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| 03:38 | -!- | TheRuralJuror is "AP,,," on #debian.or.at #debian-next #security #debian |
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| 04:08 | -!- | Fraggle2 is "Christian Britz" on #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian |
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| 04:20 | -!- | Volley is "Wolfgang Scheicher" on #realraum #packaging #virt #debian-live #debian-kde #debian-next #debian |
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| 04:21 | -!- | mallio is "Rasmus Mattsson Kallio" on #debian-next #debian |
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| 04:23 | -!- | zebrag is "inkbottle" on #oftc #debian-offtopic #debian-kde #debian-next #debian #kernelnewbies |
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| 04:26 | -!- | yedida is "Yedida Cohen" on #debian |
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| 04:34 | -!- | Brigo is "realname" on #debian #debian-es #debian-next #debian-offtopic |
| 04:35 | <yedida> | hi, my laptop fails to boot: a black screen with a blinking cursor immediately after grub's messages of loading kernel and initramfs. |
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| 04:35 | -!- | diogenes_oftc is "Nicolas" on #debian |
| 04:37 | <yedida> | I'm not sure I see any message from the kernel. I tried replacing "quiet" in the grub command line with "debug" and occasionally also "verbose=y earlyprintk=vga", but I still see the same. |
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| 04:42 | <yedida> | System is Debian Testing. It has kernel 5.9.0-5-amd64 . 5.9.0-4-amd64 had the same issue. |
| 04:43 | <yedida> | I am able to mount the partition from a live USB stick, so it's not likely a disk issue. |
| 04:45 | <jm_> | try #debian-next if you're not using stable |
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| 04:47 | <Ulrar> | Hi everyone, quick question. I have a headless server on which I'm doing some video encoding, and I'm trying to get hardware accel working. It's just an intel integrated video, on other distro I get a /dev/dri/render... but on buster the dri folder isn't there at all. I've tried installing mesa and linux-firmware but no change. Am I missing something ? |
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| 04:49 | <Ulrar> | One thing I've noted is even with linux-firmware installed the bluetooth firmware doesn't seem to be added to the initramfs. I'm wondering if maybe there's something wrong with initramfs-update and it might be omitting more than just the bluetooth firmware, if anything is needed at that stage for vaapi |
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| 05:42 | <Ulrar> | Nevermind, just figured it out. Needed the kernel from the backports, this is fairly new hardware |
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| 05:48 | <moritz_> | test |
| 05:48 | <moritz_> | test |
| 05:49 | <bremner> | dpkg: tell moritz_ about ask |
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| 05:55 | <moritz_> | Can you read my messages ? |
| 05:55 | <moritz_> | I am new to IRC |
| 05:55 | <Geolykt> | yes, ofc |
| 05:55 | <moritz_> | thank you |
| 05:56 | <Geolykt> | Would be a stupid system if it wouldn't work |
| 05:57 | <moritz_> | Yes, thats right. I joind via a CLI client, so it is a bit difficult for newbies :D |
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| 05:58 | <moritz_> | Is there a way that no one can see my IP-Pool? |
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| 06:06 | <grove> | moritz_: What IP-Pool? We can see that you've connected from 88.70.132.255 |
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| 09:42 | <znoteer> | I mounted the / of a remote machine on $HOME/mnt on my laptop using sshfs. I want to backup certain things on the remote before upgrading to stable. Files that are readable only by root, or maybe also by some system group, give a Permission denied error when I try "sudo rsync -PaHAEX --noatime --numeric-ids $HOME/mnt/etc <backup-dir-on-laptop>". I was expecting, given that I used sudo, that |
| 09:42 | <znoteer> | I'd be able to read everything in $HOME/mnt. Is there some way around this? I tried using -o allow_user to sshfs and also with -o allow_root but neither got around this. |
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| 09:44 | <azeem> | znoteer: hrm, you used sudo for rsync, but how should sshfs get elevate access on the remote side? Or is that logging in as root? |
| 09:48 | <znoteer> | azeem: I thought ids got mapped with sshfs, so a file readable only by root on the remote should be as accesible as any file readable only by root on the local machine. No? |
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| 09:50 | <azeem> | znoteer: maybe, but if the credentials you use for sshfs do not allow to read those files remotely, what is sshfs gonna do about it? |
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| 09:52 | <Sqrt{not}> | znoteer, rsync is already intended to to backups from one machine to another. why don't you run rsync on the remote, as root, and backup to your target laptop without involving sshfs in it at all? |
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| 09:53 | <znoteer> | azeem: if ids are mapped as I understood (understand, still, I guess) once sshfs mounts the remote it should be impossible to distinguish between a file owned by a remote uid 0 and a local uid 0 |
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| 09:54 | <znoteer> | Sqrt{not}: I guess because I was going with what (I thought) I already knew rather than having to figure out how to set up rsync to listen on the remote |
| 09:55 | <imMute> | znoteer: that might be true, but if sshfs logged in to the remote machine with a user on that machine that can't read a file, there's nothing sshfs can do about it - the file can't be read. |
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| 09:55 | <duclicsic> | it would be a tremendous security issue if you could just change your local UID to read files of that user on a remote system without otherwise having permission |
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| 09:57 | <duclicsic> | for all I know it could be an option with ssh, but it certainly wouldn't be enabled by default |
| 09:57 | <Sqrt{not}> | znoteer, I don't think you want rsync to "listen" on the remote, I suggest _running_ the rsync program on the remote |
