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01:14<casperov>Hey all
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01:19<Mo7Qt0>Hi :)
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02:23<kunningd>hello does anyone know where I can disable password to suspend the system?
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02:27<jm_>are you using gnome?
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02:27<kunningd>no
02:27<kunningd>xfce
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02:30<aloo_shu>things like that usually happen to me if root is logged in - then the system finds it shoule be consulted
02:30<aloo_shu>too late
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02:30<aloo_shu>things like that usually happen to me if root is logged in - then the system finds it shoule be consulted
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02:30<aloo_shu>*should
02:31<kunningd>not sure why it's happening
02:31<kunningd>im not rooted
02:31<jm_>kunningd: try suggestions from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1605189
02:31<aloo_shu>i.e. some termibnal window open, synaptic runnaing as root
02:35<kunningd>had a simmilar bug when I was using xubuntu
02:35<kunningd>thanks for the link jm_, might be the same thing on debian
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03:09<nvz>kunningd: my system doesn't require a password to do any such things.. it suspends/shutsdown without it
03:10<mendelmunkis>probably somewhere under /etc/pam*
03:14<kunningd>Im gonna try the solution linked by jm
03:15<kunningd>do you use xfce nvz?
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03:27<annadane>is there, uh, like a dock thing i can install and put on xfce so i can move items that are cluttering my panel and put there so i can access them later?
03:27<annadane>not workspaces
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03:28<annadane>you can't transfer items to xfce panels i think unfortunately
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03:39<towo^work>annadane, try plank. it's a MacOS like dock
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04:23<swenray>Hello everybody ! How you doing ? I'm on Debian 9.9. I want to format my usb drive as exFAT, yet Gparted has greyed out the exFAT file system... any idea ? Went on duckduckgo but no real debian way found there...
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04:26<jm_>do you have exfat-utils package installed?
04:26<swenray>yes I do.
04:26<jm_>in that case I would just use mkfs.exfat CLI tool
04:26<swenray>is it user interface or command line ?
04:27<jm_>!CLI
04:27<dpkg>[cli] Command Line Interface, the best form of interface around. See http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=6282&page=1 or ask me about <general cli tutorial>. Call-Level Interface, originally developed by SQL Access Group, but now known as Microsoft's <ODBC> standard. Common Language Infrastructure, ask me about <mono>.
04:27<jm_>:)
04:27<annadane>actually, i may as well ask
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04:27<annadane>when making a new filesystem on a drive is it recommended to mount or unmount it? or does it not matter?
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04:28<jm_>it needs to be unmounted
04:28<swenray>I would say unmount, as gparted does it when you make changes.
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04:39<grove>What you mount is not a drive, it's a filesystem (and what you make filesystems on are not drives, but partitions - or some logic equivalent if you use e.g. LVM).
04:41<grummund>is there a way to pause/capture/scrollback the system init boot messages?
04:42*grummund sees [FAIL] fly by in red before video switches to the X login.
04:42<mendelmunkis>try journalctl
04:43<annadane>systemctl --state=failed, in your case
04:43<jm_>try systemctl failed
04:44<grummund>thanks, that helps.
04:44<swenray>jm_ is "mkfs.exfat /dev/sdb " enough to erase content of usb drive, and change it's partition to the exfat filesystem ?
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04:45<jm_>swenray: yes and no, like grove said above, you probably want to create and use a partition on the drive, so it would then be /dev/sdb1 (double check it's the right device)
04:47<annadane>always always double triple check anything mkfs or dd or cp
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04:48<grove>And it depends a bit on your definition of "erase content". Does it mean the content can't be visible to the casual observer that gets hold of the usb drive and inserts it into his/her computer? Does it mean it has to be impossible for the NSA to find & read if they know it was on that USB drive?
04:49<swenray>Okay, so the small partition of my usb is to be changed ? I have sdb1 that is empty under the "type" label, and sdb2 EFI (FAT -12/16/32)
04:50<swenray>grove oh, nothing like that, I asked myself if I had to erase content before formating, or if I could just let it as is. I don't care about the content of the drive.
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04:51<grummund>to check it's the right device: udevadm info --query=property /dev/sda
04:51<grummund>or /dev/sdb, or whatever.
