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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-01-08

---Logopened Fri Jan 08 00:00:45 2021
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04:35<yedida>hi, my laptop fails to boot: a black screen with a blinking cursor immediately after grub's messages of loading kernel and initramfs.
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04:37<yedida>I'm not sure I see any message from the kernel. I tried replacing "quiet" in the grub command line with "debug" and occasionally also "verbose=y earlyprintk=vga", but I still see the same.
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04:42<yedida>System is Debian Testing. It has kernel 5.9.0-5-amd64 . 5.9.0-4-amd64 had the same issue.
04:43<yedida>I am able to mount the partition from a live USB stick, so it's not likely a disk issue.
04:45<jm_>try #debian-next if you're not using stable
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04:47<Ulrar>Hi everyone, quick question. I have a headless server on which I'm doing some video encoding, and I'm trying to get hardware accel working. It's just an intel integrated video, on other distro I get a /dev/dri/render... but on buster the dri folder isn't there at all. I've tried installing mesa and linux-firmware but no change. Am I missing something ?
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04:49<Ulrar>One thing I've noted is even with linux-firmware installed the bluetooth firmware doesn't seem to be added to the initramfs. I'm wondering if maybe there's something wrong with initramfs-update and it might be omitting more than just the bluetooth firmware, if anything is needed at that stage for vaapi
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05:42<Ulrar>Nevermind, just figured it out. Needed the kernel from the backports, this is fairly new hardware
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05:48<moritz_>test
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05:49<bremner>dpkg: tell moritz_ about ask
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05:55<moritz_>Can you read my messages ?
05:55<moritz_>I am new to IRC
05:55<Geolykt>yes, ofc
05:55<moritz_>thank you
05:56<Geolykt>Would be a stupid system if it wouldn't work
05:57<moritz_>Yes, thats right. I joind via a CLI client, so it is a bit difficult for newbies :D
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05:58<moritz_>Is there a way that no one can see my IP-Pool?
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06:06<grove>moritz_: What IP-Pool? We can see that you've connected from 88.70.132.255
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08:56<abrotman>twb: que?
08:57<abrotman>twb: ignore, I see
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09:42<znoteer>I mounted the / of a remote machine on $HOME/mnt on my laptop using sshfs. I want to backup certain things on the remote before upgrading to stable. Files that are readable only by root, or maybe also by some system group, give a Permission denied error when I try "sudo rsync -PaHAEX --noatime --numeric-ids $HOME/mnt/etc <backup-dir-on-laptop>". I was expecting, given that I used sudo, that
09:42<znoteer>I'd be able to read everything in $HOME/mnt. Is there some way around this? I tried using -o allow_user to sshfs and also with -o allow_root but neither got around this.
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09:44<azeem>znoteer: hrm, you used sudo for rsync, but how should sshfs get elevate access on the remote side? Or is that logging in as root?
09:48<znoteer>azeem: I thought ids got mapped with sshfs, so a file readable only by root on the remote should be as accesible as any file readable only by root on the local machine. No?
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09:50<azeem>znoteer: maybe, but if the credentials you use for sshfs do not allow to read those files remotely, what is sshfs gonna do about it?
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09:52<Sqrt{not}>znoteer, rsync is already intended to to backups from one machine to another. why don't you run rsync on the remote, as root, and backup to your target laptop without involving sshfs in it at all?
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09:53<znoteer>azeem: if ids are mapped as I understood (understand, still, I guess) once sshfs mounts the remote it should be impossible to distinguish between a file owned by a remote uid 0 and a local uid 0
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09:54<znoteer>Sqrt{not}: I guess because I was going with what (I thought) I already knew rather than having to figure out how to set up rsync to listen on the remote
09:55<imMute>znoteer: that might be true, but if sshfs logged in to the remote machine with a user on that machine that can't read a file, there's nothing sshfs can do about it - the file can't be read.
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09:55<duclicsic>it would be a tremendous security issue if you could just change your local UID to read files of that user on a remote system without otherwise having permission
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09:57<duclicsic>for all I know it could be an option with ssh, but it certainly wouldn't be enabled by default
09:57<Sqrt{not}>znoteer, I don't think you want rsync to "listen" on the remote, I suggest _running_ the rsync program on the remote
09:58<azeem>it just wouldn't work; ssh doesn't have more than a shell either, regular Posix uid permissions apply
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10:05<znoteer>imMute: the user on the remote machine that sshfs connected as has sudo powers to read root files as does the user on the local machine that tried to use sudo rsync
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10:08<znoteer>duclicsic: but that's not (as I understand it) what I'm trying to do. I didn't change any uid's the remote and local user both have sudo to root priviledges
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10:08<imMute>znoteer: that might be true, but sshfs likely isn't programmed to try to use sudo to read files.
