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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-01-23

---Logopened Sat Jan 23 00:00:07 2021
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01:56<rathdome>Hello guys I am trying to set up an external monitor with with bumblebee system. Can this be done now? Its been years now - surely it's supported now?
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03:00<mirko>i'm lost as how lvm VGs are activated during the boot process. my system relevant data is not on an LVM (just LVs with data), so I assume initramfs is not responsible. should it be `/sbin/lvm vgchange --monitor y` as part of "/etc/systemd/system/sysinit.target.wants/lvm2-monitor.service"? because that doesn't do anything for me..
03:01<ronoaldo>I'm trying to upgrade to testing and got an issue with libc6-dev somehow ... libc6-dev : Breaks: libgcc-8-dev (< 8.4.0-2~) but 8.3.0-6 is to be installed
03:02<sney>ronoaldo: apt full-upgrade libgcc1-
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03:11<ronoaldo>sney: thanks! the `libgcc1-` part prevents the package to be upgraded? just to understand the syntax. this still tries to remove some other packages, like fuse and some kde stuff...
03:12<sney>it removes that package, allowing it to be replaced by the new package that provides 'libgcc1'. it's a problem that was introduced with gcc10 and should be fixed during the freeze
03:13<sney>and yes, upgrades from one debian release to another will sometimes remove things.
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03:13<ronoaldo>got it!
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05:35<annomy_>help
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05:35<annomy_>is anyone here ?
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05:36<annomy_>hello
05:36<annomy_>I need support :(
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05:39<annomy>anyone here please help
05:39<annomy>:(
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05:40<annomy>???
05:40<annomy>exut
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05:41<john>yup
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06:49<Tech49>blast007, I installed the firmware-iwlwifi from the page: https://packages.debian.org/buster-backports/kernel/
06:49<Tech49>So, it was from buster-backports
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06:51<Tech49>But reading back, I didn't install the linux-image-amd64 yet
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08:39<cwolf>Hi everyone. Can someone help me? Having an issue with resuming from Suspend. Since I installed nvidia-driver, I think. I'm really sad because I like to Suspend the computer for it to rest, and only Shut Down at the end of the day. Now this is ruining my workflow. I think maybe uninstalling nvidia-driver and reactivating nouveau. What you think?
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10:44<Sqrt{not}>Tech49, (not sure about the full backstory here, but) in general the kernel modules will try to load a specific version number of firmware into the device, so sometimes it won't be found if the firmware package comes from a different kernel version
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11:02<Brigo>is anyone maintaining judd?
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11:06<Sqrt{not}>hi pardus
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11:35<MrMalware>hi
11:35<MrMalware>any one here
11:35<MrMalware>??
11:35<MrMalware>from debain group
11:35<bremner>!ask
11:35<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ See <smart questions><errors>.
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11:36<MrMalware>how to install ThunderBird on debain ?
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11:37<dpkg>Another happy customer leaves the building.
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12:27<ckosloff>I want to install Russian keyboard, using Debain 10, KDE desktop, but it is not available in Languages, how come?
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12:46<Brigo>,v task-russian-kde-desktop
12:46<judd>Package: task-russian-kde-desktop on amd64 -- jessie: 3.31+deb8u1; stretch: 3.39; buster: 3.53; bullseye: 3.63; sid: 3.63
12:46<Brigo>ckosloff, it looks like it is there
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13:17<rdorsch>I get on a bullseye installer for amd64 "No kernel modules found". Is the installer currently broken?
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13:18<rdorsch>both for daily and weekly snapshot
13:19<rdorsch>The old alpha3 seems to work :-)
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13:20<ckosloff>Brigo: just installed package, but Russian does not show in Languages
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13:23<ckosloff>Brigo: now rebooting to see if package will install Russian language
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13:31<Tech49>Sqrt{not}, thanks for your reply. I was trying to install Debian on my new pc, but it doesn't have the drivers for the network adapters (not wifi, not LAN)
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13:34<Tech49>It has an onboard Intel AX200 NIC which is giving me headaches and the RTL8152B is also giving me trouble
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13:39<jhutchins>!ax200
13:39<jhutchins>!firmware
13:39<dpkg>Firmware is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace, notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware
13:39<sney>with hardware that new, installing testing is probably the smoothest option (use alpha3 not a daily)
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13:40<jhutchins>Tech49: Ah, I see you already handled the firmware.
13:41<sney>there is no testing installer with firmware yet but you can feed it to the installer separately, or use the alpha3 dvd1 and install the firmware after
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13:45<Futured>Hey!
13:45<sney>hi
13:45<crypd>Hey
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13:46<Futured>I just register on a IRC
13:46<Futured>And connect to debian chanel
13:47<sney>yes you did. do you need help with debian?
13:48<Futured>not
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13:49<zleap>welcome Futured
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13:56<jhutchins>Futured: This is the support channel, general chat is in #debian-offtopic (and others).
