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00:19<Mahishasura>hi
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00:39<newton>hi
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01:26<musacesur>D
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01:27<sebxxx_>hello world
01:27<sebxxx_>Can you tell me what you think is the most advanced book on debian systems please ?
01:28<sebxxx_>I think the cis security benchmark for the last debian system is a good place to start
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01:32<sebxxx_>no early riser this morning :)
01:32<ypatis>Hello. I installed debian in a system with asus p8h61 motherboard, strix-gtx950 graphics card and intel i5 processor. In the first reboot of the system the screen is black. What can i do so that the system recognize the graphic card?
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01:38<sebxxx_>ypatis: can you boot in recovering mode ?
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01:40<ypatis>I tried it but no, it doesn't boot.
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01:44<ypatis>the last line in the screen is [37.581282] random: 7 urandom warning(s) missed due to ratelimiting
01:45<sebxxx_>Can you try to specify in grub the option : modprobe.blacklist=nouveau ?
01:46<ypatis> how can i do that?
01:47<sebxxx_>ypatis: You must edit grub boot
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01:48<sebxxx_>ypatis: enter 'e' in boot
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01:49<ypatis>ok i did it and i can see the commands
01:50<ypatis>is there a way to search for modproble.blacklist....?
01:51<sebxxx_>ypatis: search it ?
01:52<ypatis>now that i'm in the screen where i can edit grub what should i do?
01:52<kingsley__>How do you check if an executable was compiled with a certain option? Is there a command line tool that can be used like...
01:53<kingsley__>$ tool binary | egrep a-compile-time-option
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01:54<sebxxx_>ypatis: this url is usefull : https://askubuntu.com/questions/1129516/black-screen-at-boot-after-nvidia-driver-installation-on-ubuntu-18-04-2-lts
01:55<themill>kingsley__: In general you have to look at the build system to find such things out. There are a very small number of things like pie, linking, debug symbols that leave a signature within the executable itself
01:55<ypatis>thank you
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01:57<kingsley__>themill: Oh
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02:06<ypatis>sebxxx_
02:10<ypatis>sebxxx_: From the post you send me i tried the option with the nouveau.modeset=0 adn it worked.
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02:11<ypatis>After restarting the problem comes back. How can i keep this option nouveau.modeset=0 permanently?
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02:23<kingsley__>themill: Thank you for your continuing encouragement and advice. I'm happy to report your reasonable suggestion led me to rules for building the package at tracker.debian.org, and they answered my question.
02:24<themill>:)
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02:25<themill>For things in Debian packages, the compilation options are an awkward combination of the compiler defaults, debian build system defaults, maintainer config, upstream config (each of which can also change over time)
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11:28<greyltc[m]>Hi everyone. I'm planning on making some network configuration changes on a remote machine running jessie
11:28<greyltc[m]>right now I have in my /etc/network/interfaces
11:28<greyltc[m]>allow-hotplug eth0
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11:29<greyltc[m]>iface eth0 inet dhcp
11:30<greyltc[m]>and i was planning on switching to systemd's network config method
11:30<greyltc[m]>https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_modern_network_configuration_without_gui
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11:33<greyltc[m]>should I delete/rename /etc/network/interfaces or can I leave it there after I make /etc/systemd/network/dhcp.network
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11:45<somiaj>you should at a minimum comment out the interfaces in the interfaces file so you don't have two methods configuring your network
11:46<jimpop>but you should leave the interface settings for "lo" alone
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13:20<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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13:57<greyltc[m]>remote network config migration complete! :-D I switched from debian's interfaces file to systemd-networkd and i switched from the old style eth0 udev interface naming scheme to the newer enp0s1 style name
13:57<greyltc[m]>all remotely over ssh
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13:58<jmcnaught>nice
13:59<greyltc[m]>it should be noted that the above advice I got in this channel was maybe incorrect (I completely removed debian's /etc/network/interfaces file as instructed here https://wiki.debian.org/SystemdNetworkd while switching to systemd-networkd)
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14:03<greyltc[m]>now i feel ready to do jessie --> buster
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14:08<jmcnaught>greyltc[m]: don't forget stretch! You can't skip releases during upgrades.
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14:09<greyltc[m]>that was a typo
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14:10<greyltc[m]>I'm on debian 9 stretch currently
14:10<greyltc[m]>thank you for looking out though!
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14:10<jmcnaught>Yeah I thought it might be a typo but sometimes people don't know this.
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15:38<rreid_>Has anyone experineced kswapd0 taking all cpu cycles? It actually causes the computer to crash. I have lots of memory, 16GB, and it still happens even when rebooting without GUI.
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15:45<guardian>hello, when a package enters backports new
15:45<guardian>what happens next?
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15:46<sqrt{not}>guardian, then some people who think they need that version install it via APT tools
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15:54<guardian>I mean there's a delay apparently until it's available
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15:55<Wakeupworld>Hi!
15:55<b1ackandwh1te>hi, im under linux debian buster, first time i want try unstable in development, i would like to taste and contribute with bug reports for debian bullseye. but i cant find how to install it.
