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| 00:05 | <kali_> | any one can help me |
| 00:05 | <kali_> | any one can help me |
| 00:05 | <kali_> | any one can help me |
| 00:05 | <kali_> | any one can help me |
| 00:05 | <kali_> | any one can help me |
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| 02:22 | <mischief3> | what are my options if a bug i filed has gone unanswered for 3 months? |
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| 02:35 | <nikos> | mischief3: Ping the bug for a status update, Cc in the maintainer just in case. |
| 02:37 | <themill> | Attach a patch, that normally helps things along |
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| 03:02 | <mischief3> | nikos: themill i filed a bug upstream, since nobody replied on my debian bug, and i attached a patch, and it was just fixed upstream :-) |
| 03:03 | <mischief3> | i suppose i'll wait a little longer for a reply, but i hope it will get fixed in debian soon |
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| 03:04 | <themill> | marking the bug as forwarded and fixed-upstream is helpful |
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| 03:06 | <mischief3> | themill: how do i do that? |
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| 03:07 | <grove> | mischief3: Then it's more the fact that it's now fixed upstream, than the age of (just) 3 months, that warrants doing anything. I've reported bugd |
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| 03:08 | <grove> | +^Hs that have gone unanswered for much longer |
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| 03:15 | <grove> | The record (that I could find) being a bug from december 2011 (#652551) where the only activity is me providing more information in november 2012. |
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| 04:04 | <sajib> | 11 |
| 04:04 | <sajib> | install vpn |
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| 05:41 | <nevivurn> | Where can I find the documentation to write rules for pam-auth-config? Those that appear in /usr/share/pam-configs |
| 05:41 | <nevivurn> | Trying to package an internal authentication module |
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| 07:06 | <mlugg> | I'm currently running Debian Buster, but I'd like to upgrade Mesa to 19.1 for AMD FreeSync on RADV. I saw that Mesa 19.1.4-1 was recently migrated to testing; is Bullseye stable enough to switch to on a desktop machine, or would I be better off manually compiling Mesa? |
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| 10:23 | <ullbeking> | hey all, i'm currently tracking stretch and am all up to date. i want to convert this system to buster stable, preferably by a simple change of /etc/apt/sources.list . where should i look for instructions for this? |
| 10:23 | <ullbeking> | or do i just copy the source.list from a buster stable machine? |
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| 10:24 | <bremner> | ullbeking: there's detailed upgrade instructions in the release notes |
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| 10:25 | <bremner> | https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
| 10:28 | <bremner> | mlugg: generally the channel doesn't advise people to run testing, but if you want to talk to people who already running it, try #debian-next |
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| 10:30 | <ullbeking> | ty bremner |
| 10:33 | <bremner> | mlugg: I'd say right now many things are changing in bullseye, as we are earky in the development cycle. So it's maybe not the best time to start. |
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| 11:13 | <unknown0028> | HI |
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| 11:13 | <unknown0028> | hi |
| 11:13 | <unknown0028> | fuck you |
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| 11:21 | <bremner> | !next |
| 11:21 | <dpkg> | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 12:38 | <ServerOk> | How i enable a network interface on Debian 10 ? Now its DOWN. https://i.imgur.com/pxKQqsA.png (don't have access to cut and paste) |
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| 12:40 | <bremner> | 3 main tools. ifupdown (old way for servers), systemd-networkd (new way for servers), network-manager (old/new way for desktops) |
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| 12:42 | <ServerOk> | ifup need network configured in /etc/network/interface, what is the correct way if i need to get network up using command line with out perm adding network ? |
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| 12:42 | <ServerOk> | i will check systemd-networkd |
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| 12:44 | <bremner> | well, you can just use "ip link set $iface up" |
