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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-01-20

---Logopened Wed Jan 20 00:00:02 2021
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00:05-!-ChubaDuba is "ChubaDuba" on #debian #debian-devel-changes
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00:14<rnm>do reportbug package need to be configure? let set email address etc
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00:24<koolkat332>rnm probably , also I was wrong the organization only makes 2 million per year that is relatively little
00:25<koolkat332>rnm I thought it was like wikipedia or something when I saw them advertising with Amazon I thought they were in on it
00:27<koolkat332>rnm for as big as they are and for the impact they have had
00:28<koolkat332>rnm they might be auto config I am not sure good question
00:29<koolkat332>rnm but even if it's for apple you might want to decide what you report etc.. so in Apple it requires configuration of some sort
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00:48<rnm>I able to config it. the package know that I ran for first time and ask me for details
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01:16<Bugarin>hello
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02:57<BeefStew>How is everyone?
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03:14<Yanteng>hello world!
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03:15<Yanteng>I am a newbaby!
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03:38<rnm>!chat
03:38<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic (either freenode or oftc) or #moocows on irc.oftc.net, ##chat on irc.freenode.net, or search for a chat topic of your choice at https://netsplit.de/channels/
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03:46<rosac>f
03:46<rosac>hi
03:46<rosac>hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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03:47<skynet_>what is wrong with you?
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06:02<FelixActually>If I do "sudo apt install -t buster-backports minetest", it'll pull in minetest-data from buster-backports too, right?
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06:05<skynet_>sudo apt -t buster-backports install minetest
06:05<skynet_>is probably the correct way
06:06<skynet_>and make sure you have buster-backports in your sources.list
06:06<FelixActually>But will it pull in minetest-data from buster-backports automatically?
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06:11<bremner>it should.
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06:11<FelixActually>Thanks
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07:13<blohsh_>how can i install recommended drivers in debian 10 lxle
07:14<blohsh_>and there is no command lspci?
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07:16<Anarka>its part of pciutils
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07:20<Anarka>recomended drivers... if everything works you're done. if it's a newer device and some components need newer drivers/firmware you need backports
07:22<blohsh_>Anarka: i just downloaded debian i need broadcom wifi driver
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07:33<grove>!broadcom
07:33<dpkg>Broadcom Corporation is an integrated circuits supplier. For wireless LAN chipset drivers, ask me about <b43>, <brcmsmac>, <rndis_wlan>, <wl>. For Ethernet controller support, ask me about <bnx2>, <bnx2x>, <tg3>. For hybrid Bluetooth firmware not available elsewhere ask me about <bcmhybridbt>.
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07:37<skynet_>ok so here
07:37<skynet_>I'm trying to install hplip on Debian 10.7
07:37<skynet_>the .run file doesnt work
07:37<skynet_>wrong dependencies
07:38<skynet_>installing hplip and hplip-gui from the official repo also doesnt work
07:38<skynet_>im really stuck
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07:46<Anarka>suppose you already tried the pkg present in debian ?
07:47<Anarka>apt install hplip
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08:30<bremner>other than /home, where are conventional places to mount special purpose user-writable directories. I can always create something in /, but I wondered if there is some convention along the lines of /srv.
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08:36<bremner>I guess /srv/special-disk is OK
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08:43<skynet_>Anarka I did install hplip and hplip-gui from debian official repos
08:44<Mister00X>bremner: I have asked this myself many times, and allways used directories in /home for it. It appears that there is no convention for it
08:46<Anarka>i usually go for /media or /mnt since they are not really used these days
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08:46<Mister00X>Anarka: /media is used for removable media
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08:47<Anarka>not much of that these days, much less in servers. in my experience
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08:49<Mister00X>Anarka: In that case we have different experiences. Because if I plug a usb stick into my computer it is mounted to /media/$user/LABEL
08:50<Mister00X>by default
08:50<bremner>yes, but how often do you plug a usb stick into a server?
08:50<Anarka>yes it is, but then go for the legacy /mnt
08:50<Mister00X>okay I see your point
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08:54<zoke>bremner: there is no convention since it would depend on the exact usage of the disk/partition/volume
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08:57<zoke>https://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_3.0/fhs-3.0.pdf <- I usually check there when trying trying to descide where things should go
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09:57<petn-randall>FelixActually: yes.
09:57<petn-randall>Woops, stuck in backlog again.
09:57<FelixActually>Happens to the best of us :)
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13:00<Celelibi>I was wondering something. When the BTS reads the "thanks" command, does it it have to be "thanks" on the whole line, or can it have more stuff afterwards?
