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#debian IRC Logs for 2019-10-09

---Logopened Wed Oct 09 00:00:49 2019
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00:04-!-dreamer is "fuck dalnet and their shitty service" on #debian #debian-next #nurds @#puik. #wesp
00:04<annadane>he didn't specify "edit photos"
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02:58<libaofeng>i see
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04:17<doobz>Does anybody know if this line from Xorg.0.log should be there or not. This is on a fresh install of Buster/Stretch - (WW) Warning, couldn't open module nv
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04:22<jm_>well do you have a card that would require it?
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04:24<doobz>I don't know. My gpu is nvdia 7600GO and I have issues on fresh installs of Jessie/Stretch/Buster.
04:24<jm_>can you put the xorg log on the paste site?
04:25<jm_>!paste
04:25<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: http://paste.debian.net | pics/screenshots: http://file.io/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): http://file.io or http://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
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04:27<doobz>http://paste.debian.net/1105505/
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04:30<jm_>it looks OK, it's using nouveau_drv
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04:31<jm_>so what are the issues then?
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04:40<doobz>Issues are 360 degree vids (in browser) are garbled and some compositing effects are not working as they should. Don't notice on XFCE, but apparent on kde plasma with default config.
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04:42<doobz>Using the proprietary driver ungarbles the videos, but they don't display as they should, I just get to see a patchwork 2d video.
04:43<doobz>glxgears works, but when I try glmark2, I get seg fault with the nouveau driver at test3, and it fails to start with the proprietary driver giving some lines of errors.
04:45<jm_>phmm I can try glmark2 at home with nvidia driver (assuming it doesn't have too many dependencies and I remember to test it later)
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04:51<doobz>The error msg from glmark2 hints at opengl linking inconstistences. http://paste.debian.net/1105508/
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04:52<doobz>Have found quite a few similar with folks using similarly aged nvidia h/w
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05:05<linux77>hi great guy, good morning at all!
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05:10<linux77>guys i have made four software for linux with debian and maybe these softwares help people in educational task, any have interest to known any of my projects?
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05:11<annadane>!nmg
05:11<dpkg>The packaging tutorial (http://deb.li/QYyI) and the New Maintainer's Guide (http://deb.li/3DiDA) are good places to start learning about Debian packaging. You should also ask me about <devref> and <policy> to understand how packages should be maintained and how they should interact with each other. Ask me about <package basics>, <mentors>, <best practices> <build without helper>. http://www.debian.org/devel/
05:12<annadane>linux77, ^
05:12<linux77>ok annadane
05:13<linux77>very thanks!
05:14<linux77>but i need to known if any person have interest to use them to direct my time to devel in the right way
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05:15<linux77>i had used speak-ng to made a box auto-teach with voice! it's funny.
05:15<annadane>that's a good question, for which i don't have an issue, someone else can answer
05:15<annadane>er
05:15<annadane>don't have an answer*
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08:22<linux77>Hello, anyone has interest in help me with 4 free software projects, the 4 already are running!
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08:49<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
08:49<cc>linux77 ^
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08:52<linux77>any school teacher here (please excuse the offtopic)?
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08:55<annadane>so i don't really know how to answer you... you're asking if people will use your product if you make it?
08:55<annadane>i'm sure someone will...
08:56<annadane>or do you need help actually packaging it or working on it?
08:56<ach>!hot
08:56<dpkg>from memory, hot is #del#
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08:58<linux77>is exactly it annadane
08:58<linux77>i need help to package these projects and work with me in divulgation
08:58<annadane>the latter? you need help? try #debian-mentors
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08:59<linux77>ok my friend, excuse if i importunate
08:59<linux77>i try it
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09:01<sabrina>salut
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09:03<sabrina>je cherche des ordis portables et netbooks pour reconditionnement,j'habite en suisse
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09:07<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr or #debian-quebec. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr or #debian-quebec.
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09:46<schooo>where is samba
09:47<tarzeau>in rio!