| 09:58 | <azeem> | it just wouldn't work; ssh doesn't have more than a shell either, regular Posix uid permissions apply |
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| 10:05 | <znoteer> | imMute: the user on the remote machine that sshfs connected as has sudo powers to read root files as does the user on the local machine that tried to use sudo rsync |
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| 10:08 | <znoteer> | duclicsic: but that's not (as I understand it) what I'm trying to do. I didn't change any uid's the remote and local user both have sudo to root priviledges |
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| 10:08 | <imMute> | znoteer: that might be true, but sshfs likely isn't programmed to try to use sudo to read files. |
| 10:09 | <znoteer> | Sqrt{not}: I may have got the terminology wrong, but I understand your intention, and I think learning hwo to use rsync without sshfs might be simpler than continbuing my current route |
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| 10:10 | <azeem> | znoteer: I don't think I've ever used sshfs except via nautilus or so, but how is it supposed to know it should run commands via sudo remotely? |
| 10:11 | <duclicsic> | you can apparently give sshfs a custom sftp_server option which runs the remote process with sudo |
| 10:11 | <duclicsic> | but if you have to enter your password I'm not sure how that would work |
| 10:12 | <azeem> | yeah |
| 10:12 | <duclicsic> | if you have administrative access to the machine you could at least temporarily enable NOPASSWD for sudo access to sftp-server |
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| 10:19 | <znoteer> | azeem: imMute: There's something I don't understand about my setup, then. if I do ls -lhn $HOME/mnt/etc I see files like sudoers listed as belonging to user number 0. There is no indication that that zero is actually the zero (root user) from a different machine. So why would rsync not be able to read it when run as a user than can read files owned by 0? |
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| 10:20 | <imMute> | znoteer: running as root on your local machine has no impact on your permissions on the remote machine. |
| 10:21 | <imMute> | the sshfs process running on the remote machine *is not root*. therefore it doesn't have access to some files. |
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| 10:24 | <znoteer> | hmm, I thought I was going the easy route, but I think I'm just goin' to walk away and lick my wounds, and figure how to use rsync on its own |
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| 10:25 | <znoteer> | imMute: but the remote user running the remote sshfs process (thus owning it) does have sudo as root permissions on the remote machine |
| 10:26 | <znoteer> | so I still don't understand, but that isn't critical :) |
| 10:26 | <imMute> | znoteer: it has access to sudo, but it doesn't necessarily *use* sudo. |
| 10:27 | <imMute> | if it doesn't use sudo (like trying to open the file directly), then it's not gonna have permission |
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| 10:28 | <znoteer> | but the local user that ran rsync locally has the same numerid uid locally as the remote sshfs user on the remote machine |
| 10:28 | <znoteer> | numeric* |
| 10:28 | <imMute> | doesn't matter. the numbers are different "spaces". the local uid 0 is no bearing on the remote uid 0. |
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| 10:32 | * | znoteer thinks maybe he gets it now. Even though the remote fs appears locally sshfs is still between that local mountpoint and the remote fs. The files didn't all of a sudden get copied to the local system. They just show up locally because sshfs is still wedged into the connection |
| 10:32 | <znoteer> | yes? |
| 10:32 | <imMute> | right. sshfs is "proxying" those files. they're not really there on the local system. |
| 10:33 | <imMute> | when you read a file on that mountpoint, the kernel asks sshfs "hey go get this file for me". and the sshfs on the remote machine then tries to read the file and send it back |
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| 10:35 | <znoteer> | OK, thanks for your patience everyone (azeem, Sqrt{not}, imMute, duclicsic). I barked up the wrong tree. I'm going to reread that wonderful rsync man page some more |
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| 11:01 | <znoteer> | so, I just tried "rsync -PaiHAEX --noatime --numeric-ids bob@fw:/etc $HOME/backups/fw" and I still get permission denied on only-root-readable files. |
| 11:01 | <imMute> | znoteer: right because bob still doesn't have permission to read those files. |
| 11:01 | <znoteer> | Sqrt{not}: you were talking about what the man page calls "connecting to an rsync daemon"? |
| 11:02 | <znoteer> | damn, you're right |
| 11:02 | <znoteer> | not surprisingly |
| 11:02 | <znoteer> | so how am I supposed to backup files that bob doesN't have permission to read? |
| 11:03 | <znoteer> | I don't want to ssh as root |
| 11:03 | <znoteer> | do I? |
| 11:03 | <imMute> | run rsync on the "fw" node instead and use sudo to start it, so it'll have the necessary permissions to read the files. |
| 11:04 | <znoteer> | imMute: run rsync in daemon mode on the fw? |
| 11:04 | <imMute> | and no, root should never be able to log in through SSH, IMO. |
| 11:04 | <imMute> | znoteer: that's another option |
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| 11:04 | <imMute> | znoteer: in your pasted command, you're "pulling" the files from a remote server. rsync can also "push" files to a remote server. |
| 11:05 | <imMute> | so, on the fw node, you can do something like "sudo rsync -PaiHAEX --noatime --numeric-ids /etc user@otherhost:/home/user/backups/fw" |
| 11:05 | <znoteer> | ah, THAT's what Sqrt{not} meant! |
| 11:07 | <znoteer> | so, I'm going to have to setup ssh keys in the opposite directions then, right? Currently, I can connect from my laptop to other machines on the lan, but not from other machines to anywhere else. So, I'll have to set up ssh to work in the other direction then, right? |
| 11:09 | <imMute> | yeah. you don't necessarily need SSH keys for that. I believe rsync will ask you for login credentials for the server's it logs in to |
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| 11:31 | <znoteer> | I installed openssh-server on the laptop and ran rsync on the remote with sudo. I got asked for the password of the user on the remote (because of sudo), then asked the passwd for the user on the laptop, which I entered, but since hitting enter, the connection has hung. What am I getting wrong this time? |
