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#debian IRC Logs for 2019-10-11

---Logopened Fri Oct 11 00:00:52 2019
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01:01<usbtether>Hey, my debian install only boots to a blinking cursor
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01:24<wvdakker>is it possible to list all installed packages from a release? I want to see all packages installed from sid which I have installed op my testing system. Is that possible with dpkg?
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01:33<tjader>apt list shows the release
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01:35<usbtether>Any way to fix only having blinking cursor after boot?
01:36<wvdakker>apt list shows releases indeed, but only the testing packages, not the one installed from sid
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01:37<Nemoder>usbtether: see if you can boot a live/rescue image and check the system logs on disk
01:39<usbtether>actually I have a theory now
01:39<Nemoder>wvdakker: I wrote a messy script once to parse apt-cache that might help: dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/ {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | awk '/^[a-z0-9\-]+:/ {pkg=$1}; /\*\*\*/ {OFS="\t"; ver=$2; getline; print pkg,ver,$2,$3}'
01:39<usbtether>on disk decrypting step, it says it can't do the modeset for radeon because it doesn't have firmware
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01:39<usbtether>so that's probably why it stops booting
01:40<jelly>usbtether: remove the "quiet" boot parameter while in grub to see more of what happens during the boot process
01:40<usbtether>how do I give it the firmware? do I have to remake my liveusb with a fat32 partition and reinstall or can I somehow get the firmware onto this install that I've already done?
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01:42<usbtether>jelly without quiet boot parameter I still got the same blank screen with blinking underscore cursor in top left
01:42<wvdakker>Nemoder: thanks
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01:49<jelly>you could use unofficial live image with firmware, or I _think_ you could use a second partition to enable persistence
01:49<jelly>!firmware live
01:49<dpkg>Unofficial <live> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for Debian 9 "Stretch" as a live OS are available at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/ . See also <firmware images>.
01:49<jelly>usbtether: ^
01:51<jelly>the link actually points to Debian 10 images now
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03:22<dboles>cool j
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03:37<twb>Can gnome's crappy apt front-end - I guess it's called "Software"? - do an upgrade from oldstable to stable?
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04:29<linux77>hello guys!
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05:19<linux77>hey guys, after i purge sddm, my card reader on notebook, stop's work any tip?
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08:27<animersindo>hellooooo everyoneee
08:27<animersindo>i have a problem with kali linux
08:28<animersindo>why if i upgrade the system after reboot my kali problem when gdm?
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08:28<thsnr>!kali
08:28<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
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08:33<animersindo>why if i upgrade my kali linux, after reboot my laptop just get freezing?
08:33<animersindo>and not get into a desktop
08:33<duclicsic>!kali
08:33<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
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08:34<animersindo>please help me
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08:34<duclicsic>animersindo: all of the help you will receive here is in the thing dpkg just said
08:35<duclicsic>this channel is for supporting debian linux, kali is not debian linux and is thus not supported
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08:36<animersindo>hmm any know the kali linux channel?
08:36<blast007>dude, READ. it's in the message dpkg sent here...
08:36<duclicsic>astonishing
08:36<duclicsic>"Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net"
08:36<animersindo>pls i want a kali linux channel
08:37<towo^work>animersindo, you don't need kali if you are not able to read
08:38<animersindo>but i installed a kali linux in my pc
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08:38<duclicsic>a miracle for sure
08:38<towo^work>animersindo, not our problem
08:39<animersindo>but my kali linux had a problem, and kali linux is based on debian
08:39<towo^work>animersindo, you will not become the greatest hacker on earth by installing kali
08:39<towo^work>animersindo, ask in kali irc
08:39<avu>dpkg: tell animersindo about kali
08:39<avu>dpkg: tell animersindo about based on debian
08:40<animersindo>i dont want be a hacker
08:40<blast007>then why did you install kali?
08:40<animersindo>but i like kali linux because kali linux is my favourite
08:41<avu>animersindo: good for you. Go to the channel #kali-linux on Freenode to get help with it
08:41<animersindo>because linux mint is not installed completedly in my pc
08:41<blast007>kali is a bad choice for your normal operating system. it is not designed to be secure.
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08:42<animersindo>thank you for all
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08:50<Mezme>Hi. Is there any know Buster bug causing dhcp leases to fail after x amount of hours?
