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03:01<berto>are the profiles in apparmor-profiles more experimental than those in apparmor-profiles-extra ?
03:02<berto>that's what the description suggests
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03:02<berto>but the naming of the packages is a bit confusing
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04:08<haitham>hi
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04:37<wulan>hey
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04:38<wulan>any body here?? :?
04:38<jm_>no
04:38<wulan>hey jm
04:40<wulan>hey guys
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04:41<drzacek>bye
04:42<drzacek>hello there
04:42<drzacek>do I assume correctly, that X/GUI/graphical interface puts some magical cookie or access file in user home?
04:43<drzacek>I've been setting up chroot for 32bit dev for some time now, and I heard that in order to run graphic programs I need to set some things up
04:43<drzacek>yet it worked kinda out-of-the-box
04:44<drzacek>but I do bind mount the /home into chroot /home
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04:47<jm_>drzacek: X11 uses Xauthority file
04:47<jm_>bleh
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06:02<rant>drzacek: use schroot
06:03<rant>,i schroot
06:03<judd>Package schroot (admin, optional) in buster/amd64: Execute commands in a chroot environment. Version: 1.6.10-6+b1; Size: 777.2k; Installed: 2728k; Homepage: https://gitlab.com/codelibre/schroot; O: #900874
06:04<babagau>any help on this error? babagau@Makis:~$ xbindkeys -v
06:04<babagau>displayName = :0
06:04<babagau>rc file = /home/babagau/.xbindkeysrc
06:04<babagau>rc guile file = /home/babagau/.xbindkeysrc.scm
06:04<babagau>getting rc guile file /home/babagau/.xbindkeysrc.scm.
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06:06<jm_>babagau: use the paste site
06:06<jm_>!paste
06:06<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: http://paste.debian.net | pics/screenshots: http://file.io/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): http://file.io or http://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
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06:07<babagau>jm_ thanks!
06:08<babagau>dpkg ok!
06:08<dpkg>babagau: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
06:08<babagau>9 lines from terminal
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06:11<jm_>yeah put it on the paste site and give us URL
06:11<babagau>xbindkeys issue: http://paste.debian.net/1092037
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06:13<jm_>sorry no idea about guille
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06:14<Vergo>babagau: have you tried to comment out something in .xbindkeysrc.scm?
06:18<babagau>I commented out my addings, same thing happens
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06:18<Vergo>babagau: which character did you use for commenting out lines?
06:19<babagau>#
06:19<Vergo>the guile reference manual says that the correct character is ;
06:20<Vergo>my guess is that the '#\space' that causes the error should also be ';\space'
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06:26<babagau>this I added in xbindkeysrc.scm http://paste.debian.net/1092039/
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06:41<yanosz_>Hei, I'm experiencing a rather strange issue with lxc on stretch (different hosts, different containers) - from time to time /dev is "full" - df -h shows: none 492K 492K 0 100% /dev
06:41<yanosz_>the host is rather relexaed: /dev/mapper/www2-var 1007G 622G 334G 66% / (taken from guest)
06:41<yanosz_>rebooting can be used its a work around, but this is rather annoying.
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06:42<yanosz_>googling didn't come up with stf.
06:42<yanosz_>do you have any idea?
06:42<valdyn>yanosz_: what is taking the space in /dev ?
06:42<yanosz_>Don't know. ls -lh did'nt revealed sth. suspicious
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06:44<yanosz_>do you think, its regular file or some quota going wild?
06:47<CheckRayns>@yanosz : du -sh * | sort -rn
06:47<CheckRayns>you can see the deleted files
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06:49<supaman>oh man, firefox is crashing wayyyy to often
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06:49<supaman>there is a way to see the latest crash report, but I forgot how to do it, anyone remember?
06:50<thsnr>supaman: about:crashes
06:52<thsnr>you can also try to restart firefox in safe mode and see if the crashes persist: menu -> help -> restart with add-ons disabled
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07:11<sir_mr>hello how do I stop error message from showing whend doing dpkg? I installed Minecraft and it says there were unmet dependencies or something every time i run apt or dpkg even though the install was succesful. it says I should do --fix-broken install but that will delete my Minecraft even though it works properly
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07:18<jm_>get a package with non-broken dependencies
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07:20<supaman>https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/deda73fc-e887-4b35-98bf-80bbc0190718 so, what does this crash in firefox look like? (that is, what is causing it?)
