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---Logopened Tue Jul 23 00:00:20 2019
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00:08<toor>大家好
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00:09<luizromario>Hello
00:09<luizromario>Is anyone here able to resize gnome applications in KDE?
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00:17<simonpatapon>hello, i can easely mount my phone with gnome nautilus, but i want to mount it with cli so can copy lots of file easely
00:17<simonpatapon>using nautilus to back never ends
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00:23<twb>simonpatapon: nautilus is a front end to the software called "gvfs".
00:23<twb>simonpatapon: the easy answer is to make sure "gvfs-fuse" is installed.
00:24<twb>simonpatapon: then, you can mount and unmount with nautilus, but access from the CLI
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00:24<simonpatapon>where are the mount points of gvfs-fuse, i dont see it with $mount
00:24<simonpatapon>thx by the way
00:25<twb>simonpatapon: run "mount" and hopefully it will say
00:25<twb>I think it is something like /run/user/1000/gvfs
00:25<twb>And then under than is a directory for the phone
00:25<twb>Also, I have not tried this recently, so I may be wrong about some details
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00:28<simonpatapon>thx twb exactly /run/user/1000/gvfs i see mtp:host phone
00:29<twb>awesome
00:29<twb>you should be able to do things like cp and rsync to that
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00:33<simonpatapon>now gnome-term freezes
00:33<simonpatapon>i guess ill let that work over night
00:33<simonpatapon>lol
00:33<twb>simonpatapon: yuk. I would have done a small test copy first
00:34<twb>simonpatapon: it should only have "frozen" the cp, not all of gnome-terminal
00:34<simonpatapon>i cant open new tabs and got a kill or wail window
00:34<twb>simonpatapon: if you need to bypass gvfs entirely, you can see that the underlying protocol here is "mtp". mtp doesn't normally "mount" at all, it's more like HTTP. You can find an MTP client by looking for things that use libmtp.
00:34<simonpatapon>anyway lets wait
00:35<twb>mtp-tools looks like the CLI client
00:36<twb>Your other option is (if you're lucky) to put the device into "USB mass storage" mode, where your computer can see the phone's underlying FAT filesystem and access it directly. This is nicer for the computer, but the phone hates it, which is why MTP is the default nowadays
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00:36<twb>At least some Samsung Galaxy phones supported that
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00:53<Passerby>I have had luck with simple-mtpfs. It is not in the repos but is easy to install. https://github.com/phatina/simple-mtpfs
00:55<twb>Passerby: that appears to be a fuse wrapper for libmtp. So similar approach to gvfs + gvfs-fuse, but simplified :-)
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03:33<marcus>hi all. i have a question concerning pin priorities. is it possible to define something like Package: npm node* in pinning prefs?
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03:40<jm_>apparently yes, see example in man apt_preferences → Package: gnome* /kde/
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04:03<twb>And if it wasn't, you could always use two separate stanzas
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05:57<GyrosGeier>\o/
05:58<GyrosGeier>does anyone remember how to tell screen not to close a window when the program terminates?
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05:59<twb>GyrosGeier: defzombie kr
06:00<GyrosGeier>thanks
06:02<GyrosGeier>lol
06:02<GyrosGeier>the manpage explains "zombie" and notes that it should be called "defzombie"
06:03<twb>GyrosGeier: ah sorry
06:03<twb>I actually have "zombie kr onerror"
06:04<GyrosGeier>mmh
06:04<GyrosGeier>seems to have worked, I just tested with a new shell and "exit 1"
06:04<useretail>hey guys, imagine that i have two normal users in my system: "me" and "someuser"
06:04<useretail>user "me" was added to group "someuser" using following command: usermod -a -G idol a
06:04<useretail>and there is a folder with a log file.
06:04<useretail>both are owned by "someuser" and have following rights: drwxrwxr-x, rwxrwxr-x
06:04<useretail>when user "me" tries to delete the log file, i'm getting error about insufficient rights
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06:05<useretail>*command is usermod -a -G somegrp me
06:06<useretail>*usermod -a -G someuser me
06:06<GyrosGeier>useretail, deleting a file requires write permissions to the containing directory
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06:07<useretail>GyrosGeier, i have them: drwxrwxr-x
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06:08<GyrosGeier>have you logged in since then?