08:50<Mezme>dhclient[327]: Failed to get interface index: No such device
08:50<Mezme>Is the error
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08:59<tarzeau>Mezme: with isc-dhcp-client or systemd-networkd or another dhcp client?
08:59<tarzeau>Mezme: yes i've seen that also, for isc-dhcp-client just set the timeout to be hours, and it'll just work again
08:59<tarzeau>it's like 30 minutes or so by default
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11:36<sabrina>mon server sme gere la boite
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11:39<bremner>!fr
11:39<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr or #debian-quebec. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr or #debian-quebec.
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12:15<junes2>debian [virtualbox VM guest] reports low disk space
12:16<junes2>'vbox hardisk ' reports unknown type
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12:18<junes2>disk usage analyzer reports 925
12:19<junes2>92 percent
12:20<codingquark>What should I ask apt to search for, if I'm looking for text-adventure games that runs from CLI?
12:21<junes2><codingquark> I am new here, sorry
12:22<codingquark>junes2: ?
12:22<codingquark>Ah, do you mean "I don't know?"
12:22<junes2><codingquark> new user
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12:22<codingquark>junes2: cool :)
12:22<codingquark>Welcome!
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12:24<junes2><codingquark> why can't my Debian-VM read the 'vbox-hardisk? 'unknown type'?
12:24<junes2><codingquark> and yes IDK
12:25<junes2><codingquark> its confusing, it can?see? the HD ,buts its ?full?
12:25<junes2><codingquark> can't see
12:26<codingquark>junes2: may be the disk you've attached to your VM guest machine is low on space after you installed your stuff on it.
12:29<junes2><codingquark> I agree, but I added 4GB with the VBOX 'tools' menu, same results[size did not change in Debian]
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12:30<codingquark>junes2: check how to increase partition size
12:30<junes2><codingquark> thinking thats what the 'tools' menu was supposed to do, yo mean in Debian?
12:31<blast007>you likely just increased the size of the virtual disk, but that doesn't alter the partition sizes inside the VM
12:31<codingquark>junes2: yes, after you add space to your disk from virtualbox, you'll have to ask Debian to expand the partition size.
12:32<junes2><codingquark> is there an'app' :)
12:32<codingquark>junes2: gparted perhaps
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12:34<junes2><codingquark> is it free, mostly want tun 'Free_BSD' Debian, the non frees ehhh
12:34<codingquark>junes2: free it is!
12:34<junes2>to run Free.BSd
12:35<junes2><codingquark> synaptic download maybe? don't see it installed
12:35<codingquark>It is in fact GPL licensed.
12:35<codingquark>junes2: sudo apt install gparted
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12:35<codingquark>Or synaptic, sure.
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12:36<junes2><codingquark> which gets better results 'synaptic, apt install' :)
12:36<codingquark>junes2: synaptic is GUI to install packages, and apt is CLI. You can use whichever you prefer.
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12:39<junes2><codingquark> OK, running apt now, thanks
12:39<codingquark>:)
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12:40<junes2><codingquark> 'unallocated' 8GB whats the thing to do?
12:42<junes2><codingquark> new?
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12:42<codingquark>junes2: not new, check if edit allows you to increase the size
12:42<blast007>did you use LVM partitioning?
12:43<codingquark>Yeah, that's another important question.
12:43<junes2><codingquark> no edit options[grey]. only option is 'new'
12:43<codingquark>I think it'll be a good idea to go through some gparted tutorial.
12:43<blast007>you may also want to boot to a live DVD and run gparted on that, instead of from the installed OS
12:45<blast007>junes2: what types are the existing partitions in gparted? ext4? lvm?
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12:46<junes2><codingquark> ext4, extended, linux-swap, unallocated
12:46<codingquark>Perhaps you meant to highlight blast007 :)
12:46<blast007>how large is the ext4 partition?
12:47<junes2><codingquark>13.5 GB(VDI was 16GB) added 8GB
12:48<junes2><codingquark> added 8GB -in the VBOX-tools menu
12:48<blast007>okay, so that'll be the one you want to resize. I'm not too familar with resizing linux partitions. I'd suggest booting off a live DVD, running gparted, and see if you can resize that partition.
