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01:22<Peanut>Hi folks - I have a Debian Squeeze machine still running, that I would like to upgrade. But of course from Squeeze to Bookworm is a long way. What would be a good way to approach this?
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01:27<jm_>Bookworm?
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01:29<Peanut>Sorry, Bookworm may be a step too far, I meant the current stable one, Buster.
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01:30<jm_>you want to go the official way - squeeze → wheezy → jessie → stretch → buster
01:30<jm_>anything else will probably fail
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01:31<Peanut>jm_: ok, I'm fine with that. The machine is running Cacti, not much else.
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01:33<jm_>Peanut: just make sure you read upgrade section in release notes for each release (in some cases a newer kernel + reboot is required first etc.)
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01:34<Peanut>jm_: ah, good point.
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01:40<FedericoM>Dear all,
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01:41<FedericoM>I have just installed upgraded my Debian from 9 to 10. Unfortunately, the AMD video card is not well recognised
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01:41<FedericoM>[drm:radeon_pci_probe [radeon]] *ERROR* radeon kernel modesetting for R600 or later requires firmware installed
01:42<FedericoM>Is it a known bug? do you have any suggestion?
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02:33<finn0>By whom "~/.profile" file read when login from graphical interface (for ex: GNOME)? For console it would be bash if ~/.bash_profile and ~/.bash_login is not present.
02:34<kako>mhmm
02:36<jm_>I doubt gnome in anyway cares about ~/.profile
02:38<finn0>I wonder because from few days I'm facing an issue. I've set some path in ~/.profile which works perfectly fine (means echo $PATH output those value of path). But, when I export variable like these "export LESS_TERMCAP_md=$'\e[01;34m';" varaible remains empty. To fix this I've to run "source ~/.profile" in gnome-terminal.
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02:39<finn0>here is the output of `hd <<< "$LESS_TERMCAP_me"`:
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02:40<finn0>00000000 1b 5b 30 30 3b 30 30 6d 0a |.[00;00m.|
02:40<finn0>00000009
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02:41<finn0>oh sorry, pasted wrong output
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02:44<jm_>have you tried not using $'' in .profile?
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02:47<finn0>jm_: I've cross checked this exporting a temporary variable `export $TEST_PR="Hello from profile"` and `export $TEST_BASH="Hello from bash profile"` in ~/.profile and ~/.bash_profile file respectively. When I login from graphical interface try to echo "$TEST_PR" and echo "$TEST_BASH" I get only output for "$TEST_PR" (i.e. "Hello from profile") whereas, from console only get output for `echo
02:47<finn0>"$TEST_BASH"` (i.e. "Hello from bash profile") and other variable print as empty.
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02:48<jm_>finn0: it's export TEST_PR="Hello from profile", not export $TEST_PR="Hello from profile"
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02:50<finn0>From this I concluded that some program must read ~/.profile when I login from graphical interface which is probably not a bash despite of being bash as default login shell.
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02:51<finn0>jm_: my bad, I've mistyped here. In config it's correct (export TEST_PR="Hello from profile").
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02:53<finn0>I think may be some other shell (for ex sh, ksh) reads ~/.profile file.
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02:54<jm_>it's definitely not bash, I'd just use bpftrace or bcc tools to find out what opens it
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02:57<jm_>and of course searching for profile on cs.d.n returns too much, while ".profile" doesn't show anything that would be immediately obvious
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02:59<jm_>and man page for bash does mention it reading that file under INVOCATION section, but not in FILES section
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03:03<finn0>sorry for my client was disconnect.
03:05<finn0>jm_: I didn't get the meaning ("searching for profile on cs.d.n returns too much"). Could you rephrase it?
03:06<jm_>finn0: https://codesearch.debian.net/
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03:26<smishok>Всем привет! Нужна помощь, у меня графическая оболочка не запускается.
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03:29<jm_>!ru
03:29<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.oftc.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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03:31<smishok>O! i am sorry.