06:08<useretail>GyrosGeier, sure
06:08<twb>useretail: gruop membership does not take effect until your next login
06:08<GyrosGeier>group membership is given to the process at login time, and is inherited by all new processes
06:08<twb>Run "id" to verify
06:08<useretail>twb, is there a way to refresh without re-login?
06:09<GyrosGeier>sg, if the group has a password
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06:09<GyrosGeier>maybe "su - me"
06:09<twb>no
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06:09<GyrosGeier>but I'm not sure if that works
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06:10<court>hi
06:10<court>who are there
06:10<twb>GyrosGeier: it probably will but it's also likely to cause other weirdness (e.g. X, dbus)
06:10<twb>GyrosGeier: which is why my simple answer is just "no, you have to log out and back in"
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06:10<court>who can help m
06:10<court>e
06:11<useretail>twb, GyrosGeier thx for clarification guys
06:11<twb>court: you have to describe the problem first
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06:13<Synthea>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=928961 This bug is solved in buster?
06:13<judd>Bug https://bugs.debian.org/928961 in kdevelop (open): «[kdevelop] kdevelop calls incorrectly konsole and gdb, resulting in debugging failure»; severity: normal; opened: 2019-05-14; last modified: 2019-05-14.
06:15<twb>Synthea: the page you linked to should say if it is
06:15<Synthea>twb, ?
06:16<twb>Synthea: I don't know if you have eyes, but there is a diagram in the top-right of different versions. They are all red, so none of them are fixed. One is labelled "stable", which is Debian 10 buster.
06:17<Synthea>twb, I've never understood until now what this diagram means
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06:18<twb>Here is one that is fixed, for comparison
06:18<twb>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/version.cgi?package=kdevelop;info=1;fixed=kdevelop%2F4%3A3.3.4-1;collapse=1;absolute=0
06:19<Synthea>twb, maybe they've not fixed it because they found another way? Can you write text in kdevelop running window now?
06:19<twb>no idea
06:19<twb>I don't use GUI stuff
06:20<twb>(Also it's past my bedtime)
06:20<Synthea>:(
06:20<Synthea>twb oh sorry
06:20<twb>no worries
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06:33<Synthea>twb tried new kdevelop in an schroot and it seems to work, can someone test it out?
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06:44<EmleyMoor>Is there fully modular hardware (i.e. where the motherboard is basically just a solid wiring loom) in any 64 bit architecture supported by buster available new at present?
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06:57<tonarch-2019>Trying to install buster to a laptop that previously had stretch, messed up and don't know where. After (sucessful?) installing, on the screen: Started Gnome display manager. /n Resuming from hybernation /n fsckd-cancel-mmessg: Press Ctrl+C to cancel
06:57<tonarch-2019>and just hangs there, for hours
06:58<tonarch-2019>and Ctrl+C doesn't do anything
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07:02<GyrosGeier>The "resuming from hibernation" is early boot and can be ignored
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07:03<tonarch-2019>This is good to know, but I don't know what to do from here
07:03<GyrosGeier>the idea is that it would print "resuming from hibernation", start the resume process, and if there is nothing to resume from, that line would get overwritten soon
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07:04<GyrosGeier>but it has to be output before starting the resume, because we don't get another chance afterwards
07:05<GyrosGeier>my suspicion is that gdm is not getting Wayland up, which is now default
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07:05<tonarch-2019>Right after "resuming ..." it jumps to the next message on the screen about fsckd
07:06<tonarch-2019>should I reinstall and not select Gnome, only default to avoid the problem
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07:07<jm_>you could also try booting to non-graphical target
07:08<jm_>i.e. pass systemd.unit=multi-user.target
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07:10<tonarch-2019>From there I would not know how to fix it from console, I know my way around, but not to mess with booting etc, unless i can get detailed how-to
07:11<tonarch-2019>I did the installation from usb stick with DVD1, but I read that if installing from usb stick you may have problems later at booting
07:11<jm_>a) it's just a test, b) you can always login on console and start a tty IRC client to join #debian
07:11<tonarch-2019>(read it in the installation manual)
07:13<tonarch-2019>ok, will try that, in the mean time I can keep this connection alive from the desktop, while try to fix the laptop issue. Thx jm_ and GyrosGeier
07:13<jm_>ahh if you have another computer it's even easier
07:14<tonarch-2019>Yes, I am rtyping this from the desktop, in Polari, also my replicant is opened from hexchat
07:15<tonarch-2019>laptop is near in the same room
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07:25<tonarch-2019>Is going to take a little longer, i went the route of reinstalling from usb stick. This time will use only one partition for all (saw something about the loader and partitions0, will see. No gnome this time.
