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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-01-16

---Logopened Sat Jan 16 00:00:57 2021
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00:01-!-simonpatapon is "Simon Patapon" on #buddhism #debian-next #oftc #debian #bitlbee
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00:05-!-hele is "hele" on #debian-next #debian
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00:36-!-coruja_ is "Markus Meyer" on #frickelplatz #blobot #debian-next #debian
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00:37-!-njoseph is "Joseph Nuthalapati" on #debian-fediverse #freedombox #debian-elixir #freedombox-ci #minidebconf-online #freedombox-dev #debian-social #debian-gitlab #debian #debian-fasttrack
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00:43-!-mallio is "Rasmus Mattsson Kallio" on #debian-next #debian
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01:00-!-arunpyasi is "realname" on #packaging #minidebconf-online #debian-ubuntu #debian-meeting #debian-lts #debian #debian-deepin
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01:03-!-Jad is "Jad Madi" on #debian #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian-academy #debian-gnupg #debian-dpkg #debian-desktop #debian-privacy #debian-apt #debian-devel-changes #bash #bash-completion #debconf-fosdem #debian-gitlab #debian-i18n #debian-nonupload #debian-rant #debian-social #debian-xfce #packaging #suckless #tor-project
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01:05-!-ol is "Ol" on #debian
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01:09-!-user is "user" on #debian
01:09<user>hey mad lads
01:09<user>what's goin on
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01:10-!-naoki [~naoki@sp49-104-18-246.msf.spmode.ne.jp] has joined #debian
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01:10<Guest10586>is german preferred here? just noticed the .de
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01:11-!-bpsecret is "bpsecret" on #tor-south #tor-project #tor-l10n #tor-dev #tor-bots #subgraph #rust #redditprivacy #kandoo-iran #debian-next #debian #alpine-linux
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01:11<naoki>who are here?
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01:49-!-foka is "Anthony Fok" on #debian-edu #debian-devel-changes #debian-ci #debian #debconf18-taiwan #autodeb
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01:54-!-ensamvarg is "Adrian Immanuel Kieß" on #debian-java #debian-next #debian
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01:55-!-auzzie32 is "Austin" on #debian
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02:04-!-coruja_ is "Markus Meyer" on #frickelplatz #blobot #debian-next #debian
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02:04-!-auzzie32 is "Austin" on #debian
02:06<dave2020>Hey, I have a strange situation, I have a GNU/Linux copy of SPSS 23 (statistics software), it's simply a bin file and I've always installed using ./filename.bin in terminal without a problem. I just got a "new" (used) Thinkpad and installed Debian 10.7 x64 on it. Now for some reason after I execute the bin file the installation screen appears and mostly loads, then it logs me off and I need to sign back in. And of course nothing was installed. Any
02:06<dave2020>suggestions on how to troubleshoot this? Thanks
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02:39-!-foka is "Anthony Fok" on #debian-java #debian-i18n #debian-glibc #debian-eeepc #debian-edu #debian-devel-changes #debian-ci #debian #debconf18-taiwan #autodeb
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05:58<jar-el>Hi
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05:58<jar-el>I'm a developer from Alien Arena
05:59<jar-el>About a week ago I sent a mail regarding the outdated Alien Arena in Debian
05:59<jar-el>it's already outdated for 3 years actually
05:59<jar-el>I didn't get any reply yet
06:00<bremner>jar-el: did you file a bug with reportbug?
06:00<jar-el>no, I don't know where to report it but it's also not really a bug
06:01<jar-el>it's a very outdated version of alien arena
06:01<jar-el>in your repo it's still 7.66
06:01<bremner>yes, filing a bug is the correct procedure
06:01<jar-el>since end of 2017 this isn't supported anymore
06:01<bremner>priority wishlist
06:02<jar-el>where can I report it?
06:02<azeem>where did you send the mail to?
06:03<jar-el>to pkg-games-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org
06:03<azeem>and what is the package name for alien arena? I can't find it off-hand
06:04<jar-el>package name should be alien-arena
06:05<azeem>ah it's contrib, I guess I don't have that enabled
06:06<azeem>jar-el: there's #944264 already about 7.71.1 from november 2019, without reply :-/
06:06<judd>Bug https://bugs.debian.org/944264 in src:alien-arena (open): «alien-arena: new upstream release 7.71.1»; severity: normal; opened: 2019-11-06; last modified: 2020-08-18.
06:06<azeem>what's the current version?
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06:08<azeem>there's no version information at all on the web page AFAICT
06:09<FelixActually>azeem, would it be possible for the Alien Arena developers to take over package maintainership? If yes, how can that be done?
06:10<azeem>are you an alien arena developer?