| 12:44 | <bremner> | that won't take care of ip addresses, of course |
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| 12:45 | <ServerOk> | Thanks, that is what i want, systemd-networkd not running on the vm yet :) |
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| 13:16 | <user> | hi |
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| 14:28 | <jesq1rk> | Hi there! Any russians? |
| 14:28 | <annadane> | !ru |
| 14:28 | <dpkg> | Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.oftc.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian) |
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| 14:29 | <fbi> | hi |
| 14:30 | <annadane> | oh noes. |
| 14:30 | <annadane> | hide the lolcats |
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| 14:32 | <bremner> | any ideas why "Terminal" doesn't show up in All Applications in a fresh install of buster/gnome? I can find it with search, but it seems hidden by default |
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| 14:33 | <bremner> | oh doh, it's hidden under utilities |
| 14:33 | <bremner> | these GUI things are hard |
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| 14:34 | <annadane> | you install gnome via the installer? |
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| 14:34 | <annadane> | i just know it comes with a bunch of games i'll probably never play :P |
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| 14:35 | <jhutchins> | I've removed more installations of gnome than I've installed. |
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| 14:35 | <annadane> | xfce's tasksel, you get... libreoffice and the network interface thing and a video player |
| 14:36 | <annadane> | and image viewer and that's basically it |
| 14:36 | <trucy> | I think I had to install libreoffice on my latest debian install |
| 14:37 | <piper> | thats why you don't install de from taskel or installer/mega packages, then install just what you need |
| 14:37 | <annadane> | well if you prefer that sure |
| 14:37 | <annadane> | if you prefer tasksel then that's fine too |
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| 14:43 | <annadane> | i like the xfce tasksel because it gives you a nice full environment from the beginning |
| 14:44 | <piper> | well, yes, that why you have what you want, especially when building the iso itself |
| 14:45 | <piper> | only takes me to build a kde iso less than 10 minutes, install only takes 2-4 minutes |
| 14:45 | <piper> | installing from toram is basically 2 minutes |
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| 14:46 | <piper> | all that includes mythtv server and nvidia drivers |
| 14:47 | <jlsantos> | Is it normal for apt to remove linux-headers altogether when upgrading from stretch to buster? I was expecting linux-headers-4.9.0-8-amd64 to be upgraded to linux-headers-4.19.0-5-amd64, but it just removes linux-headers. |
| 14:47 | <tripkin> | How can I switch from Wayland back to Xorg? I want to be able to blank my screen on demand and not lock it, and apparently this cannot be done with Wayland. |
| 14:48 | <Talkless> | tripkin: isn't there session type selector in login screen? |
| 14:49 | <tripkin> | Talkless, if there is, I keep missing it... LOL I will take a look... |
| 14:49 | <Talkless> | tripkin: I'm not sure, just seen it somewhere on some setup |
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| 14:50 | <sney> | jlsantos: it'll only upgrade if you have the linux-headers-amd64 metapackage installed. autoremove was probably a side effect of something else |
| 14:51 | <jlsantos> | ty, sney. i'll look further into it |
| 14:51 | <tripkin> | Hmm. Apparently the option to log out doesn't exist any more... I have to lock it to log out? |
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| 15:03 | <tripkin> | Talkless, I am guessing I need to add the Xorg session in order to have the session picker show up so I can choose it. There is currently no session picker to choose from. |
| 15:04 | <Talkless> | tripkin: good thinking |
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| 15:05 | <tripkin> | So, once I know how to do that... Google is not my friend here. It shows everything but... |
| 15:05 | <Talkless> | tripkin: maybe there's a package or whatever? |
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| 15:06 | <RattusRattus> | tripkin: i know that you get a session picker when you install multiple differant window managers.... but admit I don't know the specific package you need to install |
| 15:06 | <tripkin> | There should be. Google just keeps showing me pages that extol the virtues of Wayland on Buster, or how Ubuntu already has it available to choose from the session picker... |
