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#debian IRC Logs for 2019-07-26

---Logopened Fri Jul 26 00:00:24 2019
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00:12-!-kts is "kts" on #debian-xfce #debian-offtopic #debian-kde #debian-next #debian
00:12<midngith>Hi. How can I disable ipv6 please? Ipv6 still leaks after ignoring in the network manager
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01:06<nezZario>Holy smokes libapt is a unholy beast
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01:39<Passerby>For building a package from source as closely as possible to the original, are these the right commands: apt source pkg ; cd $d ; dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc
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01:39<raph>.
01:39<petn-randall>Passerby: You also need to install the build dependencies.
01:39<petn-randall>!ssb
01:39<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) apt update; apt install build-essential; apt build-dep packagename 4) apt -b source packagename 5) dpkg -i packagename-ver.deb To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
01:40<petn-randall>Passerby: These are the steps when you're backporting from sid. ^^^
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01:42<Passerby>petn-randall: Thank you. I suppose "apt -b" is preferred for this particular case.
01:42<Passerby>I ask because I was testing a custom build of openbox that failed to startx.
01:42<Passerby>I decided to build the package without any patches whatsoever--exactly the way my system gets it--and startx still failed.
01:43<Passerby>Installing from the repos, however, results in a successful startx.
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02:29<ais-admin>debdog? from flightgear? is that you?
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02:32<debdog>ais-admin: well, the same debdog as on irc.flightgear.org, yes
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02:32<ais-admin>hehe small world
02:33<ais-admin>glad to see you here
02:33<debdog>ok, who are you?
02:34<ais-admin>recently CAW0003 on the flight gear channel
02:34<debdog>ot are you not a regular in #fl
02:34<debdog>ahh
02:34<debdog>hehe, o/
02:34<ais-admin>not a regular no - just a guy
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02:38<ais-admin>I contribute where I can
02:39<ais-admin>making planes mostly now
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02:44<debdog>neato. g2g, see xa leters
02:44<debdog>*ya
02:45<debdog>*laters :P
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03:29<jm_>hmm is it possible to use KVM guests using bridge networking as regular user? for me virt-install fails with failed to create tun device: Operation not permitted, looking at https://wiki.debian.org/KVM#Setting_up_bridge_networking there's nothing about user managed guests, also tried interfaces file from here https://wiki.debian.org/QEMU#Host_and_guests_on_same_network
03:32<EmleyMoor-web>I am trying to work around a failure of my desktop machine and have installed claws-mail on my laptop. I have it communicating with the dovecot IMAP service but it is not picking up on all the folders. What do I need to do to fix that?
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04:45<jm_>to answer my own question, one is supposed to use qemu:///system connection for libvirt to avoid permission issues with bridge setups
04:49<Anarka>just tried virt-installer and good to see finally working to install from mirror
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06:56<drzacek>Hello there
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06:56<drzacek>I'm trying to set up my 32bit development chroot properly
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06:57<drzacek>so far works great for the makefile-style project I can compile from console, but I can\t get qtcreator to run
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06:57<drzacek>it complains about shared lib not existing, while it clearly exists
06:57<drzacek>http://paste.debian.net/1093165/ ldd output clearly shows what it needs and where to look for it
06:58<drzacek>while strace http://paste.debian.net/1093166/ clearly shows that it is NOT looking for them in those places
06:59<drzacek>in this case, the /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qtcreator directory. Which does contain said libs.
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06:59<drzacek>So I'm facing some configuration error, I need to tell my chroot to look for stuff in other dirs. Not sure how though.
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07:19<jm_>you can debug loader issues with LD_DEBUG and friends, see man ld.so.1 (I assume these are not debian built binaries)
07:20<jm_>it's «man ld.so»
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07:47<drzacek>jm_, how come? they come from debian repository, so they are debian-built, amirite?
07:50<burrows>How do I stop notification warnings about obsolete running binaries? I want this disabled for one user account (as used for my htpc), but still warn me for my main user account.
07:54<jm_>drzacek: sorry I need to run now
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08:45<drzacek>so that's what debhelper package does
08:46<GyrosGeier>debhelper does everything
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08:56<EmleyMoor>I'm running dovecot, and connecting several MUAs to it. They are all picking up on my folders, but not on the "head" INBOX contents. Why would that happen and what can I do about it?