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14:52<Tech49>jhutchins, I did do the firmware thing, but after everything it won't boot. No errors pertaining to the NICs, but at some point it just stops. CTRL-ALT-F1 doesn't do anything either
14:52<Tech49>I don't know what to do now
14:52<Tech49>Well, perhaps install alpha3
14:52<sney>Tech49: are you still trying to install buster? have you tried with bullseye instead? e.g. https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/bullseye_di_alpha3/amd64/iso-dvd/
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14:58<Tech49>sney, yes, I'm still trying with buster
15:00<sney>with new hardware, you will generally have a better time with bullseye imo
15:02<Tech49>sney, probably, but won't it be less stable and secure?
15:04<sney>not exactly, depends on your use case. packages in sid/testing get pretty frequent uploads, so even though they aren't managed directly by the security team, they're still getting security fixes from upstream.
15:04<sney>and we're in the freeze right now, so stability is pretty good, more so than some distros' actual releases
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15:06<Tech49>Okay, thanks for that. I will give it a try
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15:07<sney>np
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15:13<Sqrt{not}>Tech49, is it the installer that won't boot, or is it the installed image ?
15:14<sney>the installed system
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15:16<Tech49>Sqrt{not}, the installed system indeed
15:17<Tech49>I've upgraded to the backports kernel, installed the iwlwifi backports package and the realtek package from backports and then it won't boot completely
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15:21<Tech49>Sqrt{not}, when I boot into recovery mode, it gets to trying to use the swap and that was it
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15:21<Tech49>Could that be an issue>
15:22<sney>probably unrelated unless there's a problem with the disk, in which case the same thing will happen when you try to install bullseye
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15:23<sney>I also wonder since the hardware is so new, if buster/buster-bpo was missing video support, and the black screen was due to kms trying to set an incompatible video mode
15:25<Tech49>It will boot into the original kernel
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15:29<Sqrt{not}>when you boot into the original kernel, is the swap OK ?
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15:34<jhutchins>Tech49: Did you try booting to multiuser.target? That would eliminate the GUI, which is often where things hang.
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15:34<jhutchins>Tech49: Oh, there have been several typs of systems that won't boot with the recent backport kernels.
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16:18<Mister00X>I have a question about the debian installer. Does the debian installer have an oem install feature like the ubuntu one have?
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16:26<Sqrt{not}>Mister00X, Not sure I understand the question. I got a Dell machine which came with an ubuntu installer, on an EFI partition -- I just ignored that installer (but kept it there) and used the regular debian installer. it worked fine.
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16:27<Mister00X>Sqrt{not}: AFAIK ubuntu has an oem mode where the install is performed as a temporary user and on first reboot you will be asked for username and password
16:28<Mister00X>I would like to do the same with debian once I resell my laptop
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16:30<Sqrt{not}>ahh, that would be nifty! I don't know how off the top of my head though
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16:37<towo`>the debian installer does not have such oem install feature
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16:38<Mister00X>Too bad that would've been nice
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16:44<Elwood_Soup>Does anyone know why I suddenly started getting this output when running 'apt update'?
16:44<Elwood_Soup>https://paste.debian.net/1182444/
16:44<Elwood_Soup>I installed fine and have run apt update successfully before
16:44<Elwood_Soup>none of the solutions I found from googling seemed to work
16:44<Fraggle2>under gnome: how do I refresh .desktop starters in .local
16:44<Fraggle2>update-menus does not seem to help
16:45<Fraggle2>(without logging out)
16:45<Mister00X>Elwood_Soup: could you paste the output of apt policy please
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16:47<Brigo>Mister00X, check https://fai-project.org/FAIme/
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16:47<Elwood_Soup>Mister00X https://paste.debian.net/1182454/
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16:48<Fraggle2>"update-desktop-database .local/share/applications/" did the trick.
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16:49<Mister00X>Brigo: thanks I'll have a look at it
16:49<jhutchins>Mister00X: You might be able to disect the Ubuntu installer and figure out what it's doing (and ask about it).
16:50<jhutchins>Mister00X: Easy way out: Don't create a user. You're going to give them the root password anyway. Or if root doesn't have a password, create a temporary user with sudo privileges.
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16:51<Mister00X>Elwood_Soup: your souces seem to be ok. so Maybe its a problem on the other end. not entirely sure about that
16:52<Elwood_Soup>its been happening for about a week now, havent been able to update
16:52<jhutchins>Isn't there some kind of "first run" script you can set up?
16:52<towo`>Elwood_Soup, try using a real mirror instead of the load balancer
16:53<jhutchins>!mirror stats
16:53<dpkg>[mirror stats] Debian mirrors have timestamp files we use to determine how recently they have been updated. Here are some statistics the mirror maintainers provide: https://mirror-master.debian.org/status/mirror-status.html and http://ftp.de.debian.org/dmc/today/ Ask me about <mirrors>. #debian-mirrors on irc.oftc.net.
