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00:09<cHawk>tsundoku, amd64 is not, but i386 is
00:09<cHawk>maybe you have looked at the wrong arch?
00:11<tsundoku>perhaps
00:11<tsundoku>is it only for i386 right now?
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00:53<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 5.0.0-trunk-686-pae (5.0.2-1~exp1); sid: 5.2.0-2-686 (5.2.9-2); buster: 4.19.0-5-686-pae (4.19.37-5); stretch-backports: 4.19.0-0.bpo.5-686-pae (4.19.37-5+deb10u2~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-9-686 (4.9.168-1+deb9u5); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.9.88-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 4.9.0-0.bpo.9-686-pae (4.9.168-1+deb9u5~deb8u1)
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00:55<nvz>tsundoku: it does seem to be showing up on the mirror, but not on p.d.o or UDD
00:58<nvz>tsundoku: are you on amd64?
00:59<nvz> https://i.imgur.com/cAh6H6Z.png amd64 doesn't seem to be there
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01:36<aliencool> hay vida? o only english?
01:38<aliencool>...
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01:59<tsundoku>nvz: yes, amd64
02:00<tsundoku>at least powerpc64le is there
02:00<tsundoku>I care about that too
02:00<tsundoku>why not amd64, I wonder?
02:00<nvz>tsundoku: looks like they're only starting to do it.. maybe in a few days it'll all be ready
02:00<tsundoku>that would seem the most likely one
02:00<nvz>I didn't check to see if its in the packages file yet
02:00<tsundoku>or I should say, least likely to be missing
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02:03<tsundoku>it's not a huge rush, but I was curious
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02:04<nvz>tsundoku: yeah, I'm glad you mentioned it I was considering trying out 5.x when it was available in backports
02:04<nvz>I don't /need/ it so I been holding off
02:04<nvz>my machine is from 2013 so..
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02:06<tsundoku>I've been mainly trying to resolve some amdgpu issues
02:07<tsundoku>I have an RX550 in my amd64 machine and if I try to use it eventually I get a ring gfx timeout that blanks the screen and hangs the system
02:08<tsundoku>starting in about a week I expect to be using a pcc64le system with an RX580, and nvidia isn't an option on that platform
02:09<tsundoku>I heard some things to the effect that drm fixes that are included in linux 5.2.x were supposed to resolve the issue and that was why I was interested in the backports kernel, although I got the same issue on the amd64/RX550 setup in testing so now those hopes are dashed
02:09<tsundoku>the ppc64le/RX580 configuration may be different, though
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02:11<nvz>well for now you can manually fetch the sid kernel from packages.debian.org and manually install it
02:11<nvz>and if need be do the same for the firmware package
02:12<nvz>they'll install cleanly on buster and as long as you do it all manually without adding a sources line you wont have any issues
02:13<tsundoku>right
02:13<tsundoku>I did try that
02:13<tsundoku>it works, except for the AMD video card
02:13<nvz>did you try the newer firmware as well?
02:13<tsundoku>yes
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02:14<tsundoku>and just in case I was missing some package that would fix it, I wrote out the latest bullseye live ISO and booted from it
02:14<tsundoku>same issue
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02:15<tsundoku>this issue has been widely reported but all discussions I have found relating to it are inconclusive
02:15<tsundoku>and most center around gaming or other graphics-intensive applications but mine crashes just running compton with a few windows open
02:16<tsundoku>bullseye actually crashes faster than buster
02:17<tsundoku>on buster (with the stock 4.19 kernel) it tends to run for a few days and then I'll find it stuck after I come back from the weekend
02:17<tsundoku>on bullseye it usually crashes within moments of starting the GUI
02:17<tsundoku>exact same crash, though.
02:18<tsundoku>or I should say "on Linux 5.2," because running a 5.2.x kernel on buster produces the same result as a full bullseye system
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04:12<minikdo>hi, how to change LANG system-wide on Debian 10.0?
04:13<minikdo>I've done dpkg-reconfigure locales but it didn't cause apps to change language.
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05:13<EmleyMoor>Is there a guide to getting (and using) a free, properly signed, whole-domain SSL certificate, assuming all service kit is running buster?
