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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-01-26

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02:31<user___>hi, if you setup a openVPN tun/tap interface in debian, how do you know if the traffic is exclusively going through the tun/tap and not through wlan0?
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02:38<esum>You can check your routes with ip r
02:39<esum>If you have routes with smaller metrics they are preferred
02:39<esum>(or routes with longer prefixes)
02:40<user___>routes?
02:40<esum>basically rules on how to contact ip on the internet
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02:41<user___>I understand routering in general. but do you mean openVPN removes the route of the standard (e.g. wlan0, eth0) interfaces?
02:41<Levi>hello
02:41<user___>for the purpose of preventing traffic from using those interfaces?
02:42<Levi>is it cheating if im using windows to log into debian irc?
02:42<esum>Sometimes they add routes with smaller metrics or with longer prefixes
02:42<esum>You may see 0.0.0.0/1 and 128.0.0.0/1
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02:43<user___>esum: for the VPN traffic?
02:43<esum>yes
02:44<esum>the interface used for the outgoing traffic is specified in the route
02:44<esum>if it's your vpn interface then you're good
02:44<user___>but that doesn't explain how an application which say tries to connect to wikipedia.org -> ip addr 1.2.3.4 for example - would use the tun/tap and not wlan0..?
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02:46<user___>I get that if the application configures its socket to use say: 128.0.0.1 then it will get routed through the interace which can reach that network, but most applications won't bind() their sockets to that network?
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02:47<esum>Your routes are system-wide not application-specific
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02:48<esum>If you don't see a default route going through your vpn interface then you're probably not using your vpn
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02:49<esum>But sometimes OpenVPN adds two routes 0.0.0.0/1 and 128.0.0.0/1 which has the same effect as adding a default route
02:49<user___>yes, but won't the application still try to use e.g 1.2.3.4 and not openVPN's "special" network? or does something e.g. the system resolver point the application to use a different IP/network?
02:50<user___>than it would normally
02:51<esum>it depends on your routes
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02:53<user___>oh, are you saying the 0.0.0.0/1 route is kind of like a wildcard route that the kernel will also choose to use ?
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02:54<esum>Yes
02:54<user___>because its prefix always matches?
02:54<user___>ah
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02:55<esum>The routes 0.0.0.0/1 and 128.0.0.0/1 cover the whole IPv4 internet
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02:56<user___>and that presumably - due to the length of the network subnet match - "beats" a regular network prefix match?
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02:56<esum>Yes the kernel prefers longer prefixes
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02:56<user___>so do routers on the internet too, as I understand it
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02:59<user___>so that's it? the openVPN tun/tap will simply capture all outbound traffic thru using that routing tricky?
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02:59<esum>Yes
02:59<esum>You can also check your ipv6 routes with "ip -6 r"
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03:00<user___>esum: thanks for explanation. yes, I will try the ip command too
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06:21<pragmatic>hello there. I just upgraded to an i5 10400 and I want to install Debian Stable. Will the cpu work as intended with kernel 4.19?
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06:29<petn-randall>pragmatic: yes.
06:30<petn-randall>,kernels
06:30<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 5.10.0-trunk-686 (5.10.2-1~exp1); sid: 5.10.0-2-686-pae (5.10.9-1); bullseye: 5.10.0-1-686 (5.10.4-1); buster-backports: 5.9.0-0.bpo.5-686-pae (5.9.15-1~bpo10+1); buster: 4.19.0-13-686-pae (4.19.160-2); stretch-backports: 4.19.0-0.bpo.9-686-pae (4.19.118-2+deb10u1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.19.0-0.bpo.13-686 (4.19.160-2~deb9u1); jessie-backports:
06:30<judd>4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.9.88-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 4.9.0-0.bpo.12-686 (4.9.210-1+deb9u1~deb8u1)
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06:31<petn-randall>pragmatic: If anything of the hardware around it doesn't work as intended, you can always try a more recent kernel from buster-backports.
06:32<pragmatic>petn-randall: thanks
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07:02<wololoer>Hi. I've been waiting for a package that was in the NEW queue and hasn't entered unstable. Is there a url/mailing list where I can read about it's possible rejection?
07:02<wololoer>This is the ITP link: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=913079
07:02<judd>Bug https://bugs.debian.org/913079 in wnpp (open): «ITP: strawberry -- an audio player and music collection organizer fully based on Qt5»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2018-11-06; last modified: 2021-01-10.