| 15:07 | <tripkin> | Talkless, RattusRattus yeah, I cannot remember, and apparently nobody does it anymore... |
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| 15:07 | <RattusRattus> | humm |
| 15:07 | <Talkless> | I believe there was hint during Buster releae that there will be way to select different display server :/ |
| 15:08 | <RattusRattus> | it certainly still exists on my desktop installation - it hasn't been cleared out as a result of upgrade to buster, but then my desktop has been arround for several updates... |
| 15:09 | <tripkin> | Yeah, I was in the same boat, RattusRattus, but then I had to reinstall Buster from scratch because I suddenly could not access any of my gnome settings. |
| 15:10 | <RattusRattus> | let me spin up a vm - I am pretty sure that the option sis still presented on a fresh install |
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| 15:13 | <Andria> | Hello, I wish to create an session who launch "gcompris" instead of gnome or gnome-like. I'm using debian 10, and the last method don't work. Thanks you for your help. |
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| 15:14 | <Andria> | re |
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| 15:16 | <tripkin> | RattusRattus, I already have xorg installed, so I would have thought I would get the session picker tool... |
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| 15:26 | <RattusRattus> | tripkin: so I have a vanilla buster install (in a VM), adding kde-desktop does give me a session option on (wm) login screen |
| 15:26 | <tripkin> | RattusRattus, thanks for checking. I still want to use gnome, just with xorg insteard of wayland... |
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| 15:27 | <RattusRattus> | right - sorry I thaught that gnome was now wayland not xorg based |
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| 15:28 | <RattusRattus> | I didn't realise that you could chouse gnome+xorg |
| 15:29 | <tripkin> | That is the problem. I know it is possible, because I was doing it that way before. It seems that is not so easily done with a fresh install compared to an upgrade from Stretch. |
| 15:31 | <tripkin> | Just read this: |
| 15:31 | <tripkin> | On GNOME edition, Debian gives us both Xorg and Wayland session, with the latter one as default.To switch between sessions, simply logout, and choose either "GNOME Xorg" or "GNOME", respectively. |
| 15:31 | <tripkin> | LOL |
| 15:31 | <tripkin> | I could not find a logout option, and no way of choosing gnome xorg on the login screen. |
| 15:32 | <tripkin> | Sigh. I might have to reinstall with the graphical installer instead of the netinstaller... |
| 15:33 | <RattusRattus> | ehhh? " I might have to reinstall with the graphical installer instead of the netinstaller" net installer is NOT the oposite of graphical installer. you have text or graphical installer options on the net inst images |
| 15:34 | <RattusRattus> | the installer(DI - Debian Installer) is on all the (official) images |
| 15:34 | <RattusRattus> | and no you shouldn't need to re-install either |
| 15:36 | <tripkin> | Well, I installed using the text installer, and I don't have those options. I agree, they should be the same thing, just different presentation, but... |
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| 15:39 | <RattusRattus> | how did you initially install? |
| 15:39 | <RattusRattus> | what image did you use? |
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| 15:41 | <RattusRattus> | the official images (see get.debian.org) all use the same version of DI and that provides the saame package installation options (for any given architecture) regardless of text or graphicall installer option being selected. |
| 15:43 | <tripkin> | Yeah, I used debian-10.0.0-amd64-netinst from get.debian.org, text installer |
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| 15:44 | <tripkin> | And hence my confusion... |
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| 15:44 | <RattusRattus> | the differant images that you can download to install from just contain differant packages on the media. as long as your machine can see the internet during an install then regardless of what packeges you have on the media you get to pick any of the desktop environments (where choice is none, gnome by default or a selection of 1 or more of the others) |
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| 15:44 | <tripkin> | Yeah |
| 15:45 | <tripkin> | Maybe I just need to reinstall, try it again... |
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| 15:45 | <tripkin> | This is just some of the frustration I have been experiencing with Buster. |
| 15:45 | <RattusRattus> | but if you ONLY select 1 dektop then it is possible that you will not be offerd the session type at loging after install because only one desktop manager will have been installed. |