13:01<bugwux>hi
13:01<bugwux>sa
13:01<bugwux>hello
13:01<bugwux>hola
13:01<bugwux>ne isterseniz var
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13:01<petn-randall>hi bugwux, do you have a Debian support question?
13:02<petn-randall>!tr
13:02<dpkg>hmm... tr is türkçe yardIm için #debian.tr (irc.freenode.net) -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr on irc.freenode.net.
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13:34<keycollector>Any tips on how to impove nfs4 speed? Its directly over localhost to a vm, but only getting 5-10MB/s
13:37<esum>You can try to increase the mtu of your interfaces
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13:38<sney>also make sure you're using virtio as opposed to any of the emulated hardware nics
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13:42<dan4x>what is this? :D
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13:51<keycollector>sney: Is that the device module? e1000e vs virtio?
13:51<alex11>hi dan4x this is a channel for debian support/questions
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13:53<esum>e1000 is an emulated intel e1000 iirc
13:53<esum>virtio is what you want to use
13:53<keycollector>Great, changing them now and rebooting the VM's, i was on e1000e, by default.
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14:22<keycollector>MTU for interfaces are at 1500, which i assume is default. the options for the nfs mount are just _netdev,auto . Any additional i could add to increase speed?
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14:24<keycollector>Running speedtests for the VM saturates my Gigabit line. Writing to the actual mount on the metal host, not via nfs, yeilds ~ 1,250MB/s. Having it mounted via nfs4 in my VM, which accesses the mount over localhost, is still less than 10MB/s.
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14:24<keycollector>Ill keep troubleshooting, but let me know if any ideas... virtio did help a little bit, but not the main issue here
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14:29<esum>You can try setting your mtu to a higher value such as 9000
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14:31<esum>You can also try changeing the rsize and wsize mount options
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14:32<keycollector>Okay, thanks, ill look into modifiying these and see if i can get improvements
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19:38<skynet_>anyone successfully installing hplip on Debian 10.7?
19:38<skynet_>i cant get it to work
19:39<sarnold>what errors do you get?
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20:42<jayjo>Is there a way to use `reprepro` as a way to mirror only specific packages, and not just a whole distribution?
20:44<abrotman>jayjo: is an apt cacher not sufficient for your use cases?
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20:48<jayjo>My use case is to install a few packages offline (libvirt and others), so I've been downloading all the deb's like https://stackoverflow.com/a/41428445
20:48<jayjo>I was hoping reprepro could help in keeping those packages up to date
20:49<jayjo>Maybe there is a better tool
20:49<imMute>apt-offline maybe?
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20:53<sarnold>aptly perhaps?
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20:58<philliphaydon>hello, is this the right place to ask questions/help?
20:59<skynet_>yes
20:59<dvs>dependswhat it's about
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21:02<philliphaydon>been using debian in virtualbox for couple of months and wanna install it on my computer... except :( when i try to run the installer
21:02<philliphaydon>https://imgur.com/a/1koLi2i
21:02<philliphaydon>i get this...
21:02<philliphaydon>(same computer running kubuntu > virtualbox > debian 10.7)
21:02<philliphaydon>im a bit lost :(
21:02<skynet_>looks like your GUI is a bit f up
21:03<skynet_>so your iso
21:03<skynet_>did you download the free iso
21:03<skynet_>or the non-free iso?
21:03<skynet_>those two make a big difference on whether it will work or not
21:03<philliphaydon>i've tried the net free and net non-free
21:03<skynet_>dont choose net
21:03<philliphaydon>both result in the same thing
21:03<skynet_>use the offline installer
21:04<philliphaydon>ok, ill give that a go, should i do offline free or non-free, hardward is pretty modern, AMD 3700x / 5700XT
21:04<skynet_>offline non-free
21:05<skynet_>so its best to use a USB 3.0
21:05<skynet_>if your pc has USB 3.0 ports
21:05<skynet_>dont use 2.0 it may cause problems
21:06<skynet_>and remember to plug the USB 3.0 into a 3.0 port
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21:08<blast007>Debian 10 might not support the 5700 XT
21:08<blast007>at least not with the standard kernel/firmware
21:08<blast007>are you using text mode installer or the graphical installer?
21:08<philliphaydon>that UI actually happens with both GUI and text mode
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21:18<blast007>sounds like you'd need at least the buster-backports versions of linux-image-amd64 and firmware-linux-nonfree (which should also pull in firmware-amd-graphics), but I'm not sure what to do about the installer issue
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21:23<sney>probably either install buster using debootstrap from some other working live env, or install bullseye instead
21:27<alex11>is it possible to create a tar archive of a directory you already created one for where only the updated/new files are updated?