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08:00<jack_>i need something from someone
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08:01<GyrosGeier>somebody should do something
08:02<EmleyMoor>Does mariadb's root user normally have a password? If so how do I set it?
08:02<supaman>somebody should think of someone elses children
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08:07<supaman>EmleyMoor: I think your supposed to run a script called mysql_secure_installation
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08:08<EmleyMoor>supaman: will investigate. It won't affect my existing data, will it?
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08:09<supaman>EmleyMoor: I don't know how it works, been such a long time since I have set up an SQL server
08:09<jmcnaught>EmleyMoor: no more root password for mariadb, you're supposed to just connect as root (system user). There's a note about it in the README.Debian (I think in the mariadb-server-10.3 package)
08:09<EmleyMoor>Ah, I see. Important to know for my backup script
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08:11<kazaamjt>maybe a stupid question
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08:11<kazaamjt>but did update-initramfs dissappear?
08:11<kazaamjt>I'm trying debian 10
08:11<kazaamjt>and the man pages exist
08:11<kazaamjt>but
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08:11<EmleyMoor>It still exists... Check PATH
08:11<bbird>0
08:12<kazaamjt>"bash: update-initramfs: command not found"
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08:13<supaman>kazaamjt: try /usr/sbin/update-initramfs
08:13<jmcnaught>kazaamjt: stop using 'su' with no arguments to become root. Buster's su changed, you need to use 'su -l' to get root's PATH.
08:13<jmcnaught>!buster su
08:13<dpkg>The <su> command changed in buster: it no longer overrides the PATH variable. See https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster#Changes for workarounds.
08:14<kazaamjt>yeah that's gonna be it
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08:14<kazaamjt>ok so su -l
08:14<kazaamjt>got it, thanks guy
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08:48<Guest7877>What's a good way, if I want to find and replace a given sequence of characters if it occurs within a column of a database (mariadb/mysql)?
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08:52<GyrosGeier>Postgres has regex support, presumably they have something similar
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08:54<Guest7877>I can SELECT nick FROM rosterusers WHERE nick LIKE '% (F)%'; and that shows me 565 entries. What I actually want to do is change the (F) to (FB)
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08:56<Guest7877>Hmmm... my nickname has wandered off
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09:01<EmleyMoor>Hopefully that's sortehd it
09:01<EmleyMoor>sorted *
09:01<kavan>Hi EmleyMoor
09:01<kavan>Updated to new kernel ?
09:01<EmleyMoor>Still, back to the mysql thing
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09:02<EmleyMoor>kavan: I'm all up to date on all boxen now
09:02<wolfmannight>cool
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09:03<wolfmannight>EleyMoor: You run your all linux on VM ?
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09:04<EmleyMoor>wolfmannight: No, five physical boxen and 1 VM
09:05<wolfmannight>hmm.... cause vm bound linux hands, and debian is beast when unleashed out of VM.
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09:06<EmleyMoor>Indeed. I keep 1 VM tracking testing, the physicals all track stable unless we're in a freeze and I've updated early
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09:13<wolfmannight>I'm trying snaps and flatpak... look like flatpak is more stable then snaps
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10:36<Guest7883>hello i need assistance
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10:37<Vergo>!ask
10:37<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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10:38<Guest7883>i have a problem with picture quality am running on parrot OS, are there any drivers that can fix this?
10:41<EmleyMoor>!parrot
10:41<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrotsec on Freenode, the community pages https://docs.parrotsec.org/community, or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
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13:32<EmleyMoor>When a package is in "experimental", what processes does it have to go through to reach at least sid?
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13:33<bremner>EmleyMoor: re-upload
13:33<bremner>i.e. manual
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13:34<nikos>EmleyMoor: It's up to the discretion of the maintainer. There's probably a reason they uploaded to experimental and not sid.
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13:34<EmleyMoor>Hmmm...