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03:31<finn0>jm_: It reads ~/.profile only when shell is login shell and AFAIK login from graphical interface never invokes login shell.
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03:31<finn0>jm_: could you reproduce this behavior on your system?
03:32<jm_>finn0: no because I don't have gnome installed :) but I tested bash -l (bash is not my shell) and it does read .profile if .bash_profile does not exist
03:33<EmleyMoor>I'm now getting the following problem with logcheck on my laptop: It is sending out one correctly addressed mail (initially addressed to logcheck, then through aliases and smarthost, it comes through to me@domain as a root mail) and then slightly later another which ends up addressed to me@laptop.domain, and is rejected "550 relay not permitted" - the mail is superfluous, how do I trace why it is happeni
03:33<EmleyMoor>ng and stop it?
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03:34<finn0>reading ~/.profile file if ~/.bash_profile file absent is expected. May be someone else can do it.
03:34<EmleyMoor>(both laptop and mail server are running buster, exim4)
03:34<finn0>please ping me if reproduce the behavior.
03:37<jm_>yeah I just tested it because I haven't seen .profile mentioned under FILES
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03:40<jm_>finn0: should be trivial to catch what opens the file with bcc/bpftrace
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03:41<finn0>jm_: I don't find bpftrace on debian repo and cc is a cc compiler.
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03:42<finn0>*C compiler
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03:42<jm_>finn0: https://packages.debian.org/buster/bpftrace
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03:44<finn0>oh, this only available on Buster but, I'm on Stretch.
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03:45<finn0>Does bcc work in replace of bpftrace?
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03:46<jm_>yeah but you'll have to install that manually too
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03:46<jm_>bpftrace uses bcc
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03:49<finn0>okay
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07:40<mugesh>hi
07:41<mugesh>anyone??
07:41<mugesh>????
07:41<bremner>!ask
07:41<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
07:41<mugesh>ok
07:42<mugesh>i can not hack wifi
07:42<mugesh>plse tell me
07:42<bremner>that doesn't sound like a Debian support question
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07:44<towo^work>that doesn't sound like a serious question at all
07:44<bremner>babysteps ;)
07:47<bremner>mugesh: "hacking" is offtopic here. You'll have to find different channel, and probably a different IRC network to learn how to break into other people's computers
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07:50<meeh_>lol
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07:51<meeh_>what this isnt the place to learn magic, vodoo or cybersecurity?
07:51<meeh_>lol
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12:40<jlsantos>Hi. After upgrading to buster from stretch, I found myself having to run "sudo modprobe fuse" before mounting an exfat usb flash drive. On a fresh installation of buster, the fuse module loads at boot. The module does not seem to be blacklisted so I don't know why it isn't loading at boot for this system. Any suggestions?
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12:47<jlsantos>My workaround has been to put "fuse" in /etc/modules, but I was expecting it to load at boot anyway.
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13:02<meeh__>install automount
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13:04<jhutchins_wk>meeh__: That has nothing to do with fuse.
13:04<jhutchins_wk>jlsantos: What desktop/file manager are you using?
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13:05<meeh__>I use Mate
13:05<meeh__>old school
13:05<meeh__>It works for me
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13:07<meeh__>mine is a fresh install of buster and I pop in thumb drives without issue
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13:13<jlsantos>jhutchins_wk: LXDE/PCManFM. I also tried with GNOME/Nautilus, but I find myself having to run modprobe fuse either way.
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13:19<jlsantos>meeh__: I'm only experiencing this problem on a system upgraded from stretch; it is possible I have a config file that is preventing fuse from loading. I just don't know where to look.
13:19<meeh__>did you try reinstalling the libfuse2
13:19<jlsantos>meeh__: Not yet. I'll give that a try right now.
13:20<meeh__>and fuse
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13:20<jlsantos>I did try reinstalling only fuse, yes.
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13:21<jlsantos>Going for a reboot. Wish me luck!