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09:49<schooo>where in sparky is samba
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09:50<dpkg>SparkyLinux is a Linux distribution based on <testing>. It is not supported in #debian or #debian-next. http://sparkylinux.org/ See also <based on debian>.
09:51<sabrina>vous pouvez?
09:52<sabrina>si vous etes a lausanne
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10:05<qi_>Is there a copy of Debian .iso's on IPFS? https://ipfs.io?
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10:48<sandman888>is there a repository that I can download onto a usb stick or cd so that i can install utilities onto a debian box that is not connected to the internet
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10:49<pyx>try
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11:04<dixi>здравствуйте
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11:06<thsnr>!ru
11:06<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.oftc.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
11:07<dixi>ok
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11:10<dixi>Help please. I need to register a static ip. but when I do it in setbom the Manager and lose your Internet connection.
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11:35<petn-randall>dixi: What is "setbom"?
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11:44<dixi>Help please. I need to register a static ip. but when I do it in the network Manager I lose connection to the Internet.
11:44<somiaj>are you setting the static ip correctly, if you don't configure the gateway/netmask approrpriate to your network that could explain loss of the internet.
11:45<somiaj>depending on the network, the defaults may or may not be appropriate.
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11:47<dixi>I'm using the address, mask, and gateway. This keeps the gateway connected to other devices on the network, but there is no Internet.
11:48<somiaj>Without actual details and output from things like 'ip addr' so we can see how your interface is configured and info about your network we can really only guess what the issue could be
11:48<somiaj>another guess, is your static ip conflicting with another ip on the network?
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11:49<dixi>another guess, is your static ip conflicting with another ip on the network?
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11:50<dixi>gateway 192.168.1.1 mask 255.255.255.0 address 192.168.1.150 . the address does not conflict.
11:50<somiaj>okay, now start working your way out, 'ping 192.168.1.150' can you ping your interface? 'ping 192.168.1.1' can you ping your gateway? 'ping 8.8.8.8' can you ping google's name server?
11:51<dixi>there is no Internet connection
11:51<somiaj>no internet connection is vague, you need to give us actual info
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11:54<dixi_>okay, now start working your way out, 'ping 192.168.1.150' can you ping your interface? 'ping 192.168.1.1' can you ping your gateway? 'ping 8.8.8.8' can you ping google's name server?
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11:55<dixi_>ping 192.168.1.150 ping 8.8.8.8 ping 192.168.1.1 work
11:55<somiaj>okay, your on the internet just fine, the problem is your name servers, since you are doing a static ip, you are not assigning name servers
11:56<somiaj>put 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' in /etc/resolv.conf file and now you can turn names into name servers (that uses googles nameserver). Your router might also be a nameserver so you could use nameserver 192.168.1.1, but this depends on the actual router.
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11:56<dixi_>ping www.google.com name resolution error
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12:00<dzragon>dixi dixi_ follow somiaj examples, nowhere did he say you should put www.google.com
12:00<dzragon><somiaj> put 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' in /etc/resolv.conf file and now you can turn names into name servers (that uses googles nameserver). Your router might also be a nameserver so you could use nameserver 192.168.1.1, but this depends on the actual router
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12:01<somiaj>arg, typo though, turns names into ips...but hopefully the idea was there.
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12:02<petn-randall>dixi: You don't need to fully quote the person you're responding to, it's all there already.
12:03<somiaj>dixi: please don't message people without asking first. If you have a comment just say it in here. You say it is not working, so what is the contents of /etc/resolv.conf
12:03<petn-randall>`mtr -t 8.8.8.8` will also tell you where the connection stops working.
12:03<somiaj>also when you say all those pings work, I'm assuming you are actually getting pings (not just the program ping ran)
12:04<dixi>search Home
12:04<dixi>nameserver 192.168.1.1
12:06<dixi>content of /etc/resolv.conf
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12:08<somiaj>try using nameserver 8.8.8.8
12:08<dixi>tried. the result is the same
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12:36<dixi>yeah. Thanks for your help.