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07:28<tonarch-2019>jm_, what would be the best way to avoid the possible wayland issue that you mentioned? I remember having some issue with the laptop and budgie in stretch, could have been wayland, not sure now
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07:29<jm_>tonarch-2019: you could try switching to a different DE, or look in bugs if someone reported the same thing - but first thing is to identify the problem
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07:30<tonarch-2019>DE? please clarify meaning
07:31<tonarch-2019>desktop environment?
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07:32<jm_>yes
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07:36<GyrosGeier>gdm can be switched to use X11 instead of Wayland
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08:05<tonarch-2019>It froze again at "Resuming from hybernation", this time no fsckd
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08:08<tonarch-2019>so, the GUI should be activated from tty1, I just switched to tty2 and the system is operating
08:09<tonarch-2019>After logging what should I look for, fix?
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08:17<tonarch-2019>Installing now lxde and lxdm, will see if it fixes and report back. Does someone check for this kind of reports in the logs or should I report the issue some other way?
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08:24<EmleyMoor>I need to run a nightly build of gajim, and have installed it and a matching python-nbxmpp locally, but it fails to run, thus: http://paste.debian.net/1092741/ - what do I need to do?
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08:28<tyler-2>I've got questions re: NVidia proprietary drivers, GLVND, and Debian... Primarily... It doesn't seem like (on Debian testing) that one is supposed to use bumblebee/primus with GLVND. I've got an Intel/Nvidia laptop that I'm setting up again, and I'm not sure whether the "old" way of primusrun and the non-glvnd drivers is the right way... or if GLVND is the new hotness. I can't find anything about actually
08:28<tyler-2>_using_ GLVND, from the perspective of the user.
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08:36<luna_>Joining the MariaDB/MySQL on Debian BoF first this morning
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08:55<simonpatapon>can i re write imported filesystem in shotwell to have a new FS date/file?
08:56<tyler-2>simponpatapon: I use `exiftool` for stuff like that.
08:56<tyler-2>#Write create-date based on Y-m-d folder.
08:56<tyler-2> exiftool -s -G '-CreateDate<Directory' -d '%Y-%m-%d' -r *
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08:57<simonpatapon>will check thx!!!
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08:59<vezult>I get a crazy certificate error when attempting to use gtalk in empathy, following an upgrade to buster.
08:59<vezult>https://pasteboard.co/IpjenLb5.png
08:59<vezult>seems to indicate that it is not doing SNI.
09:00<vezult>is this a known issues?
09:00<vezult>and are there any workarounds?
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09:06<vezult>same behavior between a manually created account and a GOA account
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09:22<supaman>vezult: users from ubuntu are having the same issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/1801429
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09:22<supaman>vezult: I suggest filing this as a bug against empathy
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09:23<supaman>vezult: but looking at the tracker for empathy, doesn't seem to be much activity on this package
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09:53<psyndrome>Hello
09:54<psyndrome>What should i do when grub loader do not display all of the operating systems installed?