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| 11:38 | <znoteer> | if I control-c to get out of that, I get rsync error: unexplained error (code 130) at rsync.c(644) [sender=3.1.2] |
| 11:43 | <imMute> | is it hung or is it actually transferring files? |
| 11:43 | <sney> | or calculating checksums, which rsync takes a bunch of time to do |
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| 11:47 | <znoteer> | I used -PaiHAEX --noatime --numeric-ids. The -i should give me progress I think, and I never used -c, so it shouldn't be doing any checksumming. Plus, the bulk of the files where able to be transferred with my sshfs attempt. There are maybe 20 30 files left to transfer (from etc). Shouldn't tak too long |
| 11:48 | <znoteer> | take* |
| 11:49 | <imMute> | was there any network or disk IO or CPU used by the rsync processes on either system while it was "hung" ? |
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| 11:50 | <znoteer> | I never checked |
| 11:50 | <znoteer> | but.. |
| 11:52 | <znoteer> | I just logged out of the remote, ssh'd back in, and reran the rsynce command. It's been a few minutes so I had to add my passwd for sudo again, then for my local password, and this time the command silently completed, ie., gave me back my command prompt, but nothing got copied |
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| 11:55 | <znoteer> | eg, the sudoers file never got rsync'd |
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| 11:56 | <anony> | hi |
| 11:56 | <imMute> | znoteer: does the file not exist on the destination or is it the wrong data? |
| 11:56 | <znoteer> | it doesn't exist in the destination |
| 11:57 | <anony> | queis this debian server? |
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| 11:57 | <anony> | is this debian server |
| 11:57 | <grove> | It's the -P option to rsync that gives progress, not -i, and -c only affects that one invocation of rsync, it doesn't affect what will happen on future runs |
| 11:58 | <sney> | anony: yes |
| 11:58 | <znoteer> | none of the root-readable-only files got transfered |
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| 11:59 | <znoteer> | well -i maybe doesn't exactly show progress, but it itemizes changes and none were itemized |
| 11:59 | <imMute> | znoteer: maybe it couldn't recreate the file permissions on the destination (because it isn't root on the dest). I would expect an error message in that case though. what was the return code? |
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| 12:00 | <znoteer> | what's return code again $# ? |
| 12:00 | <imMute> | $? |
| 12:00 | <znoteer> | 0 |
| 12:01 | * | znoteer ran the rsync command again to make sure he got the return code of the right command) |
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| 14:02 | <ref> | hello.. I'm having some issues with my new graphics card, the OpenGL renderer is set to llvmpipe which makes everything horribly slow |
| 14:02 | <sney> | what gpu, what debian version, what have you tried already? |
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| 14:05 | <ref> | AMD 5600.. amdgpu-driver.. debian 10/Buster.. at first, the card didn't show up properly with lspci, it just showed a pci id there.. so I updated the kernel to 5.9 from backports.. and then it was detected.. however, the firmware wasn't there.. so I added that from the github repository.. rebuilt initramfs.. |
| 14:06 | <ref> | to be honest, it was years ago since I fiddled with this so I'm out on thin ice as it is |
| 14:06 | <sney> | the 5600, that's extremely brand new right? |
| 14:07 | <ref> | it's about a year old.. but it's new enough that you have to have an updated kernel and such |
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| 14:08 | <sney> | ok. please pastebin your xorg log and anything relevant from dmesg/journalctl |
| 14:08 | <sney> | !paste |
| 14:08 | <dpkg> | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: https://paste.debian.net | pics/screenshots: https://imgbb.com/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): https://filebin.net or https://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <termbin>. |
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| 14:13 | <ref> | https://pastebin.com/gPZSzDWm |
| 14:14 | <ref> | there's almost no errors |
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| 14:20 | <sney> | amdgpu seems to be ok. are you missing libglx-mesa0? |
| 14:21 | <ref> | no.. says it's installed |
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| 14:22 | <ref> | frustrating, since I read an article on phoronix - published almost a year ago and they had zero problems, it worked out of the box.. and I've spent 2 days and all I get is llvmpipe.. |
| 14:23 | <sney> | yes, a 1-year-old gpu should be easy to get working |
| 14:23 | <sney> | FFR the firmware is packaged in debian as firmware-amd-graphics. but whatever you found on github seems to be loading ok |
| 14:24 | <sney> | you could try upgrading to bullseye. you'll get a newer xorg, and the freeze starts in a couple days so this is really the safest time to use debian testing. |
| 14:25 | <ref> | that package IS installed, but it lacked the particular firmware for this card.. so I went to the source at git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git and checked that out |
| 14:25 | <sney> | also make sure you have recommends enabled, some people think turning them off will reduce "bloat" but it really just breaks things in unpredictable ways |
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| 14:27 | <ref> | you wouldn't happen to have an howto for that? I assume we're talking apt-configuration? |
| 14:28 | <sney> | they're enabled by default, so it would be something that you disabled yourself. check in /etc/apt/apt.conf or apt.conf.d/, the line item is something like APT::Install-Recommends=no |
| 14:29 | <ref> | thank you - haven't disabled anything |
| 14:34 | <blast007> | ref: note that the buster-backports version of firmware-amd-graphics *does* include the firmware for your card, so maybe you need to enable backports and use the backports kernel and firmware |
| 14:35 | <sney> | they're already on the bpo kernel, and the firmware from kernel.org is what debian distributes anyway |
| 14:35 | <ref> | perhaps I forgot to update that package? I don't remember anymore. |
| 14:36 | <ref> | I just noted that it said file missing in dmesg |
