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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-01-17

---Logopened Sun Jan 17 00:00:58 2021
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00:05<sixpiece>I am member of audio group but sound still doesn't work
00:06<sixpiece>what do I do?
00:06<sney>on a new install, with no sound, you might have a driver problem.
00:07<sixpiece>it works as a root user
00:07<sixpiece>not as sixpiece but as root it is fine
00:08<sney>what are you doing to test
00:09<sixpiece>youtube
00:09<sney>as sixpiece, does 'aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav' work? (you may need to install alsa-utils)
00:11<sixpiece>no
00:11<sixpiece>already installed
00:11<sixpiece>it works except there's no sound
00:11<sixpiece>sorry should have clarified
00:11<sixpiece>Lecture WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Fréquence 48000 Hz, Mono
00:12<sixpiece>it doesn't seem like the correct configuration either based on the output
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00:13<sney>well, aplay talks directly to your sound driver, which should work equally as root or a user unless something very weird is happening
00:13<sney>unless you didn't log out/log back in after adding your user to the audio group.
00:13<sixpiece>there's a mute button on pulse audio I cannot unmute
00:14<sixpiece>it was always added to the audio group I believe
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00:14<sney>if it's the first user created during install then yes
00:14<sixpiece>yes
00:14<sixpiece>it's the first and only
00:15<sney>well, I can't commit any more time to troubleshooting, sorry. but I will tell you arch has some good pulse tips, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting
00:16<sney>there should be more helpers here in a timezone or two.
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00:21<sixpiece>tried everything it's funny
00:21<sixpiece>I cannot figure itout
00:21<sixpiece>thanks
00:22<sixpiece>it works just as the root user
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03:10<bobkostik>@judd && @sney thank you
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03:31<alex11>bobkostik, just FYI judd is a bot
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03:32<bobkostik>alexll damn its a good chat bot kek
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03:41<hex_>hey
03:42<hex_>i have net conectivity error here in parrot,will anyone help
03:43<ansimita>!parrot
03:43<dpkg>Parrot Linux is a distribution based on <testing> for security experts, developers and privacy aware people. It is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Support can be found in #parrotsec on Freenode or the community pages https://docs.parrotlinux.org/community. Ask me about <based on debian> and <parrot-overnight>. If you are new to linux, try using Debian: http://www.debian.org.
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04:48<cillimat>hi all
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05:13<tb2>Hi, I've got iwlwifi problem. Please help me. What should I share?
05:13<mendel_munkis>what is the problem?
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05:13<tb2>wlp4s0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
05:16<mendel_munkis>what is the output of ip a
05:17<tb2>3: wlp4s0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN group default qlen 1000
05:17<tb2> link/ether c2:e4:e4:ff:87:dd brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
05:17<tb2>I removed other devices.
05:18<tb2>I mean I just pasted the required device
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05:18<mendel_munkis>try ip link set wlp4s0 up
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05:19<tb2>I did it but noting happened. Also, it didn't show any errors or messages.
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05:20<mendel_munkis>what program are you using to try to connect?
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05:21<tb2>plasma-nm
05:22<tb2>plasma network manager
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05:23<mendel_munkis>what wifi card are you using?
05:25<tb2>Based on the producer's website it's `AzureWave Wireless LAN`
05:25<tb2>https://www.msi.com/Laptop/support/GE40-2PC-Dragon-Eyes
05:27<mendel_munkis>can you find the exact info from "lspci -vnn | grep -i net"
05:28<tb2>Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723AE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter [10ec:8723]
05:28<tb2> Subsystem: AzureWave RTL8723AE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter [1a3b:2114]
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05:31<mendel_munkis>do you have the package firmware-realtek installed? (it is in non-free)
05:32<tb2>TBH, I read the document on debian.org about iwlwifi-non-free. But, it didn't work so I think I should do some other works.
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05:32<tb2>What should I do to install it?
05:34<mendel_munkis>which package manager do you use?
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05:35<tb2>I install it via apt install firmware-realtek. Is it correct?
05:36<mendel_munkis>yess
05:37<tb2>Should I be concerned about
05:37<tb2>W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/nvidia/gv100/acr/ucode_load.bin for module nouveau
05:38<mendel_munkis>I don'tthink so.