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05:14<Nemoder>https://wiki.debian.org/LetsEncrypt same as stretch maybe?
05:16<EmleyMoor>Right... I have already done this with my XMPP server... I am seeking to do it for exim and dovecot on my mail server most urgently...
05:18<grove>I haven't read the debian wiki about it, but used other documentation (probably mostly LetsEncrypt's own) and found it easy to get *one* certificate that I can use for mail (postfix + dovecot), web (nginx) and xmpp (prosody) on my domain
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05:19<EmleyMoor>grove: Sounds like you've actually done near enough what I'd like to achieve
05:21<grove>Mostly it was about specifying multiple domains and webroots as arguments to certbot
05:22<EmleyMoor>My requirement is, at present, for a single domain, but any host therein
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05:27<grove>If you mean "any" as in a *-certificate, you'll need to use LE's dns method, I have no experience with that. Personally I've gone for just having a cert covering the domain and 6 subdomain names I actually use
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08:11<Nirgal>Hi. I'm getting mad with systemd. My script /etc/init.d/firewall is not running anymore since Debian 10. When I do "systemctl status firewall" I get information "loaded (/etc/init.d/firewall; generated)" but iptables shows no records. I tried running "SYSTEMD_LOG_LEVEL=debug /lib/systemd/system-generators/systemd-sysv-generator" and it creates a file "/tmp/firewall.service" ok ...
08:13<Mo7Qt0>Nirgal: Hi. As default, with networking and iptables, systemd not working (as I know). Try iptables-save > /etc/network/iptables.up.rules; iptables-apply
08:14<Mo7Qt0>Nirgal: then check rules with iptables -nvL
08:15<Mo7Qt0>works for me now :)
08:15<Nirgal>I am not using iptables-restore as I find to too complicated to update. I have a custom script I want to run at boot time.
08:17<Volley>Nirgal: did you have a look at things like: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-automatically-execute-shell-script-at-startup-boot-on-systemd-linux
08:17<Nirgal>I was just looking at "@reboot" target in a crontab ...
08:18<Volley>... or https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/47695/how-to-write-startup-script-for-systemd
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08:19<Nirgal>Volley: Thanks. But this only works with systemd, and I guess I'll switch back and forth between sysv... I'd like to understand why the service is there, enabled, but doesn't run :/
08:20<Volley>Nirgal: the way i understood what you wrote earlier is that you don't yet have a service?
08:21<Nirgal>Nope. I am using systemd-sysv-generator to run "firewall.service - LSB: Firewall"
08:22<Nirgal>The service is there, "systemctl list-units" shows it...
08:24<Nirgal>"systemctl enable firewal" seems to work ok. "systemctl start firewall" does work ok. But I have to do that manually at each reboot :(
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08:27<Nirgal>The script starts with a '/usr/bin/logger -t firewall "Hello world!"' so I'm pretty sure it's not run
08:30<Nirgal>brb
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08:31<Volley>i just wanted to tell him that /tmp is deleted after each reboot ...
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08:37<Volley>Nirgal: you mentioned earlier : and it creates a file "/tmp/firewall.service" - well, as far as i know the contents of /tmp won't survive a reboot ...
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08:39<Nirgal>Volley: I know, I could not find how systemd-sysv-generator is called, yet. But it is supposed to be called at boot time, it is working for other services, it generates firewall.service when called without arguments....
08:42<Volley>Nirgal: well, i guess i don't know much more that could help you. I never used systemd-sysv-generator and my sysv days are long gone. And i'm comfortable with "normal" systemd service files.
08:43<Volley>... rebooting to test some nvidia driver issues ...