| 14:37 | <sney> | I don't see that in your paste |
| 14:37 | <ref> | and I do use the backports kernel, 5.9 |
| 14:37 | <ref> | no, I fixed it some hours ago |
| 14:38 | <ref> | Jan 8 18:52:17 proxima kernel: [ 1.097567] amdgpu 0000:08:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware amdgpu/navi10_sos.bin |
| 14:38 | <blast007> | okay |
| 14:38 | <ref> | duh.. wrong line. meant to paste the one with the error |
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| 14:40 | <sney> | also, kernel modules have a big list of compatible firmware blobs, and not every driver needs every supported blob. my iwlwifi device complains about a missing bin on every boot but it works 100% with the ones that I do have. |
| 14:42 | <ref> | well for this, it needed it.. without that firmware, it wouldn't create the needed /dev entries I believe.. X ended up using some generic driver, though there's little difference regarding performance for opengl stuff |
| 14:43 | <ref> | in a week, I've gone from debian 9, to 10.. and I assume bullseye will be 11? |
| 14:43 | <sney> | yep |
| 14:43 | <sney> | dpkg: buster->bullseye |
| 14:43 | <dpkg> | In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "buster" to "bullseye", remove lines like buster-backports, debian-multimedia <dmo>, and other 3rd party repos as they are known to cause issues then do: apt update && apt upgrade && apt full-upgrade. Note that testing is a <moving target> and may be buggy, and read the sid FAQ: https://deb.li/sidfaq |
| 14:43 | <sney> | we are probably ~8 months until the official release |
| 14:44 | <ref> | upgrade is already underway :) |
| 14:44 | <ref> | since I did this yesterday, it was kinda fresh in my memory |
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| 15:30 | <ref> | is it recommended to use apt instead of apt-get/aptitude these days? |
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| 15:32 | <Mister00X> | !apt vs apt-get |
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| 15:33 | <Mister00X> | !apt vs. apt-get |
| 15:33 | <dpkg> | apt is promoted over apt-get for interactive use. It uses fancy colors and has output format differences. It removes the .deb files that it downloads during an install or upgrade. It installs new packages during upgrades. apt-get has a stable command-line interface and is promoted for scripting. |
| 15:34 | <Mister00X> | now it works^^ |
| 15:34 | <ref> | thanks :) |
| 15:36 | <Mister00X> | ref: aptitude is fine though |
| 15:37 | <Mister00X> | just avoid it for dist-upgrades |
| 15:37 | <Mister00X> | the conflict resolver is not that good for dist-upgrades from what I've read |
| 15:38 | <sney> | aptitude isn't installed by default on debian systems anymore, but it's still a handy tool for untangling dependency issues. plus I've heard you can use the curses ui to automate stuff too |
| 15:39 | <sney> | it was recommended for full-upgrades in the squeeze era. I'm not sure what changed that, except it's a bigger program and could be slow on common hardware in ~2010 |
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| 15:41 | <ref> | yeah, I noticed.. I ran into the conflict resolver timeout.. so I doubled it and I still ran into it.. while apt just churned away.. perhaps 99% of the work was done by aptitude, or apt is just lightning fast.. not sure which is correct. |
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| 15:43 | <Mister00X> | ref: aptitude is great for "single" conflicts but when it comes to greater upgrades it seems to be a bit unconvienent, especialy when a large number of packages are removed |
| 15:44 | <Mister00X> | just my opinion |
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| 15:53 | <ref> | thanks for your time.. now I'm gonna see if the upgrade works. |
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| 15:55 | <ref> | sney : it worked.. thanks for the suggestion :) |
| 15:55 | <sney> | np |
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| 15:59 | <znoteer> | I'm having a new problem with rsync. To copy files from a remote machine to my laptop I ran on the remote machine, the command "sudo rsync -PaHAEX --noatime --numeric-ids /etc alice@laptop:/home/alice/backup_stretch-to-buster". I thought the -a switch was supposed to preserve owner and group, but files that were user:group root:root or root:somesysgroup all got owned by alice:alice on the |
| 15:59 | <znoteer> | laptop. Anyone know what I've done wrong? |
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| 16:00 | <sarnold> | znoteer: you're logging in as alice. alice does not have the ability to give away files; only root can change file owners |
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| 16:01 | <znoteer> | sarnold: then what are -o and -g (included by -a) for? |
| 16:01 | <sarnold> | (once upon a time, some unix systems let users give away files. this was found to be a bad idea, because this let people bypass their own quota: they'd mkdir ~/foo ; chmod 700 ~/foo ; make_big_file > ~/foo/huge_file ; chmod 666 ~/foo/huge_file ; chmod victim ~/foo/huge_file |
| 16:02 | <znoteer> | hmm |
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| 16:02 | <sarnold> | znoteer: hmm, now that I'm re-reading your command, I realize that you're missing either the source or the destination :) |
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| 16:02 | <sarnold> | znoteer: so I saw alice@foo:/... as the destination.. now it just kinda looksl ike a broken command, hehe |
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| 16:03 | <znoteer> | sarnold: /etc is the source /home/alice/backup_stretch-to-buster is the destination |
| 16:04 | <sarnold> | znoteer: log in as root then? |
| 16:05 | <znoteer> | do you mean become root on the remote before running rsync, or use root@foo: for the destination? |
| 16:05 | <znoteer> | both seem bad ideas to me |
| 16:05 | <znoteer> | I thought one was supposed to avoid logging in as root, especialy remotely |
| 16:06 | <znoteer> | especially* |
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| 16:07 | <znoteer> | what's the point of the -o and -g switches if they don't preserve owner and group? |
| 16:08 | <znoteer> | sarnold: ^^ |
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| 16:11 | <sney> | presumably they try to, but they can't override what the user alice is able to do |
