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#debian IRC Logs for 2019-12-05

---Logopened Thu Dec 05 00:00:11 2019
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00:07<twb>Default-Release isn't working the way I thoought it did
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00:09<twb>I have a debian 10 stable setup, but I'm cherry-picking wireguard from unstable
00:09<twb>http://ix.io/23AU is what I see
00:10<twb>Why is buster-backports 100 and not 500?
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00:34<grawity>I was just trying to understand yesterday how my "use wireguard with stable" preferences file works
00:36<grawity>I *think* backports are 100 because installed packages are 100 as well, so they'll get upgraded from backports *if* the installed package also comes from backports, but not in any other case
00:36<grawity>I suspect that's why my setting of 100 for the whole a=testing/a=unstable happens to work as well
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00:38<twb>grawity: OK so my actual problem is this:
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00:39<twb>after setting a default release and adding an unstable source, it's trying to upgrade *away from* backports, to unstable
00:39<twb>Which "apt-cache policy" seems to suggest is because backports is 100 and unstable is 500
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00:40<twb>My initial guess is this is because of something like "NotAutomatic: yes" in the backports release file
00:41<grawity>well, it seems that default-release only bumps priority of n=buster, not n=buster-backports, which is a different string
00:41<grawity>matches the docs, at least.
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00:45<twb>yep that makes sense
00:46<twb>but then shouldn't both b-b and sid be 500, or both be 100 ?
00:46<grawity>according to manpage, -backports gets 100 because of NotAutomatic:
00:47<grawity>so personally I just use "Pin: release a=unstable" "Pin-Priority: 100" to make it work the same way as backports do
00:48<twb>OK, I'll do that too I guess
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02:16<porridge>hi, looks like the firefox-esr version in Debian 9 (68.2.0_20191106112211/20191106112211) is slightly newer than the one in Debian 10 (68.2.0_20191022215001/20191022215001) - which leads to firefox refusing to use the existing profile after upgrade to buster
02:17<porridge>Is this a known issue?
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02:25<pregamesnacks>hello
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02:46<porridge>ok, reported as https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=946193
02:46<porridge>looks like this might have been a regression in a security update...
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12:16<Vitus>ls
12:16<Vitus>Hello
12:17<retrospectacus>!ask
12:17<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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12:21<Vitus>!ask
12:21<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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12:22<Vitus>Hello guys
12:22<retrospectacus>!chat
12:22<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
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12:27<sqrt{not}>Vitus, if you do have a debian, question, please feel free to ask us
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12:37<Vitus>retr
12:37<Vitus>what's is linux-Kernel
12:37<Vitus>?
12:37<Vitus>!chat
12:37<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
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12:38<retrospectacus>this is also not google
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14:04<grummund>Is there a trick to getting windows apps installed under Wine to appear in the XFCE menu?
14:04<grummund>In debian 8 it just worked, i think, but not so debian 10 it seems.
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14:06<somiaj>did you check that wine is still putting the .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications?
14:07<grummund>ok there are .destop files under ~/.local/share/applications/wine/Programs/
14:09<somiaj>could be the main xdg menu of xfce no longer includes programs of the type listed
14:09<somiaj>I don't know the xdg menu specs that clearly though, but that could explain the change. maybe games are no longer listed in the main xfce menu.
14:10<nvz>there is a ShowOnlyIn= parameter but I doubt that would be set
14:10<nvz>that shows it only in the listed desktop(s)
14:10<grummund>Wine is in the menu edtor - https://i.imgur.com/25H2HVf.png
14:10<somiaj>maybe compare the xdg .menu file in /etc from jessie to buster, that sets what program types are actually shown
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14:13<grummund>aha, repositioning the entry up brings it to life. - https://i.imgur.com/Mefwjf4.png
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14:18<somiaj>https://specifications.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-1.0.html -- might explain what is happening if you care
14:19<grummund>i always care! :)
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14:22<gry>nice work, grummund :)
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16:52<somiaj>Hello, do you have a question about debian bookworm ?
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17:06<sney>kts: do you have a question to go with that?
17:10<kts>That bug of upstream shall be fixed soon.
17:10<kts>Which also relate to Buster.
17:11<kts>*relates
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17:14<kts>sney, Question: Will they incorporate the patch when it's released?
17:14<sney>a lot of patches are backported to stable kernels
17:14<sney>whether this one will be depends on several factors
17:15<sney>if there is an existing open bug regarding this issue, that raises the chances
17:15<sney>newer kernels are also available for stable via debian-backports. sometimes fixed drivers are only available this way
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19:18<jacky>is there a channel for APT development?
19:18<jacky>I'm curious about implementing a new transport layer
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19:20<sqrt{not}>jacky: #debian-apt on this server, seems to be active "Development of APT, aptitude, and apt-file "
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19:20<AleksejShilin>jacky: #debian-apt
19:20<AleksejShilin>A little too late, huh.
19:21<jacky>the more the merrier :0
19:21<jacky>*thank you
19:21<sqrt{not}>glad we agree. there are 32 people in that channel right now
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19:21<AleksejShilin>...including me.
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19:22<AleksejShilin>And I can confirm that it is active.
19:22<sqrt{not}>thanks, good to know
19:24<AleksejShilin>jacky: Don't expect an answer immediately though since both APT devs live in Europe, and it's night time there.
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19:26<jacky>wait there's only two devs on the team?
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19:26<sarnold>who's the second? :)
19:27<Lucent>running debian 8.11 (for caldera support) and booting UEFI with an asus rog extreme something or another with an intel 9260 wifi adapter and iwlwifi won't get it to show up. any tips? i really don't know what i'm doing
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19:30<AleksejShilin>Well, 2 most active ones. :)
19:31<sarnold>(joining the channel was enough for me to recognize the second one :) hehe
19:31<sarnold>Lucent: wild guess, you'll probabl yneed a newer kernel
19:32<sqrt{not}>Lucent: do you have the non-free firmware-iwlwifi package installed ?
19:32<Lucent>i do, i think it's from jessie-backports. kernel is 4.9
19:32<Lucent>the firmware for 9260 didn't show up in lib/firmware so i copied it from the intel download but i doubt that's enough
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19:37<Lucent>intel support says 4.14+ for 9260, can i get that kernel on 8.11?
19:38<sqrt{not}>Lucent: yah, the jessie version doesn't have any 9260 firmware, but the buster version has 3 versions, depending your exact model i guess
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20:07<nvz>Lucent: if you compile it yourself
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20:24<sqrt{not}>Lucent: stretch has backport kernels 4.19, maybe you could use a stretch version of caldera
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