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04:52<grummund>then fdisk -l /dev/sdX (or whatever)
04:52<jm_>also tools like lsblk, blkid, cat /proc/partitions will help
04:53<grove>swenray: Then just making a new filesystem would work for you
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05:42<m4iir1c10>Hello world ! :)
05:43<annadane>allo
05:43<annadane>this part of the world is about to go to sleep, however
05:43<annadane>enjoy the other 7 billion people
05:44<m4iir1c10>Oh wow... I am about to have lunch... but from wherever you are, good night !!!
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06:25<nvz>annadane: you may be about to go to sleep.. nowhere in the world is it currently a typical bedtime right now.. latest time is about 7:30pm in Korea/Japan or such in reality most folk in our timezone are just waking up :P
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06:30<duclicsic>.. because there is nothing east of japan as we all know...
06:30<duclicsic>it's just after midnight in Hawaii
06:30<duclicsic>22:30 in New Zealand
06:31<duclicsic>seems like reasonable bed times to me
06:31<duclicsic></offtopic>
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06:43<saqib-wani>heya
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06:51<grove>nvz: On IRC there is no such thing as "our timezone". People here live all around the globe
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06:56<drzacek>Hello there
06:56<drzacek>I'm on debian with Mate desktop here. The task panel (the one that holds icons of currently running programs) has 2 rows. Any way to force single row display?
06:57<drzacek>grove, internet is polish, so the official timezone is GMT+1, just so you know
06:58<nvz>grove: yes but annadane and I live in the same part
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07:16<tarzeau>is there a channel of debian sid users?
07:16<Mikaela>try #debian-next
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08:59<crin>hi
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09:07<RattusRattus>it never stops amusing me that people drop into a chat room - say hi and then leave all in the space of a few seconds... what did they hope to achive?
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09:09<chen>中秋放假么、
09:09<bremner>!zh
09:09<dpkg>如果您想要以中文得到 Debian 相關的協助,請加入 irc.debian.org 或 irc.oftc.net 上的 #dot 頻道,連線與加入頻道的方法請參閱 IRC 程式之相關說明,或於網路上搜尋。謝謝您的合作!
09:10<bremner>at a guess, based on one character.
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09:13<bremner>#debian-til
09:13<bremner>oops
09:17<chen> Where can I download telnet source code?
09:18<bremner>"apt source inetutils-telnet" is one version
09:18<bremner>I think there are a few versions of telnet in debian
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09:22<ach>!telnet
09:22<dpkg>telnet is, like, an old protocol for remotely logging in to another computer. It is one of the basic utilities for TCP/IP. Very insecure as it sends all traffic in plaintext! Seriously consider using Secure Shell instead, ask me about <ssh>. There's also telnet-ssl - which has encryption and certificates support - but is useless without a remote telnetd-ssl or HTTPS server. See also <qotd44>.
09:23<ach>!next
09:23<dpkg>Another happy customer leaves the building.
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09:26<chen>!sshd
09:26<dpkg>OpenSSH (OpenBSD Secure Shell, http://www.openssh.com/) is a free implementation of the Secure Shell (<SSH>) protocol. Packaged for Debian as openssh-server and openssh-client (install the ssh <metapackage> for both). SSH protocol 1 is disabled by default as of openssh 1:5.4p1-1. "Getting started with SSH": http://kimmo.suominen.com/docs/ssh/
09:27<tarzeau>!qotd44
09:27<dpkg><morning> telnet have any recent vulns?
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09:35<chen> Thank you. I found it. apt source is very useful.
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09:38<bremner>yep, pretty important for debian to provide sources
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10:47<Guest2400>anyone?
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10:48<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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12:28<whitedavil>hi
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12:28<whitedavil>i am from Bangladesh.
12:28<whitedavil>can i meet the new people
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13:39<Konomi>I'm having trouble understanding what the profile= parameter of schroot.conf does, the manual file has no information for it https://manpages.debian.org/buster/schroot/schroot.conf.5.en.html does anyone know?
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13:42<Konomi>nevermind it's sort of explained half way down rather than where the parameter is
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13:56*grummund experiencing with X hanging now and then, just for a few seconds each time. found this in dmesg:
13:56<grummund>[drm] GPU HANG: ecode 4:0:0x86e0fafe, in Xorg [668], reason: hang on rcs0, action: reset
13:56<grummund>i915 0000:00:02.0: Resetting chip for hang on rcs0
13:57<grummund>any ideas how to investigate/fix this?