06:10<FelixActually>jar-el is, I advised them to ask here about this
06:10<azeem>jar-el: I suggest you re-ask in #debian-games, I think the games team guys/gals hang out there
06:10<jar-el>7.71.1 is the latest indeed
06:10<azeem>ok
06:11<azeem>it might be that they don't prioritize contrib games, dunno, but in general they are pretty good about being on top of things, but might just be out of manpower
06:11<azeem>onboarding somebody during crunch time (freeze has started) will be difficult though I guess
06:12<jar-el>yes, I am an alien arena developer
06:12<jar-el>kind of the only active one
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06:13<twb>I had no idea it was still alive
06:13<jar-el>it is, but scattered players
06:13<jar-el>this is one of the reasons
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06:13<jar-el>we still see people in irc playing 7.66 but they can't play online
06:13<jar-el>because since 2017 all servers don't support this protocol anymore
06:14<azeem>:-/
06:14<FelixActually>jar-el: Try asking in #debian-games as azeem suggested, maybe they can help
06:14<jar-el>there was someone else around 2018 maybe that contacted you about this, as far as I know we never got a response
06:15<jar-el>but someone else did that at the time
06:15<jar-el>ok, thanks a lot!
06:15<azeem>apo did the last upload
06:15<azeem>he might know about the status
06:16<jar-el>is it passworded?
06:17<FelixActually>Oh, maybe you have to be registered to join that room?
06:17<azeem>no, but you have to be registered
06:17<azeem>I could test-join no problem
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06:17<jar-el>aha, ok
06:18<azeem>anyway, thanks for reaching out to us
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06:18<azeem>I guess that mailing-list is cluttered a lot with spam and automatic package mails, a single mail might get lost
06:18<azeem>I think contacting #debian-games should be better
06:20<azeem>I guess the first problem is that the watch file still points to http://icculus.org/alienarena so the automatic tracking never saw the new packages
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06:23<azeem>jar-el: so where is the source nowadays? and is http://red.planetarena.org/files/AlienArena.zip the only download?
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06:24<jar-el>that one is actually an unmaintained demo version
06:24<jar-el>btw I'm in #debian-games now
06:25<azeem>ok
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10:44<jar-el>for anyone interested, the alien arena discord server:
10:44<jar-el>https://discord.gg/Rd5fwBg
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10:53<jar-el>for the ones that hate discord, there is an irc server as well:
10:53<jar-el>irc.planetarena.org/6667, channel #alienarena or #aapub
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11:04<Celelibi>Is there a way to see which package provide a given virtual package name?
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11:07<spork89>Howdy guys. Kind of new to this; have only been using linux full time for 6 months. I'm running 10.7 with the 5.9 kernel and some proprietary drivers. I'm trying to change the background of the gnome login screen. I found my way to /etc/gdm3/greeter.dconf-defaults and while modifying some parameters seems to work (like adding, removing, or changing a welcome message) changing picture-uri and picture-options seems to do
11:07<spork89>nothing. To be clear, i'm referring to the gray login screen at the very beginning, not the lock screen shield. Not sure where I'm going wrong and the fact that changing some things in greeter.conf-defaults works and others don't is kind of confusing.
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11:18<lc>Hi
11:18<lc>Ciao
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11:22<choozy>Hi
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11:23<spork89>howdy!
11:23<senux>hey-yo
11:23<jar-el>hi
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11:41<Celelibi>Has mongodb been removed from the debian packages?
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11:51<bremner>apparently
11:51<bremner>check tracker.debian.org for more
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11:55<SubOptimal>Celelibi: Here is the reason https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=916107
11:55<judd>Bug https://bugs.debian.org/916107 in src:mongodb (closed): «mongodb: MongoDB should not be part of a stable release»; severity: serious; opened: 2018-12-10; last modified: 2020-03-23.
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11:59<Celelibi>So, basically a license change will prevent future versions from being included in debian. Got it.
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12:18<bradley>Hi, I've been trying to install debian on a thinkpad x1 gen7 with no success, the usb drive will start to load and then stop. Has anyone installed debian onto a thinkpad x1? Any advice?
12:19<bradley>I made the usb image with win32diskimager and turned secureboot off in the bios
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12:25<bradley>Does the cp method from "Preparing Files for USB Memory Stick Booting" guide: https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/ch04s03.en.html work with the live ISO and the live nonfree ISO?
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12:26<sney>it works with all debian installers
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12:28<bradley>sney: great! i tried the win32diskimager but it didn't seem to work so I will try this method... I am not hopeful that it will work but I like to be thorough :-)
12:29<bradley>if the cp doesn't work what would be the next thing to try? Are there other bios settings I should be thinking about adjusting?
12:31<sney>between win32diskimager and cp there won't be any difference. how new is gen7?