| 16:11 | <sarnold> | znoteer: the -o and -g etc switches tell the rsync command on the sending side to send those things with the remote peer; even though you're telling rsync how to log in on the remote side, it doesn't actually know that it won't be able to honour the owner and group file changes until the remote end tries, and fails |
| 16:11 | <sarnold> | znoteer: maybe it would have been kinder of the rsync devs to outright fail the connection on the first error |
| 16:12 | <jhutchins> | znoteer: Most secure environments don't allow connection as root, and some don't allow su, but most will support sudo -i |
| 16:12 | <znoteer> | sarnold: so is there some recommended way to preserve owner:group when rsync'ing files from one box to another? |
| 16:12 | <jhutchins> | znoteer: -a |
| 16:13 | <znoteer> | jhutchins: that's what I used and it didn't work |
| 16:13 | <jhutchins> | znoteer: Or tar. |
| 16:13 | <sney> | tar is what I use for stuff like this |
| 16:13 | <jhutchins> | znoteer: Hm. May require root after all. |
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| 16:14 | <znoteer> | sney you make a tar ball then transfer that to the remote machine? |
| 16:14 | <sney> | yep, or to removable storage |
| 16:15 | <jhutchins> | znoteer: yeah, that should work, then manipulate the tarbal with sudo. |
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| 16:15 | <logantischler0> | I am using an Acer Chromebook C720, which I dual-booted Debian buster onto, using crouton. I have a TI-Nspire CX II CAS, which I am trying to dual-boot Debian onto with the help of the tutorial I mentioned. |
| 16:15 | <logantischler0> | Steps 1 through 5 work fine for me, but when I do ```sudo chroot /mnt``` in step 6, I get an error: |
| 16:15 | <logantischler0> | ``` |
| 16:15 | <logantischler0> | chroot: failed to run command '/bin/bash': Exec format error |
| 16:15 | <znoteer> | I thought rsync was supposed to do just this sort of thing... |
| 16:15 | <logantischler0> | ``` |
| 16:15 | <logantischler0> | I read here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/14280/during-a-chroot-attempt-i-got-this-error-chroot-failed-to-run-command-bin But I have no idea where to go from there. |
| 16:15 | <logantischler0> | Should I have dual-booted a 32-bit version of Debian buster, rather than the 64-bit version I am running currently? |
| 16:15 | <sney> | tar preserves permissions and symlinks etc by default, so you don't need alphabet soup either. just tar cf file.tar contents contents contents :) |
| 16:15 | <logantischler0> | Any help is greatly appreciated. |
| 16:16 | <sarnold> | znoteer: it does, when you run it with appropriate privileges :) |
| 16:16 | <sney> | logantischler0: please don't spam the channel. |
| 16:16 | <logantischler0> | how do i msg bot |
| 16:16 | <sarnold> | logantischler0: there's no point in markdown here, either, everybody uses monospaced fonts on irc already :) |
| 16:16 | <logantischler0> | how do i msg bot |
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| 16:16 | <sney> | !msg the bot |
| 16:16 | <dpkg> | Please have conversations with the bots in a private message as much as possible. Instead of using "!topic" or "!tell <your nick> about <topic>" in the channel, you can just "/msg dpkg topic". See <bot help> and http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn more and browse my factoids on-line at http://ircbots.debian.net/ . Also ask me about <judd>, which is another bot and window into the Ultimate Debian Database. |
| 16:16 | <sarnold> | logantischler0: /msg botname |
| 16:17 | <logantischler0> | how do i know whos a bot and who isnt |
| 16:18 | <grzesiek11> | you don't |
| 16:18 | <logantischler0> | wut |
| 16:18 | <logantischler0> | how do i msg a bot then w/o nick |
| 16:18 | <petn-randall> | logantischler0: only judd and dpkg are official bots in here. |
| 16:18 | <logantischler0> | cool thx |
| 16:19 | <znoteer> | sarnold: "it does, when run with appropriate priviledges" can you share how to do that? I thought "sudo rsync..." gave it the appropriate permissions, but I guess not on the destination side, so how do I get them on the destination side? |
| 16:21 | <sarnold> | znoteer: log in as root |
| 16:21 | <znoteer> | you mean instead of sudo? |
| 16:22 | <znoteer> | # rsync... instead of $ sudo rsync... |
| 16:23 | <znoteer> | or do you mean to root@foo:dir |
| 16:23 | <jhutchins> | sudo -i |
| 16:23 | <jhutchins> | ssh target; sudo -i |
| 16:23 | <petn-randall> | znoteer: What is your full rsync command? if you ssh on one side, and need root there, you need to use root permission for login. |
| 16:23 | <sarnold> | znoteer: root@foo:dir, too |
| 16:23 | <jhutchins> | We don't actually know what your configuration or purpose are. |
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| 16:27 | <znoteer> | petn-randall: jhutchins: explained above, but here goes again because it's been awhile. copy some files from remote machine "fw" to local machine "laptop" to prepare to an upgrade to Buster. I've ssh'd into fw and issued the command "sudo rsync -PaHAEX --noatime --numeric-ids /etc alice@laptop:/home/alice/backupdir/" |
| 16:28 | <sarnold> | jhutchins: much of the command was pasted earlier, sudo rsync -PaHAEX --noatime --numeric-ids /etc alice@laptop:/home/alice/backup_stretch-to-buster" -- "/etc is the source /home/alice/backup_stretch-to-buster" |
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| 16:28 | <znoteer> | but that didn't preserve owner:group info in alice's dir |
| 16:28 | <znoteer> | I am now going to try with sudo -i as jhutchins suggested |
| 16:29 | <sarnold> | don't forget to replace alice@ with root@ |
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| 16:32 | <petn-randall> | znoteer: you need to use root@laptop then, and the command is otherwise fine. Another option is to just run `tar -zcvf etc.tar.gz /etc/` and copy the tarball over. That way your permissions are preserved without you having to fiddle around with copy permissions. |
| 16:33 | <jhutchins> | Yeah, for something like that, if root ssh is blocked, I would definitely use tar. |
| 16:34 | <jhutchins> | Coming from an MS DOS background, I'm pretty used to having a root console full time. |
| 16:34 | <znoteer> | anything I've read on securing systems and networks says to avoid letting people ssh in a box as root. Using root@laptop seems to go against that |
| 16:34 | <jhutchins> | (I was also a BOFH on some maiinframes.) |
| 16:34 | <jhutchins> | znoteer: As I said before, ssh as user, then become root with either su - or sudo -i |
