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#debian IRC Logs for 2020-10-18

---Logopened Sun Oct 18 00:00:48 2020
00:13-!-ol [~quassel@2406:e003:854:6901:8e89:a5ff:feca:57fe] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
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00:16-!-preview is "preview" on #debian
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00:16-!-zykotick9 is "ZykoticK9" on #debian-next #debian
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00:28-!-maschinwnhans is "maschinwnhans" on #debian #linux #redditprivacy #ceph #freedombox ##politics #oftc +#realraum #biz #subgraph #mm #badgeteam #bcache #debian-next
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00:38-!-secntech is "tp" on #tor-project #suckless #redditprivacy #Qubes_OS #privacytech #freedombox #debian #cryptoparty
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00:41-!-diogenes_oftc is "Nicolas" on #debian
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00:46-!-bigfluff is "bigfluff" on #debian #debian-offtopic
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00:56-!-ws2k3 is "ton witenberg" on #debian @#xcp-ng #ceph #ceph-devel
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01:01-!-agentcasey is "Mark Anthony Paul Hammond" on #debian
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01:06-!-TLGL is "TLGL" on #debian-next #debian
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01:46-!-brunoramos_ is "ZNC - https://znc.in" on #debian-perl #packaging #oftc #help #debian
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01:54-!-capturixeur2 is "Olivier Humbert" on #debian #debian-l10n-fr #debian-next #oftc
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07:19<tlgl^nix>hey everyone i just installed and configured my new system and my $path is blank what would i use to set the default path of PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/root/bin"
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07:26<blast007>tlgl^nix: it's $PATH, not $path.
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07:31<tlgl^nix>ok that works fine then
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07:42<alex11>should third party .debs generally be removed when moving from debian 10 -> 11 when it releases?
07:42<alex11>i suppose that'll be in the release notes
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10:09<u01>I have a strange problem that I noticed.
10:09<u01>Why is debian.org (149.20.4.15 in america) down in Switzerland (130.89.148.77)?
10:09<u01>I am only noticing this with a VPN. Can anyone verify it's not my VPN provider and that debian.org is actually down in Switzerland?
10:09<u01>This does not apply to wiki.debian.org or any subdomains, just debian.org
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10:11<nevivurn>u01: up for me
10:12<u01>probably my vpn provider then
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10:12<nevivurn>also, debian.org just has 3 A records, it's not doing any fancy geo-dns as far as I can see.
10:12<jess>i'd check your external IP against IP blacklists
10:12<jess>dronebl or so. if that's fine, try a traceroute
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10:13<nevivurn>In case your browser is doing weird stuff, I'd test it with something like `curl https://debian.org --resolve debian.org:130.89.148.77:443` just to make sure
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10:19<u01__>yeah, it was probably blacklisted
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10:20<u01__>thanks for the verification, i'll check better next time
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11:35<Guest3757>hey folks, does anyone know a good clear tutorial/how-to on how to install wordpress under debian?
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11:37<bremner>I don't know much about wordpress, but "apt install wordpress" should get you started
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11:44<jhutchins>Guest3757: I recommend doing it OUTSIDE dpkg, direct from WP. There's a WP CLI utility that does a good job.
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11:45<jhutchins>Guest3757: You're going to want to maintain updates direct from WP anyway.
11:46<Guest3757>It's been ages since I installed a webserver (15+ years). I've started with debian to build webservers back in 2000 but now everything seems a maze to me. Sorry to say this but I'm looking for the easy way out
11:47<jhutchins>Do everything except WP with dpkg.
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11:47<jhutchins>!apache
11:47<dpkg>Apache HTTPD is a versatile, high-performance HTTP server. Ask me about <apache2>, <install apache>, <apache manual>. See also <cnrd>, <userdir>, <htaccess>. http://wiki.debian.org/Apache http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/FAQ http://httpd.apache.org/ #httpd on irc.freenode.net.
