--- | Log | opened Mon Dec 02 00:00:06 2019 |
00:00 | <ramz> | heyo btches |
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01:40 | <junes2> | the nonfree resulted in that same missing firmware ,,, no boot to OS ,,, blinking cursor, so thanks for that link |
01:41 | <junes2> | guess I'll have to stick to that VBOX debian Buster10 |
01:42 | <junes2> | trying the ;install; one last time ; not the graphical |
01:42 | <junes2> | !install nonfree |
01:43 | <junes2> | leave junes2 |
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03:27 | <turi> | hi |
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05:51 | <linux77> | guys i don't have much pratice with ipv6, i made one entry in /etc/systemd/network/eth0.network for my box with an ipv4 static addres, but on ifconfig lists only ipv6 assignement? anyone can gimme some help? |
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06:29 | <grawity> | ifconfig sometimes lies |
06:29 | <grawity> | check whether `ip addr` shows your address correctly |
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06:49 | <hustghf> | hello |
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08:10 | <linux77> | hey guys any can help me my vhosts is setup to an directory but i only see de default apache2 debian webpage? |
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08:13 | <sleblanc> | linux77, I can try helping you |
08:13 | <sleblanc> | did you set a hostname for your vhost? do you have multiple vhosts? |
08:14 | <sleblanc> | linux77, you can type "apache2ctl -S" to list all your vhosts |
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08:25 | <sleblanc> | linux77, I am leaving. |
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08:41 | <SkarmoutsosV> | Hi! Does anyone know if there is a difference between https://www.debian.org/mirror/list-full and https://www.debian.org/mirror/mirrors_full ? |
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08:43 | <blast007> | SkarmoutsosV: they both have the exact same content |
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08:44 | <sleblanc> | ~ LANG=C diff -s <(curl -s https://www.debian.org/mirror/list-full) <(curl -s https://www.debian.org/mirror/mirrors_full) |
08:44 | <sleblanc> | Files /proc/self/fd/11 and /proc/self/fd/14 are identical |
08:45 | <SkarmoutsosV> | blast007: I was wondering if one of them is deprecated |
08:45 | <sleblanc> | SkarmoutsosV, they have the same exact bytes |
08:46 | <SkarmoutsosV> | I want to hardcode one URL to a python script and was wondering which one to use |
08:47 | <sleblanc> | they have the same timestamp, so one is probably a (wiki) redirect to the other. I doubt that either is going away any time soon |
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08:49 | <linux77> | i re-read the docs maybe i already correct the trouble |
08:49 | <sleblanc> | SkarmoutsosV, web site source shows that list-full is the canonical 'real page' while the other might be a URL alias: https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/tree/master/english/mirror |
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08:51 | <sdias> | ola |
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08:57 | <SkarmoutsosV> | steblanc, Your diff-curl command and especially the link to salsa mirror page gave me usefull info. Thank you very much for your guidance. |
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09:50 | <fequerver> | VERIFY REGISTER fequerver qxvnaagmbblm |
09:50 | <fequerver> | .-. |
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09:52 | <sqrt{not}> | fequerver: change you password now, we all saw it |
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09:53 | <zumbi> | surely that was a fake test :E |
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09:54 | <themill> | It just looked like stars to me. |
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09:56 | <sqrt{not}> | really ? no stars here, all LC alpha |
09:56 | <mendel_munkis> | hunter2 reference. |
09:56 | <mendel_munkis> | probably |
09:56 | <sqrt{not}> | ahh, OK, no culture here, I'll shut up |
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09:58 | <annadane> | that's like, internet rite of passage |
09:58 | <annadane> | you deserve a ban |
09:59 | <themill> | !hunter2 |
09:59 | <dpkg> | hunter2 is the <foo> of passwords. http://bash.org/?244321 |
10:01 | * | sqrt{not} guesses he better change his password now |
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10:42 | <blast007> | I think that's the verification code, not the password |
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10:58 | <junes2> | ubuntu |
