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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-01-28

---Logopened Thu Jan 28 00:00:14 2021
00:00-!-abreu[m] [~abreumatr@2001:470:1af1:101::4191] has joined #debian
00:00-!-abreu[m] is "org.matrix:abreu" on #debian
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00:01-!-simonpatapon is "Simon Patapon" on #buddhism #debian-next #oftc #debian #bitlbee
00:03-!-nomac [~nomac@2600:6c42:6700:fff6::1543] has joined #debian
00:03-!-nomac is "realname" on #debian
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00:04-!-hybridwipe is "realname" on #llvmlinux #llvm #qemu #msys2-ci #msys2 #debian-next #debian
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00:08-!-ircuser-1 is "Johnny Von Neumann" on #virt #qemu #ovirt #kvm #debian #ceph
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00:11-!-ax56234 is "+" on #debian
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00:11-!-Kamilion|ZNC is "I am kamilion. But you knew that, didn't you." on #tardigans #moocows #linode #debian-next #debian
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00:13-!-imMute^ is "Matt" on #debian #kernelnewbies
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00:16-!-Kamilion|ZNC is now known as Kamilion
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00:24-!-diogenes_oftc is "Nicolas" on #debian
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00:25-!-phorce1_ is "Gerald" on #debian
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00:28-!-hybridwipe is "realname" on #debian #debian-next #msys2 #msys2-ci #qemu #llvm #llvmlinux
00:28-!-jj5 [~jj5@139-218-130-78.sta.dodo.net.au] has joined #debian
00:28-!-jj5 is "jj5" on #debian-next #freedombox-ci #freedombox-dev #debian-raspberrypi #freedombox #debian-kde #debian
00:37-!-zebrag [~inkbottle@aaubervilliers-654-1-106-113.w86-212.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
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00:44-!-svedrin is "Michael Ziegler,,," on #debian
00:44-!-seeS_ [~quassel@203-214-73-8.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #debian
00:44-!-seeS_ is "Craig" on #debian
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00:55-!-dom_ is "realname" on #debian
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01:00-!-Twinster is "TWINSTER,,," on #debian
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01:04-!-rasmus-mk is "Rasmus MK" on #debian-next #debian
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01:08-!-}ls{ is "nobody" on #kvm #qemu #debian-nginx #debian-lan #debian-kde #debian-django #debian
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01:09-!-ax562 is "realname" on #linux #debian #debian-next
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01:29-!-enick_767 [~viccuadma@2001:470:1af1:101::443f] has joined #debian
01:29-!-enick_767 is "org.matrix:viccuad" on #debian #debian-next #mobian
01:30-!-rasmus-mk [~rasmus@c83-253-223-217.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
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01:41-!-f10 is "f10" on #debian-kde #debian
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01:41-!-arnold_oree is "Arnold Opio Oree" on #virt #qemu #debian-meeting #debian-tech #debian
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01:42-!-andibmu is "Andreas B. Mundt" on #debian-meeting #debian #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian-edu #debian-lan
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01:51-!-oschraml- is "oschraml" on #debian
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01:51-!-oschraml- is now known as oschraml
01:52-!-eventhorizon5 [~smuxi@c-98-228-26-70.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #debian
01:52-!-eventhorizon5 is "Ryan" on #debian
01:53-!-gerdon [~Gerdon@host-80-181-111-1.pool80181.interbusiness.it] has joined #debian
01:53-!-gerdon is "realname" on #debian
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01:56-!-ashwinik is "Ashwini Kammar" on #debian
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01:56-!-[-_-] is "fractal" on #debian
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02:00-!-arnold_oree is "Arnold Opio Oree" on #virt #qemu #debian-meeting #debian-tech #debian
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02:10-!-ircuser-1 is "Johnny Von Neumann" on #virt #qemu #ovirt #kvm #debian #ceph
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02:19-!-tobiwan[m] is "org.matrix:tobiwankenobi" on #debian #debian-next
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02:20-!-ChubaDuba is "ChubaDuba" on #debian #debian-devel-changes
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02:23-!-cherrycat[m] is "org.matrix:suzu_e" on #debian
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02:30-!-jiaqi is "sunjiaqi" on #debian