11:48<bremner>the real easy way out is pay someone to host for you, I guess
11:48<sney>digitalocean's setup docs are usually good, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-nginx-mariadb-php-lemp-stack-on-debian-10
11:49<sney>(the ufw stuff is optional and I don't know why they included it, but otherwise this is how to make a webserver)
11:49<sney>then switch to wordpress's manual
11:49<Guest3757>bremner: I need something that could possibly run ' on premis'
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11:52<jhutchins>!wp-cli
11:54<Guest3757>ROFL, sorry guys! I installed debian with the KDE desktop. Everytime I open a link it starts Konqueror which crashes alsmost instantly....
12:07<jhutchins>Guest3757: What release are you on?
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12:23<Guest3757>jhutchins: 10
12:24<sney>the kde task also comes with chromium and the system settings are pretty straightforward for changing that default.
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12:57<Alik>здравствуйте, у меня kali linuks команды не понимает пишет что такой команды нет
12:57<jello>!ru
12:57<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.oftc.net) - debian-russian@lists.debian.org
12:57<jello>!kali
12:57<dpkg>Kali Linux https://www.kali.org/ is a security/penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is different enough that we can't provide accurate support in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or https://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian> and read https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html
12:58<Alik> hello, my kali linuks team does not understand writes that there is no such command
13:01<jhutchins>Guest3757: Do you want to troubleshoot or work-around?
13:02<grove>!based on debian
13:02<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
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13:21<Gunzi>good evening everyone, im currently trying to make images of debian releases at specific points in time (debootstrap via snapshot.debian.org) however it seems very unreliable and from searching around i found that this is ratelimited in a not directly documented fashion
13:23<sney>aiui, snapshot is on a single server and is really only intended for one-off downloads of historical uploads, not what you describe.
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13:24<Gunzi>i have tried to work around this by limiting the bandwidth of debootstrap with trickle (64KB/s down, 8KB/s up), but this still leads to packages not being downloaded or skipped
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13:24<Gunzi>hmm alright thats a pity
13:24<sney>there probably *should* be a service for what you describe. I don't know who to ask though
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13:26<Gunzi>okay thats a pity, thank you for the confirmation though :D
13:26<sney>np
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13:29<Gunzi>is it okay to leech at a really slow speed (e.g. 8KB/s)? if i interpret it right (i only saw a note that mentions it being ratelimited in the BisectDebian page) it is limited to 6 connections/sec
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13:31<Gunzi>goal of this is to provide the ability to reproduce states of debian at a specific point in time for university experiments, everything except traffic to snapshot.debian.org is already pulled from the unis own mirrors
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13:37<sney>I would suggest contacting the host or the snapshot team directly, for their recommendations
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13:46<Gunzi>alright thanks, sounds like a better solution than downloading with a kilobits per second in the long run :D
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14:21<grummund>Is there a difference between 'dpkg-buildpackage ...' and 'dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot ...' ?
14:21<sney>presumably, the latter doesn't need to be run as root.
14:22<grummund>the man page mentions 'fakeroot' as being the default, but it's unclear exactly in what context.
14:23<grummund>fwiw, 'dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc' completed without error running as non-root (hello package).
14:24<bremner>sounds like questions for #packaging
14:25<grummund>ok, thanks.
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15:04<jello>Mrfai: pull it from LDAP maybe?
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15:07<DLange>Mrfai: https://salsa.debian.org/dsa-team/mirror/email-virtualdomains/blob/master/debian.org/aliases ?
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16:20<RedBeard72>I use XFCE, when I press microphone button on my T430 Lenovo it shows a microphone symbol with a volume slider all the way down. Any idea how to increase microphone volume?
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16:23<alex11>if you installed xfce from the installer you should have pulseaudio and thus also pavucontrol
16:24<alex11>go to 'input devices'
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16:34<RedBeard72>I think that worked, thanks!
16:35<RedBeard72>Is there a utility that comes with Debian XFCE for recording audio I can test it with?
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16:37<RedBeard72>Nvm, just used audacity.
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16:47<tlgl^nix>i am trying to install libllvm10:i386 and this is what broke my system before as it removes 479 packages since see https://pastebin.com/RnmX765d for the horrible multiarch battle between 64 and 32bit libllvm10 i tried posting in debian-next and been waiting. I was just wondering if i used apt install -f would that automatically remove the 349 64 bit packages with switching from 64bit libllvm10 to 32bit?