12:49<blast007>(also, if there's any important data on there, I would recommend backing that up first)
12:49<blast007>or, with a VM, you could shut down and take a snapshot
12:50<blast007>looks like you can even resize a partition with the Gnome Disks utility
12:50<junes2><blast007> Gnome Disks utility is tha an app?
12:51<blast007>yes
12:51<blast007>just called "Disks"
12:51<blast007>but do it from a live DVD
12:52<jhutchins_wk>Resizing a partition: 1) Do a file (not image) backup of the whole disk (you're going to do that anyway, right?). 2) repartition off-line with fdisk or gparted. 3) restore data.
12:52<jhutchins_wk>Mm, probably need to mention format partitions there somewhere.
12:53<jhutchins_wk>It's faster than trying to do a live resize.
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12:54<junes2><jhutchins_wk> its a VDI 'image', space is at a premium here :)
12:55<junes2><jhutchins_wk> VDI is on flash drive
12:56<junes2><jhutchins_wk> What about the 'new' ?unallocated partition?
12:57<junes2><jhutchins_wk> so I'll go read -Gparted- and find out how to stretch, New seems like an extra partition
12:58<jhutchins_wk>junes2: Presumably you'll be allocating it when you repartition.
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12:58<junes2><jhutchins_wk> that's what I think
12:59<junes2><jhutchins_wk> new partition or added to sda1
12:59<junes2><jhutchins_wk> I know read the manual
13:00<junes2><jhutchins_wk> afraid to click the 'new', mess things up???
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13:01<blast007>shut down, take a snapshot of the VM, and then play around
13:01<blast007>if it breaks, roll back to the snapshot. if it works, you can delete the snapshot and it'll merge the changes into the base disk.
13:02<blast007>(assuming you have a bit of space on the host system to keep the snapshot changes)
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15:14<junes2>running live to partition unallocated???
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15:16<junes2>unallocated on end of VDI, after swap space???
15:16<sarnold>you may need to expand your questions
15:17<junes2>would like to ?expand? sda1 to unallocated
15:17<sarnold>(not more question marks, usually one will suffice)
15:17<junes2><sarnold> ok, whats the best way to do this
15:18<junes2><sarnold> VDI is a Virtusbox HardDrive
15:18<sarnold>junes2: I believe parted is the best way to expand a partition
15:19<sney>gparted may be easier for the multi-step operation
15:19<junes2><sarnold> live does not show 'unallocated'
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15:20<junes2><sney> live does not ?have gparted
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15:21<sney>junes2: https://gparted.org/livecd.php
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15:23<sarnold>junes2: can you apt install gparted?
15:24<junes2><sarnold> can it be installed on a 'live Debian' iso?
15:24<sarnold>I'm not sure, I haven't used one of those
15:24<sarnold>but it seems like it's worth a quick try if you have a live system up and running
15:25<sney>d-live has a small / but I'm pretty sure it has apt
15:25<sarnold>junes2: you may have missed this message during the netsplits: < sney> junes2: https://gparted.org/livecd.php
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15:25<somiaj>you can install new softare inside the live enviorment after you boot. You will have to run apt update first
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15:26<junes2><somiaj>,<sarnold> the live iso is 'a fixed size [so those are splits] , update a live iso?
15:27<junes2><somiaj> running 'it' in Virtualbox
15:27<junes2>I thought I caused those splits :) somehow
15:27<somiaj>this install the software in memeory, you'll have to do this each and every time you boot
15:28<somiaj>There are ways to make a persitant live image, in which software you installed stays installed between boots, but this requires messing with the image a bit, and I think uses syslinux
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15:30<junes2><somiaj> I agree, but 'GNU/Linux distribution for x86 based computers' host is 64bit 'windows10'
15:31<somiaj>that should be fine
15:32<junes2><somiaj> If I just 'new partition' the unallocated , will issues arrive
15:32<junes2><somiaj> alliggnment, and such
15:33<somiaj>I guess I'm not quite sure what you are doing, or trying to do. I was mearly commenting you can install stuff in the live enviorment. If you are wanting to make a persistant live usb, this does take a bit more work.
15:33<sney>I am pretty sure they are just trying to add to their disk space for the main debian OS
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15:36<blast007>junes2: if you create a new partition, you'd still be out of space on the main filesystem. you would have to move files to the other new filesystem on the new partition.