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12:34<bradley>i got it used but it is from 2020... maybe manufactured in 2019
12:34<bradley>does cp usually need sudo to work? i tried it and it said i didnt have permission
12:35<sney>you need root permission to write directly to hardware
12:36<sney>hardware from 2020 may not be supported by the stable installer, try the alpha3 from here: https://debian.org/devel/debian-installer
12:36<bradley>ok good. they guide didn't say sudo but maybe it said root above and i missed it
12:36<sney>the # prompt in the instructions refers to root. otherwise it would be $
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12:37<bradley>Whaaat! -- I had no idea, amazing
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12:38<bradley>I will check out the other installer, thanks
12:40<bradley>I am a little nervous about using an alpha... is there anything else I could try first?
12:41<bradley>And i can't tell from the list, are any of them live?
12:42<sney>none of those are live, if you actually need a live environment then there may be options... but you said you were trying to install debian. we recommend using an installer for that, not a dual purpose live image
12:43<sney>and yes, the testing installer can be broken sometimes. but I've personally used that alpha3 image and I know it works, at least virtualized, it doesn't have any world-breaking bugs
12:43<bradley>yes, I guess I've gotten used to seeing it load and then installing it.
12:43<bradley>brb
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12:50<livacious>I apologize for posting this in here but I've been watching video of someone getting hit with an Active Denial System on twitter as part of some sort of extortion scheme. If you happen to know anyone that has a friend in the American govt https://twitter.com/psaintlaurent0/status/1329514173387190280
12:50<livacious>I contacted the FBI but they sent me to their website :-/
12:51<livacious>He got a direct hit with 1900 V/m and 54uT in broad daylight
12:51<livacious>That's an insane magnetif field
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13:33<asda>Hello! How can I suggest the debian developers to add a package in the default installation?
13:37<asda>I would like a package to be added to the next debian release, if possible
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14:05<jhutchins>bradley: It's generally understood that if you're doing something that will affect the whole system (or multiple users on a multi-user system), you need root privilages.
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14:13<asda>Hello?
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14:13<asda>anyone here?
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14:14<towo`>no
14:15<bradley>that makes sense, i just think of making a usb image "copying files' but i get that it is way more than that
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14:21<levi>hey
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14:21<levi>anyone here?
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14:22<jar-el>hi
14:24<sney>!wnpp
14:24<dpkg>For information on packages which are not in Debian but you think should be, check the Work-Needing and Prospective Packages list at http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp (refinable list at http://wnpp.debian.net/). Use wnpp-alert (from the <devscripts> package) to see what packages you are using that are in need of help.
14:24<sney>asda: ^
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14:25<asda>Thank you very much! Iam looking to get bash-completion installed by default in Debian if possible
14:26<asda>sney: Thank you!
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14:26<levi>hey
14:26<levi>anyone here?
14:26<sney>!anyone
14:26<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
14:27<asda>levi: Hey!
14:27<levi>Hey
14:27<sney>asda: in that case you should probably file a wishlist bug against bash-completion, since the package is already in debian. sorry, it sounded like you were asking about unpackaged software
14:28<levi>May i ask a question not debian related but more linux related?
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14:28<asda>sney: Sorry for not being specific
14:28<sney>levi: no, #debian is for debian support.
14:28<levi>oh okay.
14:28<levi>Sorry
14:28<asda>levi: I could help you if you want
14:29<asda>levi: send me a private msg and ill see if i can help
14:29<levi>okay
14:30<asda>sney: Is there any link for that? Where can I learn more about adding bash-completion to a wshilist? Thank you
14:30<sney>!reportbug
14:30<dpkg>reportbug is used to submit bugs to the Debian <BTS>. Install reportbug, then run reportbug. See http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s04#problem-report for some general information about using reportbug and/or for <debian-installer> bug reporting. Also ask me about <report-bugs>. http://wiki.debian.org/reportbug http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting, or <reportbug MTA>
14:31<sney>"wishlist" is a bug category, the bts is the main formal way for users to communicate with package maintainers and make requests
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14:41<asda>sney: Thanks! Ill read more about it!
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14:49<asda>sney: I've been researching more about adding a package to the default debian iso and i can only find this info... where should I look now?
14:49<asda>ITP wishlist This is an Intent To Package. Please submit a package description along with copyright and URL in such a report. RFP wishlist This is a Request For Package. Someone has found an interesting piece of software and would like someone else to maintain it for Debian. Please submit a package description along with copyright and URL in such a report.
14:50<sney>asda: again, wnpp is for packages that are not already in debian. bash-completion is.