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02:31-!-linux77 is "(Leonardo de Araújo Lima)." on #perl #python #debian-social #debian-next #debian #cap-cc #asl-br
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02:41-!-frankie is "Francesco P Lovergine" on #debian-devel-it #debian
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02:43-!-mzf is "realname" on #debianfr #salsaci #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian-hpc #minidebconf-online #mini-DebConf-fr #debian
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02:44-!-frankie_ is "Francesco P Lovergine" on #debian-devel-it #debian
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02:44-!-bastetx is "bastetx" on #debian
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02:45-!-cmahns[m] is "org.matrix:cmahns" on #debian
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02:47-!-bodiccea is "bodiccea" on #oftc #debian-next #debian #kernelnewbies
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02:48-!-bodiccea is "bodiccea" on #kernelnewbies #debian #debian-next #oftc
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02:51-!-frankie- is "Francesco P Lovergine" on #debian-devel-it #debian
02:51-!-drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined #debian
02:51-!-drzacek is "realname" on #packaging #linux-rt #debian-next #debian
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02:52-!-dodocrypto is "realname" on #debian #mobian
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02:56-!-hackredolf[m] is "org.matrix:hackredolf" on #debian
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02:57-!-moldorcoder7_ is "moldorcoder7" on #virt #qemu #openvas #llvm #debian-next #debian #C
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02:58-!-phorce1 is "Gerald" on #debian
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03:00-!-chele is "chele" on #debian-next #debian
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03:05-!-larjona is "Laura Arjona Reina" on #debian-games #debian-blm #meetbot #debian #boothkit #debian-fediverse #debian-es #debian-social #debian-a11y #debian-nonupload #debian-lists #debian-academy #kgb-devel #debian-policy #debian-i18n #debian-mozext #debian-dpp #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-gnupg #backchannel #debian-meeting #mini-DebConf-fr #debian-next #debian-madrid #debian-live #debian-lts #minidebconf-online #debian-edu #debian-debsources #debian-devel-es #SunCamp16 #debian-desktop #dpp
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03:05-!-abhinav is "Abhinav" on #debian
03:06<abhinav>hello
03:06<abhinav>anybody here
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03:08-!-dme[m] is "org.matrix:dme" on #debian
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03:09-!-titi is "Your Name" on #debian
03:09<jm_>apparently not
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03:11-!-bestucan[m] is "org.matrix:bestucan" on #debian
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03:13-!-Haudegen is "AP,,," on #security #debian-next #debian.or.at #debian
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03:15-!-tex is "Stoicien" on #debian-nonupload #bitlbee #debian-next #debian #debian-es #debian-devel-es #debian-devel-it #debian-l10n-fr #debian-a11y
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03:18-!-frankie- is "Francesco P Lovergine" on #debian-devel-it #debian
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03:18-!-skitt is "Stephen Kitt" on #debian
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03:23-!-Edhil is "One of the last" on #debian
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03:24-!-rxsin_ is "kevin simba" on #debian
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03:27-!-andrewsh_ is "org.matrix:andrewsh" on #debian #minidebconf-india #debian-sk #debian-fasttrack #debian-android-soc-meeting #mobian #osm-ru #debconf20-bratislava
03:27-!-andrewsh_ is now known as Guest11622
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03:29-!-fletchpl is "Paul Fletcher" on #debian
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03:29-!-LukasDiscrust[m] is "social.debian.matrix:lukaso" on #debian
03:31-!-Sajesajama[m] is "org.matrix:sajesajama" on #oftc
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03:39-!-jmux is "Jan-Marek Glogowski" on #debian
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03:41-!-epsilonKNOT is "Aisha Tammy" on #debian
03:47-!-Guest11622 is now known as andrewsh_
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03:51-!-diogenes_oftc is "Nicolas" on #debian
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03:57-!-milkt_ is "debian" on #debian-next #debian
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03:58-!-milkt_ is "debian" on #debian-next #debian
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04:22<i12345>hello?