| 15:46 | <tripkin> | Such as Gnome, but not the others? |
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| 15:47 | <tripkin> | That doesn't make sense; I should still be offered the option of running wayland or xorg according to what I have been able to find... |
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| 15:47 | <tripkin> | I am going to have to install this in virtual environment and play with it... |
| 15:47 | <RattusRattus> | well apt can be used to insatll other dektop managers without a re-insatll. and certainly with kde (and I am now checking with the differant gnome systems) when you have more than 1 desktop environment available you do get to pick at login which one you want |
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| 15:48 | <tripkin> | Sure, but what about the windowing managers? |
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| 15:48 | <RattusRattus> | well have you just installed x.org or did you install a whole environment? |
| 15:50 | <tripkin> | I just installed xorg, afaik |
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| 15:51 | <tripkin> | Which, according to wiki.debian.org/Xorg is all I need to do/have installed |
| 15:52 | <RattusRattus> | ok one moment doing fress GNOME only install |
| 15:52 | <tripkin> | np, I appreciate your taking the time to help me. |
| 15:53 | * | RattusRattus does many lots DI test installs |
| 15:54 | <RattusRattus> | only I didn't have a vanilla gnome vm still about |
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| 15:56 | <bremner> | not sure I followed the whole discussion, but "gnome-core" is enough to have a usable gnome environment |
| 15:58 | <tripkin> | Hi bremner, I installed with the gnome desktop environment, but I want to use xorg instead of wayland and I cannot choose that option from the login screen. |
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| 15:58 | <bremner> | ah, I don't know about that. |
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| 15:58 | <tripkin> | So gnome is working, but I wayland is causing me a little grief. |
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| 15:59 | <RattusRattus> | ....vm install still going... nearly there ... |
| 16:00 | <tripkin> | Heh, just got my virtualbox back up and running... |
| 16:01 | <ju6a75> | help |
| 16:02 | * | RattusRattus normally does all this with a local mirror (and with all the .iso installer images also on an nfs share. I have a fast internet connection at home but didn't realise how much longer it takes when needing to downlaod.... |
| 16:02 | <tripkin> | hehe |
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| 16:02 | <RattusRattus> | ju6a75: just ask your question. if we can someone will try and help |
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| 16:05 | <RattusRattus> | ....vm install still going... closer to there than before ... |
| 16:05 | <koinos> | hi |
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| 16:08 | <parrot> | anyone here? |
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| 16:09 | <tripkin> | There are a few |
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| 16:11 | <RattusRattus> | tripkin: ok so #1 yes yoiu do not appear to get a session option on a vanilla install with only the gnome desktop being installed |
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| 16:12 | <tripkin> | Ah, so I wonder how I can get that without installing another DE... |
| 16:12 | <piper> | i don't use gnome, but you should be able to choose wayland or gnome from the login screen, i use sddm you probably have gdm3 |
| 16:12 | <tripkin> | Or, frankly, just switch... |
| 16:12 | <RattusRattus> | looking.... |
| 16:13 | <RattusRattus> | piper: no that option is NOT there on a freshly installed system |
| 16:13 | <tripkin> | piper, this is the problem. The option is not available if you only install gnome. |
| 16:13 | <piper> | well i am not a fan of gnome, so i don't know, with sddm on kde you have that option |
| 16:14 | <piper> | in both debian and siduction |
| 16:15 | <RattusRattus> | piper: ack. but given the starting point of the question the answer 'just use kde instead' isn't a helpful answer. |
| 16:15 | <piper> | RattusRattus: that is not what i said |
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| 16:16 | <tripkin> | We all have our preferences, gnome is mine. |
| 16:16 | <piper> | RattusRattus: why do you think i said that |
| 16:16 | <piper> | and where did i say that |
| 16:16 | <piper> | i love the bullshit here |
| 16:17 | <RattusRattus> | you didn't say those exact words but saying "well i am not a fan of gnome, so i don't know, with sddm on kde you have that option in both debian and siduction" does imply that your solution is switch to kde... |
