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#debian IRC Logs for 2019-08-16

---Logopened Fri Aug 16 00:00:55 2019
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00:07-!-balaios is "Ivan Noleto" on #debian-devel-br #debian-br #debian-kde #debian
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00:19<gek>Hey!
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00:20<gek>Welcome to Debian IRC Siete
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00:26<gek>people are in and out today
00:26<gek>aren't they
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00:27<gek>is everybody connecting and leaving to test hexchat
00:27<gek>or...
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00:33<gek>DAMN IT WHY ARE PEOPLE CONSTANTLY CONNECTING AND LEAVING
00:34<annadane>this really isn't a support question
00:34<annadane>!chat
00:34<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
00:36<gek>Pardon.
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00:59<rob_debian>Please, is there a way that make lxterminal working with 'cursor blink' really always blinking as it was in the debian 'stretch' version ? Currently, only konsole terminal by kde maintain this good characteristic. Now, unfortunately lxterminal works with its cursor not blinking always, but only during 10 seconds (blinks 10 times) exactly like gnome terminal and mate terminal have been since its start....
01:02<gek>Yes, there is a way
01:02<gek>edit preferences
01:02<gek>then style
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01:03<rob_debian>Hi gek, thanks for answering. let me open lxterminal here and proceed like you suggest me. Thank you !
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02:05<gek>hey
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04:34<tony>Hi
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04:39<tony>Hi I'm a deb newbie (switching from Windows). I managed to ruin my installation and am trying to restore it from backup (some rsynced folders). Using a live cd didn't work very well as every time I start it I need to setup/install many things, so now I'm going with a live persistent usb stick. The issue is that after cp/dd the latest live iso to the stick, gparted and gnome(?) disks show different results.
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04:41<tony>Gparted only shows partition 2 (2.88 MiB) and the unalloc space. Disks shows both partitions, so it includes linux. Also it boots just fine. But I'd like to add the persistent storage partition. If I partition the unalloc space in Disks it actually changes and destroys the existing partitions.
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04:45<tony>Iso checksum is correct
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04:48<tony>Allocating a partition with GParted succeeds but removes the first/linux partition completely (Disks shows this)
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07:53<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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08:10<Molipate>Hi there :)
08:11<meeh_>hello
08:11<Molipate>Has any one here tried to install a chroot on debian buster ?
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08:11<meeh_>package not available...lol
08:12<Molipate>still i can find debootstrap
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08:18<meeh_>could always compile it yourself
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08:18<Molipate>will try that
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08:21<thsnr>Molipate: chroot is part of the coreutils package and is preinstalled on debian buster
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08:23<Molipate>@thsnr i checked that, it is installed, but it does not work properly ... Keep telling me "/usr/sbin/debootstrap: 235: /usr/sbin/debootstrap: grep: not found"
08:23<Molipate>had to add it to my path too ; it was hidden in /usr/sbin which was not in path ...
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08:26<Molipate>seems to work with tar.gz download from debian.org ...
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08:27<thsnr>yes, debootstrap (and chroot for that matter) are administrator binaries, which exist in /usr/sbin. sudo debootstrap should include that in your PATH and work without manual intervention
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08:30<Molipate>so it should work when using root user
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09:23<iStrive>Hi, what's up? I did a fresh install of Debian Buster on a laptop, but every reboot there is a notification "Resuming from hibernation..." what is that? I have disabled hibernation and suspend as per Debian wiki already but that message remains!
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09:29<iStrive>any idea to clear this message from my laptop?
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09:31<petn-randall>iStrive: Can you show the context of this message?
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09:34<iStrive>when I reboot the system, after the fist black screen I got some IRC error (3 lines) the the 4th line is Resuming from hibernation... even though the computer was working just fine and I ussed the reboot now command
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09:37<meeh__>run as sudo or root tail -n 500 /var/log/syslog > error.txt and paste that in pastebin
09:38<iStrive>ok let me do it now
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09:43<iStrive>here we go: https://pastebin.com/QG1jXvQr
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09:58<meeh__>llooks like we missed your shutdown
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09:58<iStrive>What you want me to do?
09:58<meeh__>well you could either shutdown then run the command right afterboot
09:59<iStrive>is 500 lines enough and should I do immediately after the reboot, sign in?
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10:01<meeh__>you can
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10:01<meeh__>increase it to 1000
10:02<meeh__>i like reading
10:02<iStrive>ok doing it now...