05:38<tb2>I installed it. What would be the following up steps?
05:38<mendel_munkis>are you able to scan?
05:39<tb2>Considering the ip a the device is down
05:39<tb2>doing ip link set wl up did nothing
05:40<mendel_munkis>what happens if you try using the device from plasma-nm?
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05:40<tb2>the device is not shown in plasma-nm
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05:41<mendel_munkis>you may need to reboot in order to load the kernel module.
05:41<tb2>Ok, I do it. Thanks, I'll be back. Thank you so much.
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05:44<tb2>My wireless device worked. I can scan now. Thank you :)
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05:51<alpha-carinae>hello, can i ask gsoc-related questions here?
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05:56<FelixActually>It seems I have a problem with my mouse scroll wheel, in VLC when I scroll down it reduces the volume by 2% but when I scroll up it increases it by 1%. Not sure if that's a software bug or hardware problem
05:59<tb2>I think it relates to your VLC's settings. Check it's settings
06:00<FelixActually>The volume step is set to 2.56, which is supposed to be 1% according to a post I read online
06:02<FelixActually>And it works correctly with the Ctrl + Up and Ctrl + Down volume hotkeys
06:13<FelixActually>I think it's probably my mouse
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08:17<ottavio>As there's no irc channel for thunderbird. does anybody know how to set up a permanent header in Thunderbird?
08:18<ottavio>I have "X no-archive" coming from a drop down menu, but I want to have it set up automagically.
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08:18<ottavio>I don't even remember how I set it up in the 1st place.
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08:21<H-var>does anyone know any good drive cloning software for linux?
08:22<H-var>if I clone the whole drive, and then paste it onto a completely different computer, will linux boot up still, and work normally without any need for an interference?
08:23<ottavio>H-var: good old fashioned dd(1) ?
08:24<H-var>I realize that the drive UID should be modified in grub, but that's probably the only thing I can think of. Anything else?
08:25<H-var>what about cloning a partition on a GPT drive onto an MBR drive?
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08:29<ottavio><H-var> if I clone the whole drive, and then paste it onto a completely different computer, will linux bo >> maybe or maybe not, depends on the hardware and disk size. Usually bit for bit clones are performed on pc's that are the same.
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08:30<H-var>gparted cannot clone the encrypted drive :(
08:30<H-var>it just says the drive is unallocated
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08:31<Mister00X>H-var: What are you trying to do? Generally speaking?
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08:32<ottavio>gparted in fact does not clone. That's not what you want.
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08:32<H-var>I have a faulty mini pc, and I will be performing an exchange. The difference is big - the faulty mini pc is intel atom, and the one I'll be taking in exchange is gonna be amd ryzen
08:33<H-var>so it's a completely different hw
08:33<H-var>I wanna avoid re-installing everything
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08:33<H-var>how can I achieve that?
08:33<ottavio>Can you boot in the faulty pc? Can you run an ssh server and ssh into it? Then you can copy the bits you want.
08:34<H-var>yes, it's working. It's just locking up permanently at random times
08:34<Mister00X>H-var: reinstalling is you best option. Save your data and maybe the list of installed programms and reinstall
08:34<Mister00X>I think
08:34<H-var>I see Mister00X
08:35<Mister00X>H-var: Its the easy way
08:35<ottavio>H-var: you could make a backup of /etc and /home.
08:35<H-var>yeah, it's a good idea indeed to backup /etc as well
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08:35<H-var>thank you so much!
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08:37<ottavio>H-var: you can make a backup of some databases in /var. I would: 1) install plain debian on the good machine 2) ssh into the old machine and copy the relevant bit via scp.
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08:37<Mister00X>H-var: I know there is a way to "clone" installed packages from one system to another I just cant remember how
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08:42<ottavio>Mister00X: I wouldn't do that anyway.
08:43<Mister00X>ottavio: well yes. A fresh install without cruft is nice, but sometimes one needs the same set of packages on multiple machines
08:45<ottavio>Mister00X: yes but the op said they were going to install on a different machine.
