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| 03:29 | <tri2000> | Hi, I'd like report a bug (using reportbug), but I get a SMTP send failure when trying to send it. |
| 03:30 | <tri2000> | I read https://wiki.debian.org/reportbug and followed the advices : Using a custom SMTP server |
| 03:32 | <tri2000> | It is for a google account, and I use a GMX one.. I know that my email client is configured to send using SMTP AUTH, is it supported by reportbug ? |
| 03:35 | <sandra> | Tri2000 maybe the package msmtp can do what you want |
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| 03:57 | <tri2000> | sandra, thanks for your help. Meanwhile I saw the config options smtpuser and smtppasswd in .reportbugrc . I set those options, but I still get this error :( |
| 03:57 | <tri2000> | SMTP send failure: [Errno 111] connection refused |
| 03:58 | <sandra> | https://support.gmx.com/pop-imap/imap/imap.html |
| 03:59 | <sandra> | Could be a cipher or port issue |
| 03:59 | <ach> | you have to use the service smtp cause they are firewalled because spam |
| 03:59 | <ach> | not? |
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| 04:00 | <ach> | or public like smtp |
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| 04:04 | <tri2000> | sandra, my mail client does not use imap, its logging journal |
| 04:04 | <tri2000> | shows: * Connexion au serveur SMTP : mail.gmx.net ... [09:01:06] SMTP< 220 gmx.net (mrgmx005) Nemesis ESMTP Service ready |
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| 04:05 | <sandra> | https://www.knownhost.com/wiki/email/troubleshooting/error-numbers/111 |
| 04:05 | <tri2000> | [09:01:06] ESMTP< 250-8BITMIME [09:01:06] ESMTP< 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN [09:01:06] ESMTP< 250 SIZE 69920427 [09:01:06] ESMTP> AUTH PLAIN ******** [09:01:06] ESMTP< 235 Authentication succeeded |
| 04:05 | <sandra> | Oh wow it can even handle auth plain |
| 04:06 | <sandra> | Uh, that wasn't meant to be snarky |
| 04:06 | <sandra> | I re-read what I wrote and realize it can be read with a sarcastic voice which isn't my intent |
| 04:08 | <tri2000> | sandra, no pb. I don't find a mean to have a finer log level from bugreport (to understand what fails exactly) |
| 04:09 | <sandra> | Could be mistyped server address, user name, password, or an unusual port |
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| 04:17 | <tri2000> | I did not notice that the port was not specified in reportbugrc. I did it, but I am now getting another error |
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| 04:18 | <tri2000> | SMTP send failure: [SSL: SSLV3_ALERT_ILLEGAL_PARAMETER] sslv3 alert illegal parameter (_ssl.c:1123) |
| 04:19 | <tri2000> | It does not matter if I set smtptls or not in the config file... |
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| 04:22 | <tri2000> | port is 465 so smtptls should probably not be set |
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| 04:28 | <sandra> | Huh, that's weird |
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| 04:58 | <tri2000> | I was able to use msmtp manually using both options : tls on tls_starttls off |
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| 05:00 | <tri2000> | This is actually already used by reportbug, from the docs : |
| 05:00 | <tri2000> | smtptls : This setting is ignored if you connect to port 465, in which case SSL/TLS will always be used. |
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| 05:00 | <tri2000> | And that's my case, so I still don't understand what's wrong |
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| 05:03 | <sandra> | I'm not super familiar with the "alert illegal parameter" error in SSLv3 or how to debug it |
| 05:04 | <tri2000> | neither am I. It is quite frustrating not to be able to use reportbug to report a bug :) Thanks for your help anyway |
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| 05:16 | <tri2000> | Since I can send mails using msmtp manually, I ended changing the MTA setting in .reportbugrc to : |
| 05:16 | <tri2000> | mta /usr/bin/msmtp |
| 05:16 | <tri2000> | At least a solution :) |
| 05:17 | <tri2000> | My bug report has been sent successfully |
| 05:17 | <grawity> | tbh I was also going to suggest just using msmtp as the MTA in general |
| 05:18 | <grawity> | instead of duplicating the same SMTP config across X different tools |
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| 05:18 | <grawity> | hmm what TLS library is reportbug using... |
| 05:20 | <sandra> | mstmp is fantastic |
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| 05:22 | <tri2000> | Actually, I don't use any MTA locally, except for this kind of task. So exim is installed but my config is probably broken. I don't know how to configure it right, just telling him, only local use (from local user to local user). I send/receive email using sylpheed |
| 05:22 | <tri2000> | I am quite glad that you helped me :) |
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| 05:33 | <sandra> | Jolly good♥ |