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08:44<Nirgal>Found some doc in https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/pkg-systemd/rcSMigration ... Erk :(
08:45<Nirgal>Most of the rcS script have a systemd proprietary equivalent, so they decided to kill all the rcS scripts :(
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08:46<Nirgal>Ok, I gonna troll elsewhere *breeze*
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09:50<EmleyMoor>I asked about alternatives to Amarok yesterday - unfortunately I didn't keep. a note of what was suggested
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09:57<nvz>there aren't any alternatives to amarok.. there are other apps that don't measure up :P
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09:57<nvz>,v amarok
09:57<judd>Package: amarok on amd64 -- jessie: 2.8.0-2.1+b1; stretch: 2.8.0-8
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09:58<Yoda-BZH>you mentioned Rhythmbox
09:58<EmleyMoor>Yoda-BZH: Indeed... that's at least there
09:58<nvz>,i clementine
09:58<judd>Package clementine (sound, optional) in buster/amd64: modern music player and library organizer. Version: 1.3.1+git609-g623a53681+dfsg-1; Size: 4754.6k; Installed: 18861k; Homepage: http://www.clementine-player.org/; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/clementine
09:59<Yoda-BZH>for a much simpler audio player, I use audacious
09:59<nvz>clemitine is supposedly based on the amarok source
09:59<Yoda-BZH>(it looks like old winamp)
09:59<nvz>I haven't really tried it though
09:59<nvz>folk who used amarok aren't typically merely trying to play music
10:00<nvz>they're looking for good library features.. auto-tagging, album art, tempo matching, scrobbler suggestions, etc
10:00<Yoda-BZH>ow, ok
10:00<Yoda-BZH>nvm then
10:01<EmleyMoor>I liked the way Amarok handled "play queues"
10:02<nvz>something that is actually aware not only that you have music, but keeps track of what you've listened to, how recently and how often, what the tempo is, how that relates to other songs in your library based on usage of other users via scrobbler sites..
10:02<nvz>anything can play music.. these kinds of apps are more like personal djs
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10:04<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... Clementine even has an Android remote... doubt I'll need it, though
10:04<nvz>I personally haven't really been organized enough to make use of such an app in a long time, and I always just used cplay for when I'd dj.. it was simpler.. especially when drunk :P
10:06<nvz>the github is showing recent activity but the last release of clemintine was 3.5 years ago now.. so idk if its gonna be around long either..
10:07<nvz>but for the time being its the closest thing to amarok we have
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10:09<meeh__>compile it yourself
10:09<meeh__>download the sources, read the README file and have fun
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10:09<nvz>you're just talkin out your ass :P
10:10<nvz>if you mean clemintine, there is no reason to, its in debian, and if you mean amarok there is a reason its not in debian anymore.. the deps are all gone.. building it on a modern debian is not realistic
10:11<nvz>hopefully for the music enthusiasts out there clemintine will remain actively developed
10:11<nvz>because I haven't seen anything that matches its features
10:15<nvz>due to rabid SNS syndrome fueling new toolkits and libraries and the old ones falling away, we're losing lots of great software anymore.. stuff that the geniuses who developed it aren't around to update it to shiny new libraries implementing features nobody cares about :P
10:15<EmleyMoor>Is there a way I can, if I have a file containing a list of filenames relative to the current directory, list any that are missing?
