems
15:50<amacater>If you're considering stretch-backports unless it is to cover some specific hardware that is only covered by a newer kernel - you're using less tested code in the sense that fewer people use stretch-backports
15:50<binaryhermit>and I'm running raspbian buster on my Pi NAS
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15:50<binaryhermit>someone was having issues with an AMD GPU
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15:51<amacater>I've fewer issues with an AMD GPU on Debian buster than I do with Windows 10 - AMD have dropped support for it but Debian "just works"
15:51<amacater>Different people have different experiences ...
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15:52<binaryhermit>the person was on stretch, though, and I believe it was a newish card
15:52<binaryhermit>so it doesn't surprise me
15:53<binaryhermit>...at this point in the release cycle, stuff on stable's kinda old. Which is quite often fine
15:53<amacater>There's always a catch up with the newest hardware ...
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15:53<binaryhermit>but with newer HW can be a problem
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15:54<binaryhermit>I think stretch probably froze toward 3 years ago
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15:54<amacater>This is the general experience that people used to have with hardware and Linux: it is getting better.
15:54<binaryhermit>The Release Team has set the freeze dates for Debian 9 (stretch): 5 November 2016 for transitions, 5 January 2017 for the soft freeze, and the full freeze on 5 February 2017.
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15:55<binaryhermit>so I was a little off, close enough
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15:56<amacater>So the lifecycle at the minute is (about) two years for a release, one year for that to be supported for security after the next release, then a period of extended support
15:56<amacater>Think three years per Debian full release and full support
15:56<binaryhermit>4.9 went stable in December 2016, though I'm not sure how much hardware backport love the debian spin of 4.9 got since then
15:57<jmcnaught>re: LTS I think it provides support for more packages than a lot of people realize, see for example the DLAs: https://www.debian.org/lts/security/ also the LTS FAQ says to use check-support-status from the debian-security-support package to detect unsupported packages
15:57<somiaj>most likely not much hardware got backported
15:57<jmcnaught>and I think the list that check-support-status is checking for jessie is this: https://sources.debian.org/src/debian-security-support/2019.06.13/security-support-ended.deb8/
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15:58<binaryhermit>it appears this AMD GPU chipset came out in April 2017, so there you go
15:58<amacater>Hardware support is only backported when stuff breaks severely, I think - you can't guearantee forward support of hardware you haven't got yet ...
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16:00<burrows>What's debian 11's codename?
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16:01<amacater>bullseye, I think
16:01<burrows>Oh, yeah, thanks
16:02<amacater>!release
16:02<dpkg>Debian 9 "Stretch" was released on 2017-06-17. It is now considered "stable". Ask me about <install debian>, <jessie->stretch> to upgrade from Debian 8 "Jessie" See http://www.debian.org/releases/ or <release history> for the latest (and historical) releases. For updates from the Debian Release Team, see http://release.debian.org/
16:02<at0m>https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1979376/ Toy Story 4. New character, "Forky". Gonna be a fun debian release, if ever.
16:02<amacater>That's going to need update :)
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16:11<somiaj>amacater: all the factoids are set to be updated during the release (or right after)
16:11<dvs>!wwbr
16:11<dpkg>Debian 10 "Buster" started the <freeze> process on 2019-01-12 and should release on July 6, 2019. See https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2019/06/msg00003.html.
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16:16<evil2win>link for ai
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16:17<jhutchins_wk>The guy just needed the firmware. No need to question whether it's stretch or buster.
16:17<jhutchins_wk>D'Oh, lost in the scrollbuffer again.
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17:13<minikdo>hi, Debian 10.0, Xfce4, ThinkPad T420, blank screen on light-locker, cannot enter password. Any ideas?
17:13<minikdo>I can ssh into the machine, though
17:14<somiaj>maybe xorg/display issue, check the xorg log to see what is being detected. Maybe it is detecing a mode your moinitor doens't support
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17:15<minikdo>only restarting lightdm service helps
17:15<minikdo>nothing in the Xorg logs
17:15<somiaj>but after you restart lightdm everything is back to normal?
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17:15<minikdo>somiaj: yup
17:16<somiaj>wonder if something about the timming of running light dm xorg doesn't detect thigns correctly. You should compare the xorg log to when it works vs when it doesn't.
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17:17<minikdo>I've install i3lock and it works fine
17:17<minikdo>perhaps I should just remove light-locker
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