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09:05<EmleyMoor>K-9 Mail on my phone shows "IOException: readStringUnti" under the Inbox in its folder list. What is likely to have gone wrong?
09:06<Vergo>EmleyMoor: could you clarify that "head" INBOX part? new mails don't become visible or something else?
09:06<bremner>EmleyMoor: maybe start with a desktop client, in Debian
09:07<EmleyMoor>bremner: I did - Claws Mail.
09:07<bremner>ok
09:07<bremner>and it works?
09:07<EmleyMoor>Vergo: Neither new nor old mail delivered there rather than to another folder is visible at all
09:07<EmleyMoor>bremner: No, it exhibits the same fault, but with no clue
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09:09<Vergo>EmleyMoor: at least earlier versions of dovecot had all sorts of compatibility modes available (outlook etc.) and enabled by default, if those still exist then turning those off would be my first guess for trying to change the existing behaviour
09:10<EmleyMoor>I sincerely doubt they were ever on, but I will see if I can work out how to check
09:11<Vergo>yeah, that's just a guess as I haven't seen exactly that kind of behaviour you describe
09:11<EmleyMoor>It worked just fine until I had to move my home directory entirely to the mail server as a result of a hardware failure
09:11<Vergo>the closest is android mail not noticing that old mails have been marked as read by some other client in the inbox
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09:42<EmleyMoor>Can't get a log from K-9 mail at all - so that's being no help...
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09:44<GyrosGeier>EmleyMoor, can you speak IMAP?
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09:44<GyrosGeier>as in, if you do "openssl s_connect host:993", would you know what to type?
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09:46<EmleyMoor>Probably not
09:47<EmleyMoor>Can get the mails in K-9 Mail now, but still no go in claws
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09:48<Gioans>i am a new mxlinux
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09:50<dpkg>Current MX Linux is based on Debian stretch. However, MX Linux is not supported in #debian. Seek help at https://mxlinux.org/.
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10:18<Pungent_VPS>apologies if this was posted somewhere that I'm not finding, but what happened to the ecryptfs-utils package in buster? It was in stretch, but seems to be gone now
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10:21<nahualt>hola
10:21<nahualt>hola
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10:21<nahualt>me pueden recomendar un canal en español
10:22<duclicsic>!es
10:22<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
10:22<nahualt>ya lo coloque pero me dice que no esta disponible
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10:22<nahualt>#debian-es
10:23<nahualt>ok
10:23<Vergo>Pungent_VPS: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/ecryptfs-utils
10:24<Pungent_VPS>so, there's no maintainer on the package?
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10:26<Vergo>or the maintainer has become inactive
10:26<Pungent_VPS>the code itself doesn't seem to have a lot of activity either
10:27<Vergo>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=765854 is (afaik) the reason why it didn't get included in buster
10:27<judd>Bug https://bugs.debian.org/765854 in ecryptfs-utils (open, security): «ecryptfs-utils: Private directory not automatically unmounted anymore on logout»; severity: critical; opened: 2014-10-18; last modified: 2019-01-22.
10:27<Pungent_VPS>I'm looking for a way to encrypt just a single directory. encfs has security warnings, and ecryptfs-utils is gone. What is the current suggested package for encrypting a directory in 10?
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10:32<Vergo>Pungent_VPS: in theory, you would likely be able to do a local backport of ecryptfs-utils if it doesn't have too many dependencies and the behaviour described in that bug report isn't an issue for you
10:35<blast007>,checkbackport ecryptfs-utils
10:35<judd>Backporting package ecryptfs-utils in sid→buster/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using buster.
10:35<blast007>!ssb
10:35<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) apt update; apt install build-essential; apt build-dep packagename 4) apt -b source packagename 5) dpkg -i packagename-ver.deb To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
10:36<blast007>note that you'd have to manage any security updates to said package yourself
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10:39<Vergo>blast007: what's that 'ssb' short for?
10:39<Pungent_VPS>the code repo seems to also be pretty dead at this point, afaik it's maintained by two Canonical employeees, and still used in Ubuntu, but last updates look like 2018
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10:59<Pungent_VPS>yeah I'm not going to bother with ecryptfs, even ubuntu dropped support for it citing it being undermaintained
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11:21<blast007>Vergo: "simple sid backport"
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12:02<TobiX>Pungent_VPS: There seems to be a new project with the stated mission to replace encfs: https://nuetzlich.net/gocryptfs/forward_mode_crypto/
12:03<TobiX>,v gocryptfs
12:03<judd>Package: gocryptfs on amd64 -- stretch: 1.2-2+b1; bullseye: 1.6.1-1+b20; buster: 1.6.1-1+b20; sid: 1.6.1-4
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12:16<Pungent_VPS>TobiX: thanks, yeah I found that in apt along with fscrypt, installed both, gocryptfs ended up being exactly what I was after.