10:09<znoteer>Sqrt{not}: I may have got the terminology wrong, but I understand your intention, and I think learning hwo to use rsync without sshfs might be simpler than continbuing my current route
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10:10<azeem>znoteer: I don't think I've ever used sshfs except via nautilus or so, but how is it supposed to know it should run commands via sudo remotely?
10:11<duclicsic>you can apparently give sshfs a custom sftp_server option which runs the remote process with sudo
10:11<duclicsic>but if you have to enter your password I'm not sure how that would work
10:12<azeem>yeah
10:12<duclicsic>if you have administrative access to the machine you could at least temporarily enable NOPASSWD for sudo access to sftp-server
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10:19<znoteer>azeem: imMute: There's something I don't understand about my setup, then. if I do ls -lhn $HOME/mnt/etc I see files like sudoers listed as belonging to user number 0. There is no indication that that zero is actually the zero (root user) from a different machine. So why would rsync not be able to read it when run as a user than can read files owned by 0?
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10:20<imMute>znoteer: running as root on your local machine has no impact on your permissions on the remote machine.
10:21<imMute>the sshfs process running on the remote machine *is not root*. therefore it doesn't have access to some files.
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10:24<znoteer>hmm, I thought I was going the easy route, but I think I'm just goin' to walk away and lick my wounds, and figure how to use rsync on its own
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10:25<znoteer>imMute: but the remote user running the remote sshfs process (thus owning it) does have sudo as root permissions on the remote machine
10:26<znoteer>so I still don't understand, but that isn't critical :)
10:26<imMute>znoteer: it has access to sudo, but it doesn't necessarily *use* sudo.
10:27<imMute>if it doesn't use sudo (like trying to open the file directly), then it's not gonna have permission
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10:28<znoteer>but the local user that ran rsync locally has the same numerid uid locally as the remote sshfs user on the remote machine
10:28<znoteer>numeric*
10:28<imMute>doesn't matter. the numbers are different "spaces". the local uid 0 is no bearing on the remote uid 0.
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10:32*znoteer thinks maybe he gets it now. Even though the remote fs appears locally sshfs is still between that local mountpoint and the remote fs. The files didn't all of a sudden get copied to the local system. They just show up locally because sshfs is still wedged into the connection
10:32<znoteer>yes?
10:32<imMute>right. sshfs is "proxying" those files. they're not really there on the local system.
10:33<imMute>when you read a file on that mountpoint, the kernel asks sshfs "hey go get this file for me". and the sshfs on the remote machine then tries to read the file and send it back
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10:35<znoteer>OK, thanks for your patience everyone (azeem, Sqrt{not}, imMute, duclicsic). I barked up the wrong tree. I'm going to reread that wonderful rsync man page some more
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11:01<znoteer>so, I just tried "rsync -PaiHAEX --noatime --numeric-ids bob@fw:/etc $HOME/backups/fw" and I still get permission denied on only-root-readable files.
11:01<imMute>znoteer: right because bob still doesn't have permission to read those files.
11:01<znoteer>Sqrt{not}: you were talking about what the man page calls "connecting to an rsync daemon"?
11:02<znoteer>damn, you're right
11:02<znoteer>not surprisingly
11:02<znoteer>so how am I supposed to backup files that bob doesN't have permission to read?
11:03<znoteer>I don't want to ssh as root
11:03<znoteer>do I?
11:03<imMute>run rsync on the "fw" node instead and use sudo to start it, so it'll have the necessary permissions to read the files.
11:04<znoteer>imMute: run rsync in daemon mode on the fw?
11:04<imMute>and no, root should never be able to log in through SSH, IMO.
11:04<imMute>znoteer: that's another option
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11:04<imMute>znoteer: in your pasted command, you're "pulling" the files from a remote server. rsync can also "push" files to a remote server.
11:05<imMute>so, on the fw node, you can do something like "sudo rsync -PaiHAEX --noatime --numeric-ids /etc user@otherhost:/home/user/backups/fw"
11:05<znoteer>ah, THAT's what Sqrt{not} meant!
11:07<znoteer>so, I'm going to have to setup ssh keys in the opposite directions then, right? Currently, I can connect from my laptop to other machines on the lan, but not from other machines to anywhere else. So, I'll have to set up ssh to work in the other direction then, right?
11:09<imMute>yeah. you don't necessarily need SSH keys for that. I believe rsync will ask you for login credentials for the server's it logs in to
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11:31<znoteer>I installed openssh-server on the laptop and ran rsync on the remote with sudo. I got asked for the password of the user on the remote (because of sudo), then asked the passwd for the user on the laptop, which I entered, but since hitting enter, the connection has hung. What am I getting wrong this time?
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11:38<znoteer>if I control-c to get out of that, I get rsync error: unexplained error (code 130) at rsync.c(644) [sender=3.1.2]
11:43<imMute>is it hung or is it actually transferring files?