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15:57<rany>b1ackandwh1te, If you want to install unstable, first install Stable and then change "buster" to "sid" in /etc/apt/sources.list.
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15:57<rany>Then you do `apt dist-upgrade`
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15:58<rany>Obviously when you're installing stable install only your base system. Then when you upgraded to sid you could install whatever you want
15:59<sqrt{not}>guardian, delay between when and when ? the announcement of a backport is usually announcing acceptance of the source code change. then there is a delay whil the build daemons convert that source into a binary parckage, and get that binary into the mirrors.
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16:00<sqrt{not}>rany, also note that unstable is not the same as bullseye
16:00<rany>b1ackandwh1te, I think you're confused between unstable and testing. Unstable is sid (and it's name never changes). And Testing is bullseye (it's name changes to become stable's name).
16:00<rany>sqrt{not}, he refers to unstable and testing at the same time
16:00<b1ackandwh1te>well i just parrot sid in freenode, i think im not in sid.
16:01<sqrt{not}>rany, sorry, yes, i should have directed that remark to b1ackandwh1te
16:01<b1ackandwh1te>hmmm, and how i install sid?
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16:01<rany>b1ackandwh1te, I've given you the instructions above.
16:02<sqrt{not}>b1ackandwh1te, what about parrot ? are you running parrot OS ??
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16:03<rany>Isn't Parrot a live system? IIRC it's a pentesting disro
16:03<sqrt{not}>!parrot
16:03<dpkg>Parrot Linux is a distribution based on <testing> for security experts, developers and privacy aware people. It is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Support can be found in #parrotsec on Freenode or the community pages https://docs.parrotlinux.org/community. Ask me about <based on debian> and <parrot-overnight>. If you are new to linux, try using Debian: http://www.debian.org.
16:03<b1ackandwh1te>ran, got it... sid in /etc/apt/sources.list, thanks.
16:04<sqrt{not}>b1ackandwh1te, if you want to contribute to "testing" the instructions for bullseye (testing) are different
16:04<sney>b1ackandwh1te: read https://deb.li/sidfaq for some more information and best practices.
16:05<rany>b1ackandwh1te, if you want testing, instead of replacing buster to sid you would replace it with bullseye
16:05<rany>and then you'd run `apt dist-upgrade`
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16:08<b1ackandwh1te>rany, sney, i really want to taste the latest news. i have a vm ready to crash, i dont bother.
16:08<sney>whatever that means.
16:08<b1ackandwh1te>im sorry
16:08<sney>you have the instructions to install sid, follow them, and if you have any more questions go to #debian-next
16:09<b1ackandwh1te>IF unstable sid eventually bug or crash i dont bother.
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16:09<guardian>sqrt{not}: thanks
16:11<b1ackandwh1te>sometimes, i got misunderstood in my phrasal constructs.
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16:16<annadane>parrot is not debian, at all
16:16<sqrt{not}>b1ackandwh1te, very good -- in a VM you don't have much to lose.
16:16<b1ackandwh1te>yes sqrt{not}
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16:17<b1ackandwh1te>annadane, i parroted you, when you told sid i got lost :P
16:18<sqrt{not}>b1ackandwh1te, if you are chatting on both IRC networks at the same time, prepare to get confused.
16:18<b1ackandwh1te>heh
16:19<sqrt{not}>b1ackandwh1te, fo bonus confusion, open #debian in both places, and add several more OFTC channels from: https://wiki.debian.org/IRC
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16:27<b1ackandwh1te>my lack of skills in english always lead me to troubles heheh
16:27<sney>just keep it simple and you'll be fine
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18:01<b1ackandwh1te>even in wiki.debian they say sid is not debian. why?
18:02<b1ackandwh1te>because is not stable i guess.
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18:02<sney>b1ackandwh1te: as you have been told repeatedly, please ask sid questions in #debian-next
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18:44<tomazzi>testing connection
18:45<sney>!test
18:45<dpkg>Test failed.
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18:48<capn>Is there any way (besides manual partitioning) to set the size of swap during install, preferably with preseed?
18:48<capn>When creating vm's with a lot of ram, the swap usually consumes most of the disk.
18:50<capn>I guess I could modify the default partitioning preseed recipe
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19:14<sqrt{not}>capn: some advice here, if you didn't already see it: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/apbs04.en.html#preseed-partman
19:15<capn>Thanks, I'm working on that now. I am just going to change the swap % from 200 to something more sensible for now
19:17<tomazzi>cpan: use 'sparse files' - much more flexible than dedicated partitions... (man fallocate) -> swapon -> fstab
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19:18<capn>ok I'll look into that. The preseed partitioning gets pretty complicated
19:19<capn>appreciate it
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20:04<rofail>hhhey
20:04<sney>hi
20:04<rofail>so i'm unsure why i'm having issues but for whatever reason i can't track down which flash file i need to install for firefox ...
20:05<rofail>i used to use i think it was... peppermint flash?
20:05<sney>flash is unsupported in buster.
20:05<sney>there used to be a pepper flash plugin but it didn't keep up.
20:06<rofail>oh srsly? lol
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20:10<rofail>so, theoretically speaking, if i did haave a flash plug-in, would AVI files play inside of my browser, say if accessing them from my server?