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11:02 | <annadane> | i'm not really into pokemon |
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11:06 | <junes2> | dtcrshr: what is th efix for 'ubuntu shimx64 error, is there a ubuntu #ubuntu |
11:06 | <junes2> | what's the fix |
11:06 | <junes2> | shimx64.efi |
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11:08 | <junes2> | [channels] |
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12:07 | <ansf> | hi |
12:10 | <dvs> | oi |
12:10 | <ansf> | what |
12:10 | <ansf> | ? |
12:10 | <ansf> | who can help me i cant open tor browser on parrot os |
12:12 | <dvs> | !parrot |
12:12 | <dpkg> | Parrot Linux is a distribution based on <testing> for security experts, developers and privacy aware people. It is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Support can be found in #parrotsec on Freenode or the community pages https://docs.parrotlinux.org/community. Ask me about <based on debian> and <parrot-overnight>. If you are new to linux, try using Debian: http://www.debian.org. |
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12:13 | <ansf> | how i can join to #parrotsec |
12:14 | <sqrt{not}> | !freenode |
12:14 | <dpkg> | freenode (formerly Open Projects Network) is a service of the Peer-Directed Projects Center, an IRS 501(c)(3) corporation. They have an IRC network, irc.freenode.net, and you can visit their web page at http://freenode.net/ . You may be connected to freenode. See also <oftc> and <fact sharing>. |
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12:57 | <paidjemz> | anyone from ID? |
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12:59 | <paidjemz> | hi |
12:59 | <u0_a103> | hello |
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13:00 | <u0_a103> | anyone can reply m? |
13:00 | <paidjemz> | yes |
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13:03 | <synrg1> | its snowing here in new york |
13:04 | <mendel_munkis> | !offtopic (here in new york its hailing) |
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13:10 | <nvz> | they're always hailing in NYC.. you gotta be really persistant to get a cab.. |
13:10 | <nvz> | :P |
13:10 | <synrg1> | ahaha |
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13:12 | <_Fremen_> | hello everyone |
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13:14 | <_Fremen_> | I am trying to use Debian with YUMI but when I try to install it through live or standard version, I get "CD not found" or etc. Even though I am using USB, Debian checks the CDROM for installation media. How can I fix this? Are there any guides or tutorials? |
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13:15 | <jhutchins_wk> | _Fremen_: While there is a boot image specifically intended to do that, we often see that symptom when the image was written with unetbootin. |
13:16 | <_Fremen_> | jhutchins_wk, YUMI currently the tool I use and I prefer to use it with Debian as well |
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13:24 | <free2> | !oftc |
13:24 | <dpkg> | OFTC is the Open and Free Technology Community, a support/collaboration service. They have an IRC network: irc.oftc.net. You may (or may not) be connected to OFTC's network. http://www.oftc.net/ See also <freenode>, <oftc move> and <fact sharing>. |
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13:24 | <free2> | !fact |
13:24 | <free2> | !fact sharing |
13:24 | <free2> | !"fact sharing" |
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13:25 | <aloo_shu> | links break |
13:25 | <aloo_shu> | so do factoids |
13:25 | <aloo_shu> | factual fact |
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13:33 | <sqrt{not}> | _Fremen_: jhutchins_wk was trying to tell you NOT to use unetbootin. if you are using that, try instead win32diskimager |
13:33 | <sqrt{not}> | !unetbootin |
13:33 | <dpkg> | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
13:33 | <sqrt{not}> | !rufus |
13:33 | <dpkg> | rufus is a tool that can be used to make bootable USB devices under Windows. It is not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
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13:35 | <_Fremen_> | sqrt{not}, I understand but I need and prefer multiboot software and best alternatives I know are YUMI and SARDU. Anything else I can use? |
13:40 | <sqrt{not}> | _Fremen_: OK, are you trying to install YUMI on a debian system, or are you trying to add debian to a YUMI multi-boot USB ? |
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13:47 | <_Fremen_> | sqrt{not}, trying to add Debian into a YUMI multi-boot USB. I hoped that there could be a simple guide for me to fix it :(. |