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13:59<Konomi>gpu?
14:00<grummund>yes, looks like it.
14:00<grummund>is it possible to increase log verbosity or get a dump or something...?
14:00<Konomi>no the name of your gpu....
14:02<sqrt{not}>Looks like bug #907911
14:02<judd>Bug https://bugs.debian.org/907911 in src:linux (forwarded, upstream): «linux: Resetting chip after gpu hang (crash dump) when zooming on the opencaching.de map»; severity: normal; opened: 2018-09-03; last modified: 2018-12-19.
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14:03<grummund>Konomi: GM965/GL960 according to lshw
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14:04<Konomi>there yo ho sqrt{not} found it
14:05<grummund>the dmesg text is subtlety difference but yes
14:05<Konomi>looks the asme to me
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14:05<Konomi>[ 5766.948809] [drm] GPU HANG: ecode 4:0:0x86e0fafe, in Xorg [2501], reason: Hang on rcs0, action: reset
14:06<grummund>Resetting chip for hang on rcs0 vs. Resetting chip after gpu hang
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14:07<grummund>any idea how to increase the verbosity to be like in that bug report?
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14:08<Konomi>[ 5766.948840] [drm] GPU crash dump saved to /sys/class/drm/card0/error
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14:10<grummund>thanks, yes it created /sys/class/drm/card0/error (just not mentioned in the dmesg log)
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14:11<Konomi>wanna paste it so I can take a look?
14:11<Konomi>in a pastebin ofc
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14:13<grummund>sure - http://paste.debian.net/1100314/
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14:20<Konomi>can't find anything besides the original debian bug and upstream which has no comments sadly
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14:24<grummund>thanks for looking anyway
14:26<grummund>another bug report suggests intel_iommu=on, but it's from 4 years ago, is that worth a try?
14:27<grummund>https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92814#c3
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14:30<Konomi>might be if you have nothing to go on
14:31<Konomi>intel_idle.max_cstate=1 another one that might be worth trying no clue if they'll help
14:35<Konomi>your dump also has a buch of parameters at the end of the i915 module
14:35<Konomi>might be worth investigating
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15:18<dunningk>hello everyone
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15:23<dunningk>how's it going?
15:23<dunningk>ok
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15:24<sqrt{not}>welcome dunningk. Debian questions welcome here; for chatting try channel #debian-offtopic
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15:36<leon_cio>hi
15:37<leon_cio>i have some problems with eclipse since las debian update
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15:41<sqrt{not}>leon_cio: we will try to help. tell us more details. w
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15:45<leon_cio>I'm looking for some log file
15:45<leon_cio>from crash
15:47<jhutchins_wk>leon_cio: What crashed? What were you doing when it happened?
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15:48<leon_cio>these problems had hapend when eclipse was updating maven dependencies
15:48<leon_cio>eclipse photon
15:48<leon_cio>maven 3.6.2
15:50<leon_cio>java version for eclipse and maven
15:50<leon_cio>/opt/java/jre1.8.0_45
15:50<leon_cio>sorry, for eclise only
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15:51<leon_cio>for maven and build level: openjdk-12.0.2
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15:55<sqrt{not}>leon_cio: maven 3.6.2 is from debian unstable, are you updating from debian versions ?
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15:57<leon_cio>maven from manual instalation
15:58<leon_cio>not from repository
15:58<leon_cio>Im inspecting eclipse log and it's a poem
15:58<leon_cio>there is a lot of problems.
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15:59<leon_cio>If I want to identify the correct problem I think first I will have to reproduce crash
15:59<leon_cio>then i will ask again
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15:59<leon_cio>thanks sqrt!
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16:02<sqrt{not}>leon_cio: OK, good luck
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16:03<sqrt{not}>leon_cio: looks like a mix of debian/non-debian, old/new, but we will try to help you sort it out.
