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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-02-10

---Logopened Wed Feb 10 00:00:32 2021
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00:23<vhns>Hi there. I'm trying to use MDomain on the Apache webserver, but I keep on getting an error in apachectl configtest implying that I don't have the module enabled. Here is a paste with some more info: https://paste.debian.net/1184834/
00:24<vhns>If any other info is needed I'd be glad to provide it
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08:14<burrows>what keeps writing aload of files with the name /etc/resolv.conf.dhclient-new.{number} ?
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08:15<burrows>I have the "chattr +i" flag set on "/etc/resolv.conf"
08:16<burrows>I'm just curious as to what is trying to overwrite it so I can try to disable it from doing so
08:16<bauen1>burrows: probably dhclient trying to apply dns settings receive from dhcp
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08:20<burrows>might this be the box to disable it? I changed method to "disabled" from "automatic" https://i.imgur.com/XHi72G7.png
08:24<bauen1>burrows: that would result in no ipv4 address, probably not what you want
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08:26<burrows>ok. so if I add a static ip to /etc/network/interfaces might that fix it?
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08:27<bauen1>burrows: no, maybe specifying a dns server could help, but i don't really know
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08:30<burrows>I already had opendns specified but it keeps trying to use the defaults from my isp or router :(
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08:31<bauen1>burrows: i mean by telling networkmanager about the dnsserver you want, not editing /etc/resolv.conf
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08:32<bauen1>burrows: actually, take a look at `man NetworkManager.conf`, you can use the dns option to tell how it should edit /etc/resolv.conf
08:32<burrows>yes, I already tried specifying OpenDNS in networkmanager
08:32<burrows>i'll have a look, thanks
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08:40<philb>burrows, could be dh_client if you're machine gets its address via DHCP.
08:41<philb>If that's the case, you can create a script in /etc/dhcp/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/ to override the resolv_conf() hook so it does nothing./
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10:02<denis>Greetings, my dpkg is broken after unsuccessful mysql installation. dpkg --configure -a doesn't do anythng (hanfs forever). What shall I do? Full question is here https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/633718/dpkg-is-in-broken-after-mysql-install
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10:07<YUDI>cek
10:07<YUDI>hallo
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10:08<YUDI>iam from indonesia
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10:09<wb9688>!chat
10:09<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic (either freenode or oftc) or #moocows on irc.oftc.net, ##chat on irc.freenode.net, or search for a chat topic of your choice at https://netsplit.de/channels/
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10:34<mo1991>Hello, I am having issues with the mouse/keyboard not resuming after hibernation. It seems to happen only after the machine hibernates for a long time. Mouse / keyboard do come back if I hibernate manually, and then resume shortly after. Can anyone point me in the right direction? This is a laptop running debian testing, with a hybrid graphics intel/nvidia.
10:35<mo1991>Any suggestions? Resume after suspend works fine. Issue only after long hibernation it seems.
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10:37<drzacek>I'm using networkmanager to configure connection on my system (using nmtui for that). I added dns entry but it looks like it gets ignored. Is NM not the right place to configure dns?
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10:46<b2ag>hi @ all. anyone know how to get a debian live/install iso to boot into a shell without user interaction? do I have to create my own iso for this or is it possible to boot the official netinst iso "the right way" to achieve this? any hint welcome. thanks!
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10:49<Wulf>b2ag: what's the boot medium? cdrom or network/pxe?
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10:50<b2ag>i tried a bit with netinst(all)-iso but could also try something else (which is not pxe)
10:50<b2ag>if that helps my goals :)
10:51<Wulf>b2ag: that doesn't answer my question.
10:52<Wulf>b2ag: are you booting from cdrom, pxe, harddrive, floppy, ...?
10:52<b2ag>ah. currently iso in kvm (cdrom I guess) and later usb thumb drive I guess.
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10:53<Wulf>b2ag: I assume (not sure) you would be using syslinux or similar. You can configure your menu entries to pass kernel parameters.
10:53<Wulf>b2ag: if there is a boot entry that already does what you want, you can use that
10:53<Sqrt{not}>b2ag, If you let the installer actually boot, you can manually get to a shell with alt-F2 once the installer menu appears
10:54<Sqrt{not}>it's a minimal busybox shell, but has many abilities. if you need the power of a full system and shell, you probably need to boot the live system
10:54<b2ag>I think alt+f2 is what I was looking for. thank you very much!
10:55<b2ag>can escalate from there ;)
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13:11<Marco>Ciao
13:11<Marco>come funziona
13:11<sney>!it
13:11<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. - debian-italian@lists.debian.org
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13:13<trench>!no
13:13<dpkg>No Offense, or den norske debian kanalen #debian-no. For skandinaviske brukere av debian. It is the norwegian channel #debian-no for scandinavian users.
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13:14<trench>dpkg: no users there :)
13:14<dpkg>trench: I give up, what is it?
13:14<sney>a lot of those language-specific channels have dried up over the years.