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13:47 | <_Fremen_> | because it is very practical to use a multi boot instead of single boot device |
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13:48 | <sqrt{not}> | _Fremen_: right, so are you using the YUMI program to add debian ? Is it running in windows or linux/wine ? |
13:48 | <_Fremen_> | sqrt{not}, it runs better in windows rather than wine |
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13:49 | <sqrt{not}> | _Fremen_: so how is this a debian question then ? are you running any debian code somewhere in this process ? |
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13:50 | <_Fremen_> | sqrt{not}, I am having problem with making Debian installable with YUMI, so my question is related in that way. If you think this is off topic, I will try somewhere else? |
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13:51 | <sqrt{not}> | _Fremen_: well, are you running the debian installer when you have the problem ? |
13:55 | <_Fremen_> | sqrt{not}, yes, everything works fine until Debian looks for installation media and searches it in CDROM, not the multiboot USB I am currently running. I assumed this can be fixed by pointing to the spesific installation file via console during installation and I was searching for such a fix. |
13:56 | <jhutchins_wk> | _Fremen_: That is an error with the iso image, not a problem with the Debian installer. |
13:57 | <jhutchins_wk> | _Fremen_: The debian installer _already_ points to the device with the iso on it, so there is something wrong, either with the way yumi is mounting the image or with the image itself. |
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13:57 | <_Fremen_> | jhutchins_wk, in that case, yumi |
13:58 | <_Fremen_> | jhutchins_wk, ok thanks, I will search for something else |
13:58 | <_Fremen_> | have a nice day |
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14:29 | <court> | who is here? |
14:29 | <dboles> | !ask |
14:29 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
14:30 | <court> | Does this messager a has life? |
14:30 | <dboles> | 633 people according to my IRC client |
14:30 | <dboles> | do you have a debian support question? |
14:30 | <court> | lol |
14:30 | <court> | no |
14:30 | <court> | just talking |
14:30 | <dboles> | then sorry, but |
14:30 | <dboles> | !chat |
14:30 | <dpkg> | This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net. |
14:30 | <court> | ok |
14:30 | <court> | sorry |
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15:07 | <rob_debian> | Hi all, please, is there any other application that can help me to recover data from a overwritten partition ? I tried to use 'testdisk', but it's not so clear, it's not so precise and quite complex to be used succesfully. |
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15:08 | <aggi> | without additional info i see little chance anyone could help rob_debian |
15:08 | <rob_debian> | I'd like to know if there is any other application better than 'testdisk' for it's a crap that doesn't work fine - not user-friendly and explanations in its manual tend to induce you to make other mistakes. |
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15:08 | <aggi> | better for what? |
15:08 | <towo`> | all forensic tools are quite complex |
15:09 | <aggi> | this depends on what caused the data loss |
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15:09 | <synrg1> | hey yall, i cant figure out how to get my touchpad set up. i have the xorg files copied into the correct dir, i have libinput and synaptic installed, etc. i dont know what to do at this point |
15:09 | <synrg1> | trackpad* |
15:09 | <somiaj> | recovering data is hard, there is no simple tool for this. |
15:09 | <towo`> | testdisk is one of the best tools i know |
15:09 | <rob_debian> | Hi aggi, nice to meet you ! towo it's not a forensic tool. It's developed to recover data from damaged or lost partitions. |
15:10 | <towo`> | rob_debian, it is using forensic routines for that |
15:10 | <somiaj> | rob_debian: that is what a forensic tool is, a tool needs to manually read every byte of the drive an make guesses to put things back together. |
15:10 | <towo`> | and there is also foremost, but it's also complex |
15:12 | <towo`> | the easyest way is to recover from the backup |
15:12 | <rob_debian> | Hi somiaj, no problem if it's a complex task, But in this case, this application tends to not work correctly. I follow instructions provided in its manual, but these instructions aren't well explained. |