10:16<nvz>EmleyMoor: yes, pipe both into sort or uniq
10:16<EmleyMoor>(i.e. in the list but not in the filesystem)
10:16<EmleyMoor>nvz: There isn't a both
10:16<nvz>yes, there is
10:16<nvz>there is the directory listing and the file containing a list
10:17<EmleyMoor>I'd need to produce the directory listing
10:17<nvz>obviously
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10:18<nvz>(ls directory/; cat list.file)|sort|uniq -d
10:18<nvz>that kinda thing
10:18<nvz>you're listing the dir and the file, sorting it, then telling uniq to print only the duplicate lines
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10:18<EmleyMoor>It's producing the directory listing in the same format that's foxing me. It's not one directory, it's a directory full of directories
10:19<nvz>you just need the ls output and file output to match.. i.e. relative or absolute paths.. use basename or such as needed
10:19<nvz>or even use md5sum, sha256sum or such as desired to ignore filenames and do actual matching
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10:19<EmleyMoor>I know what I "just" need. I'm missing the "just"
10:20<nvz>EmleyMoor: explain better what you want then.. I can't spoonfeed a picky baby bird who doesn't say what it wants :P
10:20<EmleyMoor>ls
10:20<EmleyMoor>Erk
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10:21<EmleyMoor>Basically, a list of everything below the working directory, relative thereto
10:21<nvz>you should probably use find instead or a glob
10:21*nvz asks greycat
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10:22<grummund>for f in $(<myfiles.list); do [[ -f $f ]] || printf 'missing: %s\n' "$f"; done
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10:25<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... now the presence of spaces in the file is proving problematic but I might find a way round that
10:26<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... seems "nothing"
10:26<EmleyMoor>Bloody phone app playing silly things again
10:30<nvz>thats just a matter of proper quoting
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10:31<nvz>in that example the printf is quoted but the test is not
10:31<meeh__>lol
10:31<meeh__>its pretty damn simple
10:31<meeh__>read the README file in the source
10:31<EmleyMoor>Test seems to be backward too
10:31<grummund>nvz: correct. quoting not needed inside [[ ]]
10:33<nvz>I do like the redirect though.. I need to use that more often
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10:41<grummund>mapfile -t myfiles < myfiles.list; for f in "${myfiles[@]}"; do [[ -f $f ]] || printf 'missing: %s\n' "$f"; done
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10:41<grummund>nvz: ^ it works with spaces
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10:41<nvz>interesting
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10:51<grummund>Anyone know if the debian installer would permit LUKS encryption of / and swap, and needing only a single password at boot, *without* using LVM ?
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10:57<GyrosGeier>not directly, AFAIK
10:58<GyrosGeier>it can be done by storing the password for the swap partition in the crypttab
10:58<GyrosGeier>that particular case I'd set up by creating an extra partition that will become swap later, but not add it in the installer
10:59<GyrosGeier>and then configure swap after the first boot
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10:59<grummund>thanks
10:59<GyrosGeier>i.e. set up the LUKS, add the swap partition to the crypttab, test that it works, then rebuild the initrd
10:59<GyrosGeier>the last step is important
11:00<GyrosGeier>easiest way to do that is "dpkg-reconfigure initramfs-tools"
11:01<grummund>ok understood
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11:03<grummund>having decided to have / on a single partition i'd rather avoid lvm unless it's necessary.
11:03<grummund>presumable /boot needs to be separate still.
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11:20<GyrosGeier>grummund, /boot or /boot/efi
11:20<grummund>GyrosGeier: thanks again
11:21<GyrosGeier>if you boot from UEFI, you can use systemd-boot, which needs a bit of coercion to work properly, but it keeps kernel and initrd in the ESP so no need for evil tricks
11:21<GyrosGeier>"bit of coercion" means that they are missing the scripts to react to kernels being installed
11:23*grummund opts for an easier life, usually. :p
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11:24<grummund>also disk will be mirrored, so LUKS on top of RAID1.
11:25<jhutchins_wk>grummund: Are you doing this to learn, or is there a specific threat you're guarding against?
11:26<grummund>jhutchins_wk: it's a laptop. the threat is it gets stolen.
11:29<GyrosGeier>booting from a RAID1 is still annoying
11:29<GyrosGeier>not as annoying as booting from a RAID5
11:29<GyrosGeier>but getting there
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11:30<grummund>what do you find annoying about it? the only catch i have found is grub must be manually [re-]installed on each disk.
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11:31<GyrosGeier>yes
11:31<GyrosGeier>lilo understands RAID
11:31<GyrosGeier>since then, software has gone downhill
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11:57<jhutchins_wk>GyrosGeier: Lilo's still available.
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11:58<GyrosGeier>true
11:58<GyrosGeier>but there is nothing RAID aware that also works with EFI
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12:37<grummund>Is there a generic method to enable/disable a service agnostic of whether it is init.d script or systemd? in the same way that 'service' command does for start/stop.
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12:40<nvz>!update-rc.d
12:40<dpkg>update-rc.d is used to manipulate System V style init script links, which are used to stop/start system services. Read the update-rc.d man page for a good introduction to Debian's boot process. For front-ends, ask me about <rcconf>, <sysv-rc-conf>, <bum>. See also <insserv>.