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| 06:49 | <Mister00X> | Where can I file a bug against the download site for the unofficial live images? |
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| 06:57 | <Mister00X> | Or to be more precise, If the sha*sum files for the bittorrent download are missing the hashes for the .iso files and only contain the .torrent one who do I need to inform about that? |
| 06:58 | -!- | mode/#debian [+l 730] by debhelper |
| 06:58 | <sandra> | Torrent files, in turn, contain hashes |
| 06:59 | <Mister00X> | I know but the 10.7.0 versions contained both. |
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| 07:02 | <Mister00X> | https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid/SHA512SUMS only contains the hashes for the .torrents |
| 07:03 | <Mister00X> | https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/archive/10.7.0-live+nonfree/amd64/bt-hybrid/SHA512SUMS contained the .iso and .log |
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| 07:06 | <sandra> | I've emailed debian-cd@lists.debian.org for you. Thanks for the report. |
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| 07:07 | <sandra> | I love that people care so much about the details in Debian♥ |
| 07:07 | <Mister00X> | sandra: Thank you sandra |
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| 07:09 | <sandra> | https://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages oh, wow, I shoulda found this page before I emailed them! Oh well |
| 07:12 | <Mister00X> | The only one I knew about was wnpp. |
| 07:12 | <sandra> | Yeah, same. In our defense, the bottom of the web page said to email the mailing list |
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| 07:14 | <Mister00X> | True |
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| 07:25 | <tubnob> | anyone use vnstat? |
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| 07:27 | <tubnob> | i can see my internet usage had a spike but i'm not sure if i can see which application caused that |
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| 07:42 | <sandra> | Mister00X: "Thanks for the report. I've recently refactored the code for our builds, and it looks like this is a bug from that. I'll get this fixed shortly." |
| 07:44 | <Mister00X> | So it was indeed a bug and not something indendet. |
| 07:45 | <sandra> | Yes |
| 07:46 | <sandra> | I thought for sure it was intended but shows what I know♥ |
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| 08:19 | <ed_> | tubnob: nethogs seems a simple way |
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| 08:23 | <Guest12518> | hi |
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| 08:37 | <a-l-e> | hi. i have a 2560x1440 monitor. a laptop that does not (seem to) support this resolution over hdmi and a raspberry pi that does support it. i need to run a x64 binary (vmware...) and i'm wondering if it's possible to start it on the laptop and use the monitor attached to the raspberry pi (which is ARM) |
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| 08:40 | <a-l-e> | i really need the resolution of the new monitor, but none of the laptops and computer in the house support it... except for the raspberry. |
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| 08:56 | <bremner> | I guess it might be possible in principle, but it sounds like a world of pain to get working |
| 08:57 | <bremner> | you could use e.g. X11 forwarding or xpra. |
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| 08:58 | <bremner> | you'd have to ask wayland people how to forward a wayland display (default for current gnome) |
| 08:58 | <a-l-e> | i guess i'm still on xorg... |
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| 08:58 | <bremner> | I have had reasonable success using xpra for display forwarding |
| 08:59 | <bremner> | if the network is fast enough, then regular X11 forwarding to the pi should work |
| 08:59 | <a-l-e> | my laptop does support a higher resolution, but not for the external monitor (hdmi)... the question is, if there is a way to fool it. |
| 08:59 | <bremner> | do the devices have a displayport adapter? |
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| 08:59 | <a-l-e> | not the laptop. |
| 09:00 | <a-l-e> | nor the raspberry. |
| 09:00 | <a-l-e> | i'm looking at xpra... |
| 09:01 | <bremner> | did you try straight X11 forwarding? |
| 09:01 | <a-l-e> | no... |
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| 09:05 | <a-l-e> | i'm trying it... |
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| 09:06 | <a-l-e> | seems to be running... |
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| 09:16 | <a-l-e> | so, x forwarding somehow works... but it's too slow at changing the resolution in the virtual machine... so i can see the correct resolution, but i cannot accept it in the 10 seconds i have to press the button. |
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| 09:18 | <a-l-e> | another (related) question: is there a way to install vmware without sudo, without vmware noticing? |