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10:08<Synthea>psyndrome, take a look at arch wiki and make your config scripts yourself, if os-prober doesn't work
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10:30<piper>Or apt purge os-prober make a 40_custom (/etc/grub.d) update-grub, that way you have control
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10:31<psyndrome>I was actually wrong the grub loader is just listing one but then another list is shown so all the os are reachable
10:32<psyndrome>but thanks for the advice anyway
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10:33<piper>no matter what linux system you use, a 40_custom (can be named different) grub is the best way to go
10:34<piper>os-prober is always one of the first things I purge
10:35<psyndrome>I have no intention to mess with anything after all is working by default
10:36<psyndrome>I just panic at the first time cause it didnt listed one of the systems but in fact its reachable
10:36<psyndrome>So im ok
10:36<psyndrome>thanks again
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10:36<piper>However, I don't recommend new users to do this without reading a how to :)
10:36<piper>there are many out there, most are spot on :)
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10:37<psyndrome>Yes your right im lazy i have to read more before i ask :D
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10:40*piper did not say you are lazy :)
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10:43<psyndrome>yes you didnt
10:43<piper>ah, but i misread :( you didn't either
10:45<psyndrome>The display is working just fine without installing nvidia driver i wonder is it better to just leave it that way
10:46<psyndrome>I think its using vdpau right now or something
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14:37<sim590>Can I tell linux at what percentage of the battery it should switch on the second battery (on a thinkpad t460s)? I have this issue where linux doesn't quite understand that the first battery is empty and doesn't switch before it turns off.
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14:46<Vergo>sim590: a quick google search suggests that disabling upower may help
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15:22<sim590>Vergo: Ah yeah? What's the explanation? Can you provide me with the link you found?
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15:26<cesko5335>Hi
15:26<sim590>My google search sent to to lenovo forums where some people concluded ended up changing the battery and reported that the problem was "fixed", but it seems to me that my battery si functionning "well". At least, I think that it's something about the battery capacity that is not well computed and that could be circumvented with the usage of a higher threshold to trigger battery switch (if all
15:26<sim590>that I'm saying is making sense).
15:26<cesko5335>I tried installing ubuntu server 18.04 LTS, but i have error on step 11/13
15:26<cesko5335>(installing)
15:26<cesko5335>Could not prepare Boot variable: No such file or directory
15:26<cesko5335>grub-install: error: efibootmgr failed to register the boot entry: Input/output error
15:27<cesko5335>any tip? :-/
15:27<sqrt{not}>!ubuntu
15:27<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
15:27<coruja>!ubuntu
15:28<coruja>sqrt{not}, you won ;)
15:28<Vergo>sim590: this is the discussion I found: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Other-Linux-Discussions/How-to-get-dual-battery-to-switch-without-powering-off-in-Linux/td-p/3890605
15:29<sqrt{not}>!ubuntuirc
15:29<dpkg>This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
15:29<cesko5335>ty
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15:33<tyler-2>Which NVidia proprietary driver setup is currently "best" on a primus/bumblebee laptop?
15:33<tyler-2>GLVND or primus/bumblebee?
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15:33<tyler-2>And... how the heck are you supposed to even use GLVND.
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15:35<amacater>@tyler: primus/bumblebee, I think. Install a minimal system text only, using the expert option. DO NOT install a windowing environment at this stage. Add contrib and non-free then install the Nvidia drivers
15:35<amacater>THEN install the windows environment using tasksel to select it.
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15:36<tyler-2>Why the specificity there, I wonder?
15:37<amacater>If you accidentally install the windowing environment first, you may end up being unable to uninstall the free drivers / end up with lock ups in hardware
15:37<tyler-2>I'm bothered by this when installing primus/bumblebee:
15:37<tyler-2>The following packages will be REMOVED:
15:37<tyler-2> libgl1-nvidia-glvnd-glx libgl1-nvidia-glvnd-glx:i386 nvidia-driver-libs nvidia-vulkan-common nvidia-vulkan-icd
15:37<amacater>[been there, done this :( ]
15:37<tyler-2>I've already got the GLVND setup but... as possibly expected, GL seems to only use my Intel card.
15:38<tyler-2>Which makes me feel like either I'm doing something wrong with GLVND, or it's not yet ready for primetime.
15:38<amacater>Sounds about right - if you can, do it as above and see if it works for you ...
15:38<tyler-2>Thanks for reply amacater
15:38<amacater>I wasted a couple of days doing multiple installs to try and get this to work - your mileage may vary :D
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15:50<sim590>Vergo: Thanks. I'll check further into it
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15:56<tonarch-2019-replicant>Does debian live have a separate channel, or is ok to post here?
15:57<Vergo>I recall there's #debian-live
15:58<tonarch-2019-replicant>Thanks, hmm
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16:00<tonarch-2019-replicant>Well, I couldn't make work GUI with the regular buster installation in my HP laptop. However, debian-live worked fine. Thanks to the debian and debian-live team.
