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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-02-11

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01:55<mikoxyz>Hey, everyone; is there a way to list corrupt files on a BTRFS partition? Can't seem to get a list of them using btrfs scrub, even though dmesg clearly states that there are 2 corrupt files.
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01:57<muu>hi
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01:59<jm_>mikoxyz: maybe try #btrfs on freenode
02:00<mikoxyz>jm_: Thanks!
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02:43<kavan>Are there any projects for debian GSoC 2021 ?
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02:46<Joaquinito2051>Hello, dnf is now in bullseye???
02:48<Joaquinito2051>,v dnf
02:48<judd>Package: dnf on amd64 -- sid: 4.5.2-5
02:48<Joaquinito2051>Stills in sid.
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02:49<kavan>yes it's in bullseye
02:49<kavan>https://packages.debian.org/source/bullseye/dnf
02:49<Joaquinito2051>https://packages.debian.org/source/testing/dnf
02:51<Joaquinito2051>,v dnf
02:51<judd>Package: dnf on amd64 -- sid: 4.5.2-5
02:52<Joaquinito2051>https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/dnf
02:55<mikoxyz>Whaaat, why?
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02:55<rnm>ahh.. so this dnf are same like dnf on fedora?
02:55<kavan>I guess no
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02:57<vhns>It is the same as in Fedora/RHEL/CentOS
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02:59<rnm>I like dnf.. so it also can rollback via dnf history?
02:59<kavan>package is same but work as normal dnf in Fedora/RHEL you have to configure many things along side
03:01<kavan>mm use flatpak if you really want to rollback
03:02<kavan>Fedora slowly moving many apps to flatpak, and flatpak work like chram in debian too.
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03:17<Joaquinito2051>Package it a new version. https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf/archive/4.6.0.tar.gz
03:17<Joaquinito2051>I need to upload a new dnf package.
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04:08<Joaquinito2051>Hello again, there is a new version of dnf. 4.6.0.
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04:10<Joaquinito2051>,v dnf
04:10<judd>Package: dnf on amd64 -- sid: 4.5.2-5
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04:16<Joaquinito2051>,v dnf
04:16<judd>Package: dnf on amd64 -- sid: 4.5.2-5
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06:08<tmy>hi, what could be messing with my resolv.conf. I have opened vpn using networkmanager-openconnect and it adds few nameservers to resolv.conf but after ~5h its reset to default resolv.conf from dhpc
06:09<Wulf>tmy: resolvconf / openresolv
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06:09<grawity>is your resolv.conf a symlink elsewhere or just a regular file?
06:09<grawity>does it have a comment mentioning which program generated it, in both situations?
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06:11<tmy>grawity: regular file, it doesn't have comments. Just 3 lines domain, search and my local nameserver
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06:17<tmy>ah, as I'm using networkmanager, should I remove all all but localhost from /etc/network/interfaces?
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06:20<xonorc>Hi peeps! Got WoL working fine on my machine. I am able to shutdown via the command line and and start-up the machine sending the "magic packet". However when removing the power cable and inserting back in then the WoL function does not work. Anyone had a similar issue?
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08:24<tarzeau>why was owncloud removed from debian?
08:24<tarzeau>ah #945718
08:24<judd>Bug https://bugs.debian.org/945718 in src:owncloud-client (closed, bullseye, sid): «owncloud-client: Python2 removal in sid/bullseye»; severity: serious; opened: 2019-11-28; last modified: 2020-11-01.
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11:52<bubbledragon>is there a terminal command to clear all notifications? I have a notification banner (from firefox) that won't go away
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11:58<alex11>bubbledragon, um... what's the notification banner? is it "please upgrade firefox now" or something?
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11:59<bubbledragon>it was about a tab on the debian website alex
11:59<bubbledragon>I ended up restarting the gnome shell, couldn't find a process relating to notifications to kill
12:01<bubbledragon>I had clicked on a link on bugs.debian.org from irc yesterday and firefox today was really determined to let me know about it
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12:03<Celelibi>Is there a way to cross post a bug report to two packages?
12:03<Celelibi>I noticed an ABI mismatch. AFAICT the struct layout on x64 is incompatible with builds on i386. But maybe it's the library that uses it that should be more careful.
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12:06<bremner>You can clone a bug, but if you're not sure leave to the maintainer to re-assign the bug
12:07<bremner>it's not completely obvious that it is a bug, absent some Multiarch claims by the package
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14:17<spofka>hi
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14:33<AnDrE>Это что поиск rus?
14:34<jmcnaught>!ru
14:34<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.oftc.net) - debian-russian@lists.debian.org
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14:42<jabual>hi
14:43<petn-randall>hi jabual
14:45<jabual>thanks for reply, i don´t read anyone
14:45<petn-randall>jabual: That's normal for IRC, you won't see any backlog. Rest assured, there are many people logged in here.
14:47<jabual>thanks petn-randall. very kind for reply
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14:55<petn-randall>jabual: Do you have a Debian support question?
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15:01<petn-randall>!next
15:01<dpkg>Another happy customer leaves the building.