15:15 | <sqrt{not}> | synrg1: what version of debian are you running ? what desktop environment ? what have you copied into what directory ? |
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15:18 | <rob_debian> | Sorry, My hdd is falling here, low space 587 MB |
15:18 | <rob_debian> | towo, again, 'testdisk' is not considered a forensic tool. It was developed just to recover partitions and data from damaged or lost partitions. |
15:19 | <rob_debian> | somiaj, really ? |
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15:20 | <rob_debian> | I thought towo was making confusing with tools used by kali linux to other objectives. So the wrong point of views is mine, not towo.... |
15:20 | <somiaj> | are you currently using the disk that failed and you need to recover data from? |
15:20 | <rob_debian> | Sorry for that |
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15:20 | <rob_debian> | somiaj, the case is: I have to recover data from a health disc |
15:21 | <rob_debian> | this disc I'm using now installed on my laptop is falling, I'll have to replace it and I'll do it afterwards. |
15:21 | <aggi> | so what caused the data-loss? |
15:21 | <somiaj> | standard process is top using the disk right away. Make two images of the disk, one as a backup/original, one to work from. Then start using tools on that image to recover the data, this takes a lot of space and is slow. |
15:21 | <somiaj> | the more you use the disk the harder it is to get data from it. |
15:21 | <rob_debian> | But my main question is: I need another application to help me to recover data from a health hdd I told you |
15:22 | <AleksejShilin> | rob_debian: photorec? |
15:22 | <towo`> | testdisk is using photorec |
15:22 | <rob_debian> | I see somiaj |
15:22 | <synrg1> | sqrt{not}: i3wm |
15:22 | <synrg1> | debian with 5.2 kernel |
15:23 | <rob_debian> | somiaj, I don't know if you know 'easus partition master' it can be installed in windows, not any Linux Distro |
15:23 | <rob_debian> | it's excellent, and I would like to know if there is any similar with graphical interface to help me |
15:24 | <rob_debian> | 'testdisk' is sometimes so confusing. You are adviced to navigate through menus using q (quit), but if you use it, you have to scan hdd again |
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15:25 | <rob_debian> | you take 1 hour and a half to scan everything. After this process, it's difficult to navigate through options offered in 'testdisk'. Sometimes you can, majority of time you lose your time scanning (1 hour and a half) |
15:26 | <towo`> | try foremost |
15:27 | <rob_debian> | Please towo, is 'foremost' graphical tool ? |
15:27 | <towo`> | no |
15:28 | <towo`> | and i don't know any clicky tool for data recovery on linux |
15:29 | <towo`> | https://www.r-studio.com/free-linux-recovery/ |
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15:30 | <towo`> | there is even a commercial pro version, which seems to have a gui |
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15:32 | <rob_debian> | I see towo, thank you for your attention and Great Support !:) If 'testdisk' worked fine all the time, it would be enough for me. |
15:32 | <rob_debian> | In just one occasion, I could see all ntfs directory tree though it, and could see files that I need to recover. |
15:32 | <rob_debian> | But it was only once I got it. Several other trials I couldn't get the same result. |
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15:35 | <rob_debian> | Please, other issue here: this hdd is getting increasing the size alone, or it seems to me at least. Yesterday it was 8 GB free, and I haven't stored anything in it since. Today is this way, only 568 MB of free space .... |
15:35 | <sarnold> | rob_debian: I've used The Sleuthkit / Autopsy when trying to recover data from corrupted filesystems before; depending upon how the data was overwritten, it may or may not help |
15:35 | <rob_debian> | https://paste.debian.net/1119106/ |
15:35 | <sarnold> | rob_debian: but commercial services exist for data recovery, it might be worth investigating them |
15:36 | <rob_debian> | Hi sarnold, nice to meet you here :) Yes, I know; commercial services are available, but I can't spending money for that, not now, unfortunately. |
15:36 | <rob_debian> | Sleuthkit / Autopsy ? |
15:37 | <sarnold> | rob_debian: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=sleuthkit |
15:37 | <sarnold> | rob_debian: for your "where is my storage going?" problem, try "ncdu -x /" |
15:38 | <rob_debian> | Thank you very much for that sarnold ! |
15:38 | <rob_debian> | I'll check here using "ncdu -x /" |
15:38 | <rob_debian> | bash: ncdu: command not found |