08:45<H-var>yeah, and I need to return the old machine first
08:46<H-var>it's alright, I'll just copy the contents of /home and /etc, and just paste the stuff I need from those folders later. I think it's for the best
08:46<Mister00X>ottavio: I know I didn't mean exactly cloning. I meant sometthing like restore manual installed packages
08:47<H-var>because later, if some problems start popping out, I'll be wondering, is this because of copy pasting too much stuff onto the new machine? I would not know, so it's better to remove that variable in the first place beforehand
08:47<ottavio>H-var: don't just copy a whole set of files onto a new pc and expect it work.
08:48<ottavio>Make a backup, copy it somewhere, like ~/backups and then work out what you want.
08:49<ottavio>You might end up with config files that might confuse the OS.
08:53<H-var>meh, I only wanna take the hosts and smb.conf, that's all I really need anyways
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09:23<frukom420>sa
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09:23<frukom420>arda buradamısın looooo
09:23<bremner>!tr
09:23<dpkg>well, tr is türkçe yardIm için #debian.tr (irc.freenode.net) -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr on irc.freenode.net.
09:23<frukom420>arda
09:24<bremner>at a wild guess...
09:24<frukom420>loaaooaoao
09:24<frukom420>atmayın ABI
09:24<frukom420>:(
09:24<bremner>this is an English speaking channel. Please use English here.
09:24<frukom420>okey
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09:24<frukom420>me search my friend
09:25<frukom420>please waiting
09:25<bremner>!chat
09:25<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic (either freenode or oftc) or #moocows on irc.oftc.net, ##chat on irc.freenode.net, or search for a chat topic of your choice at https://netsplit.de/channels/
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09:30<frukom420>#exit
09:30<frukom420>how to exit channel?
09:30<frukom420>#left
09:30<frukom420>left
09:30<frukom420>exit
09:31<FelixActually>Probably /leave
09:31<blast007>or /part
09:31<frukom420>thank
09:31<dvs>!exit
09:31<dpkg>/quit you fool!
09:31<frukom420>!exit
09:31<dpkg>/quit you fool!
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09:36<ardakc>#join debian
09:36<ardakc>sa
09:36<ardakc>naber lan
09:36<frukom420>as
09:36<ardakc>anasına
09:36<ardakc>HS
09:36<ardakc>ATTIĞIM
09:36<frukom420>iyidir lan
09:36<ardakc>KENDİ ÖZEL YERİMİZİ AÇAMIYOZ MU AMK
09:36<ardakc>@HELP
09:36<frukom420>anasinin amini kfed iile şifreledıgım
09:36<ardakc>göründüğü gibi olan güçünü milletden
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09:37<ardakc>lan
09:37<frukom420>hoh
09:37<ardakc>özel yer
09:37<ardakc>aöam
09:37<ardakc>735 kişi
09:37<ardakc>var burda
09:37<frukom420>bulacam aq
09:38<ardakc>gerçi çevrımdışı
09:38<ardakc>ama neyse
09:38<ardakc>yinede açmakta fayda var aq
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09:40<frukom420>allanbım
09:41<frukom420>olmuyo
09:41<frukom420>aq
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09:42<frukom420>sen araştır
09:42<frukom420>birde
09:42<frukom420>şşşşşşşşşş
09:42<frukom420>amını kfem il
09:42<frukom420>kfs ile parçaladıgım
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09:55<zorrow>hi
09:56<zorrow>test
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09:57<bobkostik>zorrow hi
09:57<FelixActually>Test successful
09:58<zorrow>i installed virt-manager today, as I was recommended that over virtualbox
09:58<zorrow>but I can't get any network connection
10:00<bobkostik>zorrow do you have any proprietary firmware
10:00<zorrow>only intel igpu and realtek
10:00<zorrow>realtek is the network adapter
10:03<FelixActually>Try installing firmware-realtek, which is in non-free
10:03<zorrow>it is already installed, as apt was complaining about missing firmware
10:04<FelixActually>Did you restart after installing it?
10:04<zorrow>yes
10:04<FelixActually>Not sure why it wouldn't be working then, sorry :(
10:05<FelixActually>Well I'm not actually sure how network connections in virtual machines are handled, maybe it needs to be configured?