12:40<nvz>hmm.. idk if they updated that to work with systemd or not
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12:41<nvz>though afaik systemd doesn't actually support init.d scripts, it just makes a unit file for them
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12:46<jhutchins_wk>I believe that systemctl handles the enabling/disabling of that unit file, so it would be the universal tool.
12:46<grummund>then 'service' command is now pretty much redundant?
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12:48<jhutchins_wk>grummund: Well, handy in a mixed environment for start/stop/status
12:49<nvz>yeah the arguments being reversed is a bit annoying :P
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12:52<grummund>jhutchins_wk: handier still if it would pass through enable/disable to update-rc.d
12:52<grummund>... not a complaint, just an observation.
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12:58<nvz>systemd was supposedly all about addressing the issue of properly booting the linux kernel, then it just became a hypervisor and didn't seem to care what it broke :P
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14:29<jhutchins_wk>grummund: I don't think the init files get updated, just the unit files.
14:31<grummund>jhutchins_wk: afaict 'service' command simply doesn't support enable/disable, whatever system is in use.
14:32<jhutchins_wk>grummund: Yeah, I don't think it does. I never used it for that.
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14:32<jhutchins_wk>grummund: With init, you actually don't mess with rc.d, you mess with the runlevel folders that have links back to rc.d.
14:33<grummund>itym init.d but yeah.
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14:49<jhutchins_wk>Yeah, init knowledge is slowly rotting away, I'm not even going to check.
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15:08<EmleyMoor>Planning an installation of buster onto an HP desktop tomorrow/Saturday, in Derbyshire
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15:11<EmleyMoor>It runs the live stick OK - so not expecting problems - doing it by the "swapout and fresh install" method, though, to be on the safe side
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15:45<RattusRattus>EmleyMoor: ack it never ceases to amaze me when my wife (and daughter) share my enthusiasm for Debian, enough that my daughter <strike>is likly to have</strike> WILL have stuff in the archive before me
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15:46<RattusRattus>hi amink .
15:48<jhutchins_wk>My wife's opinion of XFCE is that it stays out of her way. She's used Windows and Macs and frankly prefers Linux.
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15:54<jhutchins_wk>GyrosGeier: I seem to remember that lilo was one of the bootloader options I looked at when I was building Linux Mac Minis. It works with EFI.
15:54<jhutchins_wk>GyrosGeier: In fact, that was before grub did. About ten years ago.
15:56<annadane>i've used xfce and it's fine but i've found mate feels snappier and perhaps better designed
15:56<annadane>now, whether that changes with xfce 4.16 when bullseye releases...
16:00<annadane>the problem is i prefer xfce's applications
16:00<annadane>and being panel focused you can just put them there as opposed to mate
16:00<annadane>"panels" in mate are a bit of a joke
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16:05<jhutchins_wk>I've only tried gnome once, and that was quite a while ago. I did not find it attractive, very OS2 at a time when that meant obsolete, and I did not like the design philosophy. Processes that started when I logged in continued to run when I logged out, way too many components, way to little control.
16:06<bremner>I kinda like gnome3
16:06<jhutchins_wk>I ran KDE for a while, but found the transition to 4 very difficult. Amarok no longer worked, my very extensive address book was destroyed, and iirc there were four indexing databases running at the same time.
16:06<bremner>it's not my daily driver, but it's ok
16:06<jhutchins_wk>XFCE stays out of my way. I don't need jiggly windows.
16:10<amadann>you want stays out of the way? openbox for life! (or until wayland gets forced on us for real)
16:11<annadane>to each their own, but openbox takes a bit of work to actually be usable as a DE
16:11<annadane>it comes with NOTHING
16:12<annadane>i also wish the various *box didn't come with predefined menus for applications that don't exist but that's another conversation
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16:13<jhutchins_wk>I've spent quite a while now working with computers for a living. Tinkering with desktop details doesn't really appeal to me. My computer is a tool, not a toy.
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16:15<annadane>"editors -> emacs" when emacs isn't even installed etc etc
16:16<jhutchins_wk>annadane: That sounds like a flawed design. Not following opendesktop standards.