15:39 | <rob_debian> | if 'ncdu' is a package, I can't install it now. |
15:39 | <rob_debian> | very low space here |
15:39 | <rob_debian> | sorry, not 'slow' |
15:40 | <rob_debian> | Very little space available here |
15:40 | <rob_debian> | 568 MB |
15:41 | <rob_debian> | oh, only 43,7 kb, so it's possible to install it |
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15:49 | <rob_debian> | Sorry, interruption here sarnold |
15:49 | <sarnold> | rob_debian: wb |
15:49 | <rob_debian> | now it's 17 GB free space |
15:49 | <rob_debian> | wb ? |
15:49 | <sarnold> | wb == welcome back :) |
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15:50 | <rob_debian> | oh, fine, thank you !:) |
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15:50 | <rob_debian> | now, let me check this storage using 'ncdu -x /' |
15:50 | <sarnold> | rob_debian: apt autoclean or apt clean will remove local package copies, which can sometimes free a few gigabytes very quickly |
15:51 | <sarnold> | rob_debian: but the downside of course is that those packages are no longer available to you for troubleshooting; I've only needed them like three times in 25 years so it's not a huge risk, but still, it's a risk |
15:51 | <rob_debian> | Fine sarnold, I've simply forgotten this command and was trying to fix issue here using 'apt autoremove' |
15:51 | <sarnold> | that will uninstall packages, which might be fine, but also might be HORRIBLE :) so I don't suggest that one immediately |
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15:52 | <sarnold> | deboprhan / orphaner can help with uninstalling packages -- but it's also not something to run blindly, you need to know what you're removing before you remove anything |
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15:55 | <rob_debian> | I see sarnold, please, take a lool on it for you to have an idea about what I deleted: https://paste.debian.net/1119110/ |
15:55 | <rob_debian> | Apparently everything is working fine... |
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15:56 | <sarnold> | rob_debian: YIKES |
15:56 | <AleksejShilin> | sarnold: It's autoclean, not autoremove. |
15:57 | <AleksejShilin> | So no worries. |
15:58 | <sarnold> | AleksejShilin: oh thank god |
15:58 | <sarnold> | I was terrified |
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16:06 | <rob_debian> | No sarnold, you wasn't terrified; it was only a short misconception. It happens to everyone :) |
16:07 | <rob_debian> | 'you wasn't'... oh ! Wrong ! |
16:07 | <rob_debian> | You weren't... sorry :) |
16:08 | <rob_debian> | Oh my goodness, when will I write in minimally correct English? |
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16:31 | -!- | carnil is "Salvatore Bonaccorso" on #debian #debian-lts #debian-ctte #debian-devel-changes #debian.ch #debian-next #debian-gnupg #debian-perl |
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16:58 | -!- | Brigo is "realname" on #packaging #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian-es #debian |
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17:16 | -!- | AleksejShilin is "Алексей Шилин" on #debian #debian-l10n-russian #debian-apt |
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17:25 | -!- | Nexamos is ",,," on #oftc |
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17:25 | <Nexamos> | hi |
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17:40 | <sarnold> | : |
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17:57 | -!- | Brainium is "Brainium" on #debian-multimedia #publiclab #qemu #virt #tor-south #tor-project #tor-dev #mm #linux-rt #biz #C #debian-kde #debian |
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18:37 | <Alex_> | I'm having issues installing Debian on a new SSD. I don't know much about computers, but it's an OS I need to run my home automation software. Is this the right channel to ask for installation help? |
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18:38 | <sqrt{not}> | Alex_: yes, this is the place. |
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18:40 | <Alex_> | When I try to boot from the DVD, I get a splash page with a few options, 2 of which are "Graphical Install" or "install". No matter what I pick, the screen goes blank. |
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18:43 | <nvz> | Alex_: care to tell us what kind of machine this is? |
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18:44 | <Alex_> | HP Compaq Elite 8000 SFF |
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18:45 | <Alex_> | 250G SSD, 16GB RAM |
18:45 | <AleksejShilin> | Alex_: How did you create the installation media? |
