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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-01-15

---Logopened Fri Jan 15 00:00:55 2021
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00:01-!-simonpatapon is "Simon Patapon" on #buddhism #debian-next #oftc #debian #bitlbee
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03:21<cousin_luigi>Greetings.
03:21<cousin_luigi>If iptables-restore-translate doesn't give out any error, does it mean I'm good to go?
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04:09<ottavio>How do I point update-alternatives to have "x-www-browser" = firefox in private mode? Is that even possible?
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04:11<jm_>not sure if this helps, but there's a "Always use private browsing mode" checkbox in preferences
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04:13<ottavio>jm_: no, that wouldn't work for me for a number of reasons, unfortunately.
04:14<ottavio>What if I write a shell script that points to firefox private mode and then symlink that to /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser?
04:15<jm_>I assume that one toggles some pref so perhaps it can also be done via one of the preferences file
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04:15<ottavio>Which preferenes files?
04:15<jm_>https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Preferences/A_brief_guide_to_Mozilla_preferences
04:16<ottavio>I dont want to alter FF preferences. I just want to open all web links in FF private mode.
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04:25<visbran>who #debian
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08:43<Lantizia_>hey... what exactly is $LIB meant to equal when used with LD_PRELOAD?
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08:43<Lantizia_>because using it, and using the absolute path (that I *think* $LIB would point to, in this scenario) result in different errors
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08:46<Peanut>Hi, I'm trying to netboot Bullseye, but it complains about module versions being out of sync. When I look in /proc/version (on the netbooted machine), it says: "Linux version 5.9.0-4-amd64 (debian-kernel@lists.debian.org) (gcc-10 (Debian 10.2.0-19) 10.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils for Debian) 2.35.1) #1 SMP Debian 5.9.11-1 (2020-11-27)" - so is it 5.9.0-4, or 5.9.11-1 ?
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08:48<jm_>Lantizia_: man ld.so explains what $LIB means for it
08:49<jm_>Peanut: support for testing is in #debian-next
08:49<Peanut>jm_: Ok, thanks
08:49<zoke>Lantizia_: https://paste.debian.net/1181243/ <- usage example
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08:53<Lantizia_>jm_, I didn't ask what it does - that I know
08:53<Lantizia_>zoke, already know how it's used - not what I asked
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08:54<Lantizia_>suffice to say using something like... LD_PRELOAD='/$LIB/libc-2.31.so' and LD_PRELOAD='/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc-2.31.so'
08:55<Lantizia_>get different results... which you wouldn't think it would... if $LIB is equal to /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu when running a 32-bit app
08:55<Lantizia_>so I'm after a way of verifying what EXACTLY is inside $LIB
08:55<zoke>if you're using single quotes in bash the $LIBS wont get expanded
08:55<zoke>s/LIBS/LIB/
08:56<Lantizia_>normally no - but here... apparently yes it does
08:56<Lantizia_>as it's not your shell expanding it, is it?
08:56<Lantizia_>is ld.so
08:56<Lantizia_>*it's
08:57<zoke>expands to lib or lib64 dending on arch
08:57<zoke>according to man ld.so
08:57<Lantizia_>read that already - it's also dependant on distro... which is why I'm specifically in #debian
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08:58<Lantizia_>you know, I'd probably be quicker looking at how debian compiled the thing
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08:58<zoke>LD_PRELOAD='/$LIB/libc-2.31.so' => LD_PRELOAD='/lib/libc-2.31.so' from my understanding
08:59<zoke>which is different from the full path you specified in the other example
09:00<zoke>$LIB does not expand to a path... just either of the strings lib or lib64
09:00<Lantizia_>well actually it's not really when /lib is a symlink to /usr/lib these days
09:01<zoke>still missing the i386-linux-gnu part
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09:03<Lantizia_>ok so ... LD_PRELOAD='/$LIB/libc-2.31.so' ./firefox
09:03<Lantizia_>is actually saying (as I'm on a 64-bit distro, but the application is 32-bit)... /lib/libc-2.31.so or /lib64/libc-2.31.so ?
09:03<Lantizia_>which is it? :D
09:03<Lantizia_>because neither file at either location path exists
09:03<Lantizia_>yet it doesn't give an error at all
09:04<Lantizia_>but if you use... LD_PRELOAD='/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc-2.31.so' ./firefox
09:04<Lantizia_>which *DOES* exist... you get... ERROR: ld.so: object '/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc-2.31.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
09:04<Lantizia_>which is odd for a 32-bit app to be complaining about loading a 32-bit library
09:05<zoke>and loading the application without LD_PRELOAD works?
09:06<Lantizia_>where are you going with that?
09:07<zoke>multi-arch issue?
09:07<Lantizia_>you think this because?