16:16<jhutchins_wk>annadane: I've hit the opposite, when you can't get an entry into the menu for a new program.
16:17<amadann>NOTHING sure stays out of your way :)> on the spectrum of automation vs manual configuration, the *boxes are way on the manual side. but once done, it's perfectly mine. i haven't changed my wm/de in over a decade (over many systems and debian installs). my computers are tools, not toys.
16:17<annadane>stripped down window managers are fine but i like desktop environments because they come with productivity tools that you're going to probably add later anyway
16:17<annadane>that said, bloat = bad and that makes something like xfce great
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16:17<annadane>i could never use KDE full time
16:19<jhutchins_wk>What's really disappointing was that KDE 3.5 was pretty lean and functional, and the integration of things like being able to print an envelope from the address book was almost working.
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16:20<annadane>at least with xfce you often forget you're even using a desktop environment, it just tends to naturally follow the flow of things
16:20<annadane>and it has great applications, and a detailed settings-editor and really sane defaults
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16:22<annadane>the only thing i don't really like about xfce is how you can't add individual wallpapers, you have to enter the folder the wallpaper is in... but it's wallpaper, who really cares
16:22<jhutchins_wk>annadane: That's a bug.
16:22<annadane>no, not that
16:23<annadane>the bug that was a bug got fixed
16:23<jhutchins_wk>annadane: In buster? Or in stretch.
16:23<annadane>xfce is still fundamentally folder based in terms of wallpaper selection
16:23<annadane>fixed in buster
16:25<jhutchins_wk>annadane: I have a photo from my photography collection that's in it's original path on the home desktop.
16:26<annadane>right, i mean, you really don't need to care about the wallpaper, it's very irrelevant
16:26<jhutchins_wk>Can't drill down to choose a new photo though since the upgrade.
16:26<jhutchins_wk>Yeah, I haven't even set it on this VM, I'm always full-screen anyway.
16:26<annadane>i say that as someone who likes to stare at wallpaper :P
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18:37<Yst>Several pieces of software in Debian use the same "natural number sorting", and I think I heard they're getting it from the same library. Does anyone know what library that would be?
18:38<Yst>Wow. WeeChat's channel list is royally messed up on this machine.
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18:41<Yst>That's better.
18:42<Yst>Oh, Debian 10 is out. Nice. I'll upgrade to that when I have time to back up my data and wipe the machine.
18:44<Yst>Anyway, I can't figure out how to turn off this "natural number sorting", which is annoying, especially in file managers. I figure if I can find the right library, I might be able to edit the source slightly to make the sorting work the same as C-based sorting and recompile.
18:44<Yst>It's a long shot, but I don't seem to be able to find any other solutions.
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19:26<plouj>Was there ever a '4.9.2-10' (not 4.9.2-10+deb8u2) version of libgcc1 for Jessie? If so, where can I download it? I'm not seeing it in http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/binary-arm64/Packages.gz
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20:17<ullbeking>annagram: on an older laptop (lenovo thinkpad x200) kde actually works nicely and gnome is barely usable
20:17<ullbeking>it's due to how the graphics rendering has been implementing
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21:45<inkbottle>The installer proposes to use LVM and to encrypt the disk
21:46<inkbottle>I was wondering where is the script doing that?
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21:49<inkbottle>https://wiki.debian.org/LVM#Encrypted_LVM
21:49<inkbottle>might be what I'm looking for
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22:11<plouj>found it on https://snapshot.debian.org/package/gcc-4.9/4.9.2-10/#libgcc1_1:3a:4.9.2-10
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22:42<ullbeking>inkbottle: the Libreboot installation and subsequent booting instructions *MIGHT* be helpful
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23:56<wannabe-mirror>what about this one. i have some 900-ish images named NMAGxxxx.JPG, where xxxx is a number. every second of them starting from the first one should be rotated 90 degrees counter-clockwise and the rest 90 degrees clockwise, preferably in a lossless fashion. any ideas?
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23:58<wannabe-mirror>(it's a book i scanned with a hand scanner. until now i've rotated the pages by hand, but i'm confident it can be done easier)
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