18:45 | <Alex_> | Downloaded the ISO from debian.org and burned the image onto a DVD |
18:46 | <nvz> | Alex_: https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-compaq-8000-elite-small-form-factor-pc/4065894/document/c01926347 lists 8 different possible video cards, any idea which one you have? |
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18:47 | <sqrt{not}> | Alex_: Also, please tell us the name of the ISO you downloaded (or the URL it came from) |
18:48 | <somiaj> | Alex_: and how you copied the iso to your usb drive. |
18:48 | <blast007> | somiaj: they said burned to a DVD |
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18:48 | <somiaj> | ahh missed that. |
18:49 | <Alex_> | I'm not sure which graphic card, but I'll see if I can find it (I dont know much about computers). |
18:49 | <Alex_> | I downloaded debian-10.2.0-i386-DVD-1 |
18:50 | <sarnold> | 386? that's probably not the media you want anyway |
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18:51 | <sarnold> | grab an amd64 or x86-64 image or whatever it's called :) |
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18:52 | <Alex_> | i also have the amd64 as well, and it does the same thing |
18:52 | <Alex_> | I wasn't sure which one to download, so I got both. |
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18:55 | <AleksejShilin> | Alex_: Could you try Expert Install, please? |
18:56 | <AleksejShilin> | It's in a subcategory. |
18:56 | <Alex_> | yep... sure thing. |
18:57 | <Alex_> | Same issue - blank screen (I just tried both ISO images too). |
18:58 | <sleblanc> | Alex_, also, can you confirm whether you are booting in UEFI mode? |
18:58 | <AleksejShilin> | And no text after selecting that menu option? |
18:59 | <sleblanc> | if you can get your computer to prompt you for a boot device (often called Boot Selection, F10 key) if it boots the disc as UEFI it should have it in the option (e.g. (uefi) Debian 10.2.0 i386) |
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18:59 | <Alex_> | sleblanc - it'll be a min for me to figure that out. |
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19:00 | <Alex_> | Aleksej - yes, 2 lines of text did appear. but then went away |
19:00 | <AleksejShilin> | It means that the kernel doesn't even boot. |
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19:02 | <Alex_> | sleblanc - I'm still looking. I'm in the "HP Setup Utility" after pressing F10, |
19:03 | <sleblanc> | on your machine it might not be the F10 key. basically, you're looking for a key that pauses normal boot sequence and prompts you for a drive to boot, whether it's the hard drive, a dvd or a usb drive |
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19:04 | <Alex_> | oh, that! Ok one second... that's the F9 key fr me |
19:04 | <sleblanc> | Alex_, some machines will have text on the splash screen informing you about that. on my machine it says "Press F2 to enter Setup, F10 for boot selection" |
19:04 | <sleblanc> | and so I'd like to know if it shows you two entries for the disc, with one prefixed with something like (UEFI) |
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19:06 | <Alex_> | It doesn't say anything about UEFI. I have 4 options - (1) CD-ROM (2) USB Device (3) Hard Drive (4) IBA GE Slot 00C8 v1324 |
19:06 | <sleblanc> | hmm :-/ |
19:07 | <sleblanc> | have you verified the disc after burning? you might have a bad burn (more common than you might think) |
19:07 | <sleblanc> | how did you burn the image? |
19:07 | <Alex_> | I have not. I'm not sure how to do that. |
19:08 | <Alex_> | I have a windows 10 computer, I just right clicked on the ISO and selected "Burn to disc" |
19:08 | <Alex_> | actually, it's "Burn disc image" |
19:08 | <sleblanc> | it /should/ be fine |
19:09 | <AleksejShilin> | Given that USB Device is in the list, you could try with a flash drive instead. |
19:10 | <Alex_> | Alek, I did that too... |
19:10 | <sleblanc> | that's what I was about to suggest |
19:10 | <sleblanc> | same result? |
19:10 | <Alex_> | same issue |
19:11 | <Alex_> | But, I think the boot options looks different. I have to re-image the USB because I have the i386 image on it. |
19:11 | <sleblanc> | ok, so turns out the 8000 Elite has no UEFI support according to the following post: https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Hardware-and-Upgrade-Questions/does-my-hp-elite-8000-sff-pc-support-UEFI/td-p/6531757 |
19:11 | <sleblanc> | so that's out of the question then |
19:12 | <Alex_> | oh... like, out of the question, debian cant be loaded on the computer? |
19:12 | <blast007> | is there a video card in a slot on that system, or is it just the onboard graphics? |