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16:59<anonimo_>hi
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17:00<anonimo_>hello
17:00<annadane>anonimo_, hi
17:01<annadane>if you have a question you need to ask it to get a response, saying "hi" can be hard to respond to because we can't read your mind that you have a question
17:01<annadane>don't wait to be addressed, just ask
17:01<anonimo_>what moment
17:02-!-mode/#debian [+o jelly] by ChanServ
17:03<anonimo_>do you speak Spanish
17:03<annadane>!es
17:03<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
17:03<anonimo_>I am from colombia
17:03<annadane>or send a message to debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
17:03<annadane>because #debian-es doesn't have a lot of people
17:04<@jelly>Current Debian release is buster, 10.1 point release /msg dpkg 10.1; /msg dpkg buster; /msg dpkg stretch->buster; /msg dpkg apt suite changed | Oldstable Stretch: /msg dpkg stretch ; /msg dpkg 9.11 ; 9.11 needs dist-upgrade | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg paste | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | testing/unstable: #debian-next | chanlogs: /msg dpkg irclog
17:05-!-jelly changed the topic of #debian to: Current Debian release is buster, 10.1 point release /msg dpkg 10.1; /msg dpkg buster; /msg dpkg stretch->buster; /msg dpkg apt suite changed | Oldstable Stretch: /msg dpkg stretch ; /msg dpkg 9.11 ; 9.11 needs dist-upgrade | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg paste | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | testing/unstable: #debian-next | chanlogs: /msg dpkg irclog
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17:06<anonimo_>poco comprendo el ingles
17:07<annadane>envíe un mensaje a debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org o pregunte en # debian-es
17:08<annadane>#debian-es *
17:09<nvz>heh
17:09<annadane>yeah, i know. i accept no responsibility for how bad google translate may be
17:10<nvz>that seems worse than google translate typically is
17:11<nvz>wth did you type? "Undersand little english?"
17:11<anonimo_>gracias
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17:12<anonimo_>es que el primera ves que descargue linux parrot security
17:12<nvz>!parrot
17:12<dpkg>Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrotsec on Freenode, the community pages https://docs.parrotsec.org/community, or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
17:12<annadane>sigh.
17:12<anonimo_>y quiero aprender a usarlo
17:12<annadane>anonimo_, parrot no es debian
17:13<annadane>you handle this one, nvz :P
17:13<anonimo_>donde puedo buscar informacion sobre esto
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17:19<sqrt{not}>pah, google translate. the infobot guide claims the bots can translate using babelfish on altavista.com
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17:20<annadane>hitchhiker's guide to irc stupidity?
17:21<annadane>people mock altavista and ask jeeves but at least they didn't sell their soul to the devil and track everything you do and inject ads into their search results aaaaand i digress
17:22<annadane>also, spaniards using parrot is a serious mental affliction that should probably be looked at
17:23<sqrt{not}>http://www.infobot.org/guide-0.43.x.html
17:23<fdelapena>from Colombia != spaniard
17:23<annadane>well, spanish speaking persons.
17:24<annadane>i want to be a hacker, i'll use parrot and then ask in debian irc for support (probably because the parrot hexchat maintainers set #debian as the default channel, or something)
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17:27<nvz>could be worse, you could be paying for OFFSEC crapcourses and not even know how to use IRC
17:29<nvz>sqrt{not}: that still exists?
17:30<sqrt{not}>nvz: yup, looking at it now
17:30<annadane>i hear parrot is actually *less* dangerous to use as a beginner than kali
17:30<nvz>annadane: hispanohablantes
17:30<annadane>but beginners still shouldn't use it...
17:31<mendelmunkis> of course if your not a beginner you don't actually need a specialized distro
17:31<nvz>sqrt{not}: I just found out about blackle yesterday, made me chuckle
17:31<annadane>debian has to be the most idiot proof OS, which is why beginners are well suited to use it... even ubuntu has broken for a lot of people (hardware limitations of debian aside)
17:31<annadane>all you basically have to do is read wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian, have some common sense, and figure things out slowly
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17:44<annadane>(yes you can raise counterpoints like freebsd or nixos being more idiot proof but those aren't exactly entry level)
17:46<annadane>if you're using those chances are you already know your way around the block a little bit, on a technical level and a cultural level
17:47<annadane>systemd issues aside - which not everyone runs into - debian provides the perfect mix of simplicity and sane defaults and predictability and is sufficiently visible so that newbies are likely to give it a chance
17:48<ach>Debian is idiot proof
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17:54<bremner>nothing is idiot proof except idiots
17:55<ach>!ok
18:00<ach>no
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18:09<TempHorse>hi
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18:09<TempHorse>is there any ml project in Debian?