| 16:17 | <jmcnaught> | Using GNOME here and GDM does give you a button to change session type, it's a gear icon below the text field for typing password |
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| 16:17 | <piper> | RattusRattus: but , many people prefer sddm over gdm3 |
| 16:18 | <RattusRattus> | piper: that is a fair statement, but doesn't help this spacific issue |
| 16:18 | <piper> | and jmcnaught is right |
| 16:18 | <piper> | RattusRattus: and neither do you |
| 16:18 | <RattusRattus> | jmcnaught: but I guess not a vanilla buster instal? was that an upgraded machine? |
| 16:18 | <piper> | i think saying what someone dosent say is just fucking wring |
| 16:18 | <jmcnaught> | This is a fresh install of buster |
| 16:18 | <piper> | *wrong |
| 16:18 | <tripkin> | jmcnaught, was that from a fresh install or upgrade? Do you have other DE's installed, or only gnome? With my fresh install with Gnome only, and RattusRattus' similar install, the gear does not appear. |
| 16:19 | <tripkin> | hmm. |
| 16:19 | <tripkin> | OK. |
| 16:20 | <RattusRattus> | jmcnaught: ok - just trying to confirm that I am seeing the same as you. where on the login screen do you see the option to change session type? |
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| 16:21 | <jmcnaught> | It is on the left side of the login button (mine says unlock right now) |
| 16:22 | <tripkin> | I did not have that gear icon anywhere on the screen, and definitely not by the unlock/login button... |
| 16:24 | <jmcnaught> | It's not displayed on the lock screen, obviously. But if I do ctrl+alt+f1 to get to tty1 where gdm3 is running, it is there. |
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| 16:25 | <tripkin> | jmcnaught, you are a champ! I just looked and it was right there. |
| 16:25 | <piper> | tripkin: maybe try /etc/gdm/custom.conf WaylandEnable=false |
| 16:25 | <piper> | ok, you got it |
| 16:27 | <tripkin> | So I can try piper's suggestion for my next login, perhaps, but otherwise, how do I log out and log back in with the desired selection? I do not seem to have a logout option, and if I restart, I don't have that gear icon beside the login button... |
| 16:28 | <RattusRattus> | tripkin: on login screen right click on your username - gear option becomes visible |
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| 16:28 | <tripkin> | Ah, fantatastic! Thanks RattusRattus! And thank you jmcnaught, piper, and all else! |
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| 16:29 | <jmcnaught> | Logout in GNOME is in the top bar menu where volume is, you click on your name and it expands to show logout |
| 16:30 | <k1-85> | buonasera, sono nuov su irc, potrei sapere come accedere al canale #debian-apache? thanks |
| 16:30 | <RattusRattus> | if name not visible on top bar, the down triange next to the power symble will make name and other options show on a drop box |
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| 16:30 | <tripkin> | jmcnaught, of course! I keep forgetting about that menu! Thank you!! |
| 16:31 | <tripkin> | Thanks, also, RattusRattus. I have had more problems with the buttons at the bottom simply not showing up at all until I close and reopen the menu... |
| 16:32 | <tripkin> | I admittedly don't use logout very often... |
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| 16:34 | <piper> | loginctl show-session $(loginctl | grep $(whoami) | awk '{print $1}') will give some info as should echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE |
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| 16:39 | <RattusRattus> | tripkin: your initial problem though can be solved within wayland. settings --> privicy --> Screen Lock --> OFF. then Power --> Blank Screen --> select timeout |
| 16:40 | <RattusRattus> | screen now blanks after a while but is no longer locked. moving mouse / pressing key just turns screen back on |
| 16:40 | <tripkin> | RattusRattus, that is currently my setting. However, it actually locks my screen, and will blank the screen if I don't touch the keyboard or mouse, but am watching something on the screen. |
| 16:41 | <tripkin> | My initial test showed that to be true, but I just had it blanked for a few hours this morning and when I came back it was locked. Not a killer, just annoying. |
| 16:41 | <tripkin> | I will try the timeout again, and see what happens. |
| 16:41 | <RattusRattus> | tripkin: ahh in that case turn automatic suspend off as well (locked after suspend) |
| 16:42 | <tripkin> | Yeah, it was off. |
| 16:42 | * | RattusRattus will leave the VM running for a few hours here and see if it locks here as well. |