13:14<trench>no shit :P
13:16<trench>most people now days use matrix.org instead
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14:31<Sqrt{not}>dpkg, famous last words
14:31<dpkg><Demosthenes> and yes, in this case, i must insist i'm smarter than apt.
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15:10<Joaquinito2051>Hello, i need to know when dnf will be in testing???
15:10<sney>,v dnf
15:10<judd>Package: dnf on amd64 -- sid: 4.5.2-5
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15:11<Joaquinito2051>;v dnf
15:11<sney>probably in the next couple days
15:11<Joaquinito2051>,v dnf
15:11<judd>Package: dnf on amd64 -- sid: 4.5.2-5
15:11<Joaquinito2051>,v visualvm
15:11<judd>Package: visualvm on amd64 -- jessie: 1.3.8-1; stretch: 1.3.9-1; buster: 1.4.2-2; buster-backports: 1.4.3-1~bpo10+1; bullseye: 2.0.6-1; sid: 2.0.6-1
15:11<sney>!msg the bot
15:11<dpkg>Please have conversations with the bots in a private message as much as possible. Instead of using "!topic" or "!tell <your nick> about <topic>" in the channel, you can just "/msg dpkg topic". See <bot help> and http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn more and browse my factoids on-line at http://ircbots.debian.net/ . Also ask me about <judd>, which is another bot and window into the Ultimate Debian Database.
15:12<sney>anyway, dnf was uploaded to sid 4 days ago, and tracker.debian.org/dnf doesn't say there is anything wrong, so it will likely migrate to bullseye automatically tomorrow or so
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15:16<Joaquinito2051>Tomorrow will be migrated to bullseye dnf???
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15:18<Joaquinito2051>sney Tomorrow a dnf will be migrated to bullseye???
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15:19<sney>Joaquinito2051: migrations from sid to testing usually take 5 days. dnf was uploaded to sid on 2021-02-06. 5 days after 2021-02-06 is 2021-02-11, aka tomorrow.
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15:20<Joaquinito2051>sney So, the migration will be completed tomorrow???
15:21<sney>Joaquinito2051: you will have to check tomorrow and see.
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15:22<Joaquinito2051>sney So, yes or yes will be migrated???
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15:23<Joaquinito2051>sney Hello???
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15:26<Joaquinito2051>Hello, will be migrated yes or yes ???
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15:32<sney>Joaquinito2051: I cannot promise that it will definitely migrate tomorrow, but it looks like it will. that is all I know.
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15:39<Joaquinito2051>sney So, i have checked, and Debian packages migrated to bullseye today after 5 days, you know this???
15:39<sney>I believe I said that already
15:40<Joaquinito2051>sney Tomorrow dnf will be migrated???
15:41<sney>Joaquinito2051: it doesn't matter how many times you ask, I will tell you the same thing
15:44<Joaquinito2051>sney So, dnf will be migrated tomorrow??? Yes or no???
15:45<sney>Joaquinito2051: you're either stupid or trolling, either way I am tired of responding. try reading the answers I already gave you. prueba leer.
15:46<Joaquinito2051>sney OK, i understand.
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15:51<code4fun>Quick permissions question if anyone knows. I have a service running (Resilio Sync) which runs under a user account created when it was installed. It needs to be able to modify timestamps on files when syncing them. This is not allowed. Is there a way to designate, for a given folder recursively, that the specified user account is allowed to modify file timestamps?
15:52<Joaquinito2051>code4fun No, is not allowed.
15:52<code4fun>ok, was hoping there was some admin thing I could do :(
15:53<Joaquinito2051>code4fun OK, any thing you can talk with me.
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15:54<code4fun>thanks :)
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15:56<pastly>How can I tell if a package upgrade will automatically restart the corresponding service? Alternatively, how can I make unattended-upgrades do that? The specific package is tor.
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15:56<Joaquinito2051>pastly Yes, the service will be restarted.
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15:57<Joaquinito2051>pastly After a package upgrade.
15:57<pastly>Joaquinito2051: thanks. is that true for all (or ~all) packages, thus the answer is obvious?
15:57<Joaquinito2051>pastly Yes, all packages will be restarted.
15:58<pastly>tyvm
15:58<sarnold>Joaquinito2051: where's that defined?
15:58<sarnold>pastly: afaik you've got to look in the package postinst script to find out
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15:58<jmcnaught>If all packages restarted their services then we would not need tools like needrestart and checkrestart
15:58<duclicsic>Joaquinito2051 is trolling, I suggest ignoring them
15:59<pastly>ok thank you, rest of channel. lol
15:59<pastly>(gotta go afk but will see any additional tips/info and ask follow up questions later)
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16:04<code4fun>gues I need to use the proper command....
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16:48<walfin_>os-prober fails to find the currently active Debian system. LVM on LUKS, lvs outputs the root lvm volume correctly. Any ideas appreciated!