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12:41<damien_>hello
12:43<damien_>can someone help me a little please?
12:43<Vergo>!ask
12:43<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
12:44<pipeman>what with?
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12:48<damien_>Im having trouble with SetLocale('en_US.UTF-8') failed. Using 'C'. You may have limited glyph support. Please install 'en_US.UTF-8' locale. I have folled instruction to edit locale.gen to remove hash before en_US.UTF-8 line then I dont know how to run locale-gen as root.
12:49<damien_>su locale-gen in terminal gives me The command could not be located because '/sbin:/usr/sbin' is not included in the PATH environment variable. error
12:50<debdog>damien_: try "su -" instead.
12:50<pipeman>cehck in sbin/usr/ is in your path
12:50<pipeman>echo $PATH
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12:51<pipeman> use export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/sbin if it is now
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12:59<damien_>im lost
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13:01<annadane>damien_, use su - to become root instead of su
13:01<annadane>pipeman, no ned to put sbin in path
13:01<annadane>s/ned/need
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13:02<Vergo>damien_: first execute 'su -' and then in the same shell 'locale-gen'
13:03<pipeman>is that 'su -' the same as 'sudo -i' ?
13:03<damien_>ah, yes that worked with the eorre
13:03<damien_>error
13:03<avu>or, you could use `dpkg-reconfigure locales` to not have to edit and then generate manually/separately
13:04<damien_>but it looks like I am still on en_AU.UTF-8
13:05<avu>-> `dpkg-reconfigure locales`
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13:07<damien_>I tried 'dpkg-recofigure locales' and have only C.UTF-8 and en_AU.UTF-8 options. No en_US.UTF-8
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13:09<avu>you may have messed something up with your previous manual attempts :/
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13:16<damien_>yes, I left a space in front of the line. Loks like it is done, now
13:16<damien_>thank you!
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13:20<damien_>success! booted twice into two different steam games and no error so far. thanks again!
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13:47<LeLutin>I'm looking for documentation about the bridge_* options that one can use in /etc/network/interfaces and can't find anything about them in interfaces(5) ... does somebody know where that documentation could be?
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13:50<jmcnaught>LeLutin: you're looking for bridge-utils-interfaces(5)
13:51<LeLutin>jmcnaught: ooh! nice thanks. /me thinks a mention of that in interfaces(5) would make a lot of sense
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13:52<LeLutin>oh hmm :\ but it's in a different package, and it's not available if you haven't installed bridge-utils
13:53<jmcnaught>LeLutin: if you have debian-goodies installed you can view man pages for not-installed packaged with debman and debmany, but don't you need bridge-utils installed to use those bridge_* options anyways?
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13:56<sarnold>you can manage bridges with iproute2 bridge(8) too; I'm not sure if that's been hooked up to ifupdown, of course, but brctl is no longer necessary/recommended
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13:57<jmcnaught>My (very simple) bridge on my desktop using systemd-networkd: https://paste.debian.net/1093218/
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13:58<sarnold>heh, I like that head -v :)
13:59<sarnold>many years ago I wrote a silly shell function to do something similar.. it's nice for showing a whole file (uses cat) but if I'd known head -v I probably wouldn't have bothered
14:00<jmcnaught>I picked head -v up from the dpkg's <show sources.list> factoid
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14:04<EmleyMoor>Is there a known misbehaviour of exim when writing to maildirs?
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14:08<coruja>EmleyMoor, check bugs.debian.org
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14:46<jhutchins_wk>EmleyMoor: I've never encountered one - but that doesn't mean anything.
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14:48<EmleyMoor>jhutchins_wk: I'm getting a permissions related failure when trying to retrieve the content of my main inbox by imap (dovecot), as it's trying to read a file that at the time is owned by root, without permission. Ownership soon changes to me.
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15:22<thejester>anyone here think linux is gayer than windows ME??
15:23<dboles>yeah and it rules
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15:23<thejester>BSD RULES
15:24<bremner>also true.