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16:01<tonarch-2019-replicant>But whatever the live team did should be replicated by the regular installer. The question I have is: How do i become root after a live installation to hard disk?
16:01<tonarch-2019-replicant>It never asked me for root account password.
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16:02<dboles>then maybe root simply has no password? how have you tried to become root, and what was the result?
16:02<jmcnaught>tonarch-2019-replicant: did you use the installer from the live iso?
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16:02<tonarch-2019-replicant>yeap, the cinnamon with firmware. Previously, the regular one with firmware didn't work
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16:03<yanal>test
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16:04<tonarch-2019-replicant>No matter what I tried, loading firmware from separate media, or included, didn't work the regular one (amd64). Since I knew that ubuntu live worked, I decided to try debian live (cinnamon firmware version) and it worked super. BUT, I would like to know how I can become root.
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16:05<dboles>what have you tried, and why did it not work
16:05<tonarch-2019-replicant>su followed by enter
16:06<dboles>and, what happened?
16:06<tonarch-2019-replicant>because I was never asked for a password for root; and when tried apt-get install someting as the user, it didn't let me.
16:06<dboles>anyway, googled 'debian live root password' real quick, so try this https://openwritings.net/pg/debian/debian-live-system-passwords
16:06<tonarch-2019-replicant>It told me wrong password
16:07<tonarch-2019-replicant>great, thanks, will try that
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16:15<tonarch-2019-replicant>It worked, with the difference that I used the user and password created during installation, the rest the same. Thanks.
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16:17<dboles>cool
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16:26<sqrt{not}>The new live images have the "Calamares" installer, as opposed to the regular old installer we're all used to.
16:28<sqrt{not}>I think on the live images, they talk about "install from desktop, using Calamares" , and still have the old installer maybe in the boot options
16:30<tonarch-2019-replicant>yes, they use calamares, that could have been the reason, no idea
16:31*medicalwei installed someone's laptop with Calamares, but in a VM, the same way highvoltage demoed
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16:31<medicalwei>despite of lack of choices, I like the simplicity though
16:31<tonarch-2019-replicant>the only problem now is cleaning all language environments it installed, is there a package to it automatically?
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16:32<tonarch-2019-replicant>(to do it)
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16:39<sqrt{not}>note that calamares in buster is 3.2.4-3, probably vulnerable to CVE-2019-13178. testing and unstable have the fixed version
16:39<piper>tonarch-2019-replicant: next time use the very bottom line for root in Calamares, I have not used debian's live so don't know if it is possible or how they have it, if not, ignore this, but a screenshot
16:39<piper>http://piper-sid.net/myshit/linux/images/install.png
16:41<piper>I normally don't use gui's for install, but still have to test, I like installing from cli
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16:42<jhutchins_wk>Bugtracker says it's vulnerable but unimportant.
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16:43<sqrt{not}>calamares.io describes it as "This may allow unprivileged users to obtain the decryption keys for encrypted disks."
16:44<jmcnaught>https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#calamares-creates-readable-key
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17:05<tonarch-2019-replicant>Thanks piper, i did an update upgrade of the system, I suppose that all vulnerabilities are fixed after that
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17:06<tonarch-2019-replicant>thanks sqrt{not} and jmnaught and all
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17:17<Nabbo>Hi, anyone can speak italian?
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17:26<Guest8202>hello
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17:28<Guest8202>I just had a quick question. Does anyone know if it does possible to upgrade directly from Debian 8 to Debian 10?
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17:28<jmcnaught>Guest8202: no, you must upgrade to Debian 9 first.
17:29<jmcnaught>Guest8202: It's recommended that you read the release notes which have upgrade instructions and things to be aware of.
17:29<Guest8202>thanks jmcnaught. I will do that.
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17:54<pron>any tips on how to replace packages from one repo with packages from another one, even with lover versions?
17:55<pron>have machine wich had some 3rd party repos added and there are bunch of packages that were installed form there with newer versions
17:55<pron>i want to revert that
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17:57<jmcnaught>!partial downgrade
17:57<dpkg>This may or may not work for you, but if you've got nothing to lose then try it: (a) change sources.list (b) aptitude update (c) aptitude and then search for the upgraded packages, hit enter on them, select the correct version (d) do the same for libc6 (e) search for broken packages by pressing "b" and then fix them in the same way (f) once you have no more broken packages, hit 'g'. See <not available>.