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13:25<jlsantos>Reinstalling libfuse2 did not fix my fuse-module-not-loading-at-boot problem.
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13:31<jhutchins_wk>It was my impression that it was loaded by something like udev on detecting a plugin.
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13:35<meeh__>exfat-fuse, exfat-utils, gfs-fuse, gfs-stable, gfs-lib
13:36<meeh__>this works on KDE as well
13:36<meeh__>and on my windows linux subsystem box
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13:43<jlsantos>gvfs-fuse is missing on the system. it is present on my other buster systems.
13:46<jlsantos>installing gvfs-fuse did not help. i am baffled
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13:51<jlsantos>i guess i can stick with putting "fuse" in /etc/modules
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13:52<yeeeeet>irssi on the fucking top
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14:07<iStrive>hello guys! It's goo to be back...
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14:08<iStrive>I have a debian buster system (all up to date) my fstab isn't mounting the volume at the but, but after login if I issue the sudo mount -a then my share appears, what am I missing that it desn't work at boot level?
14:09<blast007>what kind of mount is it? just a normal local disk?
14:09<iStrive>thats a cifs, //nas_IP/DrvImg /mnt/wdnas/DriveImg cifs credentials=/opt/.naslogin,vers=1.0,uid=1000,gid=1000,rw,nounix,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0755,dir_mode=0755 0 0
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14:21<sney>I just did a fresh install of buster on my old eeepc and something in the boot process is consistently disabling my wifi. I suspected the rfkill service, so I disabled that (both via systemd and the kernel parameter) with no effect. if I enable wifi and boot to single-user, I can associate to the wlan just fine, so the driver is working. if I boot to multi-user wifi is always disabled, and I have to re-enable it in the bios to try again.
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14:22<sney>is there somewhere I can tell systemd to leave my wlan interface alone?
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14:31<bremner>sney: is the interface being renamed?
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14:32<bremner>e.g. "ip link" should reveal
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14:32<bremner>my gnome question of the day is whether Type=Link .desktop files are supported by gnome-shell
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14:36<sney>bremner: it indicates in daemon.log that it gets renamed from wlp1s0 to wlan0 but then gets disabled anyway. ip link shows only lo and enp3s0
14:36<bremner>huh.
14:37<sney>nopaste and pastebinit aren't cooperating or I would show you directly
14:37<iStrive>unable to start lighttpd, (code=exited, status=255/EXCEPTION), any help?
14:37<bremner>not ringing a bell.
14:37<iStrive>debian buster, PiHole
14:38<sney>iStrive: check error logs for actual clues. probably config syntax issue
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14:38<lio>hi
14:39<iStrive>never edited lighttpd.conf, so what could it be?
14:39<lio>plz how install idm on mx
14:39<sney>lio: mxlinux is not supported here
14:40<bremner>i guess nvm my desktop question
14:40<blast007>!mx linux
14:40<dpkg>Current MX Linux is based on Debian stretch. However, MX Linux is not supported in #debian. Seek help at https://mxlinux.org/.
14:40<lio>ok thks
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14:41<lio>an idea for mx
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14:42<lio>what the best app on mx plz
14:42<blast007>lio: mx is not Debian. We only support Debian here. Read that dpkg said above.
14:42<blast007>what*
14:43<lio>sorry
14:43<lio>bye
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14:46<sney>well, I got nopaste to upload *somewhere*, so here's daemon.log. (for anyone just joining us, ignore the url, this is a fresh buster install.) http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/R2kR2gVvSD/
14:46<sney>cc bremner
14:46<iStrive>I'm unable to start lighttpd, this is the service status https://pastebin.com/NTjt1QGR
14:47<iStrive>any help to get this running?