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| 09:25 | <a-l-e> | ok, using x11 forwarding is too slow for my infrastructure / what i need to do. |
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| 09:26 | <a-l-e> | but it theoretically works. |
| 09:26 | <a-l-e> | i guess that i will try to buy a cheap graphic card for my old desktop computer. |
| 09:27 | <kavan> | hi, I wanna do contribution in debian. where should I start and what it requires ? |
| 09:28 | <kavan> | any projects for newcommers ? |
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| 09:51 | <lanoxx> | kavan, https://wiki.debian.org/how-can-i-help |
| 09:52 | <bremner> | a-l-e: xpra is noticably faster than raw X11 forwarding |
| 09:52 | <dreamer> | interesting. because xpra runs a separate buffer perhaps? |
| 09:53 | <bremner> | it's just smarter about compression and network transmission |
| 09:53 | * | dreamer wanted to play with xpra > decade ago but then lost interest |
| 09:54 | <a-l-e> | i think i wait for the shop to tell me if they have a cheap graphic card that is compatible with the pc they sold me 10 years ago and the monitor they sold me yesterday : - ) |
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| 10:00 | <ach> | !afk |
| 10:00 | <dpkg> | well, afk is Away From Keyboard |
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| 10:05 | <EmleyMoor> | If I have multiple instances of a script waiting for the same lock, do they wait "in order"? |
| 10:05 | <lanoxx> | !pbuilder |
| 10:05 | <dpkg> | [pbuilder] "personal package builder", a package which creates a chroot for building packages which are optionally targeted at releases other than the currently installed release. It is useful for checking that a package has the correct build-dependencies as well. apt-get install pbuilder && pager /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/README.Debian. An alternative to pbuilder is <sbuild>. |
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| 11:02 | <jlkcz> | Hi, I am struggling with an interesting issue. Apparently, postfix is trying to read /etc/mysql/mariadb.cnf and I have no clue why... |
| 11:03 | <jlkcz> | I have it set to use mysql backend through proxy:, but I don't think it needs to read mysql confs... |
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| 11:07 | <jlkcz> | Any idea why is this happening? |
| 11:09 | <orangepi> | hello |
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| 11:13 | <EmleyMoor> | If 2+ instances of the same script are waiting for the same lock, do they wait "in order"? |
| 11:15 | <jlkcz> | EmleyMoor, what kind of scripts for what kind of lock? |
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| 11:15 | <EmleyMoor> | bash, for the kind you do with flock, to ensure that only one instance runs at a time |
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| 11:21 | <jlkcz> | EmleyMoor, it seems that is not guaranteed |
| 11:21 | <EmleyMoor> | jlkcz: Thanks... presumably I can kill the less important ones while they're waiting, then... |
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| 12:05 | <ar> | hi. i was trying to download a debian installer that would work with the NICs that are installed in my system, from https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ |
| 12:05 | <ar> | but i'm getting a 403 there now |
| 12:05 | <ar> | and this url used to work a few weeks ago |
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| 12:07 | <sney> | I see that as well, hmm |
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| 12:13 | <sney> | probably something got mangled with the 10.8 upload. I searched the web for 'firmware-10.7.0-netinst-amd64.iso' and I see a few alternate mirrors, try downloading from one of those |
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| 12:26 | <Sqrt{not}> | that 403 should be fixed now |
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| 12:31 | <hoonetorg> | hi, is this the right channel to discuss https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=704180 |
| 12:31 | <judd> | Bug https://bugs.debian.org/704180 in p11-kit (open): «p11-kit: provide package that diverts libnssckbi.so and replaces it with p11-kit-trust.so»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2013-03-29; last modified: 2021-01-23. |
| 12:31 | <hoonetorg> | ? |
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| 12:34 | <Brigo> | hoonetorg, i think it will fit best #debian-next. If you need some kind of support |
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| 12:44 | <hoonetorg> | Brigo thx |
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| 15:33 | <lol> | hi |
| 15:33 | <lol> | I keep coming to this channel with apt-related issue, sorry for the monotony |
| 15:34 | <lol> | I wanted to know if there is a way to keep a broken package on your system |
| 15:34 | <lol> | I mean a package with unmet dependencies |
| 15:34 | <dondelelcaro> | !equivs |