10:05<zorrow>for whatever reason, if i take the network adapter down (within the vm) he tells me he releases ip 192.168.122.xxx but i can't connect over ssh or ping out. and if i try to ifup the device, it can't reach the dhcp
10:06<bobkostik>try systemctl enable netctl systemctl start netctl
10:06<bobkostik>cd /etc/netconfig
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10:06<bobkostik>netctl enable ens5_dhcp_profile
10:06<zorrow>inside or outside the vm?
10:06<bobkostik>netctl start ens5_dhcp_profile
10:07<bobkostik>inside the v,
10:07<bobkostik>vm
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10:09<zorrow>in which package can i find netctl?
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10:11<Brigo_>,v netctl
10:11<judd>Package: netctl on amd64 -- bullseye: 1.24-1; sid: 1.24-1
10:12<Brigo_>zorrow, it is a packagas of it own, but not in stable.
10:12<zorrow>hm so how should i install that then? I am on stable
10:12<zorrow>so I can't execute those commands then
10:12<bobkostik>upgrade to bullseye
10:12<Brigo_>right, you can't
10:13<Brigo_>,checkbackports netctl
10:13<bobkostik>closed loop :(
10:13<Brigo_>,checkbackport netctl
10:13<judd>Backporting package netctl in sid→buster/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: debhelper-compat (= 13).
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10:13<zorrow>i mean, I want the vm on buster, not on testing
10:13<bobkostik>judd you fucken crazy good bot
10:14<bobkostik>zorrow yes you can use backports
10:15<zorrow>so how would i get netctl on the vm? with no way of connection?
10:15<Brigo_>zorrow, can't you manage networks with other tools?
10:16<zorrow>like which?
10:16<zorrow>i mean i can't connect an actual cable to the vm ;)
10:16<Brigo_>like networkmanager, ifdown/up, systemd-networkd
10:17<zorrow>i use ifupdown, but how would i install networkmanager or systemd-networkd without any internet
10:17<Brigo_>how do you install the vm?
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10:18<zorrow>the netinstall
10:18<zorrow>iso
10:18<Brigo_>then use the install with the packages.
10:19<zorrow>oO like how. I GOT NO INTERNET
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10:20<Brigo_>how do you get the netinstall, then?
10:20<Brigo_>get/got
10:20<zorrow>on my host system
10:20<Brigo_>there
10:20<Brigo_>http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/10.7.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/
10:20<Brigo_>3.7G
10:20<Brigo_>everything you need is there.
10:20<zorrow>why would that dvd help me out?
10:20<zorrow>i mean my host system works
10:20<zorrow>(except sound)
10:21<bobkostik>choosing beggers
10:21<zorrow>lol, figure, why would I need to install a vm with no actual hardware a firmware infested install dvd oO
10:21<Brigo_>instead a system with the bare minimun that you get with the netinstall (it is intended for installing from the net) you get a complete system running, even withot internet
10:22<zorrow>sure and then what? I still can't get an ip or route
10:23<zorrow>lets see, downloading right now
10:23<Brigo_>zorrow, sorry, i think i missunderstanded you, what do you want to accomplish?
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10:24<zorrow>have internet in my vm
10:24<Brigo_>configure it properly with the tools you already have, i would suggest.
10:25<zorrow>so auto enp1s0, iface enp1s0 inet dhcp is not enough within a vm?
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10:26<Brigo_>zorrow, i would say it is, but it depends in the vm system you are using, maybe the host needs some configuration too.
10:26<zorrow>i mean today in the morning it worked
10:26<zorrow>left my pc, came back and boom no internet
10:26<Brigo_>with virtualbox it should work, with lxc maybe not.
10:27<zorrow>idk, i moved to virt-manager because of the better integration
10:27<Brigo_>if the vm is saying there is no connection i will blame the vm manager or the host configuration.
10:27*dvs wonders why people recommends the DVD over the CD
10:27<Brigo_>dvs, it is the first i found :)
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10:28<zorrow>Brigo_ so i guess linux can change configs while the pc is turned off? great
10:28<dvs>But the DVD sets up the repo for the DVD only
10:28<dvs>and not the online one
10:28<zorrow>because a few hours ago it still worked
10:28<zorrow>and I installed the host yesterday
10:29<Brigo_>zorrow, i have never used virt-manager, so i can't tell about that.