04:22<i12345>#last
04:22<jar-el>hi
04:23<i12345>我丢
04:23<jar-el>!ask
04:23<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ See <smart questions><errors>.
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08:13<roch>hi
08:13<jar-el>hi
08:13<roch>how are you
08:13<jar-el>I'm good thanks :)
08:13<jar-el>!ask
08:13<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ See <smart questions><errors>.
08:13<roch>hhhh
08:15<roch>im programr and you
08:15<Mister00X>!chat
08:15<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic (either freenode or oftc) or #moocows on irc.oftc.net, ##chat on irc.freenode.net, or search for a chat topic of your choice at https://netsplit.de/channels/
08:15<roch>ok ok im sory
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08:19<roch>i use a parrot and I have a problem with the wifi
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08:23<roch>Although I am connected to Wi-Fi, it appears that I am connected via cable. What is the solution?
08:23<Mister00X>roch: parrot os is not supported here, but there is a channel on freenode
08:23<roch>ok think you Mister00x
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08:25<bremner>!parrot
08:25<dpkg>Parrot Linux is a distribution based on <testing> for security experts, developers and privacy aware people. It is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Support can be found in #parrotsec on Freenode or the community pages https://docs.parrotlinux.org/community. Ask me about <based on debian> and <parrot-overnight>. If you are new to linux, try using Debian: http://www.debian.org.
08:25<bremner>see also the links ^
08:25<adminq>hello
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08:26<Mister00X>oh so there is a factoid about parrot too
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08:30<adminq>i am accessing from Q4OS.
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08:32<roch>what this Q4OS ???
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08:35<adminq>hi rohc. it is an OS for old PCs developed based on debian.
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08:41<adminq>does anyone know how to access photos on iPhone ?
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09:09<adminq>I'm looking for a Debian-based OS that can be operated with a GUI and trying various things. Is there any recommendation?
09:09<adminq>LXDE or LXQT is preferred.
09:10<adminq>32bit and 1CD is better.
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09:13<grove>Asking in #debian the answer is kind of given, especially when you haven't said anything about what you want to try.
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09:15<adminq>thanks a lot. grove
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09:21<Nemoder>adminq: if you want debian with those out of the box (and with non-free firmware) you can use the unnoficial images: https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.7.0-live+nonfree/amd64/iso-hybrid/
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09:27<adminq>Nemoder Thank you !
09:27<adminq>Great site.
09:27<adminq>Let's try it right away.
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10:25<skettilord>hello
10:25<rnm>yes hello. don't ask to ask :)
10:26<skettilord>why is dnsmasq still unpatched? https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/dnsmasq
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10:27<skettilord>ubuntu, opensuse etc are patched since a week
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10:28<skettilord>https://www.jsof-tech.com/disclosures/dnspooq/
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10:29<rnm>I don't use dnsmasq. but from the link you give. Seem stable is vulnerable but patched on testing and unstable
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10:30<skettilord>those are pretty bad vulnerabilities for stable
10:30<zoke>so patches are not backported
10:30<skettilord>the debian maintainer is also the dnsmasq autor
10:31<zoke>probably why the patches aren't backported...
10:32<zoke>but you should probably ask the author then
10:32<skettilord>he don't answer by mail
10:33<skettilord>and you can be sure, that he was contacted by jsof before the public release
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10:35<rnm>On tracker (https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/dnsmasq) seem stable are using really outdated dnsmasq 2.80-1
10:36<zoke>issues are with versions 2.83 and prior as far as I can tell
10:37<zoke>guessing it wouldn't be that much work to grab the sid sources and build a new package for stable
10:37<rnm>yeah you are right the maintainer is the author https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?email=simon%40thekelleys.org.uk
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10:41<grove>zoke: If you grabbed the sources from sid and build a package for stable, that wouldn't get it. You have to backport the fix for the security bug
10:42<imMute>grove: why wouldn't compiling the sid package (which has the fix) on stable get the fix as well??