15:24<dboles>also true. did you ahve a point here?
15:24<bremner>lame troll is lame.
15:24<thejester>debian is for sissy pussy gay bois
15:24<dboles>and everyone else, yeah. your point?
15:25<dboles>are you 9?
15:25<thejester>no 37
15:25<dboles>wow.
15:25<thejester>ive a shed load of amphetamines
15:25<thejester>*had
15:26<dboles>fair enough. i hope you have a good friday and weekend!
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15:26<thejester>you to m8
15:27<thejester>unix - live free or die...
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15:29<thejester>sup mith
15:29<thejester>im fscking well bored
15:30<bremner>thejester: please take it to a different channel. #moocows welcomes your stream of conciousness
15:31<thejester>fsck right off bremner
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15:37<thejester>i really miss the-hive.i might start it again when i secure my internet access.
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15:43<blackhack>hi thier
15:43<thejester>hi bh how r u m8
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15:44<blackhack>im fin
15:45<thejester>its fscking mad hot here in the UK
15:45<blackhack>icloud bypass
15:45<thejester>ahhh
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15:45<blackhack>help
15:45<thejester>veey
15:45<thejester>very hard to do
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15:46<thejester>use a kernel zero day and manually delete the username from some list?
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15:50<thejester>do you think i give a flying fsck???
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15:51<thejester>bring it alex
15:52<thejester>i only saw you for about 7-8 seconds
15:52<thejester>me -> super-recogniser
15:52<thejester>you stink of hesitatiob
15:53<thejester>*hesitation
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15:55<thejester>one phone call alex....on my own your fsck all
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15:58<thejester>pussy..........#
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16:03<thejester>AMMONIA NITRATE IS A GOOD SUBSTITUTE FOR MOUTHWASH
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16:04<sarnold>thejester: I suspect you'd be better served on a different channel
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16:10<thejester>how random is the ASLR in windows 10??
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16:11<thejester>i got a 2 litre bottle of pepsi with your name on it alex
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16:21<jhutchins_wk>EmleyMoor: Sorry for the lag. $DAY. Dovecot is a bit obtuse to configure, especially with regard to permissions.
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16:44<LeLutin>using /etc/network/interfaces, is it possible to create an interface of type "dummy" ?
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16:50<dwfreed>LeLutin: a pre-up that creates the interface would probably work
16:50<dwfreed>worth a shot
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16:59<dajoker29a>fscking ringing my phone
16:59<dajoker29a>twats rofl
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17:01<dajoker29a>Even though I walk through the darkest valley, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.
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17:09<dajoker29a>worry once.suffer twice.
17:12<coruja>!ot
17:12<dpkg>#debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
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17:12<bremner>they've already been quieted once. I don't think reason is applicable here.
17:12<dajoker29a>well all im saying is the world of computer is a rich tapestry
17:12<dajoker29a>*science
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17:51<dajoker29a>my numbers for producing crack-cocaine are spot on
17:51<dajoker29a>£240 -> 1 1/2 ounce
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18:20<nezZario>I dont' see it as an option, i.e apt.conf Dir::Log::*
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18:31<zem0z>ue belli miei
18:31<zem0z>tutto bene?
18:31<zem0z>se non rispondete siete tutti la mia palla sinistra
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18:32<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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18:45<ggoes>hi, all. i'm not sure what i did or didn't do, as i was using buster normally and don't think i've touched anything since upgrading, but whenever update-initramfs needs to happen it complains about /sbin/fsck.luks being missing for my encrypted root partition. then, at boot, it fails to find fsck in the initramfs and there is a 90 second start job timeout, but then it keeps booting normally. am i missing
18:45<ggoes>some package? i couldn't find anything online.
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19:00<ais-admin>ggoes I found this bug which is similar but not identical to your situation. Perhaps a perusal might give you some hints: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/btrfs-tools/+bug/1499035
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19:35<LeLutin>dwfreed: thanks for the answer! ok so like I thought there's no primitive for it in the file.. so in that sense a pre-up could work..
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21:19<tom__>Hello
21:20<tom__>I have my Debian workstation on a RAID1 redundant BTRFS system, however one of the disks in the RAID1 array has died, and the system refuses the mount any volumes stored in btrfs anymore
21:21<tom__>BTRFS error (device sdb2): failed to read the system array: -5
21:21<tom__>TRFS error (device sdb2): open_ctree failed
21:21<Luticus>Hi, so I've been moving all my machines from stretch to buster and 90% of them have no issues at all, but my main desktop has an odd issue that happens very infrequently. Every now and then it'll give me an odd error that says: Message from syslogd@master at Jul 26 12:56:02 ...