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16:56<sqrt{not}>tlgl^nix: I think you have to install _identical_ version numbers of the package in each arch, if you want to avoid such problems
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16:57<sqrt{not}>!multiarch skew
16:57<dpkg>Packages that are marked as co-installable across different architectures can only be installed if the version for each architecture is identical. If the <buildd> network has not kept up, you cannot install them. If only one arch is binNMU'd, you cannot install them. Wait for a while until it is sorted out. Ask me about <multiarch> <multiarch failures>.
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17:35<Rafal>hey
17:35<sqrt{not}>hi Rafal
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18:58<monochrome>hello
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19:01<monochrome>where are you from, i am afrika
19:02<sney>!chat
19:02<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic (either freenode or oftc) or #moocows on irc.oftc.net, ##chat on irc.freenode.net, or search for a chat topic of your choice at https://netsplit.de/channels/
19:02<monochrome>sorry :)
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20:31<wmolina>i have a problem with hmdi port on debian 10.6, can not find a logical solution
20:31<sney>go on
20:32<wmolina>for some reason, it doesnt work, i been looking informacion over the net but it look like its something with the wayland
20:33<wmolina>my laptop its a ideapad s340
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20:34<sney>with intel graphics, or something else?
20:34<wmolina>intel graphics
20:34<sney>what exactly are you trying, and what happens?
20:35<wmolina>im trying to connect to smart tv via hmdi port but nothing happend
20:35<sney>when you connect the cable, does the tv go to sleep or does it say no signal
20:36<wmolina>using this command :lspci | grep VGA
20:36<wmolina>i get this information
20:36<wmolina>00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation UHD Graphics 620 (Whiskey Lake) (rev 02)
20:37<wmolina>as long as i read, its look like the default driver doesnt work correctly
20:37<sney>when you connect the cable, does the tv go to sleep or does it say no signal
20:37<wmolina>it say no signal
20:37<sney>ok.
20:37<sney>if you do 'dmesg | grep -i firmware' what do you see?
20:38<wmolina>let see....give me a second
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20:38<sney>if it's longer than 2 lines, paste it to paste.debian.net instead of the channel
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20:39<wmolina>bash: -i: command not found
20:39<wmolina>dmesg: read kernel buffer failed: Operation not permitted
20:40<wmolina>that the message
20:40<sney>you need to be root for dmesg.
20:40<another>since when?
20:40<wmolina>sorry, im new on this, im trying to learn by myself
20:40<alex11>since debian 10 i think
20:40<sney>another: there are groups that make it unprivileged but I'm keeping it simple here
20:41<another>good to know
20:41<wmolina>well, i have more than 8 year using debian as main operating system, but never have this problem
20:42<sney>!i915 firmware
20:42<dpkg>Some Intel UHD GPUs made after 2015 require firmware from userspace for all features to be enabled. This includes Skylake, Kabylake, Broxton, Cannonlake and possibly others. Ask me about <non-free sources> and install firmware-misc-nonfree to provide.
20:42<sney>^ I'm guessing this is the problem, but we should see it in the logs first before randomly installing things.
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20:43<sney>blame the hardware vendors for blackboxing components that used to be more open
20:44<wmolina>....i see....any idea what can I do in order to fix it? i use my laptop in my job and most of the time i have to make presentation using datashow or smart tv..
20:44<sney>[18:37:37] <sney> if you do 'dmesg | grep -i firmware' what do you see?
20:45<sney>please provide the information we request if you actually want help!
20:45<wmolina>the answer i get after doing that is:
20:45<wmolina>dmesg: read kernel buffer failed: Operation not permitted
20:46<wmolina>bash: -i: command not found
20:46<sney>wmolina: you need to be root for dmesg. I already told you.