11:43<sney>or calculating checksums, which rsync takes a bunch of time to do
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11:47<znoteer>I used -PaiHAEX --noatime --numeric-ids. The -i should give me progress I think, and I never used -c, so it shouldn't be doing any checksumming. Plus, the bulk of the files where able to be transferred with my sshfs attempt. There are maybe 20 30 files left to transfer (from etc). Shouldn't tak too long
11:48<znoteer>take*
11:49<imMute>was there any network or disk IO or CPU used by the rsync processes on either system while it was "hung" ?
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11:50<znoteer>I never checked
11:50<znoteer>but..
11:52<znoteer>I just logged out of the remote, ssh'd back in, and reran the rsynce command. It's been a few minutes so I had to add my passwd for sudo again, then for my local password, and this time the command silently completed, ie., gave me back my command prompt, but nothing got copied
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11:55<znoteer>eg, the sudoers file never got rsync'd
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11:56<anony>hi
11:56<imMute>znoteer: does the file not exist on the destination or is it the wrong data?
11:56<znoteer>it doesn't exist in the destination
11:57<anony>queis this debian server?
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11:57<anony>is this debian server
11:57<grove>It's the -P option to rsync that gives progress, not -i, and -c only affects that one invocation of rsync, it doesn't affect what will happen on future runs
11:58<sney>anony: yes
11:58<znoteer>none of the root-readable-only files got transfered
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11:59<znoteer>well -i maybe doesn't exactly show progress, but it itemizes changes and none were itemized
11:59<imMute>znoteer: maybe it couldn't recreate the file permissions on the destination (because it isn't root on the dest). I would expect an error message in that case though. what was the return code?
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12:00<znoteer>what's return code again $# ?
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14:02<ref>hello.. I'm having some issues with my new graphics card, the OpenGL renderer is set to llvmpipe which makes everything horribly slow
14:02<sney>what gpu, what debian version, what have you tried already?
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14:05<ref>AMD 5600.. amdgpu-driver.. debian 10/Buster.. at first, the card didn't show up properly with lspci, it just showed a pci id there.. so I updated the kernel to 5.9 from backports.. and then it was detected.. however, the firmware wasn't there.. so I added that from the github repository.. rebuilt initramfs..
14:06<ref>to be honest, it was years ago since I fiddled with this so I'm out on thin ice as it is
14:06<sney>the 5600, that's extremely brand new right?
14:07<ref>it's about a year old.. but it's new enough that you have to have an updated kernel and such
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14:08<sney>ok. please pastebin your xorg log and anything relevant from dmesg/journalctl
14:08<sney>!paste
14:08<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: https://paste.debian.net | pics/screenshots: https://imgbb.com/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): https://filebin.net or https://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <termbin>.
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14:13<ref>https://pastebin.com/gPZSzDWm
14:14<ref>there's almost no errors
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14:20<sney>amdgpu seems to be ok. are you missing libglx-mesa0?
14:21<ref>no.. says it's installed
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14:22<ref>frustrating, since I read an article on phoronix - published almost a year ago and they had zero problems, it worked out of the box.. and I've spent 2 days and all I get is llvmpipe..
14:23<sney>yes, a 1-year-old gpu should be easy to get working
14:23<sney>FFR the firmware is packaged in debian as firmware-amd-graphics. but whatever you found on github seems to be loading ok
14:24<sney>you could try upgrading to bullseye. you'll get a newer xorg, and the freeze starts in a couple days so this is really the safest time to use debian testing.
14:25<ref>that package IS installed, but it lacked the particular firmware for this card.. so I went to the source at git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git and checked that out
14:25<sney>also make sure you have recommends enabled, some people think turning them off will reduce "bloat" but it really just breaks things in unpredictable ways
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14:27<ref>you wouldn't happen to have an howto for that? I assume we're talking apt-configuration?
14:28<sney>they're enabled by default, so it would be something that you disabled yourself. check in /etc/apt/apt.conf or apt.conf.d/, the line item is something like APT::Install-Recommends=no
14:29<ref>thank you - haven't disabled anything
14:34<blast007>ref: note that the buster-backports version of firmware-amd-graphics *does* include the firmware for your card, so maybe you need to enable backports and use the backports kernel and firmware
14:35<sney>they're already on the bpo kernel, and the firmware from kernel.org is what debian distributes anyway
14:35<ref>perhaps I forgot to update that package? I don't remember anymore.
14:36<ref>I just noted that it said file missing in dmesg
14:37<sney>I don't see that in your paste
14:37<ref>and I do use the backports kernel, 5.9
14:37<ref>no, I fixed it some hours ago
14:38<ref>Jan 8 18:52:17 proxima kernel: [ 1.097567] amdgpu 0000:08:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware amdgpu/navi10_sos.bin
14:38<blast007>okay
14:38<ref>duh.. wrong line. meant to paste the one with the error
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14:40<sney>also, kernel modules have a big list of compatible firmware blobs, and not every driver needs every supported blob. my iwlwifi device complains about a missing bin on every boot but it works 100% with the ones that I do have.