| 15:34 | <dpkg> | equivs is a package that enables you to create dummy packages that tell <apt> you really have installed (through some other means) the package. apt install equivs, and read /usr/share/doc/equivs/*, see also <usrlocal>. A better plan is often to adapt the Debian packages to your needs, ask me about <package recompile> <uupdate> <ssb>. |
| 15:34 | <lol> | wich works well anyways since the missing dependency is needed for a function I don't need (at least so I believe) |
| 15:35 | <lol> | I see |
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| 15:35 | <lol> | thanks, but I don't know if that's what I'm looking for, let me finish |
| 15:35 | <lol> | the only problem I have |
| 15:36 | <lol> | is that whenever I try to upgrade I can't cause apt wants me to resolve this problem before |
| 15:36 | <lol> | I can do this with equivs? |
| 15:36 | <lol> | ah yes |
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| 15:36 | <lol> | sorry |
| 15:36 | <lol> | I had misread |
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| 15:36 | <lol> | so basically I just create a dummy package for the unmet dependency? |
| 15:36 | <dondelelcaro> | lol: yes, though in general, you're better off just installing the missing dependency |
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| 15:37 | <lol> | I guess so, but I only found it in oldoldstable |
| 15:37 | <lol> | I tried to dpkg -i it |
| 15:37 | <lol> | and other problem arises |
| 15:37 | <lol> | I'll try with equivs now, thanks a lot! |
| 15:38 | <dondelelcaro> | lol: no problem; though I suspect there might be a better way of fixing your issue if you give us the complete details. |
| 15:38 | <dondelelcaro> | [What package, what apt is outputing, etc.] |
| 15:38 | <lol> | I downloaded the deb for nethack4 from the official site |
| 15:38 | <lol> | and it depends on libpng12 |
| 15:39 | <lol> | (but I think that's for the graphical mode, which I don't use) |
| 15:39 | <lol> | let me check a moment for the error I encountered when trying to install libpng12 |
| 15:40 | <lol> | btw the fact is that I have libpng16 installed but libpng is not present in the stable repos |
| 15:40 | <dondelelcaro> | ah; yeah, that probably needs to be recompiled against libpng16 |
| 15:40 | <dondelelcaro> | that's would be the actual way to fix your problem |
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| 15:41 | <StyXman_> | is there a sane way to start apache2 in debug mode in debian? when I try sudo apache2 -X I get |
| 15:41 | <StyXman_> | [Sun Feb 07 21:20:58.324769 2021] [core:warn] [pid 6368] AH00111: Config variable ${APACHE_RUN_DIR} is not defined |
| 15:41 | <StyXman_> | apache2: Syntax error on line 80 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: DefaultRuntimeDir must be a valid directory, absolute or relative to ServerRoot |
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| 15:42 | <lol> | so when I try to install libpng12 using the .deb file it says: |
| 15:42 | <lol> | dpkg: error processing archive libpng12-0_1.2.50-2+deb8u3_amd64.deb (--install): |
| 15:42 | <dpkg> | lol: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 15:42 | <lol> | unable to install new version of '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpng12.so.0': No such file or director |
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| 15:43 | <lol> | dpkg: what you mean? what isn't an error? |
| 15:43 | <dpkg> | no idea, lol |
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| 15:43 | <Sqrt{not}> | lol, dpkg is a bot |
| 15:43 | <StyXman_> | I think dpkg is a bot |
| 15:43 | <dondelelcaro> | StyXman_: yep; you just have to include all the right env variables |
| 15:44 | <lol> | I suspected it lol I'm dumb |
| 15:44 | <Sqrt{not}> | lol, why don't you show us the actual command you gave to dpkg |
| 15:44 | <lol> | sudo dpkg -i libpng12-0_1.2.50-2+deb8u3_amd64.deb |
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| 15:45 | <lol> | sorry I was trying to be short not to flood the channel with my issues |
| 15:45 | <dondelelcaro> | StyXman_: so sudo sh -c (. /etc/apache2/envvars; exec /usr/sbin/apache2 -X) |
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| 15:47 | <lol> | anyways I had resorted to find an easy fix (the equivs seem good enough) because I did a quick search before |
| 15:47 | <lol> | and it seems many people had this problem with libpng |
| 15:47 | <lol> | I think maybe 1.2.50 is not compatible with 1.2.50 |
| 15:47 | <lol> | sorry |
| 15:47 | <lol> | not compatible with buster |
| 15:48 | <lol> | I've read someone suggesting to use 1.2.49 from wheezie |
| 15:48 | <lol> | but I don't even know if wheezie packages are still available |
| 15:49 | <dondelelcaro> | they are in archive.debian.org |
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| 15:51 | <lol> | is that a repo? |
| 15:52 | <lol> | I mean, should I put it in /apt/sources.list? |
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| 16:08 | <lol> | fine I created the dummy package and now apt doesn't list anything broken |
| 16:08 | <lol> | thanks for the suggestion, dondelelcaro |