20:46<aloo_shu>did you set a root password on install? if yes, do su - and enter root password, if not, try sudo su - , and your user passwd
20:47<wmolina>yes you right sorry, i didnt enter as root
20:47<wmolina>hold on
20:47<sqrt{not}>!sudo su
20:47<dpkg>Typing "sudo su" is like typing "cat file | cat". If you want a non-login shell as root, just use "sudo -s". If you want a login shell, "sudo -i". There's no need to run two different superuser-elevation programs chained back to back. See also <buster su>
20:48<sney>sqrt{not}: I agree but let's keep the pedantry to a minimum until this issue is resolved, don't want to confuse this user any more than necessary
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20:48<aloo_shu>making debian great again
20:48<wmolina>ok, i used: "su -" to log in as root
20:48<wmolina>this is what i get
20:48<wmolina>-bash: -i: command not found
20:49<sney>wmolina: it's a | like the | you used with "lspci | grep VGA"
20:49<sney>dmesg | grep -i firmware
20:49<wmolina>yes, i did that
20:50<wmolina>this one |
20:50<sney>and grep?
20:50<wmolina>my bad...sorry
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20:51<wmolina>ok now i got a multiple lines
20:51<sney>put them in paste.debian.net and link here
20:52<wmolina>ok that link open a website, it that right?
20:53<sney>yes, you paste the lines from dmesg into that website, then submit, and then give us the link so we can see the paste.
20:53<sney>don't paste directly to the channel, you will be kicked automatically if you do that.
20:54<wmolina>check this out
20:54<wmolina>paste.debian.net/1167765
20:54<supaplex>with a pi4 i'm running buster, and cannot locate this firmware via apt-file; bluetooth hci0: firmware: failed to load brcm/BCM4345C0.hcd (-2)
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20:55<sney>supaplex: a lot of broadcom b43 stuff is not distributable by debian. see the b43-fwcutter package to get it
20:56<supaplex>ahh that brings back memories. thanks
20:56<sney>wmolina: ok, you already got the firmware somehow. I'm not sure about those "null device" messages though.
20:57<wmolina>good to hear that
20:58<wmolina>what would be the correct sources.list on debian 10.6?
20:58<sney>!buster sources.list
20:58<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Buster" has the lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main", and optionally "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main". See <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <buster/updates> <buster-updates> and "man sources.list".
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21:00<wmolina>let me send you my source.list just to check if its ok
21:01<wmolina>paste.debian.net/1167768
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21:02<wmolina>sney are you still there?
21:03<sney>that's fine. you can combine your entries, so the one at line 5 could have 'main contrib non-free' at the end, for a shorter file
21:03<sney>but there are no problems here
21:03<wmolina>ok great
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21:04<sney>back to your video problem, you said you are using wayland right?
21:04<wmolina>yes
21:04<wmolina>well, actually its come by default as far as i know
21:05<sney>the default gnome3 debian desktop install, yes
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21:07<sney>if you run 'weston-info' when the hdmi cable and the tv are connected, what do you see?
21:07<sney>if you get 'command not found' you will need to install the 'weston' package.
21:08<wmolina>let me see, im moving to conect the hmdi cable to a smart tv
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21:11<wmolina>well, i plug in the hmdi to the smart tv
21:11<wmolina>then i run the weston-info
21:12<wmolina>and i get command not found
21:12<wmolina>let me see if i can install weston
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21:14<wmolina>would you please tell me how to install weston via console?
21:14<sney>apt install weston
21:14<wmolina>the package its not shown on the software app
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21:15<wmolina>good, it runnig
21:16<wmolina>great
21:16<wmolina>check this now
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21:16<wmolina>paste.debian.net/1167769
21:17<sney>you should run that as your normal user
21:17<wmolina>ohh ok hold on
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21:18<wmolina>ok got it
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21:18<wmolina>paste.debian.net/1167772
21:20<sney>ok, that confirms wayland only sees 1 video output on your computer.
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21:20<sney>does your laptop have a hardware key to enable a second display? sometimes this is a fn key combo.
21:20<wmolina>yes its F10
21:21<wmolina>i have tried already but it doesnt work
21:21<sney>what happens when you try
21:21<sney>ok.
21:21<wmolina>nothing
21:21<wmolina>nothing hapend
21:21<wmolina> i tried with shitf, alt, ctrl and fn
21:21<sney>ok, that probably wasn't going to work, but I wanted to check.
21:22<wmolina>no problem
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21:23<sney>have you tried with xorg instead of wayland? I believe there is a menu at the gdm login screen that lets you choose.