14:50<sney>,v bash-completion
14:50<judd>Package: bash-completion on amd64 -- jessie: 1:2.1-4; stretch: 1:2.1-4.3; buster: 1:2.8-6; bullseye: 1:2.11-2; sid: 1:2.11-2
14:50<sney>asda: you want to 1) install reportbug, 2) run it and select bash-completion as the package, 3) select the 'wishlist' severity, 4) type your justification and hit send.
14:51<sney>(there may be some intermediate steps, just read what it says on the screen)
14:51<asda>ok
14:51<asda>Thank you
14:51<sney>np
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16:56<n4poleon>Hello good evening
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17:08<n4poleon>I have a question, during boot of a kvm debian10.3 instance, following the procedure booting the recovery shell with init=/bin/sh doesn't work. Has something changed regarding the procedure?
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17:16<sney>n4poleon: nope, that should still work normally. make sure you put it on the correct line in the grub editor, the one beginning with 'linux'
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17:19<n4poleon>ok, yes i've tried that doesn't work for some reason. Same with /de/vdaX instead of UUID.. weird
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17:37<petn-randall>n4poleon: What happens if you do?
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17:57<n4poleon>it starts the first part and freezes before the services start
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17:58<sney>that can happen if the kernel is panicking from a specific module load, it doesn't get far enough to run init
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17:59*sney had that happen while messing with pci passthrough at one point
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18:41<n4poleon>ok thanks, have a nice evening
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19:08<bobkostik_>anybody here successfully install the kernel 5.10
19:09<bobkostik_>?
19:09<sney>on bullseye, yes
19:09<sney>,kernels
19:09<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 5.10.0-trunk-686 (5.10.2-1~exp1); sid: 5.10.0-1-686 (5.10.5-1); bullseye: 5.10.0-1-686 (5.10.4-1); buster-backports: 5.9.0-0.bpo.5-686-pae (5.9.15-1~bpo10+1); buster: 4.19.0-13-686-pae (4.19.160-2); stretch-backports: 4.19.0-0.bpo.9-686-pae (4.19.118-2+deb10u1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.19.0-0.bpo.13-686 (4.19.160-2~deb9u1); jessie-backports:
19:09<judd>4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.9.88-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 4.9.0-0.bpo.12-686 (4.9.210-1+deb9u1~deb8u1)
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20:38<tlgl^nix>hey i can't remember how to do it but i changed something in my bashrc to append text to the command line it would show the $ then below it show the time and date and say this is my usernames computerand when i would list item or run commands in bash it would randmly say this is my namecompuyter
20:38<tlgl^nix>in random locations
20:39<sney>the term you are looking for is PS1
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20:40<tlgl^nix> so ps1 \\ and i can't remember the variables i used however my memory is extremly fragmented since i almost died at the hospital and wasn't treated properly
20:42<tlgl^nix>thanks i found it on google]
20:42<sney>np, good luck
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20:48<tlgl^nix>so if i just wanted to add this is TLGLs computer would i add that after a \ and would it also just randomly add that if it was say compiling code etc i just want it so that if somebody gets my computer i wanted to add my name and my phone number to randomly haunt whoever may steal it
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23:25<kiwichap>hello
23:26<kiwichap>I am using debian now first time but I don't know anything
23:26<sney>!refcard
23:26<dpkg>A short reference of Debian commands - quite useful for someone new to Debian - can be found at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/refcard/refcard.en.pdf and packaged for Debian as debian-refcard. See also <grounding>, <vim refcard>.
23:26<sney>also see debian.org/doc and tldp.org
23:28<kiwichap>thanks I am looking at the ref card now
23:29<sney>np, any specific usage questions, feel free to ask :)
23:30<kiwichap>let's say I want to install a web browser called luakit
23:30<kiwichap>how do I do that?
23:31<sney>see the section labeled APT in the refcard, everything you need is there, for any software in the debian archive
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23:32<kiwichap>I have other issues somehow I figured out how to make the screen the proper size but when I log in with a user account it does not allow sound to work and the size is different
23:32<kiwichap>also when I logout sometimes and go back it goes back to the small screen size
23:33<kiwichap>I think I might be ok I will have to check but it's for the user account
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23:33<kiwichap>can't figure it out exactly with apt but I will try
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23:35<kiwichap>it says luakit is not findable
23:35<kiwichap>when I search via apt-file search luakit
23:36<kiwichap>I guess that's not how it's done
23:36<kiwichap>I have experience with freebsd and archlinux
23:36<kiwichap>more with freebsd
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23:38<kiwichap>I got it apt install luakit :)
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23:40<guess>hello
23:40<guess>I am here now in debian wow cool
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23:41<guess>hi
23:42<diego021>hi
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23:45<guess>hi diego how are you?
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23:50<sixpiece>how do I enable sound an a user account?
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23:52<sixpiece>I found it
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23:55<sixpiece>the audio is not working
23:56<sixpiece>for the user account
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