10:29<zorrow>am gone for a bit :/ will report back after I installed a fresh vm with nm installed
10:30<Brigo_>zorrow, maybe something went wrong when the system woke up.
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10:41<fhasfhal>testing
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11:06<javitovar>Buen día. Primera vez que uso este sistema para solicitar colaboración.. Alguien por aca
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11:13<bremner>!es
11:13<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat. - https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/
11:14<bremner>err. Or did I mix up pt and es again.
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11:14<bremner>!br
11:14<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br on irc.oftc.net (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. - https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-portuguese/
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12:39<razer>Does anyone know about the steam package directly from valve vs. the debian repository one?
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12:39<petn-randall>!anyone
12:39<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
12:39<maxrazer>What is the difference, or recommended etc.
12:40<petn-randall>maxrazer: I'd assume that the Debian one will follow Debian packaging guidelines, while the one from steam might not.
12:40<petn-randall>So I'd go with the Debian one unless you find a good reason to pick the other one.
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12:41<maxrazer>ok
12:42<maxrazer>I had to install libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386, which the wiki doesn't seem to mention.
12:43<maxrazer>I remember it telling me to install a 32 bit library there before, but I just see these now mesa-vulkan-drivers libglx-mesa0:i386 mesa-vulkan-drivers:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri:i386
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12:43<maxrazer>I guess that is because I have nvidia proprietary driver. But, I don't remember doing anything not listed on the main wiki page before.
12:45<petn-randall>maxrazer: The Debian package should depend on everything it needs. Can't say about the upstream one.
12:45<maxrazer>It looks like you click a link to the multiarch NVIDIA driver libraries guide, which says to install "sudo apt install nvidia-driver-libs:i386". I think that is a change to the wiki page.
12:46<maxrazer>I plan to use AMD for my next GPU for better Linux support and performance.
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14:15<radzio>Hi! Does anyone have any experience with retrieving deleted files from a connected android phone? I'm trying to help my dad with recovering lost photos, I'v used testdisk/photorec and also tried foremost. In case of testdisk I have an issue with detecting any drives in the application. I'd appreciate any help as I feel stuck and don't know how to solve the issue.
14:18<sney>photorec is pretty much the recommendation you'll get here, though I think mtp and probably android are working against you
14:18<radzio>I'm still a newbie if it comes to linux and still have no full grasp of how mounting filesystems work, but from what I've read there is a difference between normal storage devices like usb sticks and an android phone which uses mtp
14:18<radzio>yeah, exactly
14:20<radzio>i've managed to mount (or at least I think I did) the phone using jmtpfs
14:20<sney>for photorec to have a chance of success it's best to give it direct access to the filesystem it's recovering. and it's best if that's not also the filesystem that your OS is currently using.
14:21<sney>so if it were me, I'd probably try to get a minimal shell on the phone, and back up a copy of the filesystem itself to an image on the pc or some network drive, and then do photorec operations on that image
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14:21<radzio>how could I do such an image?
14:22<demo_>hi guys! runing MX 32 bit from USB! amazing distro !!!!
14:22<sney>!mxlinux
14:22<dpkg>MX Linux is a popular distribution <based on debian>. It is not supported in #debian. Support is available on their forum: https://forum.mxlinux.org/. It is related to <antix>. If you are new to linux, or want a distro with IRC support, try Debian instead: https://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian
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14:24<sney>broadly, from the shell on the phone, figure out the device that's mounted as the partition you want to recover, mount a target volume to another arbitrary dir on the phone, then dd if=/dev/whatever of=/mnt/remote/filesystem.img bs=4M, wait for it to finish, and proceed with photorec on filesystem.img
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14:25<sney>if this is confusing, look at the online documentation. 'info dd' will explain dd pretty clearly, most commands you will use are documented in info or man (or both)
14:26<radzio>oh cool! I've used dd already while making an image to make a boot installer, so I'm glad it's something I'm familiar with!
14:26<radzio>I wonder if I need a rooted phone to make it into a shell mode?