14:47<sney>iStrive: there should be a *lighttpd* error log that will give you real information. probably in /var/log/lighttpd or something, I haven't used lighty in forever
14:49<iStrive>the file is empty (cat yields nothing at all)
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14:59<sney>is lighttpd one of those daemons that will refuse to start until you edit something in the config or in /etc/default? i.e. have you read the manual
14:59<iStrive>please help me with lighttpd not starting, here is the journalctl -u lighttpd https://pastebin.com/WMHFhpG4
15:00<sney>> source: /etc/lighttpd/lighttpd.conf line: 65 pos: 1 parser failed somehow near here: (EOL)
15:00<sney>oh look, it's a config syntax issue.
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15:03<iStrive>how to see the line number in nano?
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15:04<sney>start it with nano -c
15:04<iStrive>got it
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15:10<iStrive>I compared both files and they are identical, from one server that is running lighttpd and the other that has the error
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15:11<dboles>how did you compare them?
15:11<iStrive>diff
15:11<dboles>i wondered if it was a weird line ending
15:11<dboles>are the 2 servers running the same version?
15:11<iStrive>diffyes
15:11<iStrive>I just build the second one for another office...
15:12<iStrive>his is a fresh install,
15:12<iStrive>this
15:13<blast007>compare with something like sha1sum and make sure both files end up making the same hash
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15:14<iStrive>that a bit extreme! lol
15:15<iStrive>this is a fresh install of lighttpd, should I purge it and then install again?
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15:28<blast007>iStrive: I'm talking about the config file, not the program files
15:28<bremner>any ideas how to debug gnome-shell not using the right icon ? I've dropped an svg file in /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps
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15:33<meeh__>check file permissions
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15:35<bremner>apparently I needed to run "gtk-update-icon-cache /usr/share/icons/hicolor"
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15:44<blackbit>hi. i have a rather weird problem where my laptop goes into suspend in situations when it shouldn't. i use the machine with and without a dock, depending on where i am
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15:45<blackbit>when it's not in the dock and i close the lid it suspends as it should. no problem in that situation
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15:46<blackbit>when it is in the dock two external DP displays are connected, the internal screen is not used (disabled via xrandr if that matters). when the lid is closed in that situation it shouldn't and does not suspend (immediately)
15:46<blackbit>though, after 30 minutes, it goes into suspend, and i don't understand why
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15:48<blackbit>systemd-logind is configured not to do suspend when a dock is present and the journal content doesn't indicate any wrongdoing of logind
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15:48<TeddyH>blackbit: Could be your desktop environment
15:48<blackbit>i just use dwm which doesn't mess with such things
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15:49<blackbit>that's my journal of the time when it suspends https://ahuemer.xx.vu/volatile/2019-08-20-vNbID59bU18/stdin
15:49<blackbit>i have enabled debug logging for logind so it's a bit verbose
15:50<blackbit>all it really says is: Aug 20 09:32:35 void systemd-logind[786]: Suspending...
15:50<blackbit>no indicatoin _why_
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15:51<TeddyH>blackbit: I'm just guessing wildly here, but even though you use dwm, do you use gdm as your login prompt?
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15:51<blackbit>i don't. i login on the console and use startx then
15:52<TeddyH>blackbit: Then I'm out of guesses.
15:52<blackbit>i read https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/acpi/debug.txt to have the kernel log acpi events which could be helpful, though apparently the debian kernel doesn't have CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG enabled so i believe i would have to recompile the kernel to get there
15:53<blackbit>i tried kacpimon, though that was a dead road also
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16:09<annadane>urge to kill, rising
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16:14<TeddyH>Is lintian.debian.org no longer running jobs?
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16:14<bremner>#debian-qa might know more about that.
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16:14<bremner>check the topic there, e.g.
16:15<TeddyH>bremner: Thanks!
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16:51<pauls>Hi guys. I need help with hibernation and normal boot - I get "resuming from hibernation" every time - even if it's start not from the hibernation. It takes too long to start. Could you please help me with that? :) Also not sure if it's correct channel (asked about it in #debian-boot as well).