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07:05<Levi>hello
07:05<petn-randall>wololoer: https://ftp-master.debian.org/ will have all the details, and if you're the maintainer you should have gotten a mail about this.
07:05<petn-randall>hi Levi
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07:24<Levi>petn-randall: hey
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08:16<wololoer>petn-randall: I am not the mantainer, just interested. I have visited that link and sublinks, but could not find any reason for the rejection of the package.
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10:00<keycollector>Workstation had seemed to halt overnight. Where should i check for most releveant logs to find out what happen? kernel log?
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11:36<maxrazer_>Is there a problem with the debian servers? Package download is very slow.
11:37<maxrazer_>I'm getting 963 B/s
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11:44<petn-randall>maxrazer_: Which server are you connecting to? There are hundreds of mirrors.
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11:46<petn-randall>I guess we'll never know ...
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11:48<jhutchins>!mirror status
11:48<dpkg>Debian mirrors have timestamp files we use to determine how recently they have been updated. Here are some statistics the mirror maintainers provide: https://mirror-master.debian.org/status/mirror-status.html and http://ftp.de.debian.org/dmc/today/ Ask me about <mirrors>. #debian-mirrors on irc.oftc.net.
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11:59<puke>From what I understand, sources.list takes precedence over files in sources.list.d, which means that with my current setup, packages from Debian's own repos are preferred over ones from 3rd party repos I've added myself (in sources.list.d). Is that how it's supposed to be? or should I make it so that it's the other way around?
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12:01<petn-randall>puke: sources.list and sources.list.d/* co-exist at the same priority. What counts is the package version number, and also any priorities set.
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12:02<iiibill>man apt_preferences
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12:21<maxrazer>There is a major verizon service outage. No problem with debian servers.
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12:24<sney>indeed, since "the debian servers" in current era is a distributed CDN, and generally resistant to localized problems
12:26<maxrazer>Does the default server forward to multiple other servers? I see a lot of mirrors, but are they used automatically?
12:26<maxrazer>I get it that the debian servers wouldn't all go down, but I'd have to change to a mirror. I guess I meant the default server.
12:27<maxrazer>Or default collection of hosts or whatever is pointed to by default.
12:27<Fraggle2>maxrazer: just use deb.debian.org
12:27<sney>deb.debian.org and ftp.debian.org are both aliases for the CDN I just mentioned
12:27<Fraggle2>this way you are using the content delivery network
12:28<maxrazer>Ok, I've set it back to deb.debian.org. The debian servers weren't the problem anyway.
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12:44<Fraggle2>it is a little bit strange that the debian installer offers deb.debian.org only after you have selected a specific country, IIRC
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12:49<gravier>a
12:49<gravier>Uh, sorry
12:49<gravier>Anyone here ? Am I in the right place for Debian-related support stuff ?
12:49<sney>gravier: correct
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12:50<gravier>So, I was wondering how one might go about setting up Debian with LVM on a disk that already has another OS installed with LVM
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12:50<gravier>I'm currently on the graphical installer, stuck on the partitioning part because it seems to want to setup LVM on the entire disk instead of letting me just create an LVM partition and then setting up partitions in there
12:51<sney>Fraggle2: d-i has always asked for a country before offering the mirror list, so it's partly historical. But there are cases where someone might still want to use a country-specific mirror, so it still offers them, even though deb.debian.org is what the majority should use
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12:52<gravier>(create a physical LVM partition on free space on the disk left over after having created the previous physical LVM partition for the other OS)
12:53<gravier>Is there any way to do that ?
12:53<sney>gravier: I don't use lvm often, but for partitioning setups outside what the installer understands automatically, you may want to either a) use the installer in expert mode, and circumvent partman, setting up your new lv manually; or b) skip the installer entirely and use debootstrap to install debian after setting up the disk yourself
12:54<gravier>I can create an LVM physical partition, but that doesn't let me do anything with it from what I can see (i.e. the LVM partition is there, but I can't create a group or add partitions in there)
12:54<gravier>I'll try using expert mode
12:55<gravier>How does one go about doing that ?
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12:56<gravier>As in, how do I enable expert mode on the installer ?
12:57<gravier>Do you just mean something like going on a VT behind the installer's back and messing with the partitioning ?
12:57<sney>gravier: it's one of the boot options, you'll have to start over
12:57<gravier>Welp that's mildly annoying but I'll try that
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12:59<jhutchins>!ig
12:59<dpkg>The Installation Guide for Debian 10 "Buster" can be found at https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/installmanual . See also <errata> and <buster release notes>.