| 16:43 | <tripkin> | I have just found it easier over time to blank the screen when I walk away from my computer for the night or when I am out of the house, but the rest of the time I prefer to have the screen on. |
| 16:43 | <tripkin> | Ok. Sounds good, RattusRattus. Thanks again for your help. |
| 16:43 | <RattusRattus> | no problem |
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| 18:32 | <finnthehuman> | is ksk online? |
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| 18:34 | <annadane> | yes they are |
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| 18:35 | <finnthehuman> | Okay ksk told me when my next wifi disconnect happens to save my demsg file and to come here. |
| 18:36 | <finnthehuman> | And paste like the last 5 lines or so |
| 18:36 | <blast007> | !paste |
| 18:36 | <dpkg> | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: http://paste.debian.net | pics/screenshots: http://file.io/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): http://file.io or http://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 18:37 | <annadane> | okay well, now that their name has been said they've been pinged so they may or may not be around, otherwise, you can just describe your problem for those who didn't see it the first time and we can try to answer it |
| 18:37 | <annadane> | and yeah the dpkg factoid |
| 18:37 | <finnthehuman> | I randomly get wifi disconnects ever since I upgraded to debian 10 buster |
| 18:37 | <finnthehuman> | I was previously using Debian 9 Stretch and did not have this problem. |
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| 18:41 | <finnthehuman> | How would I go about uploading it? |
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| 18:43 | <blast007> | finnthehuman: did you see what dpkg said above? you can use https://paste.debian.net |
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| 18:44 | <finnthehuman> | Oh I just figured it out nvm |
| 18:44 | <finnthehuman> | I uploaded it |
| 18:44 | <finnthehuman> | The name is wifi issue |
| 18:45 | <jmcnaught> | https://paste.debian.net/1096484 usually one would give us the link to their paste. |
| 18:45 | <finnthehuman> | lol my bad |
| 18:45 | <jmcnaught> | there are no messages related to wifi there |
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| 18:45 | <finnthehuman> | http://paste.debian.net/1096484/ |
| 18:46 | <finnthehuman> | The last 2 lines mention ipv6 |
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| 18:47 | <finnthehuman> | I saved that after the wifi disconnect |
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| 18:47 | <finnthehuman> | I can upload the whole thing if that would work |
| 18:47 | <sney> | wifi device names usually start with w so those messages seem completely irrelevant |
| 18:48 | <finnthehuman> | oh |
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| 18:50 | <finnthehuman> | http://paste.debian.net/1096485/ |
| 18:50 | <finnthehuman> | That's the complete output of my dmesg when the disconnect happened. |
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| 18:57 | <GreenMan> | hi |
| 18:57 | <GreenMan> | i need help |
| 18:58 | <finnthehuman> | What can we help with GreenMan |
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| 19:00 | <GreenMan> | want to hack a phone |
| 19:00 | <GreenMan> | I'm sorry I'm new. I'm still trying new things |
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| 19:02 | <finnthehuman> | As in how? |
| 19:02 | <finnthehuman> | what kind of phone? |
| 19:02 | <finnthehuman> | And hack as in how? |
| 19:03 | <GreenMan> | i have to attack an ios phone. but I don't know how to do it. |
| 19:03 | <blast007> | GreenMan: are you running Kali, or Parrot? |
| 19:03 | <GreenMan> | kali |
| 19:03 | <blast007> | !kali |
| 19:03 | <dpkg> | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
| 19:04 | <finnthehuman> | Like hack in to it or simply jailbreak it? |
| 19:04 | <sqrt{not}> | finnthehuman: it looks like your wireless link is up, from that dmesg |
| 19:05 | <GreenMan> | I have to watch a phone. for that I need to access that phone. |
| 19:06 | <blast007> | GreenMan: this is a support channel for Debian Linux, not whatever that would be classified as. |
| 19:06 | <finnthehuman> | Hmm well I was trying to do a google search and it said no internet. |
| 19:06 | <blast007> | finnthehuman: do you have both IPv4 and IPv6 support from your ISP? |
| 19:06 | <finnthehuman> | I'm not sure |
| 19:06 | <GreenMan> | I'm just learning this job new . I am so sorry. I need support. |
| 19:07 | <GreenMan> | IPv4 |
| 19:08 | <finnthehuman> | I do use a vpn so maybe it doesn't fully support debian 10 |
| 19:08 | <finnthehuman> | I'm not sure |
| 19:09 | <GreenMan> | understand |