14:26<radzio>because I doubt my dad's phone is rooted
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14:27<sney>that will depend on your android variant, vendor, etc. you should be able to read from a device without root, but there's too many androids to say for sure
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14:28<blast007>radzio: haven't used this myself, but: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.defianttech.diskdigger
14:29<blast007>(and some more information about it here: https://diskdigger.org/android )
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14:33<radzio>@blast007 thanks I'll check it out. First thing we tried was using an android app to recover photos and we managed to retrieve some, but not all of the photos.
14:33<radzio>but we didn't use this one
14:33<radzio>@sney is it possible to use dd from phone to make an image on external file system?
14:36<sney>should be
14:36<radzio>oh! it seems that DiskDigger found more images than the previous app!
14:36<sney>also fyi,
14:36<sney>!mentions
14:36<dpkg>'@name' style mentions, common on social media and newer chat platforms, are not part of IRC. Most IRC clients ignore this kind of highlight. If you want to get someone's attention on IRC, don't @ them, simply type their nick at the beginning of the line.
14:40<radzio>sney Thanks!
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14:40<sney>np
14:42<radzio>I see that the images DiskDigger found were thumbnails of the lost photos. There's also a message, that a root may be needed to use it to full extent
14:42<radzio>Is it very hard/invasive to root the phone?
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14:43<sney>that will depend on your android variant, vendor, etc. some are easy, some are impossible, google can tell you better than #debian can
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14:45<Drew_Swissroll>oops
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14:46<radzio>thanks a lot, now I don't feel stuck as before!
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14:47<blast007>note that the more you have to install or change, the less chance of recovery since you might be overwriting the data
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14:52<radzio>blast007: yeah, I hope it didn't get overwritten yet :(
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14:54<radzio>fortunately the storage isn't almost full, so I guess there's higher probability there's still a lot of data to be saved
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15:25<Brian>I am having difficulty reformating an ecrypted drive. I cannot recall the encryption key so I want to wipe it...
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15:26<Brian>But none of the tools will allow me to reformat it. In the file Manager I can see the drive but I cannot mount it obviously.
15:27<Brian>In GParted, I cannot even see the drive as available.
15:27<Brian>What do I do?
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15:34<butthead_>Brian: I once had the same problem, I have to first zero the drive using dd, and then format it. It worked for me, but that was a few years ago.
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15:45<jhutchins>Brian: gdisk? fdisk? sfdisk?
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15:45<jhutchins>Brian: I think your GUI is getting in the way.
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15:46<jhutchins>Brian: Also, consider booting to a live disk or something external.
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15:46<jhutchins>Brian: You might see if you can delete the partition. Create a new one and format that.
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16:00<Brian>$ sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1
16:00<Brian>dd: error writing '/dev/sdb': No space left on device
16:00<Brian>1+0 records in
16:00<Brian>0+0 records out
16:00<Brian>0 bytes copied, 8.8435e-05 s, 0.0 kB/s
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16:06<Brian>oops got booted for posting my terminal output
16:07<Brian>as you see dd did not work ...
16:07<bremner>!paste
16:07<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: https://paste.debian.net | pics/screenshots: https://imgbb.com/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): https://filebin.net or https://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <termbin>.
16:07<bremner>are you sure that's the right device?
16:08<Brian>yup
16:08<Brian>fdisk doesn't find it at all (fdisk -l)
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16:08<bremner>so, that doesn't seem "sure" to me.
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16:08<bremner>how about lsusb?
16:08<bremner>or what kind of device is it?
16:09<Brian>lshw -class disk .... is the only tool that works.
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16:10<Brian>It's a Seagate HD sitting in my USB hard drive mounting case.
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16:11<Brian>https://paste.debian.net/1181545/
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16:12<rudi_s>Brian: Try lsblk, if it's not there you cannot write to it.
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16:14<Sqrt{not}>it looks like your paste shows the seagate as /dev/sdc
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16:14<Brian>No that's the USB hard drive from Seagate. The one I want is the one in the Sabian USB HD mounter.
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16:15<Gabxred>hi
16:16<Gabxred>how to install minecraft?
16:16<Gabxred>xd
16:16<Brian>It's in a docking station by Sabrent.
16:16<Brian>https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LS5NFQ2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
16:17<bremner>so what about sdb?