13:34<bremner>sometimes people forget to re-upload
13:34<bremner>if it's been there a long time, you could file a wishlist bug
13:35<bremner>I guess this is more on-topic in #debian-next
13:35<petn-randall>EmleyMoor: Which package is it?
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13:36<EmleyMoor>gajim 1.1.3-1
13:37<nikos>Uploaded in April, speculation but I'd say it's in experimental because of the freeze at the time.
13:38<bremner>yep, many maintainers (including me) have not re-uploaded things after the freeze
13:39<bremner>but if you are running sid anyway, just install the version from experimental
13:40<EmleyMoor>I'm not, but I am checking its installability in bustel
13:40<EmleyMoor>buster
13:40<bremner>well, that's not very supported in general.
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13:41<EmleyMoor>bremner, Indeed it isn't...
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13:43<EmleyMoor>However in this case every dependency is met
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13:49<petn-randall>EmleyMoor: It's safer to rebuild it yourself.
13:49<petn-randall>!ssb
13:49<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) apt update; apt install build-essential; apt build-dep packagename 4) apt -b source packagename 5) dpkg -i packagename-ver.deb To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
13:50*petn-randall has already got a bug report that his packages hasn't been updated, despite buster being already released for a week.
13:54<sqrt{not}>yeah, when will bullseye be released ???? when will testing be named "stinkypete" ?
13:55<EmleyMoor>petn-randall, It doesn't need building, per se, being an "all" arcitectures passage
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13:58<EmleyMoor>It remains to be seen whether it fixes the problem or not
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13:59<EmleyMoor>(the trigger will happen at an unknown time)
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14:03<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... there's a black bar on my screen...
14:03<EmleyMoor>In this case it seems to be something to do with WhatsApp
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15:59<Lars>Evening
16:01<Lars>Im having trouble installing debian 10 on a thinkpad x250 in uefi mode, im manually installing it with a ESP partition and boot partition but no progress. Are there any bugs im not aware of?
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16:04<EmleyMoor>I just did it with a straight installer on an X131e last week
16:05<Lars>Straight installer as in guided?
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16:05<EmleyMoor>As in nothing special. What are you booting from?
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16:06<Lars>Netinstall debian 10 usb stick
16:07<Lars>No packages besides standard (want minimal packages)
16:07<EmleyMoor>OK... So, what's going wrong?
16:08<Lars>Installer works fine, its during boot when it just goes black without any secure boot warnings or anything, im just getting into the thinkpad "bios" screen where you pick where to boot from
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16:09<Lars>Isnt creating an unencrypted esp partition, an unencrypted boot partition enough to make it work (as in boot) or have i missed some efibootmgr step perhaps? Couldnt see anything in the documentation about it
16:09<EmleyMoor>... And nothing from there?
16:11<EmleyMoor>I always start with Guided setup then amend it to my needs, what you're doing is probably a bit more complicated
16:11<Lars>Been googling it since release, just trying to find a solution or someone with a similar issue
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16:12<Lars>It really isnt that complicated EmleyMoor, its just manual partitioning and nothing else, secure boot on is the big difference, i dont have to sign things myself
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16:14<Lars>When mounting the esp partition, it looks different though, /EFI/debian/ and BOOTX64.CSV and a shimx64.efi file ive seen bootx64.efi before but it isnt there
16:15<Lars>Thinking something might be missing in the esp partition and lenovos implementation of uefi isnt properly done
16:17<Lars>Would appreciate any input as i'll have to revert back to Ubuntu if i cant make it work :/
16:17<lupine>worked fine on my T470p, but I've not touched an x250 in ever
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16:17<jmcnaught>Lars: I installed Debian 10 to a T450s a few weeks ago in UEFI mode, but without secure boot. I set it to UEFI only (no CSM) in the firmware beforehand, but that probably wasn't necessary
16:17<lupine>if ubuntu works, debian will too
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16:18<Lars>Guided install jmcnaught? Did you enable secure boot afterwards?
16:18<Lars>Ive done the same, uefi only and no csm
16:19<jmcnaught>Lars: no I have not turned on secure boot. I used guided partitioning.
16:20<jmcnaught>Lars: did you install from USB? Did you copy the installer image to the /dev/sdX or to /dev/sdX1?