15:37<blast007>if you want to expand the existing ext4 partition, you should be able to do that with gparted
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15:50<junes2><somiaj>
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15:51<junes2><blast007> hoping I could 'expand' with unallocated
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15:53<junes2><sney> Vbox allowed adding space to VDI, now extra space is unallocated on -main debian OS-
15:56<junes2><sney> Debian shows 24GB with 16GB + 8GB unallocated
15:56<junes2><sney> with @GB swap in between
15:56<junes2><sney>2GB swap
15:57<sney>you would have to delete the swap
15:57<sney>you can create it again after expanding your root partition
15:58<sney>swap does not hold any data so it is safe to delete/move/resize/etc
15:58<junes2><sney> you guys want to have my liveVM and my DebianVM running at the same time I'm just a laptop
15:59<sney>what?
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15:59<junes2><sney> All these OS(es) are Virtualbox VM('s) on my laptop
15:59<sney>yes I know that was in your original question
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16:00<sney>if you want to add the 8GB extra space to the 16GB partition, they need to be next to each other. the swap cannot be in between.
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16:01<somiaj>Couldn't you use lvm in that case and treat the two partitions as one?
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16:01<somiaj>(if you didn't want to move things around if you have space in various locations)
16:01<sney>I think LVM might be a bit advanced for today.
16:02<junes2><sney> how came I save this conversation for my future refernce, I'll remember that[delete swap], yea not too sure of LVM
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16:04<rob_debian>Hi all, please, I customer here is using Debian 'stretch' 9.6 still not upgraded on his home server; and it's displaying the word (base) in prompt. Please, how to fix this issue and make this to disappear from terminal ?
16:07<somiaj>rob_debian: I don't quite follow, maybe if you could share a screenshot of the prompt.
16:07<somiaj>rob_debian: you could also 'echo $PS1' from a terminal, does that contain the word (base)?
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16:08<rob_debian>Hi somiaj, nice and glad to see you again !:) Let me ask him to perform this procedure you've suggested, somiaj. Thank you very much !
16:08<rob_debian>'echo $PS1' as root ?
16:09<rob_debian>I'll ask him to send me a screenshot, somiaj; thanks for that :)
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16:14<rob_debian>No somiaj, it doesn't appear 'base'. I asked him a screenshot, but he's quite busy now :(
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16:17<somiaj>echo $PS1 as the user who sees (base) in their prompt
16:17<somiaj>the promt in a terminal is controlled by the $PS1 enviorment variable
16:17<rob_debian>Fine, somiaj, let me pass him this information. Thank you very much !
16:17<somiaj>though maybe I'm not understanding what promt, hence screenshot would help
16:18<rob_debian>Let me chek his reply....
16:18<rob_debian>sure
16:18<rob_debian>Asking him again about his screenshot
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16:19<rob_debian>It's bash, somiaj: ~$ at the beginning of prompt.. Waiting for his screenshot....
16:20<rob_debian>as normal user
16:20<somiaj>then echo $PS1 as that normal user
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16:28<rob_debian>Please, somiaj, is that visible this screenshot you told me to ? https://imgur.com/a/Kz76D33
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16:32<somiaj>rob_debian: yes, that appears that the PS1 variable has (base) prepended to it for some reason, look for the definition of this variable in $HOME/.bashrc (or wherever it is set).
16:32<rob_debian>as normal user or root ?
16:32<somiaj>Though that screenshot could be missleading, just double check does 'echo Hello World' output "(base) Hello World" or "Hello World"
16:33<somiaj>as the user that is having the problem, this is the users PS1 variable.
16:35<rob_debian>Please, somiaj, how to use this instruction in the command line to check about PS1 ? No idea how to use $HOME/.bashrc
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16:36<somiaj>its a config file, the PS1 variable is set in a config file. You can configure how it is set.
16:37<somiaj>but I would also like a screenshot or output of 'echo Hello World', if it outputs '(base) Hello World' the issue is not bash at all
16:38<rob_debian>I'm confused about how to set PS1 in a config file...Please, somiaj, how to do it ?
16:38<somiaj>edit the config file, change the variable setting PS1=' ' line
16:39<jhutchins_wk>rob_debian: https://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/
16:39<jhutchins_wk>Do we get a percent of what you're charging him?