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| 16:35 | <znoteer> | jhutchins: I tried using sudo -i |
| 16:35 | <jhutchins> | znoteer: I definitely recommend against using sudo with bash scripts. My results were unpredictable and unfortunate. |
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| 16:35 | <znoteer> | not scripting |
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| 16:36 | <jhutchins> | Just a side note. |
| 16:36 | <jhutchins> | What happened with sudo -i? |
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| 16:39 | <znoteer> | jhutchins: got a bunch of errors like 'rsync: mkstemp "/home/alice/backupdir/etc/.sudoer.q3EtqL" failed: Permission denied (13)' sudoers is readable by root only |
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| 16:40 | <znoteer> | oh wait, I didn't become root by running sudo -i and then run the command rsync. I ran sudo -i rsync... |
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| 16:41 | <znoteer> | a couple of years ago, I would have just used tar or cpio, but I thought rsync was made for this kind of thing |
| 16:42 | <sney> | broadly, it is, but your remote alice@ user can only create files owned by herself, and rsync can't override that |
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| 16:44 | <Echoz> | bob, on the other hand |
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| 16:51 | <jhutchins> | znoteer: Ah, yes. Not the ; in the commandas I suggested it. That indicates sequential commands (although it can be used as a sequencer in a one-line |
| 16:51 | <jhutchins> | note. |
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| 16:53 | <petn-randall> | jhutchins: how is `sudo -i` supposed to work when rsync'ing on a remote side? |
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| 16:56 | <jhutchins> | It's not. |
| 16:57 | <jhutchins> | rsync requires the ability to ssh as root. |
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| 16:57 | <jhutchins> | You CAN sometimes ssh as root with a key as opposed to a password. We don't know much about this guy's environment except "doesn't work". |
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| 16:58 | <jhutchins> | What I usually did on the secure sites I worked on was tar, rsync as user, ssh, sudo -i, move tarball, un-tar. |
| 16:59 | <jhutchins> | Since this doesn't appear to be a public network with possible hostiles having access, allowing root ssh at least with keys seems reasonable. |
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| 17:22 | <Sqrt{not}> | znoteer, now I see that you are just trying to make a backup copy of your /etc/ directory, I second the suggestion to just use tar, especially if you are already familiar with it from the old days ;) |
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| 17:25 | <srudas> | como iniciar session automaticamente en debian |
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| 17:25 | <sney> | !es |
| 17:25 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat. - https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/ |
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| 17:46 | <jhutchins> | znoteer: Also, you should probably not be booted to that copy of the OS when you do this. /etc is mostly static configs, but it can have some dynamic content as well. That will get you permissions denied even as root. |
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| 18:33 | <encryptedsnowstorm> | hello? |
| 18:33 | <sney> | hi |
| 18:33 | <encryptedsnowstorm> | So I was trying to install debian |
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| 18:34 | <encryptedsnowstorm> | But uh, once I get past the first screen, where it asks me how to install, the graphics are all garbled |
| 18:34 | <encryptedsnowstorm> | And I can't figure out why |
| 18:34 | <petn-randall> | encryptedsnowstorm: Which installation image are you using? |
| 18:35 | <sney> | you might be missing video firmware, or just use the 'install' option instead of 'graphical install' |
| 18:35 | <encryptedsnowstorm> | firmware-10.7.0-amd64-netinst |
| 18:35 | <encryptedsnowstorm> | it's "nonfree drivers" version I think |
| 18:35 | <encryptedsnowstorm> | I have the AMD Vega 56 |
| 18:35 | <petn-randall> | I'd try the text install, graphics might not work out of the box during installation. |
| 18:36 | <encryptedsnowstorm> | I think I tried that, but Ill try again... |
| 18:36 | <encryptedsnowstorm> | one sec |
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| 18:40 | <encryptedsnowstorm> | hey im back |
| 18:41 | <encryptedsnowstorm> | yeah it's still garbled. the colors are different (looks like bios colors) but the screen is still grabled the same way |
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| 18:41 | <encryptedsnowstorm> | I don't get it |
| 18:42 | <encryptedsnowstorm> | It's not the iso, I've tried reflashing, from different pcs, or different isos |
| 18:42 | <encryptedsnowstorm> | it seems to be a graphics iso, but it still happens in the non-graphical install |
| 18:42 | <encryptedsnowstorm> | graphics issue* |
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| 18:43 | <encryptedsnowstorm> | please someone help >.< |
| 18:43 | <encryptedsnowstorm> | I just want to install debian on this pc |
| 18:43 | <sney> | you said it, it's a weird issue. this isn't a drive thru where everyone knows every answer |
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| 18:44 | <sney> | go into your system's efi menu and see if there are any settings about video, or specific OS selection, etc. try to make it as basic as possible and then try the install again |
| 18:44 | <encryptedsnowstorm> | maybe I should plug my ssd into my bros pc and install it (if it works), then put the ssd back in my pc lol |
| 18:45 | <encryptedsnowstorm> | I'm on Mint right now |
| 18:45 | <sarnold> | encryptedsnowstorm: once upon a time adding or removing 'nomodeset' to the kernel command line helped corruption.. |
| 18:45 | <sney> | sure, linux doesn't mind being moved from machine to machine |
| 18:46 | <encryptedsnowstorm> | sarnold I have zero idea how to do that |
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| 18:46 | <sarnold> | hopefully it's quicker to try it out than commandeering your brother's machine for a bit :) but that feels possible, hehe |
| 18:47 | <sarnold> | I've not seen the debian installer in ages; there's probably a grub menu at boot with a few choices .. and there's probably a way to edit the commandline at that menu, e or something |