10:42<zoke>grove: if the fix is in 2.84 (that's in sid) you get the fix and end up with version 2.84
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10:43<grove>If there was a newer version of dnsmasq (with a fix) in backports, I could (kind of) understand the maintainer saying to use that.
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10:44<zoke>aren't security updates/patches/backports handled by the security team?
10:45<grove>zoke: 2.80+fix != 2.84. What about all the other changes that went into it and made e.g 2.81 happen?
10:45<grove>imMute: That's kind of the *definition* of stable. You don't get random updates
10:45<zoke>2.84 would surely include all things added in 2.81
10:45<imMute>grove: no, I mean if *I* do that compilation, not the Debian project.
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10:46<imMute>grove: that's what zoke was suggesting to do.
10:46<grove>zoke: Yes, But 2.80 (as is in Buster)+fix doesn't
10:47<zoke>any fix for 2.80 should be included in 2.81 by default
10:48<grove>Several comments back I accidentally wrote "get it" where I meant "get in"
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10:48<zoke>and all the CVEs listed for dnsmasq are marked as fixed in sid (2.84)
10:48<rnm>i don't understand. Does critical bug suppose patched to stable?
10:49<imMute>rnm: yes, I would expect debian to patch this in stable.
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10:49<rnm>how long it take? I just curious to learn how debian take care it
10:50<buffoon>Hi! Is there a way to tell the debian-installer to log to a rsyslog server? If possible I'd like to specify it through a kernel arg.
10:50<grove>rnm: Yes, somebody (whether it's the security team or the maintainer of the dnsmasq package, I don't know) is apparently a bit behind in this case
10:50<zoke>it's community based.. it depends on how much free time the maintainers/security team has to spare
10:51<zoke>also there is the QA part to consider as well
10:51<zoke>don't want to push unstable stuff into stable
10:52<zoke>on a sidenote, 2.84 from sid builds without any issues on stable
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10:53<rnm>i see, well skettilord or someone should contact security team in this case right?
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10:54<rnm>oh you tried build it already zoke? then it make sense to update 2.80-1 to 2.84, right? or need to wait n release package rev one by one until reach 2.84
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10:55<buffoon>Oh, nevermind. Just found it out. In case someone wants to know: log_host=<ip>
10:56<zoke>rnm: built it using pdebuild. Honestly don't think 2.81 will ever be in stable
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10:56<zoke>sice 2.83 is in testing it's seems more resonable that it migrates to stable after confirmed ok
10:57<zoke>but I'm not involved in debian development so I may be wrong
10:58<rnm>i think testing is what I prefer to use
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10:59<zoke>I use stable for servers and sid for my daily work laptop
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11:08<rnm>even sudo vulnerable haven't fixes yet https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2021-3156 on stable
11:09<petn-randall>rnm: Did you read it properly? Because it *is* fixed in all releases.
11:10<rnm>oh you are right. buster (security) 1.8.27-1+deb10u3
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11:10<petn-randall>Also, the recent CVEs of dnsmasq are all fixed in stable, too.
11:10<imMute>rnm: that page lags a bit. the one for dnsmasq listed a very old version for stable that is no longer whaat is actually in stable.
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11:11<rnm>the release "buster (security)" is special and refering release by debian security?
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11:11<petn-randall>In stable, any bugfixes (including security fixes) are backported to the version in stable. This makes sure that there are no disruptive changes in newer versions that might affect users.
11:11<imMute>rnm: correct. if you don't have the security repos enabled, you get what's in the "buster" line.
11:12<imMute>rnm: at least until the next point release for "buster".
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11:13<blast007>petn-randall: are they? all the 2020 CVEs for dnsmasq are still showing as "vulnerable" for stretch, stretch (security), and buster (and there's no "buster (security)" listed) in each CVE page.
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11:14<petn-randall>blast007: I didn't check the tracker of doom, but I do read apt-listchanges on my serves, and there was an update fixing those on the same day those CVEs had their embargo removed.