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16:57<annadane>pauls, everyone gets that message as far as i can tell
16:57<annadane>as to "too long to start", that's a separate thing and one we can actually address
16:57<pauls>yes but I need to wait for the normal start for a long time (minutes)
16:57<annadane>i guess start by typing systemd-analyze blame
16:58<pauls>ok - checking
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17:01<annadane>!paste
17:01<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: http://paste.debian.net | pics/screenshots: http://file.io/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): http://file.io or http://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
17:01<pauls>nothin special from systemd-analyze blame: network manager waits for 12s as the longest start. Nothing with minutes like time.
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17:03<pauls>I'm noob with linux stuff so I could be greateful for any info what can be checked more
17:03<pauls>but pretty
17:03<pauls>but pretty good with base knowledge
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17:03<torify>hey
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17:11<sney>been a few hours, so
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17:13<sney>I just did a fresh install of buster on my old eeepc and something in the boot process is consistently disabling my wifi. I suspected the rfkill service, so I disabled that (both via systemd and the kernel parameter) with no effect. if I enable wifi and boot to single-user, I can associate to the wlan just fine, so the driver is working. if I boot to multi-user wifi is always disabled, and I have to re-enable it in the bios to try again. relevant-seeming bits
17:13<sney>of daemon.log: http://paste.debian.net/1096733/
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17:19<sney>actually, that log is from when rfkill was still enabled. (why doesn't this one split into .1 .2 etc grumble) this is the most recent multi-user startup. looks like I have to figure out ModemManager and/or connmand, but if anyone has existing wisdom, it'd be welcome. http://paste.debian.net/1096735/
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17:31<iStrive>fstab not mounting the cifs share at boot, then if I run sudo mount -a it brings my shared volume... What is going on? I need it mounted so I can run backups
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17:35<sney>it is probably trying to mount the fs before the network is up
17:36<iStrive>how to swap this step ? Buster
17:40<iStrive>also my lighttpd wont start, and this is in the journalctl /lib/systemd/system/lighttpd.service:6: PIDFile= references path below legacy directory /var/run/, updating /var/run/lighttpd.pid → /run/lighttpd.pid; please update the unit file accordingly.
17:40<iStrive>how update this accordingly?
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17:43<sney>have you looked at the files it references? you may find this is pretty self-explanator.y
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18:02<iStrive>the lighttpd is fixed !!!! Thanks <sney>, sometimes you look bot don't see what's right in front of you! ;)
18:03<iStrive>now I'm still struggling with fstab..
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18:14<pentester>hello guys
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18:21<iStrive>cifs_mount failed w/return code = -101
18:22<iStrive>this is the error I get from dmesg when my fstab didn't work : //10.0.5.5/DrvImg /mnt/wdnas/DriveImg cifs credentials=/opt/.naslogin,,vers=3.0,uid=1000,gid=1000,rw,nounix,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0755,dir_mode=0755 0 0
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18:29<somiaj>does the mount work now that your machine is running and the network is up, or running 'mount /mnt/wdnas/DriveImg'
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18:29<somiaj>if that is the case, could be an issue with the mount running too soon
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18:29<iStrive>mount -a works
18:30<iStrive>how to tell buster to don't boost the mounting point? lol
18:30<somiaj>so the issue sounds like it is trying to mount the share before the network is fully available.
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18:30<somiaj>you might have to look into writing a system .mount unit that has more power than fstab (since systemd is turning the enteries into .mount units anyways, but this allows you to maybe delay the mount until after the network-availble.target is ready)
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18:31<somiaj>s/system/systemd/
18:31<iStrive>I got the idea, but I don't know how to deploy it! ;(
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18:32<iStrive>I didn't have this issue on debian stretch
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18:35<somiaj>not something I have done in detail, so I can't just say off the top of my head what is needed done
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18:35<iStrive>ok, no problem I'll google about buster fstab
18:36<Fraggle>iStrive: it is not necessary for me on buster
18:37<Fraggle>just added the mount to fstab and it worked, mounts after the network is up
18:38<somiaj>could be something else happeneing with iStrive's boot process slowing the network down compared to when they were using stretch.