16:53<Mister00X>jhutchins: I "know" what ubuntu does and I've found some discussion on the mailing list about it from 2008 but there seems to be no progress
16:53<Elwood_Soup>towo` how would i set that up?
16:53<towo`>Elwood_Soup, edit your sources.list
16:53<Mister00X>jhutchins: It is possible to skip creating a user during install?
16:54<Elwood_Soup>i tried changed the sources to a few different mirrors, i'll keep trying some others
16:55<Elwood_Soup>oh, that's where I got hung up, I couldn't find any other mirrors that had a debian-security folder
16:55<jhutchins>Mister00X: I don't know, but you can always delet the user after the build.
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16:56<jhutchins>Mister00X: Just call it tempuser and maybe don't set a password.
16:56<jhutchins>(If your environment allows blank passwords.)
16:57<Mister00X>jhutchins: It was more about reselling it with an os on it
16:57<Mister00X>so this oem feature of ubuntu seemed so nice but t
16:58<Mister00X>well I'll need a workaround for this
17:04<jhutchins>Mister00X: I made several suggestions.
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17:04<Mister00X>jhutchins: And I'm going to look into them. Thanks btw
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17:06<jhutchins>Mister00X: Or, ya know, just install Ubuntu. It's a perfectly good OS, and a little easier for beginners.
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17:08<Mister00X>jhutchins: True. thats my fallback plan. I just wanted to know if debian also has this feature
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17:18<mirko>what in the debian startup process is supposed to activate the volumegroups, if that wasn't done via initramfs? is it via /etc/systemd/system/sysinit.target.wants/lvm2-monitor.service or something else?
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17:20<jhutchins>Mister00X: That feature may be something Dell helped develop, since they do sell pre-installed linux.
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17:22<Mister00X>jhutchins: Thats totally possible. Im just looking at ubuntus git but until know I cant find what exactly they did
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17:27<Sqrt{not}>!buster sources.list
17:27<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Buster" has the lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main", and optionally "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main". See <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <buster/updates> <buster-updates> and "man sources.list".
17:28<Sqrt{not}>Elwood_Soup, try to make your sources.list look like this ^^^
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17:33<Elwood_Soup>Sqrt{not} I copied the example sources.list straight off of https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList
17:34<Elwood_Soup>I'm trying to take towo` 's suggestion and set it directly to a mirror, because I'm pretty sure this is a DNS resolution issue
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17:34<Tech49>Sqrt{not}, yes, with the original kernel it boots without issue (except that it says kvm is disabled by the BIOS)
17:35<Elwood_Soup>but it seems like debian hides all the debian-security mirrors behind one URL, and i cant get a list of what they actually are
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17:35<Tech49>jhutchins, the system does not boot into a gui. I installed 'default' which, I think is without gui
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17:41<Elwood_Soup>towo` I got less errors with this one lol
17:41<Elwood_Soup>https://paste.debian.net/1182474/
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17:44<Sqrt{not}>Elwood_Soup, look at what dpkg wrote above. your buster security entry is wrong
17:45<Sqrt{not}>Elwood_Soup, (or look at the wiki page you quoted, which says the same as dpkg)
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17:46<Elwood_Soup>there's a reason I did that, it didn't work when I used the /
17:46<Elwood_Soup>I'll try and find the article
17:46<Elwood_Soup>https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/371890/debian-the-repository-does-not-have-a-release-file
17:47<Elwood_Soup>doesnt work either way with that berkely mirror either
17:48<Elwood_Soup>oh wait no, i was just editing the wrong line
17:48<Elwood_Soup>it works with the berkely mirror using the buster/updates format for the security lines
17:48<Elwood_Soup>awesome
17:48<Elwood_Soup>thanks everyone
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17:54<dkess>i used to be an admin for ocf.berkeley.edu and that error looks familiar, so there could be a problem on their end
17:55<Sqrt{not}>dkess, it looks like Elwood_Soup eliminated the error by fixing the security line in his sources.list
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18:09<Tech49>If I want to build something from source, I would have to install build-essentials, but then I'd have to also install all dependencies and the dependencies of those dependencies, right?
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18:10<petn-randall>Tech49: Depends on what you're exactly building. If you're building a Debian package, all the dependencies are registered there. If you're building from an upstream tarball, you'll have to read the documentation and find out what you need.
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18:11<petn-randall>So for the former you can conveniently run `apt-get build-dep .` in the source dir.
18:11<Tech49>Yeah, if you have a working network connection. That part is my problem
18:11<Tech49>I've found a driver for my nic, but it needs to be compiled
18:12<Tech49>I guess perhaps I could cross-compile
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18:14<petn-randall>Tech49: Which NIC is it?
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18:19<Fraggle2>Tech49: as a quick workaround until you have your NIC problems resolved, you could use your smartphone and usb tethering
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