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20:11<sney>one of the reasons flash is dead is that you don't need it for in-browser video anymore. html5 completely replaced it.
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20:12<rofail>hm right, i guess i just remember at some point in time that all of my AVI files were playable via my webbrowser as opposed to me downloading them, and then playing them with vlc.
20:12<rofail>just kinda wish i could get that gojng again..
20:13<sney>yeah that has nothing to do with flash
20:14<rofail>ah snap, that's what i thought might've changed... wonder what button i should press to get that bit of magic happening again.
20:15<sney>I just opened a video from my hard drive in a firefox tab and it's playing, no fuss
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22:01<sn1p3r>hello
22:01<sney>hi
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22:02<sn1p3r>anybosy here is a hacker
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22:02<sney>why would we tell you
22:03<sney>!parrot-overnight
22:03<dpkg>Installing Parrot or Kali on your computer will not make you into a security expert overnight. If you really want to have those skills, install a general purpose linux distro like Debian (www.debian.org), learn at least one programming language, and learn about networking. Eventually you may have the skills that make a pentesting distro a useful tool.
22:03<sn1p3r>i know 5 programming languages
22:04<annadane>!offtopic
22:04<dpkg>#debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
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23:10<rob_debian>Hi all, please I tried to install 'lxterminal_0.3.0-2_amd64.deb' manually, for I don't want to use the most recent version of lxterminal available in debian repository. But, instead of installing successfully 0.3.0-2_, I had this surprise: installed exactly the version I avoid: https://paste.debian.net/1148523/
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23:10<annadane>,v lxterminal
23:10<judd>Package: lxterminal on amd64 -- jessie: 0.2.0-1+deb8u1; stretch: 0.3.0-2; buster: 0.3.2-1; bullseye: 0.3.2-1+b1; sid: 0.3.2-1+b1
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23:11<annadane>rob_debian, apt install /home/r4fkramer/Downloads/./lxterminal_0.3.0-2_amd64.deb
23:11<somiaj>you don't have all the depends for that older version, you need more than just that single .deb it seems.
23:12<somiaj>,v libvte9
23:12<judd>Package: libvte9 on amd64 -- jessie: 1:0.28.2-5; stretch: 1:0.28.2-5+b2; bullseye: 1:0.28.2-6; buster: 1:0.28.2-6; sid: 1:0.28.2-6
23:12<somiaj>hmm, well that package does exist on buster...
23:12<rob_debian>Hi annadane, thank you for attending me. That's exactly what I was asking about libvte9, but somiaj was faster
23:13<rob_debian>Before trying to install this dependency, I was first ask you about it - if it was the case of installing it
23:13<rob_debian>For, it's related to a previous debian version (stretch, I think)
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23:14<rob_debian>somiaj, if this package is still available for 'buster', so I just have to install it and fix this issue.
23:15<somiaj>The package you are isntalling wasn't designed to install on buster, you may have to manually track down each of its depends and see if you can meet them in buster. Another option is to build it from source against the libaries in buster
23:17<somiaj>also you will want to pinn it/put it on hold, other apt will keep trying to upgrade it.
23:18<rob_debian>I'll try it here - initially I tried to compile an even older package, 0.3.0, but I had trouble compiling using the traditional './configure', 'make' and 'make install' mode
23:19<rob_debian>Oh, so I'll have to build it from scratch....
23:20<rob_debian>Well, the only dependency I saw through 'dpkg -i'is 'libvte9'
23:21<rob_debian>Oh, probably I'll have to install dependencies from other dependencies....
23:21<rob_debian>ad infinitum....
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23:26<rob_debian>annadane, it was possible installing lxterminal 0.3.0 here just installing the only needed dependency for it in buster: 'libvte9'
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23:26<rob_debian>Now it's installed here and running fine. Thank you very much for attention and Great Support, annadane and somiaj !
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23:28<annadane>rob_debian, just a word of advice, you don't need to say people's names every time when thanking them, when your issue is resolved
23:28<annadane>saying my name pings me on my client and you do it every time
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23:31<annadane>pinging people with a solution, like you did, or addressing someone when you're getting your problem answered or answering another problem is fine but maybe tone it down on the pings when the issue is resolved
23:31<rob_debian>I did not know that. I usually tend to do this when I want to express my gratitude for the help and attention that You give me.
23:32<rob_debian>You could have warned me a long time ago that this was causing you some problem ...
23:32<annadane>it's not "that" big of a nuisance, really
23:32<rob_debian>Well, sorry...
23:32<rob_debian>:(
23:34<rob_debian>It's not a big hassle, but it bothered you enough; anyway, sorry again and thanks for attention and great support.
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23:35<somiaj>Irc just has different etiquette, we are often working or doing other things, so just stick to support, hello's/goodbyes/thankyouse, though welcome, aren't considered necessary
23:35<somiaj>oh they left
23:37<annadane>yes... working. totally not playing a video game when i should be doing other things
23:37<annadane>working.
23:41<somiaj>you are working, I suspect energy is being spent, thus equating to work...
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