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15:11<devicenull>I'm hitting an issue where my preseed is stopping at the end with 'Finish the installation' selected, rather then rebooting the machine. I don't see anything super relevant in syslog, any ideas what this would be?
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15:12<demo_>hello
15:12<devicenull>syslog just says `'Menu item 'finish-install' succeeded but requested to be left unconfigured'`
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15:13<demo_>I need help
15:13<demo_> installing mx
15:13<sney>!mxlinux
15:13<dpkg>MX Linux is a popular distribution <based on debian>. It is not supported in #debian. Support is available on their forum: https://forum.mxlinux.org/. It is related to <antix>. If you are new to linux, or want a distro with IRC support, try Debian instead: https://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian
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15:13<demo_>someone pls
15:13<sney>demo_: read the message from dpkg, you are in the wrong place
15:14<demo_>okay thx
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15:56<devicenull>oh.. I think it's because I removed `build-essential` from pkgsel
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15:57<sney>I haven't played with preseed recently, but I do know that b-e isn't required for the installer to finish
15:58<devicenull>I mean that's what the docs say
15:58<devicenull>but that seems to be wrong... I readded the build-essential and it works fine now
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15:59<sney>none of the standard installer tasks include it. strange that it's needed in your case. maybe one of b-e's actual binary packages is what you actually needed? it's a pretty big meta.
15:59<sney>!b-e
15:59<dpkg>build-essential is a package designed to help you create executables and build Debian packages. If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables or can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to "apt install build-essential". If you don't plan to compile things, you don't need this package. See also <headers>, <qotd49>.
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16:04<devicenull>oh maybe I lied, it's still not completing afterwards
16:04<devicenull>hmm
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16:05<devicenull>https://www.dropbox.com/s/ggtbvxtjbfnd04a/installfail.png?dl=0
16:05<devicenull>maybe it's the clock failure? that only seems to be a warning though
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16:31<rno>maybe bios default boots the installer media,the installer disk/media could be removed then trying booting the newly installed system
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16:32<rno>devicenull: if install is done then rebooting with ctrl+alt del would be ok
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16:39<devicenull>eh
16:39<devicenull>I'm not asking how I can reboot the system
16:39<devicenull>I'm trying to setup a preseed for fully automated installs, having to ctrl-alt-del is less then ideal
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16:41<rno>ok then I don't know that is doing the installer is restarted.
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16:47<rno>or not ending
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16:52<devicenull>it's definitely just not ending, it's not rebooting
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17:20<rno>devicenull: maybe rebooting with a command https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apbs05.en.html#preseed-hooks
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17:27<spofka>hi
17:27<rno>hi
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17:30<spofka>rno do you know where i can get tutorials on making a simple file system
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17:32<rno>man mkfs
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17:32<rno>apropos mkfs
17:32<sarnold>spofka: what are you trying to do?
17:33<spofka>rno lemme look that up
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17:33<spofka>sarnold i need to sharpen my skills eventually aiming to be a debian dev
17:34<sarnold>spofka: are you looking to write a FUSE filesystem? in-kernel filesystem? or are you looking to do some system administration tasks?
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17:41<sig_9>not sure what happened but after a few days my touchpad is no longer detected "No Touchpad detected"
17:41<sig_9>egrep -i 'synap|alps|etps|elan' /proc/bus/input/devices with no output
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17:43<rno>sig_9: I'd look laptop functions, most laptops are having keys combination to deactivate the touchpad
17:44<sig_9>rno: this was working for several days
17:44<sig_9>even after reboot the moust pointer is froze and touchpad no longer works.
17:44<rno>could have been hit unintentionnaly, specific keys depend on laptop, I'd search the laptop manual
17:45<sig_9>and in KDE Settings "input settings: "No touchpad device found"
17:45<rno>this is to avoid moving the pointer while typing
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17:45<sig_9>is a laptop that is from like 2008
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17:46<spofka>sarnold FUSE filesystem
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17:48<sig_9>rno: well just booted an older kernel and it works....
17:48-!-mode/#debian [+l 749] by debhelper
17:48<sig_9>this is testing btw
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17:49<rno>it can be found a human readable way in /dev/input/by-path
17:50<sig_9>xinput list shows all and works in this last kernel but in the latest it shows nothing in xinput list
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17:51<sig_9>5.10.0-2 works, 5.10.0-3 doesn't
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18:33<devicenull>rno: I figured it out, apparently when I switched to `in-target` instead of `chroot` in post-command, it broke
18:33<devicenull>I cannot explain why
18:33<devicenull>switched back to chroot, and now it's good
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18:57<Second>How do I find out if my pc is 32 or 64 bit if I have a 32 bit os running on it but im not sure if its a 32 bit pc
18:57<Second>?
18:58<Second>can i somehow find out from the hardware
18:59<sarnold>Second: try lscpu
19:01<Second>it ssays CPU po-mode(s): 32-bit,64-bit
19:02<Second>I´m assuming
19:02<Second>it can run both ?
19:04<sarnold>yes
19:04<Second>Architecture: i686
19:05<sney>some early x86_64 cpus were not very good at running a full 64-bit OS
19:06<Second>the internet says i686 is 32-bit but im glad I´ve you guys thanx
19:06<sarnold>hopefully that field is just reporting what the current OS is..