21:28<alex11>if that isn't super unclear
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21:29<philliphaydon>currently downloading the iso from https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.7.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/ to burn to usb
21:29<philliphaydon>burn to usb? i need coffee
21:32<sney>alex11: yep, tar uf instead of tar cf
21:32<sney>unless I have your question backwards, but tar is pretty flexible, I'm sure whatever it is is possible
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21:48<skynet_>philliphaydon, yes
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21:54<philliphaydon>ok usb stick created, time to go test it out
21:54<philliphaydon>fingers crossed
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22:47<philliphaydon>:( no luck, tried the latest daily build and same issue, guess it just hates my gfx card :'( still waiting for rtx 3080 to be in stock
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22:49<Sqrt{not}>philliphaydon, a long shot, but let me ask how did you create your usb sticks ?
22:50<philliphaydon>using rufus on windows, because 'startup disk creator' in kubuntu doesn't appear to work for debian (works fine for ubuntu)
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22:51<philliphaydon>so it boots up, i select install, or install with gui, and both just lead to that corrupted screen
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22:51<philliphaydon>i tried different usb stick too
22:51<philliphaydon>the installer /works/ cos i can see the selected option change as i arrow up/down, it just doesn't display
22:52<Sqrt{not}>in rufus, there is an option just before the write, to use "DD mode" or "ISO mode" you MUST use DD mode
22:52<sarnold>usually debian / ubuntu / etc installers can be written to usb sticks with dd, and depending upon how new your linux is, with cp
22:52<philliphaydon>oh
22:52<sarnold>rufus does funny stuff to try to make isos boot on usb -- but most linux folks already went to that trouble for you
22:52<Guest10994>hi, does anyone know how using a VPN works on debian? specifically: how do you know whether applications are exclusively using the tun/tap interface the VPN creates? (and not a regular eth0 interface)
22:53<philliphaydon>i've always used iso mode because i've 1) never had issues and 2) it says recommended :D
22:53<Sqrt{not}>philliphaydon, iso mode works for some distros, but does NOT work for debian' "hybrid" images
22:54<Sqrt{not}>but, you can also use dd or cp in a linux environment. that works too (remember to sync after)
22:54<philliphaydon>noted, creating new usb stick with DD now
22:55<Sqrt{not}>if dd-ing or cp-ing in linux, be sure to write to the root of the stick , like /dev/sdc not /dev/sdc1
22:55*Sqrt{not} crossing fingers..... rufus is usually OK if you do the DD mode
22:57<another>tip: use /dev/disk/by-id/... for extra safety against typos
22:57<philliphaydon>im hoping with debian i can go back to gnome and not deal with ubuntu's screen flickering which i can't solve
22:58<another>Guest10994: if the application doesn't bind to the interface, regular routing applies
22:58<Guest10994>another: that's my worry, how do you ensure the application uses the tun/tap interface?
22:59<philliphaydon>https://imgur.com/a/Yfs4cXb < this is what ubuntu does on a clean install, it happens due to having 2 monitors, yet doesn't happen with any other ubuntu distro or arch distro
22:59<another>Guest10994: you can put it in a separate network namespace
23:00<Guest10994>wow, that's interesting
23:00<another>and either put the tun/tap in the netns or route the traffic from there accordingly
23:00<Guest10994>is that a common thing to do? network namespace a process?
23:01<another>seems so, with all the container stuff recently
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23:02<Guest10994>I assumed you meant only netns - but a container might work too..
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23:02<philliphaydon>right, usb created, time to try again :D thanks
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23:02<another>you don't need a container for this
23:03<Guest10994>as long as I don't need to run GUI applications in the container - unless people have figured out how to run wayland clients in containers?
23:04<Guest10994>another: yes, a container is overkill - but it does give a higher assurance that the process cant see the hosts eth0/wlan0 etc, right?
23:05<another>that's what the namespace is for
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23:30<philliphaydon>omg, i got it installed, but, differently
23:31<philliphaydon>so using DD mode resulted in the same issue, corrupted installer screen :(
23:32<philliphaydon>so i made a usb stick with the non-free live image of 10.7 with gnome, which booted up, then used the installer in there which worked fine, rebooted and im in!
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23:37<sarnold>philliphaydon: yay!
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23:44<philliphaydon>nice, almost everything works
23:45<philliphaydon>(the only thing not working is its not detecting the 2nd monitor) but everything else works flawlessly!
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