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| 16:20 | <h-var> | Recommended packages: transcode |
| 16:20 | <h-var> | sudo apt install transcode |
| 16:20 | <h-var> | E: Package 'transcode' has no installation candidate |
| 16:20 | <h-var> | ??? |
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| 16:23 | <sney> | ,v transcode |
| 16:23 | <judd> | Package: transcode on amd64 -- jessie: 3:1.1.7-9+b4; stretch-multimedia: 4:1.1.7-dmo15 |
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| 16:26 | <h-var> | y recommend something that doesn't exist? |
| 16:27 | <sney> | are you installing a 3rd party package? debian hasn't had transcode for a long time. looks like ubuntu 18.04LTS still does though. |
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| 16:30 | <h-var> | I wanted to install audacity cecilia ardour guitarix qtractor |
| 16:30 | <h-var> | the dpkg recommended me to also isntall transcode |
| 16:30 | <sney> | also, are you doing this on testing and posting different questions in 2 channels? stop that, if so |
| 16:31 | <h-var> | no, this is on a stable version on yet another computer |
| 16:31 | <h-var> | I bought it for music production. |
| 16:32 | <h-var> | and KDE is on my new computer for personal use |
| 16:32 | <h-var> | on that one I have set up bullseye repositories as sources |
| 16:32 | <h-var> | on this one I keep stable resources |
| 16:33 | <sney> | alright. well, if you find a stale recommend in a package, that's a minor bug that should probably be reported. but as long as the package that you want works, and installs cleanly, it's not a big deal |
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| 16:56 | <r4fkramer> | Hi all, please, why 'yum' package management is available in the official debian repository for .rpm packages. |
| 16:56 | <r4fkramer> | Wouldn't the possibility of including external repositories for .rpm packages on an OS that is originally designed to work with .deb endanger Debian stability? |
| 16:57 | <jimpop> | what is tracker-miner-fs and why would it have been installed with being specifically installed? |
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| 16:58 | <sney> | jimpop: tracker-miner-fs is a filesystem indexing tool with an unfortunate name. it probably came in with your desktop environment. |
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| 16:59 | <jimpop> | would anything in Cinnamon depend on that? |
| 16:59 | <sney> | if you install aptitude, you can do 'aptitude why packagename' to find out how a given package was installed. |
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| 16:59 | <sney> | it's likely that cinnamon's file manager uses it |
| 17:00 | <jimpop> | would it auto install it though? |
| 17:00 | <sney> | if it's a dependency or recommend, yes |
| 17:00 | <sney> | indexing search is a common functionality for a desktop file manager |
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| 17:01 | <jimpop> | i mean, would it auto install it outside of apt-get/apt/aptitude? |
| 17:02 | <sney> | no, it would have been installed at the same time as you installed cinnamon. either through the installer or apt |
| 17:02 | <jimpop> | ok, thanks sney |
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| 17:03 | <sney> | np |
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| 17:05 | <jimpop> | looks like gnome-photos is the culprit |
| 17:05 | <jimpop> | and yes I agree, unfortunate name :) Thx again |
| 17:05 | <sney> | r4fkramer: see #951299, those packages were removed a year ago and will not be in any future debian releases. but to answer your main question, sometimes it's necessary to be able to manipulate other distro packages for debugging or testing purposes. |
| 17:05 | <judd> | Bug https://bugs.debian.org/951299 in ftp.debian.org (closed): «RM: yum createrepo python-lzma yum-metadata-parser mock yum-utils dtc-xen deltarpm -- RoQA; old RH software; python2; better alternatives exist (not in debian yet)»; severity: normal; opened: 2020-02-14; last modified: 2020-05-13. |
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| 17:08 | <r4fkramer> | Ok sney, thanks for your attention; I asked this because 'yum' is still available to be installed in buster 10.8. Now it's clear for me. Really thank you very much. |
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| 17:09 | <sney> | packages removed from debian are not retroactively removed from older releases unless there's a *serious* security issue. |
| 17:10 | <r4fkramer> | Ok, thanks. |
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| 17:19 | <alex11> | is apt purge nvidia* the recommended way to remov all the proprietary stuff? |
| 17:19 | <alex11> | remove* |
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| 18:24 | <orangepi> | hye |
| 18:24 | <orangepi> | das |
| 18:24 | <orangepi> | asd |
| 18:24 | <orangepi> | anyone here |
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| 18:27 | <alex11> | "no" |
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| 18:36 | <dvs> | liar! |