16:17<bremner>is that a different disk in the same mounter?
16:17<Brian>lsblk does not show the drive, but lshw -class disk does ...
16:18<Brian>sdb is the disk I want to reformat
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16:20<Sqrt{not}>did you try: sudo fdisk /dev/sdb
16:21<Brian>it says "fdisk: cannot open /dev/sdb: No such file or directory
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16:30<Sqrt{not}>my guess is the GUI tools, and DE file manager, and whatever automounters, might be getting in your way. you could try rebooting with init=/bin/bash at the end of the command line, so come up in as simple an environment as possible, and try to work on it there
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16:32<jhutchins>It's also possible that there is more going on here than a missing encryption password.
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16:35<Sqrt{not}>^^ what jhutchins said. maybe you could try looking at that disk with smartctl ?
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17:58<perryboy>Sleeping?
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17:59<perryboy>Anybody?
17:59<jmcnaught>Hi perryboy do you have a Debian question?
18:00<perryboy>Yeah actually I do. That's the reason I've come here
18:01<azeem>!ask
18:01<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ See <smart questions><errors>.
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18:03<perryboy>I got a problem with Wireless mouse. Bluetooth doesn't show it in the list of available devices. So I'm unable to pair the mouse with my laptop.
18:04<perryboy>It's sorta weird. Cuz I tried the same in OpenSUSE and it's working
18:06<perryboy>Used Distro: Parrot OS 4.10 Debian-based(Buster 10). Kernel version: 5.9.0-amd64
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18:09<petn-randall>!parrot
18:09<dpkg>Parrot Linux is a distribution based on <testing> for security experts, developers and privacy aware people. It is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Support can be found in #parrotsec on Freenode or the community pages https://docs.parrotlinux.org/community. Ask me about <based on debian> and <parrot-overnight>. If you are new to linux, try using Debian: http://www.debian.org.
18:09<petn-randall>perryboy: That would be your place to ask. ^^^
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20:07<alex11>do irc clients in debian stable (which are older) have plans to backport ircv3 features or something?
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20:10<petn-randall>alex11: What are ircv3 features supposed to be?
20:10<alex11>https://ircv3.net/irc/ apparently these
20:10<alex11>not that i *need* them, just a general curiosity
20:11*dvs waits for the VR release
20:14<petn-randall>alex11: We'll have to see if this actually goes anywhere. But *if* the need arises there'll likely be updated clients in the backports repo.
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20:20<alex11>"We intend for all the specs we put out to be backwards-compatible. In other words, if an old client connects to a server that supports IRCv3 extensions, that old client should work without an issue. Likewise, if a new client connects to a server that doesn’t support IRCv3 it’ll work fine (just without some of the new features that IRCv3 allows)."
20:20<alex11>welp
20:20<alex11>it helps to actually read
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20:20<petn-randall>I would expect backwards-compatability to be a given. Otherwise the spec would be dead.
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21:07<Guest10717>Hi lovely debian irc channel.
21:07<Guest10717>It would be possible to get some updated info about bullseye, I've just upgraded my laptop from 10/buster
21:09<Guest10717>After upgrading, I've noticed some bad news, for some reason the ' dpm_power' managemente has change.
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21:10<Guest10717>My laptop work perfect with buster at 433MHZ gpu memory on battery, but now the gpu it is in no-way under 1200MHZ !!
21:11<Guest10717>1200MHZ gpu mclock for reading a pdf. What could be changing o causing this behaviour on gpu ?
21:11<Guest10717>It is a amd ryzen 5 apu. Vega 8.
21:12<Guest10717>only 4 battery hours on Bullseye (second time install) / 8 hours on Buster
21:12<Guest10717>🤔️
21:12<Guest10717>Thank you
21:12<Guest10717>IDENTIFY
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21:19<petn-randall>!debian-next
21:19<dpkg>#debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. See also https://wiki.debian.org/IRC and https://wiki.debian.org/GettingHelpOnIrc
21:19<petn-randall>Guest10717: ^
21:19<petn-randall>Guest10717: Let's continue the support question there.
21:19<Guest10717>Ok- Thank you.
21:20<petn-randall>You will also need to re-ask there for context, so other people can join the conversation.
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