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11:18<rnm>do debian package source have something like git log? all I see is just a file https://sources.debian.org/src/dnsmasq/
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11:19<imMute>rnm: https://packages.debian.org/source/buster/dnsmasq the changelog link on the right.
11:19<blast007>petn-randall: Debian 10 has version 2.80-1, which the Debian changelog says was published in 2018
11:20<rnm>okey thanks imMute , but how about something like git-diff?
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11:20<imMute>rnm: depends on how the maintainer manages the source package. if the source package is in git, you can get a git history of it. if they just use source package dumps, the only thing you have is the changelog file.
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11:22<petn-randall>blast007: Ah, indeed! That was my testing machine then.
11:22<imMute>rnm: It looks like the dnsmasq package is just source package dumps.
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11:22<imMute>rnm: there might be a way to diff source packages, but I don't know it.
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11:48<Guest11649>hey. super beginner admin, but does anyone have a good resource that explains the conventional user ID ranges and what they are typically used for? My goal is understanding someone else's debian setup and trying to figure out what users might have come with the system versus which ones were created afterwards.
11:50<swing>Hey everyone, I'm looking for help regarding sensors-detect. After a clean install of debian 10 (kernel 4.19), I can't find as many info as before. Same harware as before (except the size of the drive). Am I missing something ?
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12:18<hlrscaetano>Olá a todos
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14:58<mrchip>How do i find hardwar support list. Looking to see if debian will install on a Asus B460M-C/CSM. Google, debian.org and even wiki installingdebianon doesn't list it. Is there a hardware list?
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15:00<sney>mrchip: it's easier to look up linux support for components, than for a whole laptop model. google will help you find how well your wifi/video and other components are supported
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15:07<mrchip>Thanks <sney>. It is a motherboard. Asus.com only shows windows drivers, google with search for debian asus B460M doesn't have any results that confirm but is a link to the wiki installingdebianon which does list some older m/b but not this one. So I don't know if I should buy this board. What if I look up the chipset?
15:08<sney>ok, a motherboard. same answer. it doesn't matter what asus calls it, you want to know if the individual components are supported.
15:08<sney>and linux usually only has trouble with video or networking.
15:09<sney>also, no result in "InstallingDebianOn" is usually a good sign, it means anyone with that model didn't have to do anything special to get it working, or at least nothing worth writing down
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15:11<sney>but I see from the website that this is all intel stuff. so it will probably work fine.
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15:25<mrchip><sney> thanks again. the mb has o/b video/lan. Although the spec page doesn't say what chipset the o/b video uses. The Lan uses a Intel® I219V which debian sub reddit says will work. The m/b chipset is intel B460...I'm going to assume it will work & purchase this m/b. It is intel and I'm sure if there was a problem i would see issues pop up on google.
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15:44<jhutchins>mrchip: The problem with hardware support lists is that they rely on users to post reports, which they seldom do if things work and usually don't bother with if they don't/
15:45<jhutchins>mrchip: Manufacturers will change hardware and chipsets without any change in the model designation, so that's a pit as well.
15:46<jhutchins>mrchip: Your ownly real recourse is a good returns policy.
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15:48<zoke>the only descent list I've seen over the years is thinkwiki.org, however that is thinkpad specific
15:48<zoke>and I haven't really looked for anything else
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15:48<zoke>but as long as the laptop doesn't use obscure chips most things will work
15:49<zoke>may need a newer kernel for some brand new stuff
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16:44<Tas-sos>I have a non relevant question with Debian, but a problem question/concern for my systems. So, forgive me, but I would like to discuss this with you and possibly someone's advice.
16:44<Tas-sos>I'am newbie ok. But recently, I installed a rsyslog server and I also installed "rsyslog" to the other machines, to send their logs, to the rsyslog server machine.
16:44<Tas-sos>But, how can I see beautifully - the collected logs ? The only way is with grep tool ?
16:44<Tas-sos>Isn't there something more modern, something easier to manage than writing regex with grep ?
16:44<Tas-sos>Something like... for example at least a "htop" tool for logs ?