18:38<iStrive>I'm getting error -101 cifs
18:38<somiaj>you might have to google what that error is
18:39<iStrive>CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -101
18:39<somiaj>though not getting any googl hits on error code -101
18:40<aloo_shu>the other option would be just running mount -a again as a session & startup custom command(if you're starting into a desktop session), just would need to figure how to run it as root without password prompt
18:40<iStrive>only from the fstab, then from my cmd I enter mount -a and no problem, volume is available... but I need it to be automated so my backup can run... I cant sing in just to mount the voluems
18:41<iStrive>this is my fstab
18:41<iStrive>only this line to mount my NAS //10.0.5.5/DrvImg /mnt/wdnas/DriveImg cifs credentials=/opt/.naslogin,,vers=3.0,uid=1000,gid=1000,rw,nounix,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0755,dir_mode=0755 0 0
18:41<Fraggle>looks similar to mine
18:41<iStrive>no double ,, thoug
18:41<iStrive>h
18:42<Fraggle>101 is "network is unreachable"
18:42<iStrive>then dmesg | grep -E "error|fail|warn"
18:43<iStrive>CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -101
18:43<iStrive>this is ethernet
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18:43<iStrive>how can I check if there is anything wrong with the connection during boot?
18:45<sqrt{not}>probably what's wrong with it, is that it is not yet up
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18:46<iStrive>is there a way to make changes to the way the network becomes available? never had such an issue with debian from fstab not available...
18:47<Fraggle>https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/9rvj0j/cifs_shares_not_mounting_at_boot/
18:47<Fraggle>they are talking there about options for systemd that might help you
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18:51<iStrive>their recommendation is to add this, x-systemd.automount,x-systemd.device-timeout=10,x-systemd.idle-timeout=60,sec=ntlm does it apply to buster too?
18:53<iStrive>anyway to increase the network priority in the boot process?
18:55<sney>!tias
18:55<dpkg>TIAS is "Try It And See".
18:57<iStrive>One needs to know what to try before trying! ;)
18:58<sney>[16:51:51] <iStrive> their recommendation is to add this, x-systemd.automount,x-systemd.device-timeout=10,x-systemd.idle-timeout=60,sec=ntlm
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19:00<iStrive>rebooting it now with that changes
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19:08<iStrive>I can't even list my folder with this now ... revoming
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19:41<tripkin>Hey all, my gnome desktop is freezing completely - no keyboard, mouse, or changes in display even if a video is playing. But I can ssh in, so they system itself is not frozen. Is this something we can talk about here or is there a channel better suited to this type of problem?
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19:43<sney>tripkin: this is the correct channel.
19:43<sney>are you able to toggle num lock on the keyboard or hit ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a terminal?
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19:47<tripkin>sney, no I am not able to either one.
19:47<sqrt{not}>if you're running gnome, it probably claimed vt1 and vt2. try ctrl-alt-f3 ?
19:48<sqrt{not}>also, from your ssh login, what do you see with top ?
19:48<tripkin>Even an ssh session where I can do a reboot command gives me a bell sound then nothing. At that point, I hit the reset button, and the system wakes up from suspend
19:49<sney>so you are able to log in via ssh but not do anything?
19:49<tripkin>sqrt{not}, F1-F6 will not produce any results - when the system is running, my logged in session is on 2, 1 has a login screen, and 3-6 get me a login prompt. 7-12 are not connected.
19:50<tripkin>I do not remember what top shows, as I don't remember running it. I was just trying to kill gdm3 or gnome-session to see if that would restart things.
19:50<sqrt{not}>it sounds like suspend is the actual problem
19:50<tripkin>Next time it freezes - should be any time now, I will do that.