19:12 | <sleblanc> | no, not like that |
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19:12 | <sleblanc> | I mean, I was suspecting an UEFI problem, but your computer does not have UEFI so we're dealing with plain ole BIOS boot |
19:12 | <sleblanc> | (which arguably is simpler) |
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19:12 | <Alex_> | blast007 - not gonna lie, I'm STILL trying to find the graphics card. There isn't anything else in the slots, so I'm assuming its onboard |
19:13 | <Alex_> | ah, ok. Ugh... I would get the wrong kind of computer |
19:13 | <blast007> | k, then it'd just be in Intel GMA 4500 |
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19:13 | <blast007> | an* |
19:13 | <sleblanc> | it's a small form factor PC, so I doubt a graphics card could even fit inside |
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19:13 | <blast007> | sleblanc: HP offered 4 different add-in GPUs with that model |
19:14 | <sleblanc> | I see |
19:14 | <Alex_> | There are some empty slots, but idk what they're for. |
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19:16 | <blast007> | sounds like it may need a BIOS update: https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Hardware-and-Upgrade-Questions/need-bios-update-for-hp-compaq-8000-elite-sff/td-p/7065841 |
19:16 | <sleblanc> | >But it appears they require Windows to be installed in order to run the updater |
19:16 | <sleblanc> | that's sad |
19:17 | <Alex_> | ugh, great.... so I have to install windows first? |
19:18 | <sleblanc> | Alex_, can you locate a BIOS version number in the boot screen? a forum post said they upgraded from 1.02 to 1.03 |
19:18 | <Alex_> | yep, one second. |
19:18 | <sarnold> | "need bios update to run newer linux kernels" -- interesting, I wonder if older linux systems will work okay |
19:18 | <sarnold> | in which case you might be able to use fwupd to install bios updates without windows, I know some of the vendors are starting to use this to distribute bios updates |
19:19 | <blast007> | the latest version is 1.14 |
19:19 | <sleblanc> | https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Hardware-and-Upgrade-Questions/Elite-8000-Ultra-slim-BIOS-upgrade/td-p/6869446 |
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19:19 | <Alex_> | system bios is 1.07 |
19:20 | <aloo_shu> | what would newer kernels demand of BIOSes that older ones didn't, sarnold ? |
19:20 | <sleblanc> | I think the person who replied about needing windows to flash the BIOS was misinformed. if you download the BIOS image, it's a self-extractable executable that contains a DOS helper to flash the BIOS |
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19:21 | <sleblanc> | you can use cabextract on Linux to extract the image, if you do not have a Windows computer. no need for wine (or vodka) |
19:21 | <sarnold> | aloo_shu: many of the kernel-side microarchitectural attack mitigations rely upon new instructions in the microcode; it's possible a system without microcode installed may have trouble.. |
19:21 | <Alex_> | that last comment was completely German to me lol. |
19:22 | <blast007> | there may be a "Flash System ROM" option in the BIOS setup utility. See "How do I update the BIOS when not running Windows 7, Vista, Windows XP, or DOS?" at http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c01955362 |
19:23 | <Alex_> | Yes, that option is available |
19:23 | <sleblanc> | Alex_, some person on an HP support forum said "You need Windows to update your BIOS" but I think they were wrong. I just downloaded a BIOS image for your board (v1.07 though) and used an app called "cabextract" on Linux to get the contents. I found out it contains a "DOS Flash" folder so you would not need Windows to update your BIOS |
19:23 | <Alex_> | ah, ok. |
19:24 | <sleblanc> | they even packed a "BIOS CD" ISO |
19:24 | <Alex_> | I have a bunch of blank DVDs, can I put it on a DVD and update the BIOS? |
19:25 | <sleblanc> | probably |
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19:25 | <sleblanc> | the HP doc also says that there is a built-in utility in your BIOS that can read the file from USB storage |
19:25 | <sleblanc> | you might want to try that first, before using an ever so pricey blank DVD |
19:26 | <Alex_> | Good point. Let me try that. I'm looking for the bios ISO |
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19:26 | <sleblanc> | check out blast007's link, on page 6 it shows you how to load the file from USB storage |
19:26 | <Alex_> | Yep, I see it. |
19:27 | <sleblanc> | i think it reads the file you copy on a regular thumb drive, FAT partition, not an ISO |