14:42<ref>well for this, it needed it.. without that firmware, it wouldn't create the needed /dev entries I believe.. X ended up using some generic driver, though there's little difference regarding performance for opengl stuff
14:43<ref>in a week, I've gone from debian 9, to 10.. and I assume bullseye will be 11?
14:43<sney>yep
14:43<sney>dpkg: buster->bullseye
14:43<dpkg>In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "buster" to "bullseye", remove lines like buster-backports, debian-multimedia <dmo>, and other 3rd party repos as they are known to cause issues then do: apt update && apt upgrade && apt full-upgrade. Note that testing is a <moving target> and may be buggy, and read the sid FAQ: https://deb.li/sidfaq
14:43<sney>we are probably ~8 months until the official release
14:44<ref>upgrade is already underway :)
14:44<ref>since I did this yesterday, it was kinda fresh in my memory
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15:30<ref>is it recommended to use apt instead of apt-get/aptitude these days?
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15:32<Mister00X>!apt vs apt-get
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15:33<Mister00X>!apt vs. apt-get
15:33<dpkg>apt is promoted over apt-get for interactive use. It uses fancy colors and has output format differences. It removes the .deb files that it downloads during an install or upgrade. It installs new packages during upgrades. apt-get has a stable command-line interface and is promoted for scripting.
15:34<Mister00X>now it works^^
15:34<ref>thanks :)
15:36<Mister00X>ref: aptitude is fine though
15:37<Mister00X>just avoid it for dist-upgrades
15:37<Mister00X>the conflict resolver is not that good for dist-upgrades from what I've read
15:38<sney>aptitude isn't installed by default on debian systems anymore, but it's still a handy tool for untangling dependency issues. plus I've heard you can use the curses ui to automate stuff too
15:39<sney>it was recommended for full-upgrades in the squeeze era. I'm not sure what changed that, except it's a bigger program and could be slow on common hardware in ~2010
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15:41<ref>yeah, I noticed.. I ran into the conflict resolver timeout.. so I doubled it and I still ran into it.. while apt just churned away.. perhaps 99% of the work was done by aptitude, or apt is just lightning fast.. not sure which is correct.
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15:43<Mister00X>ref: aptitude is great for "single" conflicts but when it comes to greater upgrades it seems to be a bit unconvienent, especialy when a large number of packages are removed
15:44<Mister00X>just my opinion
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15:53<ref>thanks for your time.. now I'm gonna see if the upgrade works.
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15:55<ref>sney : it worked.. thanks for the suggestion :)
15:55<sney>np
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15:59<znoteer>I'm having a new problem with rsync. To copy files from a remote machine to my laptop I ran on the remote machine, the command "sudo rsync -PaHAEX --noatime --numeric-ids /etc alice@laptop:/home/alice/backup_stretch-to-buster". I thought the -a switch was supposed to preserve owner and group, but files that were user:group root:root or root:somesysgroup all got owned by alice:alice on the
15:59<znoteer>laptop. Anyone know what I've done wrong?
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16:00<sarnold>znoteer: you're logging in as alice. alice does not have the ability to give away files; only root can change file owners
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16:01<znoteer>sarnold: then what are -o and -g (included by -a) for?
16:01<sarnold>(once upon a time, some unix systems let users give away files. this was found to be a bad idea, because this let people bypass their own quota: they'd mkdir ~/foo ; chmod 700 ~/foo ; make_big_file > ~/foo/huge_file ; chmod 666 ~/foo/huge_file ; chmod victim ~/foo/huge_file
16:02<znoteer>hmm
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16:02<sarnold>znoteer: hmm, now that I'm re-reading your command, I realize that you're missing either the source or the destination :)
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16:02<sarnold>znoteer: so I saw alice@foo:/... as the destination.. now it just kinda looksl ike a broken command, hehe
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16:03<znoteer>sarnold: /etc is the source /home/alice/backup_stretch-to-buster is the destination
16:04<sarnold>znoteer: log in as root then?
16:05<znoteer>do you mean become root on the remote before running rsync, or use root@foo: for the destination?
16:05<znoteer>both seem bad ideas to me
16:05<znoteer>I thought one was supposed to avoid logging in as root, especialy remotely
16:06<znoteer>especially*
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16:07<znoteer>what's the point of the -o and -g switches if they don't preserve owner and group?