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13:33<sandman888>hello all, I am having problem retrieving packages using apt-get I am getting error" E: package vim has no installation candidate"
13:36<sandman888>I edited my my sources.list file and have deb and deb-src pointing to http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib
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13:37<sarnold>sandman888: do you have any plain 'buster' lines? there may not have been any updates published for vim yet
13:37<ach>*
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13:39<blast007>sandman888: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList#Example_sources.list
13:39<sandman888>same thing happens when I try to apt-get install rsync
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13:46<sarnold>as it will for most packages :)
13:46<sandman888>got it, it was trying to look in the cd-rom (usb stick) that I used to install debian. had to change it out to http mucho thanks
13:46<sandman888>linux is a headache
13:47<blast007>sandman888: do you have the three 'deb' lines similar to what is in the wiki page I linked?
13:47<sandman888>yes
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13:52<sarnold>hah yeah, those cd lines make sense if you've got terrible connectivity (or none at all) but .. are *really* annoying if you've got decent internet
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14:00<sandman888>i like learning the hard way and torturing myself
14:00<sandman888>by the time i learn it everything will change and it won't matter anymore :p
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14:03<Drago>Hello!!!
14:03<sarnold>sandman888: hehe :D
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16:00<GenTooMan>I've looked at https://wiki.debian.org/Motherboard to no avail finding other places with information. ASUS hasn't updated compatibility information for linux in a long time. Is their hope to know or not if a motherboard can have some support (IE audio et al).
16:00<somiaj>You need to look at the actual chipset
16:01<somiaj>most likey the cpu and north/southbridge will work, things that may have issues are prefials like sound, ethernet, wifi, bluetooth. You need to get the actual chipset they used for that
16:01<somiaj>acpi can sometimes have issues too, but not as much these days
16:01<sney>pretty much all onboard audio is in the intel hda family these days, which is fully supported
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16:04<GenTooMan>Peripheral information on the MB ... now that might be interesting finding. I have a USB ethernet device that works under debian without a problem so I can use that worst case for network connectivity. Normally I use dmidecode to find support information but that is expost facto.
16:07<sney>it's very unusual for standard peripherals to be unsupported these days, particularly with desktop hardware
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16:08<sney>but if you're thinking of a specific model, link it and people here can take a look for any red flags
16:09<somiaj>I have had good luck with asus boards in the past, though I often buy 1-3 generation older boards, never for the current bleeding edge cpu
16:09<somiaj>but even then, I bet the cpu might be the issue vs the board (ryzen took a bit for full support in linux)
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16:20<GenTooMan>That's what I was concerned about ryzen 3700x vs 2700x. That would be x570 chipset vs x470 chipset the latter is cheaper but the 3700 is lower power. Nothing is simple is it? I was thinking PRIME x570 pro (I don't know if works) or PRIME x470 pro (which I know works).
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16:23<jmcnaught>GenTooMan: I have the PRIME X470-PRO with a 2700X. Everything works, except IOMMU/VFIO/PCI passthrough is broken in later versions of the BIOS if that's a feature you want to use.
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16:28<GenTooMan>jmcnaught that's IO virtualization correct? I'm not sure if I need direct IO as a user so if it doesn't work perhaps I won't miss it. LOL
16:31<jmcnaught>GenTooMan: correct. I use it for a Windows VM with its own dedicated GPU for gaming. Not that common a use case I guess, but I wish someone had warned me that AMD broke the feature with a bug in their AGESA.
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16:52<GenTooMan>jmcnaught yes most surprises I've found are bad news delayed (IE you find something after the fact and it's problematic).
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16:58<GenTooMan>I did find is that it depends on the version of linux in the system it has to have systemmd 241 or greater or it can't boot a ryzen 3xxx processor apparently. Good to know. So Debian buster supports the AMD 3XXX series processors but stretch doesn't. Fortunately I run buster with only some problems.