09:07<zoke>wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
09:07<Lantizia_>the app runs fine without LD_PRELOAD... but later on it tries to preload a 32-bit library and gives... wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
09:08<Lantizia_>so I've made it simpler by using LD_PRELOAD myself on something, more basic... like libc-2.31
09:08<Lantizia_>which really ought to be fine shouldn't it?
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09:10<zoke>and ./firefox is the actual ELF binary and not some wrapper script?
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09:24<mendel_munkis>is there any simple way to run sort on part of a file without chunking said file?
09:25<mendel_munkis>(it's choking on a half billion line file)
09:25<Lantizia_>zoke, yes
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09:31<zoke>mendel_munkis: vi/vim has a sort function which can operate on ranges... may work for you
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09:37<grove>mendel_munkis: What are you trying to accomplish? sort can read from stdin, so you can use whatever tool you like before it to select the lines you want it to operate on
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09:39<zoke>mendel_munkis: https://paste.debian.net/1181251/ <- in place partial sort example using vim
09:40<mendel_munkis>thanks. somehow I completely forgot I can do that.
09:40<mendel_munkis>what I am trying to do is deduplicate a rather large file
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11:41<xypron>mendel_munkis: if the file does not fit into memory you need to sort on disk. E.g. by implementing merge sort. Cf. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/930044/how-could-the-unix-sort-command-sort-a-very-large-file
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11:42<xypron>mendel_munkis: observe the -m parameter of sort
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11:46<mendel_munkis>xypron: yes I am aware it uses files to sort.
11:46<mendel_munkis>what does -m have to do with anything?
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13:04<xypron>mendel_munkis: you take 2 sorted files and sort -m merges them into one. Cf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merge_sort
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13:23<olspookishmagus>hello, what creates this dialog? https://paste.debian.net/plain/1181278
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13:42<retrospectacus>olspookishmagus: dpkg
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13:52<olspookishmagus>retrospectacus: thank you
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15:18<Wasd>Hello, anyone here?
15:18<Wasd>I need help
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15:19<sarnold>Wasd: irc works best with more specific questions :)
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15:20<Wasd>Okey, this is mby stupid question but am I more protected with VPN or its just myth?
15:20<SubOptimal>sarnold: :-)
15:21<Wasd>?
15:21<ottavio>Wasd: what do you expect a vpn to do for you? Protect from what?
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15:23<SubOptimal>Wasd: VPN - creates a private network accross a public network (e.g. the internet), even encryption is common it's not necessary part of a VPN
15:24<SubOptimal>Wasd: If your VPN is not encrypted your data might be read the same way as using unencrypted public network.
15:24<ottavio>SubOptimal: most vpn's use ipsec, but this is not the point.
15:24<sarnold>Wasd: vpns are useful if you need to change the country your requests are coming for to bypass stupid georestricted content
15:24<Wasd>Ty that was answer that i needed
15:24<ottavio>One needs to define "protect".
15:24<sarnold>Wasd: vpns are also useful if you want your computer to act much like it's on your home network or corporate network, etc
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15:25<SubOptimal>ottavio: That was my point.
15:25<Wasd>my provider can see what I'm searching on net? even with vpn?
15:25<LouWestin>I'd use one when on public wifi
15:25<sarnold>Wasd: if you've heard those advertisements on youtube too many times, then this may be relevant; it's been a while since I've read it but I remember thinking it was largely right https://gist.github.com/joepie91/5a9909939e6ce7d09e29
15:26<ottavio>Wasd: no, they cannot if the vpn is encrypted, but if this is all yiu want, you're better off using tor.
15:27<ottavio>But the VPN's own ISP can.
15:27<Wasd>tyy, really guys you helped me a lot, i want to learn stuff about net and ethical hacking
15:28<ottavio>All the VPN does is join your computer to a remote network. Encryption is a plus.
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15:28<Wasd>and i saw one advertisements said that provider can't see what are we searching on net when our vpn is on so i was curious
15:29<ottavio>Your provider might not see it but whoever administers the VPN can (or might).
15:29<Wasd>Yes i know that
15:29<Wasd>I was just carious about that
15:29<ottavio>You want to go for the tor route but even that is not 100% safe from snooping.
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15:30<ottavio>Bottom line nothing is 100% safe and most IT security is marketing buzzwords.
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15:31<Wasd> hahaha yes right
15:31<ottavio>Never mind what encryption you use, Google will definitely know what you have been searching.
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15:32<ottavio>I would rather fear Google than my ISP, although they are both evil.
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15:32<SubOptimal>Wasd: Depending which information you do not want to share the VPN might not be the solution for it.
15:33<Wasd>for sure, or some bigger agency like NSA or CIA ... or idk they will always find a way to track you or find you
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15:34<ottavio>The only reason why I would want to use a VPN is to pretend I'm in a different country, say, for tax purposes.
15:34<SubOptimal>Your browser might be the biggest snitch.