| 18:47 | <encryptedsnowstorm> | oh yeah that |
| 18:47 | <encryptedsnowstorm> | menu |
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| 18:48 | <encryptedsnowstorm> | the first menu that pops up when I boot from usb works, but doing *any* of the install options, well it ""works"" but like I said the graphics are scrambled |
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| 18:50 | <sney> | in that menu there should be an option to edit boot options... I'm going to boot the installer in a vm |
| 18:51 | <sarnold> | woot, thanks sney :) |
| 18:51 | <sney> | hmm, in bios mode there isn't a way to change boot options that I can see |
| 18:52 | <sarnold> | hmm, really? I've got a vague memory of f1 through f5 showing help screens that described different options that could be set |
| 18:52 | <sarnold> | but like I said, it's been a while |
| 18:54 | <sney> | aha! |
| 18:55 | <sney> | select the 'help' option, you get those F keys, and then you can enter the options at the bottom. so e.g. type 'install nomodeset' |
| 18:56 | <sney> | encryptedsnowstorm: ^ |
| 18:57 | <sarnold> | sweeeeet! |
| 18:57 | <sarnold> | thanks sney |
| 18:57 | <sney> | np |
| 18:57 | <sarnold> | this is of cours ejust a wild guess :( but I know it helped people in the past |
| 18:58 | <sney> | vega 56 is from 2017, which means it should have been well supported by the time buster was frozen |
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| 18:59 | <sney> | though the radeon family stuff has always been a little funny |
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| 19:03 | <encryptedsnowstorm> | okay imma try that |
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| 19:07 | <encrypte2snowstorm> | nope |
| 19:08 | <encrypte2snowstorm> | so i select "help" |
| 19:08 | <encrypte2snowstorm> | which brings me to a terminal |
| 19:08 | <encrypte2snowstorm> | I type "install nomodeset" |
| 19:08 | <encrypte2snowstorm> | and it takes me to the menu where it's all garbled again |
| 19:08 | <encrypte2snowstorm> | ughhhhhhhhhhhhh |
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| 19:10 | <Sqrt{not}> | encrypte2snowstorm, when you wrote the installer image, what command did you use? |
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| 19:11 | <encrypte2snowstorm> | i used balena etcher |
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| 19:17 | <Sqrt{not}> | encrypte2snowstorm, I'm not familiar with that one. did you use it in mint, or some other OS? |
| 19:17 | <encrypte2snowstorm> | mint |
| 19:17 | <encrypte2snowstorm> | its like, the most popular usb flashing tool |
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| 19:18 | <sney> | some tools mangle the debian installer, but I don't think etcher is one of them. |
| 19:20 | <Sqrt{not}> | !etcher |
| 19:20 | <dpkg> | Etcher is not a reliable way to copy Debian images for installation. Instead, use cp or dd for linux or win32diskimager for Windows. https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/ch04s03.en.html |
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| 19:21 | <encrypte2snowstorm> | dpkg I'm on Linux Mint |
| 19:21 | <dpkg> | encrypte2snowstorm: I give up, what is it? |
| 19:21 | <Sqrt{not}> | encrypte2snowstorm, try just using dd or cp cp /path/to/debian.iso /dev/sdc or whatever is your USB drive /dev/sdc not /dev/sdc1 |
| 19:22 | <Sqrt{not}> | encrypte2snowstorm, dpkg is a bot |
| 19:22 | <Sqrt{not}> | (worth a try, just to see if you get the same result or something different, no?) |
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| 19:23 | <Sqrt{not}> | make sure the stick is unmounted, or its partitions are unmounted |
| 19:24 | <encrypte2snowstorm> | uh |
| 19:24 | <Sqrt{not}> | encrypte2snowstorm, BTW, that install guide dpkg gave a link to, is full of good info |
| 19:25 | <encrypte2snowstorm> | it looks pretty complicated >.< |
| 19:25 | <Sqrt{not}> | cp /path/to/debian.iso /dev/sdc |
| 19:25 | <Sqrt{not}> | one unix command |
| 19:29 | <encrypte2snowstorm> | okay so it would be 'cp c:/home/encrypte2snowstorm/desktop/debian.iso /dev/sdc'? |
| 19:30 | <Sqrt{not}> | assuming the USB thing is on /dev/sdc (although I'm not sure if "cp" is a windows/dos command? is that c:/home thing mint?) |
| 19:31 | <encrypte2snowstorm> | does linux not do C:/ |
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| 19:31 | <Sqrt{not}> | not that I remember. if you are on windows, there is other advice |
| 19:31 | <encrypte2snowstorm> | No im on minttt |
| 19:32 | <sney> | there is no c: on linux, it would just be /home/encry... |
| 19:32 | <encrypte2snowstorm> | okay |
| 19:32 | <encrypte2snowstorm> | and how do I know what file path to put for the usb |
| 19:33 | <encrypte2snowstorm> | '/media/encrypte2snowstorm/Debian 10.7.0 amd64 n' ? |
| 19:33 | <encrypte2snowstorm> | thats what the drive is currently named |
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| 19:35 | <sney> | eject/unmount it, unplug it and plug it back in, then open a terminal and do 'dmesg |tail' |
| 19:36 | <sney> | youll see some messages about the new device that was just connected. |
| 19:37 | <sney> | if you see 'sdc' then that means the target device is /dev/sdc like Sqrt{not} said. depending on how many disks you have, it could be sdd, f, g, etc |
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| 19:39 | <encryptedsnowstorm> | Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 |
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| 19:40 | <sney> | different line. somehow I don't have a flash drive on my desk to test this and tell you exactly what to look for, hm |
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| 19:41 | <Sqrt{not}> | try this command: mount | grep Debian |
| 19:43 | <Sqrt{not}> | encryptedsnowstorm, the next line in dmesg after that thing about sd2 should have something like [sdb] |
| 19:43 | <Sqrt{not}> | errr, *thing about sg2* |
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| 19:51 | <Sqrt{not}> | for me the next line in dmesg is this: [199259.665434] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] 62976 512-byte logical blocks: (32.2 MB/30.8 MiB) |
| 19:51 | <Sqrt{not}> | that [sdb] is what we are looking for |
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| 21:20 | <garphyle> | Howdy - I'm a newb, just installed debian 10. su won't accept my password or blank. do I need to reinstall and put in a root pw? |
| 21:20 | <sney> | garphyle: if you didn't set a root password, then your first user has sudo enabled by default |