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16:21<Lars>The installer is always copied using dd to /dev/sdx and i can see im in uefi installer mode at the gui screen when booting it
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16:23<Lars>Made two different usbs just incase, same results
16:26<Lars>Next would be to try the guided installation again and not touching anything i guess, and figure out if that works and what the difference with it is
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16:29<Lars>You would think that three partitions, esp/efi not touched, a boot partition unencrypted and a luks partition for /root should work, oh well thanks for your input
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16:30<jmcnaught>Lars: yeah I would expect that to work. You could try disabling secure boot for the process of elimination as well.
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16:31<Lars>Will do jmcnaught, guessing not many people have commented on secure boot yet?
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16:34<jmcnaught>Lars: not a lot but for what it's worth I just turned secure boot on on my t450 and debian 10 booted up okay
16:36<Lars>Ouch, now i wont be able to get any rest before ive solved it :D
16:39<sqrt{not}>Lars: if you haven't already look at https://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot and https://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot/Discussion
16:40<Lars>Will do again
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16:42<jmcnaught>Lars: if you're in the installer, when it gets to the part at the end where GRUB is installed try switching to tty4, there may be messages there.
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16:47<Lars>Will do, i could be missing something for sure
16:47<Lars>Will get back to you if it works, thanks for now
16:48<jmcnaught>Good luck :)
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16:48<jhutchins_wk>I still think the best advice is "turn secureboot off".
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16:49<Lars>No point using uefi then, i might as well go back to legacy and use an encrypted boot partition or boot from a usb stick as i normally do
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16:50<jmcnaught>Lars: is your laptop's storage NVMe? I think people have had problems with that. SATA here.
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16:50<Lars>I have both variants jmcnaught, on this computer its a SATA, x250 model is that old :D
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16:51<Lars>No m2 or nvme hocus pocus interfaces
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16:56<Lars>Have a nice evening guys and gals, Lars out
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17:00<Kippers>Has any of you had trouble with steam on bullseye? I tried opening it on my fresh install and just got a message saying "couldn't connect to the steam network"
17:01<petn-randall>,v steam
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17:01<judd>No package named 'steam' was found in amd64.
17:01<petn-randall>,v steam --architecture i386
17:01<judd>(versions <pattern> [--arch <amd64>] [--release <stable>]) -- Show the available versions of a package in the optionally specified release and for the given architecture. All current releases and amd64 are searched by default. By default, binary packages are searched; prefix the packagename with "src:" to search source packages.
17:01<petn-randall>,v steam --arch i386
17:01<judd>Package: steam on i386 -- jessie/non-free: 1.0.0.49-1; stretch/non-free: 1.0.0.54-2; bullseye/non-free: 1.0.0.59-4; buster/non-free: 1.0.0.59-4; sid/non-free: 1.0.0.61-2
17:01<petn-randall>three time's the charm
17:02<noln>bullseye would be #debian-next
17:02<petn-randall>Kippers: You could ask in #debian-next, maybe someone has already solved the problem there.
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17:02<petn-randall>Though I'm guessing it's just not compiled against the newer libs, and fails over that.
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17:08<Kippers>Ok, I'll try that
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17:13<annadane>!wwbur
17:13<dpkg>Bullseye?! GO AWAY!! I've just finished releasing Buster!
17:13<annadane>i hope you all like my factoid i added earlier today :P
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17:28<petn-randall>nice
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20:28<thatguymeho>ok here is what i am looking for the sound even at max seems a little too low
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20:31<ryouma>me too
20:31<ryouma>on some sites
20:32<thatguymeho>yea like netflix
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20:40<thatguymeho>so anyone on volume issue
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20:42<petn-randall>thatguymeho: You can crank it over 100% in pavucontrol.
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23:31<Psyndrome>Hi
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23:34<Psyndrome>Is anyone have a clue how can i prevent this (Recent Documents) application of doing what it is or even remove it may be
23:34<Psyndrome>?
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23:37<jmcnaught>Psyndrome: which desktop environment are you using? Does it have a privacy section to its settings?
23:39<Psyndrome>Im using MATE and theres even no access to its menu settings for some reason is missing
23:39<Psyndrome>im also using some application called dconf editor for my settings but i couldnt find anything about that
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