15:34<Wasd>yes one more question is there any "safe" browser?
15:34<ottavio>No.
15:34<ottavio>Maybe the tor browser.
15:34<Wasd>and what your think about Signal, is that app really safe
15:35<Wasd>yes, but except tor
15:35<ottavio>I have no idea what it is.
15:35<SubOptimal>I believe Signal is.
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15:36<Wasd>okey i saw some people post it on twitter
15:36<ottavio>The web is by definition one of the unsafest protocols, even with encryption.
15:36<IPFreely>Signal is close to best that's also widely used.
15:37<LouWestin>Signal has been working to catch up with all the new people joining
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15:37<Wasd>I think that any app with like more then 1mil users or more like 10mil can't be safe app
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15:37<LouWestin>People jumped ship from WhatsApp
15:37<wgreenhouse>how is this conversation debian related?
15:38<SubOptimal>Debian VPN maybe. ;-)
15:38<Wasd>HAHAHA yes
15:38<ax562>LouWestin why did people jump ship?
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15:39<LouWestin>Facebook bought them out years ago and I guess recently they changed the privacy policy to share personal information with no optout feature
15:39<ax562>WHAT?@?
15:39<LouWestin>I'm not sure why anyone would be surprised, but...
15:40<SubOptimal>There is an opt-out: If you don't agree you have to stop using WhatsApp.
15:40<LouWestin>^^This
15:40<ax562>I torched all social media fb ig etc, but I use whatsapp because of the "whatsdesk" pc interface. It also block all the propaganda streaming only legit friends text
15:40<IPFreely>ax562: Grats!
15:41<IPFreely>We need to boycot proprietary warez.
15:41<ax562>well, finding this info, isnt' surprising.
15:41<ax562>right lol
15:41<LouWestin>Signal has a desktop app. I made a google number instead of using my real number
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15:41<ax562>LouWestin so you use signal with a google number on your pc?
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15:42<LouWestin>Both PC and phone
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15:43<ottavio>IPFreely: agree, let's make a facebook/Twitter/Instagram campaign about it!
15:43<ax562>oh nice
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15:43<ax562>the whatsapp is cool because EVERYONE has it.
15:43<ottavio>I don't.
15:43<ax562>I mean, realistically, the FB logo is on whatsapp, I really knew all this.
15:44<ax562>well, I mean my familiy and friends that I want to communicate with
15:44<ax562>I would say dang near 100% of everyone I want to chat with has it.
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15:45<Wasd>For me, it's not big deal, i don't care for that
15:45<ax562>debian should come out with whatsdebian?!? :p
15:45<ax562>Wasd yeah, to each is own. I use it because I can be on my pc shooting my friends links and stuff
15:46<ax562>anyone enjoying debian 11?
15:47<SubOptimal>Me.
15:47<LouWestin>I love Debian for my servers
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15:49<ax562>SubOptimal isn't it so smooth and stable. I actaully have to give #debian props! Thank you for all the great work!!
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15:50<SubOptimal>I don't remember any serious issue since I installed it, the time when Buster became stable.
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15:51<ax562>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qh0HpsupoU
15:51<ax562>I did this earlier in debian 11.
15:52<IPFreely>What servers would you recommend to run on Debian?
15:53<SubOptimal>Only the ones you need. All others should not run. ;)
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15:54<LouWestin>I run Web, ZNC, Minecraft
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15:55<ax562>LouWestin any issues with the Minecraft?
15:55<SubOptimal>Anything running, being not actively maintained by you and accessible from outsid emight become a risk. e.g. If you don't want to serve a webpage don't install a webserver.
15:55<SubOptimal>But SSH should be there, if you want to connect from remote.
15:55<LouWestin>No just I just run JDK and download the minecraft server file from Mojang's site
15:57<Wasd>What is SSH
15:57<LouWestin>Secure Shell Access
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15:58<Sqrt{not}>!ssh
15:58<dpkg>[ssh] the Secure SHell; "apt install ssh" (<openssh>). Clients for other platforms include <putty> and <cygwin>. Programs to mitigate against brute-force attacks on your SSH server include <fail2ban> and <denyhosts>. See also <scp>, <sftp>, <ssh without password>, <ssh permissions>, <sshx>, <ssh linedraw>, <debug sshd>, <dropbear>, <ssh-copy-id>, <ssh verify key>.
15:58<LouWestin>good o'le port 22
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16:04<Wasd>For what is SSH used?
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16:05<ax562>Wasd it's for encrypted communication
16:05<ax562>I scared him
16:05<IPFreely>Many things. You can view it as a 'remote' Terminal, your connection is encrypted.
16:05<IPFreely>:/
16:06<LouWestin>That's how I login remotely to my VPS's
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16:27<ottavio>Does /tmp get cleared up switching user (in gui mode) or only at reboot? (I have /tmp on /tmpfs)
16:27<ottavio>I mean /tmp on tmpfs.