18:10<TempHorse>anyone??
18:10<TempHorse>??
18:11<phunyguy>patience. You must not understand how IRC works.
18:11<TempHorse>i know its on Ip address , technology of 1950s
18:12<binaryhermit>IRC isn't instant support
18:12<binaryhermit>And I strongly suspect that the answer is either "yes" or "no, but you can install one that's not in the repos"
18:13<TempHorse>Internet Relay Chat Protocol (IRCP) is an application layer protocol that facilitates communication in the form of text. The chat process works on a client/server networking model. IRC clients are computer programs that a user can install on their system. These clients communicate with chat servers to transfer messages to other
18:13<blast007>TempHorse: please don't start
18:13<binaryhermit>and it appears I'm right https://www.google.com/search?q=debian+tensorflow for example
18:13<TempHorse>nope
18:13<TempHorse>i already saw that
18:13<annadane>i don't know what ml is
18:13<binaryhermit>I'm not really up on machine learning but tensorflow is one well known machine learning thingy
18:13<blast007>machine learning
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18:14<TempHorse>i contributed on ML
18:14<TempHorse>tensor-flow
18:14<annadane>https://paste.debian.net/1100470/
18:15<annadane>or you could be more specific in your question
18:15<annadane>what do you need machine learning for, what are you working on, what is your current problem
18:15<blast007>annadane: judging by the last few days.. no.. I don't think they can be :)
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18:16<binaryhermit>I would ask what you mean, but meh
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18:17<TempHorse>well i got my answer what i was looking for.
18:17<TempHorse>thanks annadane
18:17<TempHorse>and others too
18:18<binaryhermit>given that debian's not like iOS in that there's only one place you can get software from without hacking the heck out of the os...
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18:19<binaryhermit>I mean, generally it's arguably preferable to stick with the official repos when possible, but it's not like it's got a control-freak corporate overlord
18:20<TempHorse>well iOS simple and that most top dev respects , life is too short for complications
18:21<binaryhermit>given the nature of linux, if debian did that, it'd be worked around quickly, possibly by users jumping ship
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18:36<annadane>lynx is fairly confusing to me, i prefer elinks
18:37<rotty>where can I find the documentation of the interface a package providing `mail-transport-agent` needs to fulfill? I'm especially interested in the contract on the `sendmail` binary.
18:38<rotty>the https://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.txt is just what the name implies, and not really provide any details on the virtual packages' contracts.
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18:44<somiaj>rotty: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-customized-programs.html#mail-transport-delivery-and-user-agents
18:45<somiaj>I found that, unsure if that gives more details or not.
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21:49<denisbr>iuiututa, hi!
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22:31<sakax>deborphan is showing cryptsetup as obsolete in buster
22:31<sakax>this is correct??
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22:37<blast007>sakax: read the description of cryptsetup in buster: https://packages.debian.org/buster/cryptsetup
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22:45<sakax>blast007: removing it also wants to remove cryptsetup-bin cryptsetup-initramfs and cryptsetup-run
22:46<sakax>this is normal behaviour under buster?
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22:46<denisbr>Any people are trying to write in the channel but return the error Cannot send to channel, why ?
22:46<blast007>denisbr: which channel?
22:47<denisbr>this! #debian
22:47<blast007>denisbr: you're sending a message to this channel, so...
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22:48<blast007>sakax: dunno. are you removing it just because deborphan tells you to?
22:49<blast007>sakax: did you upgrade from stretch?
22:49<annadane>iuiututa is posting in the other #debian, the freenode channel
22:49<annadane>we are seeing your messages
22:49<annadane>do you mean on freenode?
22:49<sakax>yes, upgraded from stretch, like 3 months ago, just verified deborphan today
22:50<denisbr>annadane, ah ok
22:50<sakax>it is indeed a transitional package, but removing it seems to want to remove 3 other packages which appear to be important but I am not an expert in the whole disk encryption topic
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23:17<Reddragon>I am looking for small debian image which can boot vrom boios 20_MB help needed
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23:21<Reddragon>I use cireboot and 32MB bios I would like to boot from a debian image from the net
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23:23<Reddragon>sorry coreboot
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23:27<Reddragon>iPXE succesfull boot from the demopage the but I woul like to nóboot I would like to world wide
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23:51<Reddragon>www denian boot by www
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