16:08<znoteer>sarnold: ^^
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16:11<sney>presumably they try to, but they can't override what the user alice is able to do
16:11<sarnold>znoteer: the -o and -g etc switches tell the rsync command on the sending side to send those things with the remote peer; even though you're telling rsync how to log in on the remote side, it doesn't actually know that it won't be able to honour the owner and group file changes until the remote end tries, and fails
16:11<sarnold>znoteer: maybe it would have been kinder of the rsync devs to outright fail the connection on the first error
16:12<jhutchins>znoteer: Most secure environments don't allow connection as root, and some don't allow su, but most will support sudo -i
16:12<znoteer>sarnold: so is there some recommended way to preserve owner:group when rsync'ing files from one box to another?
16:12<jhutchins>znoteer: -a
16:13<znoteer>jhutchins: that's what I used and it didn't work
16:13<jhutchins>znoteer: Or tar.
16:13<sney>tar is what I use for stuff like this
16:13<jhutchins>znoteer: Hm. May require root after all.
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16:14<znoteer>sney you make a tar ball then transfer that to the remote machine?
16:14<sney>yep, or to removable storage
16:15<jhutchins>znoteer: yeah, that should work, then manipulate the tarbal with sudo.
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16:15<logantischler0>I am using an Acer Chromebook C720, which I dual-booted Debian buster onto, using crouton. I have a TI-Nspire CX II CAS, which I am trying to dual-boot Debian onto with the help of the tutorial I mentioned.
16:15<logantischler0>Steps 1 through 5 work fine for me, but when I do ```sudo chroot /mnt``` in step 6, I get an error:
16:15<logantischler0>```
16:15<logantischler0>chroot: failed to run command '/bin/bash': Exec format error
16:15<znoteer>I thought rsync was supposed to do just this sort of thing...
16:15<logantischler0>```
16:15<logantischler0>I read here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/14280/during-a-chroot-attempt-i-got-this-error-chroot-failed-to-run-command-bin But I have no idea where to go from there.
16:15<logantischler0>Should I have dual-booted a 32-bit version of Debian buster, rather than the 64-bit version I am running currently?
16:15<sney>tar preserves permissions and symlinks etc by default, so you don't need alphabet soup either. just tar cf file.tar contents contents contents :)
16:15<logantischler0>Any help is greatly appreciated.
16:16<sarnold>znoteer: it does, when you run it with appropriate privileges :)
16:16<sney>logantischler0: please don't spam the channel.
16:16<logantischler0>how do i msg bot
16:16<sarnold>logantischler0: there's no point in markdown here, either, everybody uses monospaced fonts on irc already :)
16:16<logantischler0>how do i msg bot
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16:16<sney>!msg the bot
16:16<dpkg>Please have conversations with the bots in a private message as much as possible. Instead of using "!topic" or "!tell <your nick> about <topic>" in the channel, you can just "/msg dpkg topic". See <bot help> and http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn more and browse my factoids on-line at http://ircbots.debian.net/ . Also ask me about <judd>, which is another bot and window into the Ultimate Debian Database.
16:16<sarnold>logantischler0: /msg botname
16:17<logantischler0>how do i know whos a bot and who isnt
16:18<grzesiek11>you don't
16:18<logantischler0>wut
16:18<logantischler0>how do i msg a bot then w/o nick
16:18<petn-randall>logantischler0: only judd and dpkg are official bots in here.
16:18<logantischler0>cool thx
16:19<znoteer>sarnold: "it does, when run with appropriate priviledges" can you share how to do that? I thought "sudo rsync..." gave it the appropriate permissions, but I guess not on the destination side, so how do I get them on the destination side?
16:21<sarnold>znoteer: log in as root
16:21<znoteer>you mean instead of sudo?
16:22<znoteer># rsync... instead of $ sudo rsync...
16:23<znoteer>or do you mean to root@foo:dir
16:23<jhutchins>sudo -i
16:23<jhutchins>ssh target; sudo -i
16:23<petn-randall>znoteer: What is your full rsync command? if you ssh on one side, and need root there, you need to use root permission for login.
16:23<sarnold>znoteer: root@foo:dir, too
16:23<jhutchins>We don't actually know what your configuration or purpose are.
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16:27<znoteer>petn-randall: jhutchins: explained above, but here goes again because it's been awhile. copy some files from remote machine "fw" to local machine "laptop" to prepare to an upgrade to Buster. I've ssh'd into fw and issued the command "sudo rsync -PaHAEX --noatime --numeric-ids /etc alice@laptop:/home/alice/backupdir/"
16:28<sarnold>jhutchins: much of the command was pasted earlier, sudo rsync -PaHAEX --noatime --numeric-ids /etc alice@laptop:/home/alice/backup_stretch-to-buster" -- "/etc is the source /home/alice/backup_stretch-to-buster"
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16:28<znoteer>but that didn't preserve owner:group info in alice's dir
16:28<znoteer>I am now going to try with sudo -i as jhutchins suggested
16:29<sarnold>don't forget to replace alice@ with root@
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16:32<petn-randall>znoteer: you need to use root@laptop then, and the command is otherwise fine. Another option is to just run `tar -zcvf etc.tar.gz /etc/` and copy the tarball over. That way your permissions are preserved without you having to fiddle around with copy permissions.