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10:03<iStrive>I like you sense of humor! ;)
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10:08<iStrive>this is it: https://pastebin.com/r6rTPau1
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10:12<meeh__>lol your files are very verbose..
10:12<meeh__>make it 2500
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10:12<iStrive>did you ever work in Libraries? lol I'll do it now!
10:13<meeh__>data lakes maybe..
10:15<petn-randall>Lakes/
10:15<petn-randall>?
10:17<iStrive>fresh new one: https://pastebin.com/nXhrA982
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10:20<meeh__>an ever increasing amount of focuments, data and other files that keep piling up
10:21<meeh__>documents
10:21<iStrive>and they are duking with us ;)
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10:22<iStrive>is it possible to clear then off before rebooting? then it would be only what we are looking for!
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10:26<meeh__>so you are running NSF and a webserver it looks like
10:26<iStrive>this laptop will handle pi-hole
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10:27<iStrive>and network monitoring stuff
10:27<meeh__>HP, i saw that as well
10:27<meeh__>doesnt look like anything is fataling crashing
10:28<iStrive>yes, and HP DV6 Laptop
10:28<meeh__>Gnome desktop has a few missing files, but thats not a big deal
10:28<meeh__>and by files, plugins / apps
10:28<iStrive>and I used it before with Debian Stretch, but the HDD died and I decided to upgrade to Buster since I had to redo it...
10:29<iStrive>Now I'm getting all these errors and don't know where it is coming from!
10:29<meeh__>well buster is new.. its like a first production model of a car, it runs and runs well but there will be some defects,
10:29<iStrive>is it a new bug on buster? I had gnome before and it worked fine
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10:30<meeh__>I do not think its a gnome issue
10:30<iStrive>downgrade?
10:30<meeh__>i would look at nfs / nbd
10:30<iStrive>what's nfs/nbd?
10:31<meeh__>network file system
10:31<meeh__>network file daemon
10:31<meeh__>used for NIX to NIX shares
10:31<iStrive>ok got it!
10:31<meeh__>has a long history of being buggy
10:32<iStrive>how to keep the laptop running after the lid is closed ? It's not working anymore!
10:32<meeh__>You want to disable your power preferences
10:32<meeh__>or change them
10:33<meeh__>as right now it thinks laptop closed = do something
10:34<iStrive>in power settings I only have Blank Screen 15min, but no lid related options
10:34<iStrive>am I missing any package for that ?
10:34<meeh__>as root or sudo try editing /etc/systemd/logind.conf
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10:35<meeh__>then edit or add the line HandleLidSwitch=ignore
10:35<meeh__>‪ systemd-logind restart
10:35<iStrive>found it!
10:36<meeh__>cool
10:36<meeh__>make sure its not commented out
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10:37<iStrive>I got command not found for sudo systemd-logind restart
10:38<SKaplan>If I run apt-get changelog openssh-server , it fetches and lets me see the changelog. Is there a way I can tell it to save that changelog to the filesystem somewhere for viewing? Or is it saved on the filesystem by default?
10:39<meeh__>lol try rebooting then
10:40<SKaplan>Huh. Answered my own question. Looks like I can just > to a file.
10:40<meeh__>Skaplan, yup.. just pipe it
10:40<SKaplan>Neat. Well, no reason to reinvent the wheel I guess when piping works.
10:40<SKaplan>I shoulda just tried it before asking. Sorry. It's been a rought day.
10:41<meeh__>Dont be
10:41<iStrive>that's good enough! why I don't have the min/max buttons in terminal from gnome? only close (x)
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10:44<meeh__>you can add them
10:45<iStrive>how?
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10:50<meeh__>you have gnome.. its compuwiz and something else, hang on
10:51<meeh__>apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool
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10:53<meeh__>then run it
10:53<meeh__>then click on shell
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10:54<meeh__>and then switch on the right hand side, arrangements of buttons, switch it to minimize and close
10:54<meeh__>or min, max and close
10:54<meeh__>which is what i have mine set too
10:55<iStrive>sorry, I had to step aside for a while...
10:55<iStrive>funny that this trivial feature is not default!