16:45<bremner>well, journalctl is not exactly grep. It's not clear it's easier.
16:45<bremner>but it is a bit better a seperating services anyway
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16:46<sarnold>Tas-sos: log analysis stuff is Big Business; sometimes it's known as SIEM, which may help you find tooling you like
16:46<sarnold>there's probably dozens of choices
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16:47<sarnold>logwatch was popular once upon a time but it's focused on mailing reports every night via cron, so it might not be super-useful in the age of grafana and telegraf and so on
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16:49<Tas-sos>journalctl.. xm... yes I see it, It's something, but it's also no so friendly..
16:49<bremner>Tas-sos: you may also find it useful to use "systemctl status"
16:49<Tas-sos>sarnold: SIEM ? I didn't know that
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16:49<sney>quick web search pointed me to "elasticsearch" which seems to have a lot of components available in debian, some rsyslog integration according to apt search
16:50<Tas-sos>however, I know that is not so easy.. but just something more flexible and "easy" after the grep ?
16:50<Tas-sos>Yes, tools like logwatch looks very nice!
16:50<Tas-sos>But can I use logwatch for rsyslog ?
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16:52<sney>that seems like something you could find out, by looking up logwatch
16:52<jhutchins>Tas-sos: Yes, you can.
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17:18<Tas-sos>Thank you very much for that! Unfortunately I had not thought of logwatch! I'm looking for it now!
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17:18<Tas-sos>I have used it in the past and it was very useful tool!
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17:19<Tas-sos>There is anything else close to it? Other alternatives ?
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17:39<zoke>Tas-sos: ELK stack or Splunk probably
17:41<zoke>and apparantly something called graylog
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17:42<jhutchins>Splunk's probably the more broadly used thing.
17:42<zoke>https://devops.com/log-monitoring-and-analysis-comparing-elk-splunk-and-graylog/
17:43<zoke>ELK works quite well with grafana iirc
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17:44<jhutchins>Logwatch can be customized but the configuration syntax is obtuse.
17:45<jhutchins>I found it was easier to turn off the false positives and unwanted hits (things like 404s).
17:45<jhutchins>Sheesh, got distracted mid sentence - easier to ignore them than to shut them off.
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17:48<crickyx>I accidentally sent an email from my work email to to bug report with my personal data. Is there anybody here that can help me to get my data deleted? I wrote to owner@bugs.debian.org but I could not get a replay!
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17:54<Tas-sos>Thanks guys! Very interesting tools! But I want to clarify something, as first step I don't want a big tool/infrastructure like Elastic search.
17:55<Tas-sos>Elastic search is huge for me! And very.. big. ^_^ Ok I want more "easy" tools
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17:57<Tas-sos>https://www.splunk.com/ looks very nice! Its a "light" service for visualization ?
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17:58<Tas-sos>jhutchins: I see the logwatch! Its a very cool CLI tool! Can I also use ti for rsyslog logs ?
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18:09<jhutchins>Tas-sos: Yes, rsyslog is the same format as syslog, just has the ability to send and/or receive remote logs.
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20:33<bananam>long shot, but I'm hoping someone can help. usb3 speeds seem to be fine for file transfers, but running virtual machines on vbox, not so much. vms are taking 100% of disk (guest stats) on a usb3 ssd. Thoughts?
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20:36<sarnold>what storage driver are you using in your guests?
20:39<bananam>default sata. note, if I copy the vdi to a local sata connected drive, everything is snappy as expected.
20:40<sarnold>hmmm. I expected it to be slow on both :) I'd say try a different driver, one that sounds like a virtio driver
20:41<sarnold>but that may require changes in your guests, too, so it might not be the easiest thing to test
20:43<bananam>I'm kind of a nix noob. The guest is Win10. When I copy from the usb drive to local, it transfers the 50gb vdi in just a few minutes. So it seems the usb3 speeds are fine on the host. Then running the guest with vdi on the internal drive, speed is fine...
20:44<bananam>It's like vbox is using a different method to access external storage than debian does by default
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