13:00<thespe>Hi, randomly my screen flickers between the same few frames, sound still works, and clicking the hw power button results in a clean shutdown. AMDGPU, Cinnamon-core, light cpu load and heavy gpu load, this has happened three times starting yesterday. Video: we.tl/t-2muqoupVOF disregard the vertical lines, that's a hardware issue with my monitor
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13:07<gravier>I got to the partitioning part in expert mode and it doesn't seem to have any functionality to "circumvent partman, setting up your new lv manually"
13:07<gravier>It doesn't seem to have any kind of difference with the non-expert mode partitioning stage
13:07<sney>expert mode lets you skip steps, which is what I meant by circumvent. you can get a shell prompt with alt-f2
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13:08<gravier>Oh, so I'd have to manually set up the disk and then /etc/fstab ?
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13:08<gravier>It seems kind of hard to actually circumvent the Debian installer on this part, considering it then has to know what / will be
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13:09<sney>the debian installer always uses /target for the, er, target filesystem. so you set up the disk, mount it as /target, then go to the next step in the installer
13:09<gravier>Like, are you suggesting something like manually setting up the partitions and then just telling the installer to use those partitions for the purposes I want ? Is that something you can do ?
13:09<gravier>Oh ok
13:10<gravier>Does it just set up /etc/fstab automatically too or is that something I have to do ?
13:10<gravier>i.e. if I set up my partitions properly, then mount them on /target, /target/home, swapon the swap partition, etc. will it handle that properly ?
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13:11<sney>I think it will do it for you, but you can double-check before rebooting at the end
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13:11<gravier>Ok, nice
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13:16<gravier>Looks like the installer lets me just take arbitrary partitions and do whatever with them so I can just take the newly created LVM partitions (it detects them properly) and tell it to use those however I want
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13:17<sney>ah, nice. even better.
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13:18<gravier>Much less scary than having to mount stuff manually and hope it works
13:19<gravier>Now I just have to figure out why tf it wants to format my Arch Linux swap partition
13:19<sney>swap doesn't contain any persistent data, so it's safe to mkswap it every time.
13:20<gravier>Oh, so it wanted to share the swap with Arch ?
13:21<sney>both OSes can use the same swap space independently
13:21<gravier>Wouldn't that interfere with hibernation ?
13:22<sney>yes, it would. hibernation can be funny with dual boot and efi though
13:22<gravier>seems a bit odd to have it try to do this by default then but I guess users able to read would figure out what's going on if they were aware of the potential problems
13:22<sney>if you tend to use hibernate, then separate swap spaces would be best, but it might still exhibit strange behavior
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13:23<sney>yes, and with virtualization, dual boot is losing popularity afaict
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13:23<gravier>heh, I have to set up that dual boot with Arch because of school
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13:23<gravier>best part: I'm doing it on a VM
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13:25<gravier>I guess that's what happens when current times catch up with an aging curriculum
13:25<sney>indeed
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13:37<gravier>Looks like I managed to add in Debian without fucking up Arch like I did last time
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14:00<jhutchins>You wouldn't want to hibernate one installatin and boot the other, especially with shared swap.
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16:12<grummund_>Hi, any suggestings for software to read the address book from a phone SIM card?
16:13<grummund_>the SIM card reader shows up as a PL2303 Serial Port - /dev/ttyUSB0
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16:48<_0>hello, respective people!
16:49<_0>youtube-dl give me error while trying to download any video from yt, what to do?
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16:50<sarnold>probably download a new version of youtube-dl
16:51<sarnold>youtube folks break the interface often to try to keep these tools from working
16:51<jhutchins>grummund_: It would depend entirely on what the format of the address book is. Could be flat file, could be an encrypted database.
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16:51<jhutchins>_0: Has it worked for you in the past?
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16:52<_0>jhutchins, far early
16:52<jhutchins>_0: Remember YouTube doesn't want you downloading stuff, they make changes to break the downloader.
16:53<_0>thanks, online is not my goal=)
16:53<_0>it's for pirates=)
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16:55<grummund_>jhutchins: any ideas how to know that?
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17:00<jhutchins>grummund_: Know what?
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17:00<grummund_>jhutchins: the format of the address book... (on the SIM card).