16:28<sarnold>reboot
16:29<sarnold>tmpfiles.d(5) can have rules for cleaning things up in /tmp, and sometimes folks run tools that will clean up in /tmp as well
16:29<sarnold>tmpreaper
16:29<sarnold>there we go, it took a bit to recall :)
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16:32<ottavio>sarnold: cool. I didn't kown about tmpfiles.d.
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16:32<ottavio>Ok, it's a systemd thing. I retract my statement.
16:33<sarnold>you can use it outside of systemd, fwiw
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19:14<user0xF0>I got this error https://i.imgur.com/PD8R6Nb.jpg How to fix it?
19:14<sney>!ops see above
19:14<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall, bremner: sney complains about a problem (see above)
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19:15<abrotman>Do I want to?
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19:15<sney>it's not illegal etc but it's also definitely not an error message
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19:34<keycollector>Is there a way test the IOPS of a raid? Is dd the best solution?
19:34<sarnold>no
19:34<abrotman>keycollector: fio, but you'd need a baseline to compare to
19:35<abrotman>well, I guess you don't need a baseline .. but it's not going to tell you "This is a-mazing!"
19:35<sarnold>there's ~three popular tools for this, fio seems most popular, and do you think I can think of any of their names? heh
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19:37*dvs holds sarnold's feet to the fire
19:37<sarnold>bonnie and bonnie++ were the others! while looking for it I found this blog post, which isn't really about benchmarking disks, but it is quite good all the same :) http://www.brendangregg.com/ActiveBenchmarking/bonnie++.html
19:38<sarnold>dvs: that worked surprisingly well :) I'll have to keep that trick in mind..
19:39<dvs>heh
19:40<keycollector>ill give fio a try, Thanks!
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20:42<bradley>Could anyone point me to a good guide for installing debian onto a thinkpad x1? I've never had to deal with UEFI before -- if that's even the problem 😉️
20:43<bradley>I have done a search but can't seem to find anything that feels definitive
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20:43<keycollector>Are you running into a specific issue?
20:45<another>my experience says: if you can't find anything specific it's often because it is just that simple
20:45<bradley>Yes? I went into the bios and turned off secureboot then made the usb drive a boot priority. So it will recognise the usb and gets past the debian splash screen then freezes with a black screen and blinking cursor
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20:46<bradley>another: hopefully! maybe you can help?
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20:47<bradley>I tried a couple times and even a few different OS's (debian and POP) but it freezes every time
20:47<sney>bradley: make sure you created the installer usb correctly, for instance most windows tools mangle it and cause unpredictable issues
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20:48<bradley>i have been user etcher (from another device running debian)
20:48<sney>thinkpad hardware typically doesn't need any extra work for linux. even secure boot should be fine.
20:48<sney>yep, etcher is one of the problem tools
20:48<sney>!etcher
20:48<dpkg>Etcher is not a reliable way to copy Debian images for installation. Instead, use cp or dd for linux or win32diskimager for Windows. https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/ch04s03.en.html
20:48<bradley>oh yeah? it usually works great for me... what do you suggest
20:49<bradley>ok, i will check it out
20:51<bradley>that is a shame to hear... I have liked etcher for years. I will try win32diskimager
20:52<bradley>are there any apps for linux that work?
20:53<bradley>should I return my bios settings back to their defaults?
20:54<sney>like the install guide says, for linux it's best to just use cp
20:54<sney>whether secure boot is enabled or not shouldn't make a difference, so it's your choice if you want it
20:56<bradley>I am such a sucker for a slick GUI 😀️
20:56<bradley>Thanks for the help, I'll let you know how it goes
20:56<sney>then maybe you will be the person to make a gui tool that doesn't see ".iso" and interpret it as "ah, I need to unpack this image and rebuild it for flash memory"
20:57<sney>np, good luck
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23:50<archer>cant seem to understand why my ifconfig command is not found
23:51<sney>!sbin
23:51<dpkg>Some binaries, particularly system utilities are installed to /sbin or /usr/sbin rather than /bin or /usr/bin. The former directories are not in a standard user's PATH. Try calling them directly, e.g. /sbin/ifconfig, or running them as root. See also <buster su>.
23:51<archer>ty
23:51<sney>or maybe net-tools isn't installed.
23:51<archer>its installed, im gonna try the sbin route
23:52<archer>nope, no directory lulz
23:56<archer>nvm, sorry i never had to do this before to run the command here is what i got from whereis
23:56<archer>ifconfig: /usr/sbin/ifconfig /usr/share/man/man8/ifconfig.8.gz
23:56<archer>i tried running /usr/sbin/ifconfig -a no such path
23:58<archer>self correcting error, thanks for your time
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