10:57<aloo_shu>hmm, I'm using xfce4, but I thought all DE's had an entry in settings (appearance? rather window manager) that allowed choosing window theme and arranging buttons
10:57<aloo_shu>I'm not on my lappy, so I can't check
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10:58<aloo_shu>never had to get an extra tool to achieve that, but haven't used gnome in a long while, neither
11:00<aloo_shu>maybe even typing 'window button' or similar into the menu search box or the alt+F2 runner would get you to the right place
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11:01<aloo_shu>or supposing you got gnome, it also usually ships with a help browser and extensive help texts that are searchable, too (typically F1, or finding 'Help')
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11:02<meeh__>could try this in terminal
11:02<meeh__>gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout appmenu:minimize,maximize,close
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11:07<wajahat>hello
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11:50<bioxz>Hey there, I would love some input on a problem I found yesterday: A bought a new external USB HDD for my Raspberry Pi 3B+ running Debian 10.0. The problem is now, that for some reason the wired network interface isn't coming up during boot while the USB drive is plugged in. Setting the state the UP after boot works fine. Any idea what could be the reason for this?
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12:17<rob_debian>Hi all, please, if it's possible to anyone explain me what's happening to this sector; I run debian buster with btrfs: [ 3.103258] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 312581808 512-byte logical blocks: (160 GB/149 GiB)
12:18<rob_debian>I understand more or less about this issue; but I can't understand why it isn't flagged in red line, but only blue.
12:19<rob_debian>Reallocated sectors remains the same since the last analysis: 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 098 098 010 Pre-fail Always - 20
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12:31<said>gh
12:31<said>hello
12:31<rob_debian>Hi said
12:31<petn-randall>rob_debian: That is not an error, just a status message. Why should it be flagged in red?
12:32<said>what is this &
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12:32<rob_debian>Hi petn-randall, I supposed that because of last messages related to it flagged in red recently
12:32<petn-randall>rob_debian: That's just a kernel message stating that it detected sda with exactly that size.
12:32<rob_debian>Anyway, thank you for information
12:32<rob_debian>Ok, but why the relation (160 GB/149 GB) ?
12:33<petn-randall>rob_debian: It's GB vs GiB.
12:34<said>what you now about sql injection ?
12:34<rob_debian>So, it's a 149 Gib size ?
12:34<petn-randall>rob_debian: One is the size in 1000*1000*1000 bytes, the other (GiB) is calculated in 1024*1024*1024 bytes.
12:34<petn-randall>rob_debian: a small "b" would mean bits, so no. It's 149 GiB (capital B).
12:34<petn-randall>said: What about it?
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12:35<rob_debian>I see, petn-randall, I inderstood now. GB in each size confused me. I only understood Gib as 'Gib', not GB, that I thought it was exclusively used to describe Gigabyte scale
12:36<rob_debian>Thank you very much for information :)
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13:03<nevivurn>Hi! I'm trying to schedule a systemd unit to run roughly four times per hour, although it's an update task and I'd rather not our machines all query the server at the same time. Is a systemd timer set to trigger at minutes 00,15,30,45 and a high randomizeddelaysec a sane way to go about doing this?
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13:27<jack>nevivurn: sounds about right to me
13:28<jack>make sure there's not a better timer type but the docs for those are pretty good
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13:43<iStrive>my debian just became extremely slow to execute any command! what happend?
13:43<shiva>iStrive: htop
13:44<keycollector>What command is recommended for paritioning in buster? Is it still 'parted'?
13:44<keycollector>or is there a better upcoming command?
13:44<iStrive>htop and then what? it did it and it takes 1min to load
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13:45<shiva>gparted ?
13:45<shiva>iStrive: what does htop say ?
13:45<iStrive>nothing abnormal here
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13:45<iStrive>everything below 3%
13:45<shiva>don't want to reboot?
13:45<iStrive>below 2% average
13:46<iStrive>mem 704M/7.55G
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13:47<shiva>keycollector: which DM are you using?
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13:49<keycollector>KDE, but im looking for bash commands.
13:51<bioxz>I don't think there is a parition manager in bash
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13:52<bioxz>If you just looking for any partition tool that works a shell, yes, that's still parted
13:53<keycollector>Okay, thanks. Yeah, i just need to parition and formate a 10TB drive over ssh.
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13:53<meeh__>so whats the issue?
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13:54<meeh__>fdisk
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13:56<iStrive>I just noticed that if I disable the ethernet it goes back to normal, enabling it slow the whole system dowm? WTH?
13:57<bioxz>What do you mean by "disabling the ethernet"? Any weird kernel messages?
13:58<shiva>journalctl|tail
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13:59<keycollector>If i had to learn to use a tool, should i learn fdisk or parted? Whats used more nowadays?