16:33<jhutchins>Yeah, for something like that, if root ssh is blocked, I would definitely use tar.
16:34<jhutchins>Coming from an MS DOS background, I'm pretty used to having a root console full time.
16:34<znoteer>anything I've read on securing systems and networks says to avoid letting people ssh in a box as root. Using root@laptop seems to go against that
16:34<jhutchins>(I was also a BOFH on some maiinframes.)
16:34<jhutchins>znoteer: As I said before, ssh as user, then become root with either su - or sudo -i
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16:35<znoteer>jhutchins: I tried using sudo -i
16:35<jhutchins>znoteer: I definitely recommend against using sudo with bash scripts. My results were unpredictable and unfortunate.
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16:35<znoteer>not scripting
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16:36<jhutchins>Just a side note.
16:36<jhutchins>What happened with sudo -i?
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16:39<znoteer>jhutchins: got a bunch of errors like 'rsync: mkstemp "/home/alice/backupdir/etc/.sudoer.q3EtqL" failed: Permission denied (13)' sudoers is readable by root only
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16:40<znoteer>oh wait, I didn't become root by running sudo -i and then run the command rsync. I ran sudo -i rsync...
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16:41<znoteer>a couple of years ago, I would have just used tar or cpio, but I thought rsync was made for this kind of thing
16:42<sney>broadly, it is, but your remote alice@ user can only create files owned by herself, and rsync can't override that
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16:44<Echoz>bob, on the other hand
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16:51<jhutchins>znoteer: Ah, yes. Not the ; in the commandas I suggested it. That indicates sequential commands (although it can be used as a sequencer in a one-line
16:51<jhutchins>note.
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16:53<petn-randall>jhutchins: how is `sudo -i` supposed to work when rsync'ing on a remote side?
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16:56<jhutchins>It's not.
16:57<jhutchins>rsync requires the ability to ssh as root.
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16:57<jhutchins>You CAN sometimes ssh as root with a key as opposed to a password. We don't know much about this guy's environment except "doesn't work".
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16:58<jhutchins>What I usually did on the secure sites I worked on was tar, rsync as user, ssh, sudo -i, move tarball, un-tar.
16:59<jhutchins>Since this doesn't appear to be a public network with possible hostiles having access, allowing root ssh at least with keys seems reasonable.
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17:22<Sqrt{not}>znoteer, now I see that you are just trying to make a backup copy of your /etc/ directory, I second the suggestion to just use tar, especially if you are already familiar with it from the old days ;)
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17:25<srudas>como iniciar session automaticamente en debian
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17:46<jhutchins>znoteer: Also, you should probably not be booted to that copy of the OS when you do this. /etc is mostly static configs, but it can have some dynamic content as well. That will get you permissions denied even as root.
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18:33<encryptedsnowstorm>hello?
18:33<sney>hi
18:33<encryptedsnowstorm>So I was trying to install debian
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18:34<encryptedsnowstorm>But uh, once I get past the first screen, where it asks me how to install, the graphics are all garbled
18:34<encryptedsnowstorm>And I can't figure out why
18:34<petn-randall>encryptedsnowstorm: Which installation image are you using?
18:35<sney>you might be missing video firmware, or just use the 'install' option instead of 'graphical install'
18:35<encryptedsnowstorm>firmware-10.7.0-amd64-netinst
18:35<encryptedsnowstorm>it's "nonfree drivers" version I think
18:35<encryptedsnowstorm>I have the AMD Vega 56
18:35<petn-randall>I'd try the text install, graphics might not work out of the box during installation.
18:36<encryptedsnowstorm>I think I tried that, but Ill try again...
18:36<encryptedsnowstorm>one sec
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18:40<encryptedsnowstorm>hey im back
18:41<encryptedsnowstorm>yeah it's still garbled. the colors are different (looks like bios colors) but the screen is still grabled the same way
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18:41<encryptedsnowstorm>I don't get it
18:42<encryptedsnowstorm>It's not the iso, I've tried reflashing, from different pcs, or different isos
18:42<encryptedsnowstorm>it seems to be a graphics iso, but it still happens in the non-graphical install
18:42<encryptedsnowstorm>graphics issue*
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18:43<encryptedsnowstorm>please someone help >.<
18:43<encryptedsnowstorm>I just want to install debian on this pc
18:43<sney>you said it, it's a weird issue. this isn't a drive thru where everyone knows every answer
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18:44<sney>go into your system's efi menu and see if there are any settings about video, or specific OS selection, etc. try to make it as basic as possible and then try the install again
18:44<encryptedsnowstorm>maybe I should plug my ssd into my bros pc and install it (if it works), then put the ssd back in my pc lol
18:45<encryptedsnowstorm>I'm on Mint right now
18:45<sarnold>encryptedsnowstorm: once upon a time adding or removing 'nomodeset' to the kernel command line helped corruption..