19:27 | <Alex_> | oh! ok. |
19:28 | <sleblanc> | it can also read from diskettes, if you are that kind of person |
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19:29 | <Alex_> | lol, no. I'm 34 |
19:29 | <dvs> | a caveman? |
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19:34 | <Alex_> | When I tried to "Flash System ROM" from USB, I got "file system damaged". I'm gonna grab another USB and give it another shot |
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19:41 | <Alex_> | *sigh* I keep getting the "file is missing or damaged" error |
19:41 | <sarnold> | what type of filesystem are you using? |
19:42 | <Alex_> | .exe |
19:42 | <sarnold> | I wouldn't be surprised if the bios can only read a few of the FAT formats.. probably not all of them and almost certainly no ext2/3/4.. |
19:44 | <Alex_> | Im not sure what the filesystem is |
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19:46 | <sarnold> | when the usb mass storage device is mounted, 'mount' will show you what type of filesystem it is |
19:47 | <Alex_> | FAT32 |
19:47 | <Alex_> | is that what you were asking? |
19:47 | <sarnold> | yeah |
19:47 | <sarnold> | probably the bios can do fat32. I hope the bios can do fat32. |
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19:50 | <Alex_> | I'm looking for another exe. Idk if the one I downloaded is bad or not. |
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19:50 | <kin> | hola |
19:51 | <sney> | !es |
19:51 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat. |
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19:56 | <Alex_> | Well, seems to be a bios issue right now and I'm trying to update it. This is gonna take me a while to figure out. I apprecate the help that every gave me. |
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20:02 | <Alex_> | HOLY CRAP!! I updated the BIOS to v1.14 and now I'm able to install Debian!! THANK YOU ALL!! |
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20:03 | <sarnold> | nice :D |
20:04 | <blast007> | yay! |
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20:36 | <aloo_shu> | hp should donate to debian :) |
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21:51 | <n4ch0m4n> | hi |
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21:52 | <n4ch0m4n> | hi |
21:52 | <sarnold> | hello |
21:53 | <n4ch0m4n> | where are from? |
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21:55 | <gry> | Hi n4ch0m4n |
21:55 | <gry> | i am from Oceania |
21:55 | <gry> | how can i help you? |
21:56 | <n4ch0m4n> | i am fine,thanks |
21:56 | <n4ch0m4n> | no dude |
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21:56 | <sney> | !chat |
21:56 | <dpkg> | This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net. |
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23:14 | <manju> | hi |
23:14 | <manju> | hello |
23:14 | <manju> | debin |
23:14 | <dvs> | eh? |
23:14 | <manju> | hey |
23:15 | <manju> | is there any |
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23:17 | <manju> | hello |
23:17 | <dvs> | !ask |
23:17 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
23:17 | <gry> | yes, hello |
23:17 | <gry> | how are you, manju? |
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23:18 | -!- | illwieckz is "Thomas Debesse" on #debian #debianfr #oolite #oolite-dev |
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23:19 | <manju> | iam fine what about u friend |
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23:20 | <gry> | good |
23:20 | <gry> | are you running debian? is it working for you? |
23:20 | <manju> | yes of course |
23:21 | <gry> | good |
23:21 | <manju> | where are u from |
23:22 | <gry> | I am from Russia, so I use #debian-ru sometimes |
23:22 | <gry> | where are you from? did you find your local channnel? |
23:22 | <manju> | okay |
23:22 | <manju> | iam from india |
23:22 | <gry> | ah |
23:22 | <gry> | good :) you can use #debian-in |
23:23 | <manju> | iam new user in debian |
23:23 | <gry> | click here >> #debian-in << |
23:23 | <manju> | :) |
23:23 | <gry> | or, if it does not click, you can write like this: |
23:23 | <gry> | /join #debian-in |
23:24 | <manju> | yes iam here in channel |
23:24 | <gry> | I think you have to register your nickname before you can join #debian-in |
23:24 | <gry> | type '/msg nickserv help register' without quotes and follow the instructions |
23:24 | <gry> | you can do it later too if you want |
23:25 | <manju> | okay thanks |
23:25 | <gry> | you're welcome |
23:26 | <manju> | are u hacker :) |
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