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16:59<sney>,v systemd
16:59<judd>Package: systemd on amd64 -- jessie: 215-17+deb8u7; jessie-security: 215-17+deb8u13; stretch-security: 232-25+deb9u11; stretch: 232-25+deb9u12; stretch-backports: 241-5~bpo9+1; buster: 241-7~deb10u1; bullseye: 242-7; sid: 242-7; experimental: 243-2
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16:59<sney>^ stretch-backports has 241, so it would be doable, if you still needed stretch for some reason
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17:00<dzragon>asus too busy mitigating the hack on their motherboard autoupdate app perhaps?
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17:02<dzragon>in regards to not updating any info
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17:05<FLD>hopefully the X570 will have better iommu support now that it's not designed by asmedia anymore
17:05<GenTooMan>That happened in January of this year didn't it? I had to recheck to remember. Greets.
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17:14<GenTooMan>I would expect them to not repeat the same mistake over and over again. However ASUS may have some internal conflicts judging from business related analysis of product fixes.
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18:06<sabrina>cqfd
18:06<sabrina>si vous etes a lausanne
18:06<sney>!fr
18:06<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr or #debian-quebec. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr or #debian-quebec.
18:07<sabrina>ok merci a bientot
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20:40<user_>oyo
20:40<user_>Hello
20:41<user_>Des gens qui ne dorment pas ?
20:41<sarnold>user_: normally no one says anything until someone has a question :)
20:41<user_>ohhh I see :)
20:41<user_>I'm testing MX Linux tools
20:41<user_>I stopped distrohoping wih MX Linux
20:41<user_>:D
20:42<user_>(I installed it last year)
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20:43<bremner>!next
20:43<dpkg>Another happy customer leaves the building.
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20:51<sarnold>honestly that went pretty well for an MX linux user..
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21:57<zupy>When i change a hostname in the etc/hosts and etc/hostname files, and reboot the machine, the old hostname is still resolving to 127.0.1.1 and not what the DNS server is showing, any idea why that may be?
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22:00<sarnold>zupy: I wonder if you need to goof around with hostnamectl(1) to change it
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22:28<annadane>general question, i think my nvidia card stops getting supported by nvidia-driver when bullseye releases, what should i do at that time before updating? switch to mesa, apt purge nvidia* , and then post update apt install nvidia-legacy-whatever?
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22:29<annadane>it's kind of early to say but i believe it will need the legacy packages
22:29<asr>Hai
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23:19<Korobug>Heya, I made a terrible mistake and tries to upgrade graphics card drivers from the nvidia site. Can anyone point me the right direction to get my system switched back to the default ones? I've followed the steps around purging nvidia* with no luck so far.
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23:22<blast007>Korobug: the driver from nvidia's site won't show up in the package manager. There is a 'nvidia-installer-cleanup' package that supposedly (I've never made use of it) cleans up the driver from nvidia's site.
23:27<Korobug>I'm not even able to get to package manager, I'm getting the Oh no something has gone wrong on boot because I completely borked it. Trying to see if I can get the network adapter going in maintenance mode to get that package from there.
23:29<blast007>can you hit Ctrl+Alt+F3 to get to a terminal?
23:30<Korobug>Nope, it just won't respond to the shortcut
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23:41<Korobug>Is there a built in roll back to factory command I just can't find?
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23:48<blast007>were you able to get to a shell?
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23:50<blast007>if not, you could boot off a live DVD or the install media and chroot in
23:50<blast007>!chroot
23:50<dpkg>To chroot into your Debian system boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2). Mount your root filesystem with "mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target" and make /dev, /proc and /sys usable with "mount --rbind --make-rslave /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys". You can then chroot into the system with "chroot /target".
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23:56<Korobug>I'm in a shell and I have internet access now, I just don't have a live disk at the moment or that would've been my go to.
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23:59<blast007>Korobug: do you still have the nvidia .run file? sounds like it has an --uninstall option. so, something like: sudo ./nvidia-whatever.run --uninstall
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