16:41<rob_debian>Hi jhutchins_wk, nice to meet you again here !:)I would love to pass you any money jhutchins_wk, but it's free support I'm trying to provide him lol.
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16:41<rob_debian>He's a 'customer', but in fact, he works using Debian Server in a ONG
16:43<rob_debian>Teaching Debian in networks for underprivileged students from public schools. There is no money involved. Poor community that could not even afford to buy computers (they were all donated)
16:43<rob_debian>Majority of them are seeing Debian for the 1st time with 25, 30 years old....
16:43<sney>that's pretty cool.
16:45<rob_debian>Hi sney, nice to meet you ! Yeah, but they are experiencing issues, for Debian is quite new for them
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16:46<sney>nobody is good right at the beginning
16:47<rob_debian>yes, sney, you are right. back in few minutes !
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17:06<rob_debian>back here; well, somiaj told me to suggest them to edit the config file (which config file ?) change the variable setting PS1='' line...
17:07<rob_debian>the last action they did on the server was installing 'anaconda'
17:09<sney>the instructions for controlling the BASH prompt are in the link that jhutchins_wk sent earlier. But the prompt having (base) in it is not going to hurt anything.
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17:12<robsuse>sorry, networking troubles here
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17:39<robsuse>somiaj and jhutchins_wk, thank you very much for information and Great Support provided; It was changed succesfully over there !
17:40<robsuse>yeas, sney, probably they felt (base) a bit polluted in terms of appearance in prompt :)
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19:54<sim590>My /boot is full and I cannot upgrade linux package. Is there something that I can safely remove on the partition? https://paste.debian.net/1105931/
19:54<sim590>Here with sizes https://paste.debian.net/1105932/
19:55<sarnold>what kernel are you currently running? uname -a will tell you
20:01<sarnold>sim590: alright on the chance I'm out when you return.. it's best to leave the newest kernel *and* whatever kernel you're currently running, and if that's only one kernel, then be sure to keep a second kernel around too
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20:02<sarnold>sim590: on the assumption that th eoldest kernel isn't needed any more: > config-4.19.0-4-amd64 ; > initrd.img-4.19.0-4-amd64 ; > System.map-4.19.0-4-amd64 ; > vmlinuz-4.19.0-4-amd64 ; dpkg -S /boot/vmlinuz-4.19.0-4-amd64 --- use dpkg --purge on the package that this reports
20:02<sarnold>sim590: then you should probably be able to apt install -f
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20:18<rort>hi
20:18<sney>hi
20:19<rort>is there people always here?
20:19<sney>this is a support channel for debian users, it is fairly active
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20:51<sim590>sarnold: 5.2.0-2-amd64
20:52<sim590>sarnold: Alright. Thanks. I'll try that
20:55<sim590>I'm getting `dpkg-query: neniu pako kongruanta al la ŝablono /boot/initrd.img-4.19.0-4-amd64`. So the file isn't owned by any package. Is that normal? Shouldn't apt clean that?
20:57<sim590>Oh. I guess that I really needed to check for vmz file and not "initrd" which must be generated after installation of package, so no package owns it.
20:59<dvs>,kernels
20:59<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 5.3.0-trunk-686-pae (5.3.2-1~exp1); sid: 5.2.0-3-686 (5.2.17-1); bullseye: 5.2.0-3-686 (5.2.17-1); buster-backports: 5.2.0-0.bpo.2-686 (5.2.9-2~bpo10+1); buster: 4.19.0-6-686 (4.19.67-2+deb10u1); stretch-backports: 4.19.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.19.67-2+deb10u1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-11-686-pae (4.9.189-3+deb9u1); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae
20:59<judd>(4.9.88-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 4.9.0-0.bpo.11-686-pae (4.9.189-3+deb9u1~deb8u1)
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21:03<grant>hello
21:03<sarnold>sim590: hey, how's it going? it sounds like you're probably on the right track :)
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21:08<sim590>I did it along your recomendations. It went well!
21:09<sarnold>sim590: yay :)
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21:14<somiaj>initrd.imgs are generated. Also it appears you are running debian testing or unstable?
21:20<sim590>somiaj: Yes. I'm running testing.
21:20<sim590>I guess I should have hasked my question in debian-next.
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21:39<somiaj>correct
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23:11<robsuse>ilhamfarabi, please, what's bjhj] ?
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