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14:01<iStrive>agrain, if I disconnect the cable from enp4s0 the system becomes responsive, plug it back in and boom, takes forever to run any command
14:01<iStrive>what in the world is goin on? and although it gets the ip from the dhcp, no internet connection at all
14:02<bioxz>iStrive: Cool. But without log files, we can't help you
14:02<meeh__>learn both
14:02<iStrive>I can collect the logs, what do you want?
14:02<iStrive>it's from another computer!
14:04<bioxz>iStrive: Look if you can see anything abnormal in your syslog or dmesg
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14:06<iStrive>I'll pastebin it, one min
14:07<iStrive>hewre we go: https://pastebin.com/bzsrdAeW
14:09<shiva>some driver conflict?
14:09<iStrive>how do I check that?
14:10<shiva>back in the day, I think there were interrupts :)
14:12<shiva>iStrive: why don't you do dmesg|grep enp4s0 just after plugging in /out ETH and pastebin
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14:18<iStrive>let me try that
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14:20<iStrive>I get permission denied to pipe it to > error.txt
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14:20<iStrive>never mind... I was in the root folder...
14:20<iStrive> :(
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14:24<iStrive>https://pastebin.com/H0epxD5R
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14:24<iStrive>nothing abnormal there either!
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14:25<iStrive>I have local connection (can vnc into the system) but not resolving dns (
14:25<iStrive>DHCP is enabled
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14:29<shiva>will have to ask a smart person :)
14:30<meeh__>vi /etc/resolv.conf
14:30<meeh__>you should have a line like
14:30<iStrive>resolv.conf is generated by the system and reseting it will be overwritten
14:30<meeh__>nameserver 8.8.8.8,8.8.4.4
14:31<shiva>https://askubuntu.com/questions/785809/where-is-enp4s0-configured
14:32<iStrive>I just noticed a couple ip addresses on my enp4s0 interface, from different subnets (was using another lan earlier) it semas that they are conflicting) why does the dhcp in linux is so bad?
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14:34<iStrive>i'm deleting the "extra" ip addr
14:37<iStrive>still extremely slow if I have the cable connected... what would cause that?
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14:38<iStrive>anyting involving sudo takes forever
14:38<iStrive>is sudo messed up?
14:38<iStrive>how can I check it?
14:38<sarnold>sudo does dns lookups
14:38<sarnold>if your dns is misconfigured, sudo may be slow as a result
14:39<iStrive>you are a genius! I would NEVER guess that one!
14:39<jack>thats a good fact to tuck away in the brainbin
14:39<iStrive>thank you
14:39<sarnold>the idea is that your university or company can prepare a single sudoers file that specifies specific commands for specific users on specific machines, but can keep all the machines in sync, etc
14:39<iStrive>I can ping the dns server on my networ from the debian box, but it wont resolve
14:41<iStrive>indeed, if I switch to su everything goes fast again
14:42<iStrive>my dns is coming from DHCP, how to check that?
14:42<iStrive>nslookup
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14:43<iStrive>ping 8.8.8.8 destination host unreachable
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14:44<sney>sometimes google dns is unreachable for dumb reasons. try 1.1.1.1 or your isp's
14:45<sarnold>and doublecheck that it's not your local fault; check ip route get 8.8.8.8 and make sure that you're using the interface and route that you think you should be using
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14:47<iStrive>my ipaddress is not correct, in ifconfig it shows 10.0.x.x but on ping i shows from 10.4.y.y (not the current subnet) what is goin on? this network was used during installation only...
14:48<sarnold>aha
14:48<burrows>if I install a package using "dpkg" that's more recent than debian's "apt" version, when debian updates that package and overtakes the version I have installed, would "apt upgrade" automatically install debian's version again?
14:49<iStrive>even though I delete the address like if addr del 10.4.y.y/n dev enp4s0
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14:50<iStrive>why root user ifconfig command not found. do I have to manually set the path for root in buster?
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14:51<sney>ifconfig is no longer installed by default, it's been replaced by ip/iputils
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14:52<meeh__>its ip a
14:52<meeh__>in buster
14:53<iStrive>learning a lot every day! I can't keep up with this... regular user runs ifconfig, root doesnt!