21:21<Luticus>Message from syslogd@master at Jul 26 12:56:02 ...
21:21<Luticus> kernel:[226165.681289] watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#23 stuck for 23s! [kworker/23:0:6856]
21:21<tom__>Does this mean that all my data on btrfs is corrupted, despite being on a RAID1/
21:21<Luticus>stuff like that
21:21<tom__>btw, this is Debian Jessie
21:22<tom__>not buster
21:22<tom__>fsck does not fix the issue
21:22<Luticus>@tom, i've have bad luck with btrfs in the past too. Not sure about your issue but I've been burned by it before
21:23<tom__>Luticus, yes, that's why I still use OpenZFS on Linux for anything serious
21:23<tom__>but my workstation is on btrfs
21:23<Luticus>@tom, I stick with lvm and ext4 where possible
21:23<Luticus>and mdadm raid 6 arrays
21:24<tom__>I want to know if Btrfs is really so bad that it can't even handle a raid1, or if it's a simple fix
21:24<Luticus>well, you do have to realize that your version is jessie which is quite old these days, not sure what improvements have been made, but I'd hope the buster version would be better
21:25<Luticus>In my case it was a hypervisor migration and one vm didn't come back on, it was btrfs, everything else did and they were all ext4
21:25<tom__>Luticus, What are you talking about? Jessie only became oldstable like last month
21:25<Luticus>stretch is old stable last month
21:25<tom__>I'm in no hurry to upgrade, especially after how systemd breaks disk encryption
21:25<Luticus>jessie is oldoldstable
21:26<tom__>oh sorry, I meant stretch
21:26<Luticus>i'm running buster on a luks encrypted disk that was upgraded from stretch, and it's fine
21:26<tom__>not Jessie, I'm running Stretch
21:26<Luticus>no promises, but mine works
21:27<Luticus>yea, then i'm not sure, in my case i think i was on jessie
21:27<sarnold>Luticus: your soft lockup logs are probably worth a bug report; be sure to include the whole message, and if you noticed anything else funny happening at the same time
21:28<Luticus>thanks sarnold, i'll send one in
21:28<Luticus>i went to do that earlier and it told me my kernel was old and i should check if the new version fixed it, but i have the new version from buster... so i assume it means testing, but i'd prefer to stick to stable if possible :D
21:29<Luticus>just to double check, i should file that against linux-image-amd64?
21:30<tom__>any idea how to debug a filesystem?
21:30<sarnold>Luticus: I'm not too sure about debian linux kernel bugs; that sounds right, anyway
21:30<sarnold>Luticus: if someone tells you you did wrong, tell em I messed up :D
21:31<Luticus>lol no biggie :D
21:31<sarnold>tom__: probably #btrfs on irc.freenode.net will be more immediately useful.. probably folks here have done btrfs resilvering before, but .. there's a few hundred folks on #btrfs :)
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21:38<Luticus>ok bug report out, hopefully it can get fixed :D
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21:50<tom__>#btrfs on freenode doesn't let me send to it
21:51<sarnold>tom__: oh crud
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21:52<jmcnaught>tom__: are you registered with nickserv on freenode? A lot of channels there require registration due to spam and troll issues.
21:53<tom__>yeah
21:53<tom__>that' really annoying
21:53<tom__>thank you jmcnaught
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22:25<quiteone>since updating my box to Debian 10, all my lxc containers (debian 9) on 10.1.1.* can't reach the internet or even other lxc containers on the same network.
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22:26<quiteone>I didn't change the config for dnsmasq or firehol and am at a loss how to find the problem.
22:26<quiteone>Any tips welcome
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23:08<damien_>11:00 AM <damien_> Hi there. I'm looking at compiling my own installation based on my current machine but I am moving from 32bit to 64bit architecture. I'm pretty new at Linux and the command line though. Are there any good guided apps or tutorials aimed at beginners you could link me please?
23:11<jmcnaught>damien_: attempting a 'crossgrade' from i386 to amd64 is really tricky and easy to mess up, why not do a backup and reinstall?
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23:29<damien_>That's a good idea, I'll look at that. Thanks
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