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17:22<jhutchins>How would I? You haven't identified the phone, it's OS, or the address book program. They can all be different. What I would do is copy the data (so you don't mess it up), and start examining the copy. There is a utility called "file" that tries to read the magic word that identifiex most unix and windows files, a utility called strings that can extract text from a binary file, you can look at the
17:22<jhutchins>contents with cat or less or vi.
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17:23<grummund_>jhutchins: the card reader presents itself as a serial port.
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17:25<grummund_>/dev/ttyUSB0
17:25<jhutchins>grummund_: Is the card mounted?
17:26<grummund_>'mount' as in file-system? no, it's a serial port.
17:27<jhutchins>As in physically inserted in the reader.
17:27<sarnold>can you use at&h to get help? some modems supported that back in the day
17:27<grummund_>jhutchins: yes, it's physically inserted in the reader.
17:27<jhutchins>sarnold: It's not a modem, so likely it's not going to work with debian, but we're not out of tricks yet.
17:28<jhutchins>grummund_: Then you'll have to research the reader by brand and model and figure out what driver to use with it.
17:28<grummund_>it's generic - PL2303 Serial Port.
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17:31<jhutchins>lsusb shows mine as a card reader. Yours is loading the wrong driver.
17:31<blast007>is the phone the SIM card belongs to broken?
17:32<grummund_>jhutchins: what type of SIM card reader do you have?
17:32<jhutchins>0b97:7772 O2 Micro, Inc. OZ776 CCID Smartcard Reader
17:33*grummund_ suspects this one just bit-bangs the data lines to speak to the card in native format
17:33<grummund_>it's nothing more than a usb-serial chip
17:35<grummund_>didn't realise there were 'intelligent' ones that present as a block device.
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17:39<jhutchins>grummund_: sd cards do not present data as a serial feed.
17:40<jhutchins>grummund_: Your reader is not a serial device.
17:40<grummund_>it's a SIM card not a SD card.
17:40<jhutchins>grummund_: Doesn't matter.
17:41<jhutchins>grummund_: It's a storage device, not a communications device.
17:42<grummund_>it's nothing more than a usb-serial chip
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17:42<grummund_>it will bit-bang the gpio lines (under control of pc software)
17:43<grummund_>it's that "sortware" i'm after ;)
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17:43<grummund_>https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffnt&q=PL2023+sim+reader&iax=images&ia=images
17:44<jhutchins>grummund_: I'm wrong, it is accessed as a serial device. http://timesinker.blogspot.com/2016/04/using-cheap-sim-card-readers.html
17:46<grummund_>thanks ;)
17:47<jhutchins>grummund_: I would suggest doing some searching on the web, it looks like there's more than one way and different things work with different readers.
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17:47<jhutchins>grummund_: Did you try lsusb and see what it said it was?
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17:48<grummund_>yeah, i did some cursory searching. just asking here as well.
17:48<spawacz>Hello. I am looking through the bugs page, why there replies are marked as message #5, #10, #15, am I missing some inbetween? I can't really find a button to view everything, if there's something more
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17:49<grummund_>Bus 005 Device 004: ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port
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17:51<grummund_>Package openct is not available, but is referred to by another package.
17:51<jhutchins>grummund_: Might be contrib/non-free
17:52<jhutchins>I get about 23,800 hits for that make and model.
17:52<jhutchins>https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/459466/pl2303-pl2303x-usb-serial-driver
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17:54<grummund_>jhutchins: it's a very common usb-serial chip, just happens to be re-purposed for this application.
17:54<jhutchins>Adding linux to the search reduces it to 13,700 hits.
17:54<grummund_>jhutchins: it won't be using serial protocol, as you say.
17:55<grummund_>well, that's a guess... but i very much doubt it.
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17:56<jhutchins>http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man4/uplcom.4freebsd.html
17:56<grummund_>probably just toggles the handshake lines in a fashion.
17:56<jhutchins>Looks like you can recompile the kernel to support it, and I think I'm done googling for you, have fun.
17:57<grummund_>jhutchins: thanks, it's supported in the stock kernel. it shows up as /dev/ttyUSB0 alright.
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18:28<solo>Hello
18:28<sarnold>hello solo
18:29<solo>i have a problem, i'm with linux mint, and i have 2 screens, i need extend my screens like in windows, with XRANDR command, i don't know how
18:29<bremner>!mint
18:29<dpkg>Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>.
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19:48<dpkg>Information about the security advisory CVE-2021-3156 may be found at https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2021-3156
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