18:45<sney>sure, linux doesn't mind being moved from machine to machine
18:46<encryptedsnowstorm>sarnold I have zero idea how to do that
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18:46<sarnold>hopefully it's quicker to try it out than commandeering your brother's machine for a bit :) but that feels possible, hehe
18:47<sarnold>I've not seen the debian installer in ages; there's probably a grub menu at boot with a few choices .. and there's probably a way to edit the commandline at that menu, e or something
18:47<encryptedsnowstorm>oh yeah that
18:47<encryptedsnowstorm>menu
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18:48<encryptedsnowstorm>the first menu that pops up when I boot from usb works, but doing *any* of the install options, well it ""works"" but like I said the graphics are scrambled
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18:50<sney>in that menu there should be an option to edit boot options... I'm going to boot the installer in a vm
18:51<sarnold>woot, thanks sney :)
18:51<sney>hmm, in bios mode there isn't a way to change boot options that I can see
18:52<sarnold>hmm, really? I've got a vague memory of f1 through f5 showing help screens that described different options that could be set
18:52<sarnold>but like I said, it's been a while
18:54<sney>aha!
18:55<sney>select the 'help' option, you get those F keys, and then you can enter the options at the bottom. so e.g. type 'install nomodeset'
18:56<sney>encryptedsnowstorm: ^
18:57<sarnold>sweeeeet!
18:57<sarnold>thanks sney
18:57<sney>np
18:57<sarnold>this is of cours ejust a wild guess :( but I know it helped people in the past
18:58<sney>vega 56 is from 2017, which means it should have been well supported by the time buster was frozen
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18:59<sney>though the radeon family stuff has always been a little funny
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19:03<encryptedsnowstorm>okay imma try that
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19:07<encrypte2snowstorm>nope
19:08<encrypte2snowstorm>so i select "help"
19:08<encrypte2snowstorm>which brings me to a terminal
19:08<encrypte2snowstorm>I type "install nomodeset"
19:08<encrypte2snowstorm>and it takes me to the menu where it's all garbled again
19:08<encrypte2snowstorm>ughhhhhhhhhhhhh
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19:10<Sqrt{not}>encrypte2snowstorm, when you wrote the installer image, what command did you use?
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19:11<encrypte2snowstorm>i used balena etcher
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19:17<Sqrt{not}>encrypte2snowstorm, I'm not familiar with that one. did you use it in mint, or some other OS?
19:17<encrypte2snowstorm>mint
19:17<encrypte2snowstorm>its like, the most popular usb flashing tool
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19:18<sney>some tools mangle the debian installer, but I don't think etcher is one of them.
19:20<Sqrt{not}>!etcher
19:20<dpkg>Etcher is not a reliable way to copy Debian images for installation. Instead, use cp or dd for linux or win32diskimager for Windows. https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/ch04s03.en.html
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19:21<encrypte2snowstorm>dpkg I'm on Linux Mint
19:21<dpkg>encrypte2snowstorm: I give up, what is it?
19:21<Sqrt{not}>encrypte2snowstorm, try just using dd or cp cp /path/to/debian.iso /dev/sdc or whatever is your USB drive /dev/sdc not /dev/sdc1
19:22<Sqrt{not}>encrypte2snowstorm, dpkg is a bot
19:22<Sqrt{not}>(worth a try, just to see if you get the same result or something different, no?)
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19:23<Sqrt{not}>make sure the stick is unmounted, or its partitions are unmounted
19:24<encrypte2snowstorm>uh
19:24<Sqrt{not}>encrypte2snowstorm, BTW, that install guide dpkg gave a link to, is full of good info
19:25<encrypte2snowstorm>it looks pretty complicated >.<
19:25<Sqrt{not}>cp /path/to/debian.iso /dev/sdc
19:25<Sqrt{not}>one unix command
19:29<encrypte2snowstorm>okay so it would be 'cp c:/home/encrypte2snowstorm/desktop/debian.iso /dev/sdc'?
19:30<Sqrt{not}>assuming the USB thing is on /dev/sdc (although I'm not sure if "cp" is a windows/dos command? is that c:/home thing mint?)
19:31<encrypte2snowstorm>does linux not do C:/
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19:31<Sqrt{not}>not that I remember. if you are on windows, there is other advice
19:31<encrypte2snowstorm>No im on minttt
19:32<sney>there is no c: on linux, it would just be /home/encry...
19:32<encrypte2snowstorm>okay
19:32<encrypte2snowstorm>and how do I know what file path to put for the usb
19:33<encrypte2snowstorm>'/media/encrypte2snowstorm/Debian 10.7.0 amd64 n' ?