19:51<tripkin>Ok. Suspend is currently turned off according to the control panel
19:51<sney>sqrt{not}: I think it's a red herring, my system says "resuming from hibernation" right before fsck regardless of whether it was or not
19:52<tripkin>Ah yes, resuming from hibernation would be the correct message
19:53<sney>it sounds like a memory issue to me. either bad ram or not enough somehow. the system hits a limit and can't allocate any more. ssh works briefly because it's either already in memory or it needs so little.
19:54<tripkin>Ok. It shouldn't be a memory size issue - it has 32GB onboard and recognized
19:54<sney>this is just a hypothesis, but it fits the signs
19:54<tripkin>A hypothesis is a good place to start. So run memtest+, then?
19:55<sney>yep
19:57<tripkin>I did save the output of dmesg before I rebooted, will that help? I also grabbed the demon.log, kern.log, and messages log - I am simply no good at reading them...
19:57<sney>problems like this can happen to quickly and not get logged, but pastebin daemon and dmesg
20:04<tripkin>sney, dmesg output is at http://paste.debian.net/1096746/, and I provided ~1.5 hours leading up to the crash - logfile was too big for debian paste: http://paste.debian.net/1096748/
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20:09<sney>oh there's actually a dump here, starting at section 70877
20:11<tripkin>Okay. It looks like it might have something to do with my video card, then?
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20:11<tripkin>Maybe a video driver?
20:12<tripkin>I don't see anything similar in daemon
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20:47<tripkin>sney, thanks for taking a look. I have to head out for about an hour, so responses from me will be a bit delayed...
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21:11<sbbs>I am trying to get fsxnet working
21:12<sbbs>I am getting thousands of these
21:12<sbbs>2019-08-20 20:02:28 FSX_PKT: Failed to parse Origin Line in message from VK7AX (21:2/100) in packet from 21:2/100: /sbbs/fido/inbound/0c5e3aef.pkt
21:12<sbbs>2019-08-20 20:02:28 Importing /sbbs/fido/inbound/0c5e3afc.pkt (Type 2e, 520.6KB) from 21:2/100 to 21:2/142
21:12<sbbs>I told it to do a %rescan d=1865
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21:12<sbbs>I started getting the messages
21:12<sbbs>but getting failed to pares orgin line
21:12<sbbs>Plese help
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21:24<sqrt{not}>tripkin: maybe you already told us, but where did this kernel come from ? Linux version 5.2.0-2-amd64 looks like something from unstable ?
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22:09<sqrt{not}>tripkin: if you are running a sid kernel, you might upgrade to the newest. you have 5.2.7-1 (2019-08-07), but looks like sid offers 5.2.9-1 (2019-=08-18)
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23:16<tripkin>sqrt{not}, I accidentally upgraded to one of the non-stable states, but then adjusted my apt configuration to pull everything back to stable. Perhaps the kernel did not make it, and that may be my problem. If so, I may just do a reinstall and make sure that apt does not try to get rambunctious with testing / unstable...
23:17<tripkin>How do I check to see which kernel is which?
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23:19<tripkin>nm - figured it out, thanks.
23:24<tripkin>Ok, I have the correct kernel installed, how do I tell debian to boot using 4.19.37 instead of 5.2.7?
23:26<tripkin>and then will it be safe to remove the newer kernel?
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23:32<rob_debian>Hi all. Please, Although it's not about an official debian package, if it's possible, I'd like to understand why it's being displayed an error related to connection refused: https://paste.debian.net/1096775/
23:33<rob_debian>That's a way I'm using to convince my 7 years old son to use debian more often
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23:50<AidanSW>With the latest stable release of Debian, with FX-6300 integrated graphics my monitor returns unsupported mode. (I suspect this is a driver issue.) Is it a possible issue with XFCE though?
23:51<AidanSW>Or would DE not be relevant?
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23:56<sqrt{not}>tripkin: when you boot, grub should have an option called "advanced options for Debian GNU/Linux". Select that, and it should offer you a list of kernels. The one marked with a "*" is the default choice.
23:56<tripkin>Fantastic! Thank you squat
23:57<tripkin>sqrt{not}, sorry...
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