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17:09<perdido>Hello...New User Here
17:09<sarnold>welcome aboard perdido
17:10<battaglin>welcome perdido
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17:10<sarnold>I guess we came on too strong
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17:13<IPFreely>lol
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17:21<walfin_>I figured out I don't need os-prober to do that. The current system is covered by grub itself since it checks /boot. Learned something new.
17:21<walfin_>I simply never called grub-update in the current system, thinking grub-install would already find the running system
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18:48<steve>hello
18:48-!-steve is now known as Guest12862
18:49<sarnold>hi
18:49<Guest12862>do people still use irc in the age of slack and discord?
18:49<sarnold>yes, but not like ~20 years ago
18:50<Guest12862>i remmeber the community here is like 2005
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18:50<Guest12862>it was vibrant
18:50<Guest12862>havent used irc in over a decade
18:50<sarnold>welcome back :)
18:51<sarnold>it's still imho the best place to get advice, it just takes longer than those days, hehe
18:51<Guest12862>wow- sad how corporate everything is now
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18:52<Guest12862>i feel like computers-as-a-hobby is something of the past
18:52<Guest12862>i remember when HP-UX had bitchx irc client bundled with it, man how times have changes
18:52*Guest12862 feels nostalgic
18:53<sarnold>wow, really? granted that was the best at one time, but I figured name alone wouldn't have let that one fly on hp-ux :) heh
18:53<Guest12862>oh ya- up until the end of hp-ux
18:53<Guest12862>last commercial unix i used was solaris, are there even still commercial unixes?
18:54<Guest12862>everything is linux now
18:54<Guest12862>(for servers)
18:54<Guest12862>and mac/ios users
18:54<Guest12862>even using windows is rare breath of fresh air
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18:56<magicuser>is tor
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18:59<sarnold>Guest12862: I know some places with aix still going
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18:59<sarnold>Guest12862: I'm sure oracle's got loads of solaris in their cloud, too
18:59<magicuser>is the torbrowser-launcher package unsupported by buster? I have it installed on buster, but I don't remember if it was through buster-backports or just buster, but apt prints this on apt-get upgrade : The following packages have been kept back: torbrowser-launcher
19:01<Guest12862>sarnold: i'm sure they do, but i don't know anyone who is doing anything new with solaris
19:01<Guest12862>sarnold: i used to administer solaris machines with zfs in college, 2009-2010. They were running CDE lol
19:02<sarnold>*ow*
19:02<sarnold>I've not heard anything super-polite about CDE..
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19:03<ddhash>hi
19:03<Guest12862>sarnold: back when you had actual servers. they were heavy. the rails would cut you. the server room was loud lol
19:03<Guest12862>sarnold: now everything is "could".
19:03<Guest12862>cloud*
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19:03<sarnold>Guest12862: I've got one of those in the basement, looking to add more eventually; I close the door when I want to watch tv or listen to music, hehe. that's just *one* system
19:04<Guest12862>sarnold: are you worried about your power bill?
19:04<sarnold>I don't think it actually changed it much
19:05<Sqrt{not}>,v torbrowser-launcher
19:05<judd>Package: torbrowser-launcher on amd64 -- jessie/contrib: 0.1.9-1+deb8u3; stretch-backports-sloppy/contrib: 0.3.2-10~bpo9+1; buster-backports/contrib: 0.3.3-3~bpo10+1; bullseye/contrib: 0.3.3-3; sid/contrib: 0.3.3-3
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19:05<magicuser>I think I figured it out. found some answers on blogs and I apt-get install the package again. it installed some dependencies and is not kept back anymore
19:05<magicuser>thanks judd!
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19:20*pastly is back to ask more about tor automatically restarting on upgrade
19:21<pastly>In the deb, this line is in the postinst file. It looks like it does what I want, but I don't see runit-helper anywhere.
19:21<pastly>NAME='tor' ENABLE='yes' ONUPGRADE='restart' /lib/runit-helper/runit-helper postinst "$@"
19:22<pastly>Is this executed in a chroot or something where that path exists?
19:24<pastly>here is the postinst script in case it helps. https://paste.debian.net/plain/1185006
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19:25<bremner>runit! goodness.
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19:27<Sqrt{not}>,i runit-helper
19:27<judd>Package runit-helper (admin, optional) in buster/amd64: dh-runit implementation detail. Version: 2.8.6; Size: 4.8k; Installed: 16k; Homepage: https://salsa.debian.org/runit-team/dh-runit
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19:35<pastly>I'm not smart enough for that to help.
19:36<pastly>I guess I know for sure that it's restarted on upgrade, because I just upgraded and it restarted ... and fuckin broke (unrelated, not #debian's fault)
19:36<pastly>thanks
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19:45<Sqrt{not}>pastly, I don't know what it is supposed to do, but if you want it, it is in a package of that name
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19:50<olasd>pastly: the restart of services by the package manager is handled by invoke-rc.d commands in postinst scripts. You can use policy-rc.d to control the behavior of invoke-rc.d (e.g. to tell it not to restart certain services)
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