19:33<encrypte2snowstorm>thats what the drive is currently named
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19:35<sney>eject/unmount it, unplug it and plug it back in, then open a terminal and do 'dmesg |tail'
19:36<sney>youll see some messages about the new device that was just connected.
19:37<sney>if you see 'sdc' then that means the target device is /dev/sdc like Sqrt{not} said. depending on how many disks you have, it could be sdd, f, g, etc
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19:39<encryptedsnowstorm>Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
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19:40<sney>different line. somehow I don't have a flash drive on my desk to test this and tell you exactly what to look for, hm
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19:41<Sqrt{not}>try this command: mount | grep Debian
19:43<Sqrt{not}>encryptedsnowstorm, the next line in dmesg after that thing about sd2 should have something like [sdb]
19:43<Sqrt{not}>errr, *thing about sg2*
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19:51<Sqrt{not}>for me the next line in dmesg is this: [199259.665434] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] 62976 512-byte logical blocks: (32.2 MB/30.8 MiB)
19:51<Sqrt{not}>that [sdb] is what we are looking for
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21:20<garphyle>Howdy - I'm a newb, just installed debian 10. su won't accept my password or blank. do I need to reinstall and put in a root pw?
21:20<sney>garphyle: if you didn't set a root password, then your first user has sudo enabled by default
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21:21<sney>so you can 'sudo -i' for the su behavior you expect
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21:21<sney>(the installer explains this in the root password section)
21:22<garphyle>That actually worked, but the docs I was reading, told me to 'su -l' and no password would authenticate. I thought I might have screwed up the install
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21:23<garphyle>sudo echo 'Hello' worked just fine
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21:26<sney>always check the date on your documentation. this has been standard debian practice for a few years, but not forever. anyway, how you become root is up to you, as long as you understand the distinction
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21:27<garphyle>Thank you, sney. Maybe I'm not up to debian. I thought I could deep dive my way though. But if this is my stumbling block, I should probably go back to the shallows. :D
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21:29<sney>nah you seem off to a better start than many
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21:30<garphyle>lol - that was kind, and I will pour over some more docs before I quit. But dang ... wine is tripping me up? you gotta admit ...
21:31<sney>wine is a nuisance even for us oldheads. I pretty much don't use it outside of proton anymore
21:31<garphyle>I was trying to install Warcraft, and Steam
21:32<sney>debian has steam packaged
21:32<sney>,i steam
21:32<judd>No package named 'steam' was found in buster/amd64.
21:32<sney>,i steam --arch i386
21:32<judd>Package steam (non-free/games, optional) in buster/i386: Valve's Steam digital software delivery system. Version: 1.0.0.59-4; Size: 1412.9k; Installed: 4367k; Homepage: http://www.steampowered.com; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/steam
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21:33<garphyle>I searched steam in discover, software and menus
21:34<sney>you have to enable multiarch, it's a 32-bit package.
21:34<sney>run 'dpkg --add-architecture i386' and then apt update, then apt install steam:i386
21:35<garphyle>thank you
21:36<garphyle>that was one of the commands
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21:40<garphyle>no joy. Unable to locate package
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21:41<sney>are you sure you did 'apt update' between adding i386 and trying to install steam?
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21:42<garphyle>So .. let's say, you were a support engineer. M4 servers, workstations, network support, and you were stretching yourself into learning Linux, and mint went well, and you decided that however painful the begining
21:43<garphyle>Debian was a good path. And a helpful co-worker and friend suggested that the 1st prog you should install and run was wine
21:43<garphyle>He was messing with you?
21:43<sney>depends. wine is useful, and maybe indispensable, if you need some windows-only thing
21:44<sney>it's a tool like anything else. do you need it? decide based on that.
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21:45<garphyle>:/ OK, because of hexchat I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. But finding out everyone has trouble has me a little leary.
21:46<garphyle>Warcraft, elite dangerous, no man's sky, subnautica, etc. No matter what I'll always need windows for my oculus rift
21:47<sney>wine is a compatibility layer for running software intended for a different OS, with no cooperation from that OS's developers. it's hairy by nature. last time I played WoW it worked pretty out of the box on wine, but that was over 10 years ago, so who knows now.
21:47<garphyle>All packages are up to date
21:48<sney>with wine in general, if you follow this https://wiki.winehq.org/Debian and don't ignore the step about libfaudio0 mentioned in the note at the top, it'll install without much trouble. then you just get to fight with it about running stuff.
21:48<sney>yes, with apt, any time you change the sources or configuration (or add an architecture) you have to run apt update, or it won't know about your changes
21:49<garphyle>'E: Unable to locate package Steam:i386' And I tried steam w/o :i386
21:49<garphyle>good to learn, thanks
21:50<sney>hmm. can you pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list ? it might be missing something.
21:50<sney>!paste
21:50<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: https://paste.debian.net | pics/screenshots: https://imgbb.com/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): https://filebin.net or https://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <termbin>.
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