21:23<aloo_shu>I've had a lappy where hdmi could be enabled/disabled in the bios settings
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21:25<wmolina>i was reading about disable wayland but honestly i was scare
21:25<sney>we're not disabling anything, just trying something else
21:27<wmolina>i read about wayland and xorg, but i didnt understand very well, the only thing i got way wayland is aim of Wayland is replacing the X Window System (Also known as X11, or Xorg) with a modern, secure, and simpler windowing system
21:27<sney>correct, that is the aim of wayland
21:27<wmolina>becouse of that i didnt want to mess with xorg
21:28<sney>but it's still new, and some stuff is incomplete.
21:28<wmolina>yes you right
21:29<wmolina>what would you suggest to do?
21:30<sney>log out, and look in the menus in the top right corner, for an option that says xorg or x11. then select that option and log in
21:30<jmcnaught>On gdm3 you select session type with a little gear icon below the password field
21:31<sney>jmcnaught: thanks, I was trying to find screenshots.
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21:31<sney>wmolina: do what jmcnaught said
21:32<wmolina>ok, i will try that, i will be back in a couple of minutes...hopefully
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21:42<wmolina>ok im back
21:42<wmolina>i tried every single option as you said, but nothing happend...
21:42<sney>were you able to log in with the X session?
21:44<wmolina>yes, with every option, the first one was xorg 11, the second was gnome, the 3th was gnome with xord, another one was gnome with xorg, and the last one was weston
21:45<sney>which are you logged in with now?
21:45<wmolina>gnome, the normal
21:45<wmolina>default
21:45<sney>ok, so you don't want more help troubleshooting?
21:46<wmolina>sorry, i miss understand, i thoght one of the option was going to work, but it didnt
21:46<wmolina>so, i log in again by defout
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21:46<wmolina>wich on the option should i log in?
21:47<sney>gnome with xorg
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21:47<wmolina>ok
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21:49<wmolina>ok, im gnome on xorg
21:50<sney>ok! plug in the hdmi cable and the tv, run 'xrandr', paste and link
21:51<wmolina>as a normal user or as root?
21:51<sney>normal user, the one you logged in with
21:53<wmolina>http://paste.debian.net/1167775
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21:55<sney>wmolina: line 38 means it can see a port for an external screen, but it's disconnected. DP-1 means that it's displayport. you said hdmi, are you using an adapter?
21:55<wmolina>nop
21:56<wmolina>its hdmi cable directly to the smart tv
21:56<sney>is there a displayport output on this laptop somewhere? mini-dp even?
21:56<wmolina>....i dont know...let me check
21:57<wmolina>well, beside the hdmi port it a ss port
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21:57<sney>that's just usb I think
21:57<wmolina>yes
21:58<wmolina>my laptop its a lenovo ideapad s340, does it help?
21:59<sney>there are a few generations of s340. can you paste 'lspci -v' for us?
21:59<wmolina>sure
22:00<wmolina>http://paste.debian.net/1167777
22:01<wmolina>in advance, thank you very much for your time, that its exactly why i decide emigrate to linux
22:01<aloo_shu>don't forget giving the bios setup a glance eventually, if you haven't already
22:02<sney>wmolina: you're welcome. volunteers helped me when I started too, we try to keep the cycle going. :)
22:02<sney>wmolina: also, check what aloo_shu says, if the hdmi port is disabled in the bios/efi
22:03<aloo_shu>I'm pretty sure it was an old ideapad that allowed disabling esata, ethernet port, hdmi, for a little less pwr consumption
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22:07<wmolina>ok so, let see if i get it, i need to go to bio and look for hdmi port option?
22:07<sney>yes
22:08<wmolina>ok, i will, hold on
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22:18<wmolina>im back guys, unfortunalty, i check every single option on the bios and it doesnt mention anything about hdmi...at all
22:19<aloo_shu>ok, 1 possibility ruled out
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22:20<wmolina>i mean, debian works for me just fine, the only thing is this...and i need for my job..
22:21<wmolina>beside that, im the only one who is using linux, the rest of the people still using windows...
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22:23<sney>wmolina: how new is this laptop? it looks like lenovo has been reusing this model name for a few years. what does 'head /proc/cpuinfo' say under model name?
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22:24<wmolina>where do i find this?, im in nicaragua, you wont bealive me but this is the latest adquisition in my job..