19:06<sarnold>you could download a live instance of an OS onto a USB stick and try booting it up to find out
19:07<Second>sney what does that mean
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19:07<sarnold>some CPU makers will also maintain databases online for their CPUs with gobs of details; intel's ARK is decent enough.
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19:07<sney>Second: it means that even if the cpu is 64-bit, it *might* be better to use a 32-bit OS.
19:08<sney>really, what is the cpu model?
19:08<Second>Model: 0
19:08<Second>Model name: AMD A6-5200 APU with Radeon(TM) HD Graphics
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19:09<sarnold>hooray, amd's drivers page for that include a bunch of 64 bit things https://www.amd.com/en/support/previous-drivers/apu/amd-series-processors/amd-a6-series-apu-for-desktops/a6-5200-radeon-hd-8400
19:09<sarnold>(it's probably best to ignore the actual software there)
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19:11<Second>sooo it´s normal 64-bit and I can run Debian on it ?
19:13<sarnold>I'd expect that to work fine, yeah
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19:15<Second>this is my only pc right now so i´m kinda nervous but lessgo
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19:16<Sqrt{not}>Second, like sarnold suggested, you could download a live instance of debian onto a USB, and try it out without installing
19:17<blast007>https://www.debian.org/CD/live/
19:17<sney>a6-5200 was released in 2013, definitely a modern 64-bit chip
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19:21<Second>when tying to format usb: the partition cannot be modified because it contains a partition table,
19:22<Second>please reinitialize the layout of the whole device
19:22<Second>heelp
19:22<sney>there is no "format" step in writing an iso to a usb stick
19:22<sarnold>is this in relation to putting the debian installer / live image on a usb stick? or is this a separate problem?
19:23<Second>separate problem
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19:24<Second>i wanted to format before writing the usb
19:24<Second>writing the iso un usb *
19:24<sney>the iso overwrites the usb drive, formatting is pointless
19:24<sney>just write the image to the drive
19:24<Sqrt{not}>!win32diskimager
19:24<dpkg>win32diskimager is much more reliable than <rufus> or <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from https://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ . Adjust the file mask from *.img to *.* if it doesn't show Debian .iso images. See <usb install> and <install debian> for further details.
19:25<Sqrt{not}>!install manual
19:25<dpkg>The Installation Guide for Debian 10 "Buster" can be found at https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/installmanual . See also <errata> and <buster release notes>.
19:26<Sqrt{not}>Second, I assume you are doing this write in windows. The install manual has some advice about writing debian images.
19:26<Sqrt{not}>!usb install
19:26<dpkg>You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. Use http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to write images from Windows. For BIOSes not capable of USB boot, ask me about <plop>.
19:26<Second>sney: does it also overwrite other ISO images because thats what im trying to format from he usb
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19:31<Sqrt{not}>Second, the debian live image will be approx 3.5 GB. It will overwrite the first approx 3.5 GB of your USB stick, whatever is on the remainder of the USB will not be overwritten, but the partition table will be overwritten, so you would need some work to find them again.
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19:46<deb>Test
19:46<Sqrt{not}>hi deb
19:47<spofka>Segmentation fault
19:47<spofka>hehe
19:47<spofka>worst feeling ever
19:47<deb>Oh hey mark
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19:59<dabian>please get 11 out. nothing to update here
19:59<dabian>boring
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20:02<Sqrt{not}>!wwbr
20:02<dpkg>Now Debian "Bullseye" is the current testing branch as of 2019-07-06 and it will be released "when it's ready."
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20:03<dabian>it's gonna be "bullseye"?
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20:04<sney>that's the codename for testing, which will be released as debian 11, yes
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20:09<Sqrt{not}>deb, are you here on the live system now?
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20:10<deb>No im on android
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20:13<deb>Great now my bios is stuck
20:14<deb>🤡
20:14<deb>Again after I pulled out the battery to reset it
20:15<deb>Heelp
20:15<sney>deb: we can only help if we know what's actually happening. people on irc can't see your screen.
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20:17<deb>Its just the biostar start up screen where it gives me the options Tab to show text screen Del to enter bios setup f9 to select boot device and f12 to enter bio flasher utillity
20:19<sney>if it's "stuck" press tab and see if it tells you more.
20:19<sney>otherwise, reset it again, and/or turn it all the way off and then back on
20:19<deb>It doesnt do anything no matter what i press
20:19<deb>I guess i have to reset it again
20:21<deb>Wait you cant see my screen 🤡🤡
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21:47<h-var>how does linux work when you watch a 24fps video in full screen mode on a 144Hz monitor?
21:48<h-var>does monitor refresh rate sync with the video, or stays at cap?
21:48<h-var>factory that is
21:48<h-var>with v-sync, freesync, and g-sync off
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22:06<sney>with framerate/refresh syncing disabled, your gpu renders the video as fast as it can, and your monitor refreshes at its normal rate. this may be visibly apparent or it may not, depending on various factors.
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22:08<sney>I think displays are typically tuned so that 24fps or 30fps videos look fine with default settings, regardless of what the hard numbers are
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