| 19:09 | <blast007> | so are you sure it isn't just the VPN going down? are you able to ping other devices on your local network? can you ping the VPN gateway? or the VPN server that you connect to? |
| 19:10 | <GreenMan> | yes i can do this |
| 19:11 | <finnthehuman> | In the top right hand corner (gnome ui) it didn't show my wifi as being connected. |
| 19:11 | <GreenMan> | But how do I get a phone that's not connected to my network? |
| 19:12 | <finnthehuman> | I think he was talking to me GreenMan |
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| 19:12 | <blast007> | GreenMan: we're not talking about your issue - that's not on-topic for this channel, or this IRC network |
| 19:13 | <finnthehuman> | I would do some research and see if someone has already found a way to do it GreenMan |
| 19:14 | <blast007> | GreenMan: I'd suggest you try the #kal-linux channel on the Freenode network, though I'm not sure they assist with that anyway |
| 19:14 | <GreenMan> | okay okay I'll learn it somehow by trial and error. I took your time, sorry |
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| 19:14 | <GreenMan> | I have a method in mind. I will try this |
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| 19:16 | <finnthehuman> | No problem at all GreenMan sorry I couldn't help |
| 19:17 | <finnthehuman> | My computer is a Lenovo T430 if that tells you anything about my wifi issue. |
| 19:18 | <finnthehuman> | It may just be a bug that's getting fixed |
| 19:19 | <tripkin> | What group do I need to be a member of to see the users section of the control panel? |
| 19:22 | <finnthehuman> | That sounds like a Windows question |
| 19:23 | <finnthehuman> | I would say Admin. I don't know |
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| 19:23 | <bremner> | it's OK not to answer if you don't know |
| 19:23 | <tripkin> | Actually, it is a debian buster gnome question, sorry. I am asking about the gnome control panel |
| 19:24 | <finnthehuman> | Oh |
| 19:24 | <tripkin> | I am a member of sudo, and admin does not exist as a user group. |
| 19:24 | <tripkin> | np, finnthehuman |
| 19:24 | <finnthehuman> | Buster has a control panel? |
| 19:24 | <tripkin> | Yes it does. And a tweak ui settings panel as well |
| 19:25 | <tripkin> | settings panel = control panel |
| 19:25 | <finnthehuman> | Oh I see |
| 19:25 | <finnthehuman> | Yeah I'm not sure sorry |
| 19:25 | <tripkin> | finnthehuman, no worries |
| 19:26 | <jmcnaught> | tripkin: Users is under Details in GNOME Settings |
| 19:27 | <tripkin> | jmcnaught, I only have About, Date & Time, and Default Applications there. It is why I was wondering if it was a permissions thing. |
| 19:29 | <finnthehuman> | I can scroll all the way down in settings and see Details |
| 19:29 | <tripkin> | Sorry, yes. In Details, I only have the three entries. |
| 19:29 | <finnthehuman> | Oh you found details. I also have Users |
| 19:29 | <finnthehuman> | It might be a permission thing |
| 19:30 | <tripkin> | Weird. On my vanilla install in a vm, I have users... |
| 19:30 | <finnthehuman> | Yeah that is weird |
| 19:30 | <finnthehuman> | Are you logged in with the original user/ the first user created? |
| 19:31 | <tripkin> | Yup |
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| 19:31 | <finnthehuman> | Hmmmm I have no idea then |
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| 23:22 | <TaialaCampos> | oi |
| 23:23 | -!- | TaialaCampos [~TaialaCam@131.221.169.237] has quit [] |
| 23:25 | -!- | Tiven [~tiven@athedsl-326754.home.otenet.gr] has joined #debian |
| 23:25 | -!- | Tiven is "Tiven" on #debian-kde #debian |
| 23:28 | -!- | Tiven_ [~tiven@2a02:587:9209:c800:51a:610c:b0c9:912d] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
| 23:36 | -!- | narispo [~narispo@2a01:e0a:2a2:1590:b4c1:ac60:cb4a:50f5] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] |
| 23:36 | -!- | narispo [~narispo@2a01:e0a:2a2:1590:b4c1:ac60:cb4a:50f5] has joined #debian |
| 23:36 | -!- | narispo is "narispo" on #debian #bcache |
| 23:37 | -!- | edeak [~edeak@a95-94-190-154.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] |
| 23:37 | -!- | dvs [~hibbard@00012127.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] |
| 23:51 | -!- | magyar [~magyar@00015973.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian |
| 23:51 | -!- | magyar is "Andrash" on #debian-kde #debian |
| 23:54 | -!- | Tiven_ [~tiven@athedsl-230502.home.otenet.gr] has joined #debian |
| 23:54 | -!- | Tiven_ is "Tiven" on #debian |
| 23:58 | -!- | marian [~marian@p5B324AC7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
| 23:58 | -!- | Tiven [~tiven@athedsl-326754.home.otenet.gr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
| --- | Log | closed Mon Aug 19 00:00:59 2019 |