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17:58<pron>do i have to pin anything ?
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18:06<pron>jmcnaught: not realy clear how to search for upgraded packages
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18:12<jmcnaught>pron: I usually use aptitude on the CLI, but I would try a search expression like '?narrow(?installed, ?not(?version(CURRENT)))' (shortform: '~S ~i !~VCURRENT')
18:12<jmcnaught>!not available
18:12<dpkg>To get a list of packages you have installed now, that are not available from any repository in your sources.list: aptitude search '?narrow(?not(?archive("^[^n][^o].*$")),?version(CURRENT))'
18:13<jmcnaught>pron: you could also try '?narrow(?installed, ?not(?origin(debian)))'
18:13<pron>hmm il try
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18:31<pron>jmcnaught: thx wasnt too pleasant experience since i am not familiar with aptitude ui, but did the trick
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18:57<busch>Is there something wrong with apt right now? Err:19 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 libssh2-1 amd64 1.8.0-2.1 File has unexpected size (116364 != 139772). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: 151.101.12.204 80]
18:59<petn-randall>busch: Maybe there's a mirror sync in progress ... Try again to see if it persists.
19:00<busch>petn-randall, The error is there since 30 minutes
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19:12<coruja>,v libssh2
19:12<judd>No package named 'libssh2' was found in amd64.
19:13<coruja>ah, missed the -1
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19:35<i5513>after install logsave, and recreating initrd, it worked :)
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19:56<nahualt>hola
19:57<nahualt>alguien que me ayude a recuperar mi pendrivers que no se reconoce
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20:00<sarnold>nahualt: there's a #debian-es that may be more useful
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20:01<nahualt>speake spanish
20:01<sarnold>exactly :) #debian-es can speak spanish :)
20:01<nahualt>than you
20:02<sarnold>de nada :D
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20:47<laptop>Hi I have i3 three gb memory, for some reason my computer stops working when I add more ram, do not want to buy a new computer, I am wondering should I go with 32 bit over 64 bit, will I be able to open more webpages at one time
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21:03<laptop>hi
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21:05<nevyn>laptop: 'stops working' how
21:05<free4fun>does the motherboard support more RAM?
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21:09<laptop>computer shuts off, motherboard support 8gb ram, I gave it more thought and I think 64 bit is more worth it for the security features, 32 bit is less secure and slower
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21:29<ResidentAlien>laptop, does the machine make beeps before shutting off?
21:33<laptop>no
21:33<laptop>I took out the 2gb memory module switched to 1gb and it does fine
21:34<ResidentAlien>are you trying both chips together and thats when it doesnt work?
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21:37<free4fun>are you shure the 2GB memory card isnt broken?
21:38<sarnold>or perhaps wasn't seated all the way?
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21:44<laptop>no it worked fine on the other computer
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21:44<laptop>I like my i3 first gen, it is old but better than a dualcore laptop
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22:32<Fraggle>do I have to sign the nvidia proprietary kernel module manually with uefi?
22:33<Fraggle>no automated process?
22:33<Fraggle>and if so, can someone help me with this, I have no luck yet
22:35<silver>are you building the module with the NVIDIA installer or through apt?
22:35<Fraggle>apt
22:36<Fraggle>i am trying to make the 390 legacy driver work
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22:39<silver>https://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/390.25/README/installdriver.html
22:39<silver>https://gist.github.com/Garoe/74a0040f50ae7987885a0bebe5eda1aa
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22:40<Fraggle>I had no luck with the sign-file script
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22:43<silver>yeah i wasnt sure if they got that working from reading the comments.
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22:46<silver>im looking through /usr/share/doc/nvidia-legacy-390xx-kernel-source/README.Debian.gz to see if there is any specific information
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22:53<Fraggle>seems to have worked now after altering the sign-script call
22:53<Fraggle>I'll reboot and try
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22:55<Fraggle>silver: works now :)
22:56<silver>awesome
22:56<Fraggle>but it is little strange, that I have to sign the kernel module manually
22:57<silver>perhaps it will be worked out in the future
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