22:25<blast007>that or see if the bottom says specifically what s340 model it is (something like S340-13IML)
22:25<wmolina>ohhh....let me check
22:26<blast007>If it has a Type-C port, you could also see if anyone has a USB-C docking station you could try. Might be able to output video though a USB Type-C port.
22:26<wmolina>lenovo ideapad s340-15IWL
22:27<sney>ok, 2019, I think it might be worth trying the buster-backports kernel for a newer i915
22:27<wmolina>i was reading something like backports for buster
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22:28<wmolina>however i was not able to find more information to link buster with thisn
22:28<sney>wmolina: in linux, the drivers are part of the kernel, so when you install a newer kernel you get newer driver code. it can be less stable, sometimes, but still pretty good usually
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22:29<wmolina>ok
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22:30<wmolina>i was try to install the best driver for intel graphics, using the synaptic, however, it say it can be used becouse of wayland
22:30<sney>add a line like this to your sources.list: deb https://deb.debian.org/debian buster-backports main
22:30<jmcnaught>Could this be a missing firmware issue?
22:30<sney>jmcnaught: nope, we covered that
22:30<jmcnaught>ok
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22:31<wmolina>ok sney
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22:31<dvs>and intel graphics doesn't use firmware?
22:31<sney>!tell dvs about i915 firmware
22:31<sney>unfortunately
22:32<dvs>and it isn't in the non-free repo?
22:32<sney>it is, and they already have it installed
22:33<wmolina>ok i already add what you said sney
22:33<wmolina>shoud i update and upgrade
22:35<dvs>,v firmware-linux-nonfree
22:35<judd>Package: firmware-linux-nonfree on amd64 -- jessie/non-free: 0.43; jessie-security/non-free: 20161130-5~deb8u1; stretch/non-free: 20161130-5; stretch-backports/non-free: 20190114-2~bpo9+1; buster/non-free: 20190114-2; buster-backports/non-free: 20200918-1~bpo10+1; bullseye/non-free: 20200918-1; sid/non-free: 20200918-1
22:35<sney>apt update, yes. you don't need to upgrade, since nothing will happen
22:35<sney>instead, apt -t buster-backports install linux-image-amd64
22:37<wmolina>http://paste.debian.net/1167779
22:37<wmolina>ok hold on, i will do what you said
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22:38<dvs>wmolina: looks like you have the same line multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list
22:39-!-mode/#debian [+l 696] by debhelper
22:39<sney>I said earlier they could combine some lines, I guess removing the extras didn't happen. still, it's only a warning
22:39<wmolina>sney, it running what you said
22:39<wmolina>it will take a few seconds, hold on
22:40<sney>great. when it finishes, reboot, and then try the external display again
22:40<wmolina>ok its done
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22:41<wmolina>sney check this out
22:41<wmolina>http://paste.debian.net/1167780
22:42<wmolina>sure??
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22:43<sney>ah, one more, apt -t buster-backports install firmware-misc-nonfree
22:43<wmolina>ok
22:44<wmolina>its running
22:46<wmolina>http://paste.debian.net/1167781
22:46<wmolina>let me know if now i need to reboot
22:46<sney>reboot
22:47<wmolina>ok, i will be back in a moment
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22:51<wmolina>nothing happen....
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22:52<wmolina>sney: what time is it where you at?
22:52<sney>9pm
22:52<wmolina>same as nicaragua, where i am
22:52<wmolina>ok, any other sugestion?
22:53<sney>well, now that you're on the new kernel, does xrandr say anything different from last time?
22:53<wmolina>let me run xrandr again
22:54<wmolina>check this out
22:55<wmolina>http://paste.debian.net/1167782
22:55<sney>yep, that looks the same, it still shows DP-1 as disconnected.
22:56<sney>lo siento wmolina, I'm stumped. this should work. :(
22:58<jmcnaught>Has a different HDMI been tested?
22:58<jmcnaught>cable I mean
22:58<wmolina>...well...thank you very much for your time sney....
22:58<themill>is there some strange DP to HDMI converter involved?