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| 18:42 | <joeDoh> | I have Radicale running on a remote machine. Whenever I restart gnome-calendar after a new login, despite the fact that I have always checked "add this to your default keyring" or something like that, after having been asked to unlocked the keyring, I have to enter my password on the remote calendar for each calendar, and some calendars that I've asked gnome-calendar not to display anymore. I |
| 18:42 | <joeDoh> | don't know where to begin to look. Who would be responsible for this, gnome or ssh? (I'm not running gnome, btw, but some gnome things get installed. I was running xfce but am now trying to use i3wm. |
| 18:42 | <matt_the_hall> | Would someone please explain how to repair a debian system's files that run at boot? It appears the dbus and avahi services are corrupted. I can boot into a recovery shell, and I can even start X, but it does not seem like networking is going to function |
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| 18:42 | <matt_the_hall> | I tried using apt install --reinstall, but that did not change any packages |
| 18:43 | <matt_the_hall> | I have also tried the recovery from the install cd, and I have tried the fsck command |
| 18:44 | <matt_the_hall> | boot hangs on the starting of dbus, then won't/can't start the avahi service |
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| 19:17 | <matt_the_hall> | anyone available to help |
| 19:17 | <matt_the_hall> | ? |
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| 21:34 | <gry_> | matt_the_hall: hi |
| 21:34 | <gry_> | matt_the_hall: can you use ethernet, or is that not working also |
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| 21:40 | <joeDoh> | Anyone know why I have to enter passwords for calendar access even though everytime I do I check "add password to keyring"? Never works. AFter every login and gnome-calendar start I get asked the calendar passwords again |
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| 22:10 | <dpalacio> | can I get some insight on how useful the stable-proposed-updates repository is? I'm reading the wiki and it seems as if stable is linked to point releases and updated every 2 months, and -proposed-updates is a kind of testing for stable. I always thought that stable gets all stable updates at once and point releases matter only for physical media |
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| 22:14 | <dpalacio> | scratch that. I'm actually asking about stable-updates, not stable-proposed-updates |
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| 22:17 | <sney> | stable-updates are bugfix and non-security patches released for packages in between point releases. |
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| 22:17 | <sney> | !buster-updates |
| 22:17 | <dpkg> | buster-updates is a suite providing updates to some packages (from <proposed-updates>) prior to a <point release>. All packages from buster-updates will be included in point releases. https://wiki.debian.org/StableUpdates . Not to be confused with <buster/updates> which is for <security> updates. |
| 22:18 | <sney> | so anything that was uploaded to buster-updates between 10.7 and 10.8 is also included in 10.8, but was available for buster users prior to yesterday |
| 22:21 | <dpalacio> | sney: thanks! did I get this right? -updates gets bugfixes, -security gets security fixes (and I suppose -updates does too) and `stable` then gets updated on point releases |
| 22:21 | <sney> | yep |
| 22:21 | <dpalacio> | so since this updates (volatile) system got in place `stable` became more stable and you can pick your updates channel |
| 22:21 | <dpalacio> | nice |
| 22:22 | <dpalacio> | thanks! |
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| 22:22 | <sney> | np |
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| 23:44 | <Abrax> | when i upgrade to debian 9 to debian 10 will the upgrade change the permissions in my filesystem? |
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| 23:44 | <Abrax> | i hope it does cause my filesystems permissions are fubar right now |
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| 23:47 | <sney> | assuming your filesystem isn't too hooped for apt to work, some permissions will be "fixed" with the installation of new files |
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| 23:48 | <Abrax> | ah ok |
| 23:48 | <Abrax> | how about folders |
| 23:48 | <sney> | but there is no blanket permission reset as a part of package upgrades. debian generally assumes that if you change something it was on purpose. |
| 23:49 | <Abrax> | i suppose i can do a full reinstall just in case |
| 23:49 | <sney> | if you goofed on permissions/ownership system-wide, a reinstall is usually the best approach. |
| 23:50 | <Abrax> | by reinstall it will be a full reinstall/upgrade from 9 to 10 |
| 23:50 | <Abrax> | might as well |
| 23:50 | <Abrax> | i guess |
| 23:51 | <Abrax> | just gotta back up the user folders |
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