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14:53<sney>that's probably just a screwy PATH then
14:53<iStrive>from my user i can do sudo ifconfig
14:53<sney>but it's recommended to use ip anyway instead of ifconfig
14:53<iStrive>dully noted
14:53<sney>as root you can probably /sbin/ifconfig
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14:55<iStrive>my profile has the following if [ "`id -u`" -eq 0 ]; then PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin"
14:55<iStrive>should that take care of it?
14:57<iStrive>since my etc/network/interface is clean, where is this old ip coming from and why i cant get rid of it?
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15:00<iStrive>root@SleekySAM 14:58 ~ > ip addr del 10.4.x.x /n dev enp4s0 | the ip a and it's back in place
15:01<sarnold>*weird*
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15:02<sarnold>is a dhcp client re-assigning it moments later or something?
15:02<iStrive>itha's an understatement!
15:02<iStrive>I have no clue, I delete, list and it's there! :(
15:03<bioxz>Are we talking about a native installation or is it some kind of a virtual machine?
15:03<iStrive>native (laptop)
15:04<iStrive>ethernet cable connected, ip address from previous lan won't release :{
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15:55<bremner>is there a standard way for local admins to override .desktop entries in Debian?
15:56<bremner>(for gnome-shell)
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16:07<bremner>hmm. looks like you can drop a desktop file with the same name in /usr/local/share/applications
16:11<sonne>bremner, you can just do it in ~/.local/share/applications and keep it user-limited
16:12<bremner>sonne: yes, but not what I wanted in this case.
16:12<bremner>(that's actually documented)
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17:48<jhutchins>bremner: You could try taking the link down and bringing it back up. Sounds like it may not be set to hotplug. Are you using Network Manager?
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17:48<jhutchins>bremner: You could also just restart networking.
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19:18<rant>how could i figure out what is seyt
19:18<rant>settin firewall rules on my system?
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19:54<KAiSER>Can someone help me? I'm trying to setup minecraft on my home office pc for my son, but when I start the launcher I cant login. Same for the website, I just cant login. I tried different browsers but it still doesn't work. I tried it on Mint on the same machine, works without a problem. Since I don't get any errors, I don't know what to do
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20:33<sqrt{not}>KAiSER: I think some parts of minecraft use java. Do you have a different version number of java on your debian system than you have on the Mint setup?
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21:27<rob_debian>Please, sqrt{not} is possible installing and running minecraft in debian buster ?
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21:27<rob_debian>is that... sorry
21:30<ksk>rob_debian: eh, why should it not?
21:30<ksk>install oracle java- or the openjdk, get minecraft from internet -> profit
21:31<ksk>rob_debian: you know of interent search engines? :P as minecraft is not part of debian, its kind of offtopic in here.
21:31<ksk>you can ask if you have specific debian related questions though
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21:33<annadane>packages outside of debian you can run via the terminal and if it gives you error messages see what the error message is and work from there
21:33<annadane>for instance, programs (or games) requiring java... will tend to tell you
21:33<annadane>so apt install default-jre
21:34<rob_debian>yeah, I know about that, but I'm not the only on to ask about it. So, if are intensively focused on that, you have to do the same questioning and criticism as you did to me for others, not just for one person .... Am I speaking clearly? Don't be like I'm the only one asking about this, since I've known for years that minecraft is not official for debian .....
21:34<annadane>yeah ksk i wouldn't say it's off topic
21:34<annadane>it's a debian question, how to use a program on debian
21:35<rob_debian>Thank you annadane, for your understanding and patience. If everyone were 10% of what you are, surely this world would be much more populated by Debian Users ...
21:36<rob_debian>Really thank you annadane ! :) God Bless you !
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21:40<annadane>you shouldn't as a general rule add *repositories* without asking the debian community because they can lead to broken dependencies, and you shouldn't install random .deb files off the internet, but flatpaks can be ok, or .tar files... anything you can execute from the command line but .deb or external repositories are generally not recommended
21:40<annadane>rob left but minecraft is available in flatpak
21:40<annadane>damn it
21:40<annadane>should've checked there first
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21:41<sqrt{not}>yah, KAiSER left too
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21:42<annadane>i wish memoserv worked on OFTC
21:42<annadane>people just randomly leave here in greater proportion than freenode but because memoserv isn't on OFTC you can't offline message people
21:43<sqrt{not}>we can only assume they leave because all their problems were solved via our sage advice.
21:43<ksk>sheesh, chill a bit. I just wanted to say that minecraft is not part of debian, so first hand experience with that in here is limited.
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21:58<annadane>i know but it's still a legitimate question
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