22:59<wmolina>jmcnaught: i already try the cable with other laptop and works fine
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22:59<wmolina>themill: no, nothing
22:59<wmolina>the smart tv recognize the hdmi port, however its say no signal
23:00<jmcnaught>For what it is worth, I have a laptop connected to a TV via a DisplayPort to HDMI cable plugged into its dock. Running buster with GNOME/Wayland. So it *can* work.
23:00<themill>Doesn't xrandr normally report HDMI outputs as HDMM-1 not DP-1?
23:00<wmolina>jmcnaugth: good for you, i never had problem with debian before, this is my firt time with this type of problem....
23:01<sney>themill: yeah, it's weird.
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23:01<wmolina>it is weird...
23:02<themill>Then again I look at a laptop here that is connected from a DP output through a converter to an HDMI display and it lists DP-1 as disconnected and HDMI-1 as connected :S
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23:03<wmolina>usually with the previus version of debian, i got on display setting the option for externa monitor, on this new version, i have no option shown
23:04<wmolina>do you know guys where i can submit this problem in order to get a solution?...i dont want to install windows on my laptop...
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23:09<sqrt{not}>wmolina, did you upgrade from the previous version, or did you re-install the new version from an installer ?
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23:10<wmolina>sqrt{not}: i made a clean instalation
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23:13<sqrt{not}>do you know what was the version number or version name of the previous version that was working OK on this laptop ?
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23:18<wmolina>yes, debian 10.5
23:19<wmolina>well, on this laptop no, this is a new laptop that my job provide me
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23:20<sqrt{not}>I see on the internet, some other users of lenovo ideapad s340-15IWL who have same problem, HDMI on DP output doesn't work. The cure, is to install in UEFI mode, not BIOS mode. is your install in BIOS mode or UEFI mode ?
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23:21<wmolina>in uefi mode does not allow to install debian
23:22<dvs>???
23:22<dvs>sure it does
23:22<sney>some uefi implementations are ... wonky
23:22<sney>but a lenovo from 2019 should be able to work
23:22<dvs>Just be sure to turn off SecureBoot
23:22<wmolina>nop, i have to disable uefi mode
23:23<wmolina>the only way to intall debian on this laptop was using legacy mode
23:23<sqrt{not}>wmolina, people here can help you succeed installing in UEFI mode.
23:23<jmcnaught>Shouldn't even need to disable SecureBoot for buster.
23:24<sney>if it lets you select the OS in the uefi menu, and linux isn't an option, pick either "other" or the oldest version of windows
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23:26<wmolina>sqrt{not}: i will need to back up all my stuff, wich are like 120 gb again in order to install debian again
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23:26<lhvf>Hello to Everyone! Are you jello still having problems with a ' "clicking" External HDD" at the moment? URL link of reference: < https://irclogs.thegrebs.com/debian/2020/10/17#23:42 >
23:28<jmcnaught>That was almost 24 hours ago.
23:29<sney>I'm sure someone told him to stick it in the freezer all day, maybe it's being recovered as we speak
23:29<wmolina>thank you guys! i will take some rest now. i will try to be back tomorrow to see if anyone can help me
23:29<wmolina>you guys have a great nigth
23:31<lhvf>jmcnaught: I already know. But looking on the logs, he haven't logged out, as could be seen on the logs. No jokes.
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23:32<jmcnaught>I am sure that someone will come by with a new problem any time now.
23:35<lhvf>sney: If jello come back (since him haven't disconnected until now), he will see my last sent message.
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23:46<lhvf>And how is registered here < https://irclogs.thegrebs.com/debian/2020/10/18#15:04 >, was (really) the last moment that jello have sent his last message at the #debian Support Channel.
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23:47<sney>and physical disk recovery solutions are widely available on the internet and elsewhere, so I doubt jello was waiting with bated breath for you to return with the solution a day later. but who knows. in any case, don't highlight me about it again
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23:56<lhvf>To anyone: Just for historic record, this URL Address set the probable involved variables: < https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2203278 >; and this webpage suggests a simple command for fix the " 'clicking' External HDD Drives" (a working solution when the problem is easy to fix): < https://www.computercorrect.com/2011/operating-systems/linux/ubuntu/fix-for-constant-hard-drive-clicking-in-ubuntu/ >
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