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| 21:21 | <sney> | so you can 'sudo -i' for the su behavior you expect |
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| 21:21 | <sney> | (the installer explains this in the root password section) |
| 21:22 | <garphyle> | That actually worked, but the docs I was reading, told me to 'su -l' and no password would authenticate. I thought I might have screwed up the install |
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| 21:23 | <garphyle> | sudo echo 'Hello' worked just fine |
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| 21:26 | <sney> | always check the date on your documentation. this has been standard debian practice for a few years, but not forever. anyway, how you become root is up to you, as long as you understand the distinction |
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| 21:27 | <garphyle> | Thank you, sney. Maybe I'm not up to debian. I thought I could deep dive my way though. But if this is my stumbling block, I should probably go back to the shallows. :D |
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| 21:29 | <sney> | nah you seem off to a better start than many |
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| 21:30 | <garphyle> | lol - that was kind, and I will pour over some more docs before I quit. But dang ... wine is tripping me up? you gotta admit ... |
| 21:31 | <sney> | wine is a nuisance even for us oldheads. I pretty much don't use it outside of proton anymore |
| 21:31 | <garphyle> | I was trying to install Warcraft, and Steam |
| 21:32 | <sney> | debian has steam packaged |
| 21:32 | <sney> | ,i steam |
| 21:32 | <judd> | No package named 'steam' was found in buster/amd64. |
| 21:32 | <sney> | ,i steam --arch i386 |
| 21:32 | <judd> | Package steam (non-free/games, optional) in buster/i386: Valve's Steam digital software delivery system. Version: 1.0.0.59-4; Size: 1412.9k; Installed: 4367k; Homepage: http://www.steampowered.com; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/steam |
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| 21:33 | <garphyle> | I searched steam in discover, software and menus |
| 21:34 | <sney> | you have to enable multiarch, it's a 32-bit package. |
| 21:34 | <sney> | run 'dpkg --add-architecture i386' and then apt update, then apt install steam:i386 |
| 21:35 | <garphyle> | thank you |
| 21:36 | <garphyle> | that was one of the commands |
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| 21:40 | <garphyle> | no joy. Unable to locate package |
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| 21:41 | <sney> | are you sure you did 'apt update' between adding i386 and trying to install steam? |
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| 21:42 | <garphyle> | So .. let's say, you were a support engineer. M4 servers, workstations, network support, and you were stretching yourself into learning Linux, and mint went well, and you decided that however painful the begining |
| 21:43 | <garphyle> | Debian was a good path. And a helpful co-worker and friend suggested that the 1st prog you should install and run was wine |
| 21:43 | <garphyle> | He was messing with you? |
| 21:43 | <sney> | depends. wine is useful, and maybe indispensable, if you need some windows-only thing |
| 21:44 | <sney> | it's a tool like anything else. do you need it? decide based on that. |
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| 21:45 | <garphyle> | :/ OK, because of hexchat I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. But finding out everyone has trouble has me a little leary. |
| 21:46 | <garphyle> | Warcraft, elite dangerous, no man's sky, subnautica, etc. No matter what I'll always need windows for my oculus rift |
| 21:47 | <sney> | wine is a compatibility layer for running software intended for a different OS, with no cooperation from that OS's developers. it's hairy by nature. last time I played WoW it worked pretty out of the box on wine, but that was over 10 years ago, so who knows now. |
| 21:47 | <garphyle> | All packages are up to date |
| 21:48 | <sney> | with wine in general, if you follow this https://wiki.winehq.org/Debian and don't ignore the step about libfaudio0 mentioned in the note at the top, it'll install without much trouble. then you just get to fight with it about running stuff. |
| 21:48 | <sney> | yes, with apt, any time you change the sources or configuration (or add an architecture) you have to run apt update, or it won't know about your changes |
| 21:49 | <garphyle> | 'E: Unable to locate package Steam:i386' And I tried steam w/o :i386 |
| 21:49 | <garphyle> | good to learn, thanks |
| 21:50 | <sney> | hmm. can you pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list ? it might be missing something. |
| 21:50 | <sney> | !paste |
| 21:50 | <dpkg> | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: https://paste.debian.net | pics/screenshots: https://imgbb.com/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): https://filebin.net or https://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <termbin>. |
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| 22:46 | -!- | nuc_ is "realname" on #debian |
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| 22:52 | -!- | SomeDamnBody is "you don't know" on #debian |
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| 22:53 | -!- | jayjo- is "ZNC - https://znc.in" on #debian #virt #qemu |
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| 23:03 | -!- | SomeDamnBody [~SomeDamnB@184-170-164-130.lfytina1.metronetinc.net] has left #debian [Leaving] |
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| 23:23 | -!- | zebrag is "inkbottle" on #oftc #debian-offtopic #debian-kde #debian-next #debian #kernelnewbies |
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| 23:30 | -!- | hele is "hele" on #debian-next #debian |
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| 23:35 | -!- | FH_thecat is "FH_thecat" on #virt #debian |
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| 23:39 | -!- | pavlushka is "Pavel Sayekat" on #debian #oftc |
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| 23:46 | -!- | thelastjedi is "thelastjedi,,," on #debian |
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| 23:51 | -!- | dogsleg is "Lev Lamberov" on #debian-social #debian-l10n-russian #debian-devel-changes #debian-meeting #debian-haskell #debian-i18n #debian |
| --- | Log | closed Sat Jan 09 00:00:47 2021 |