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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-02-14

---Logopened Sun Feb 14 00:00:38 2021
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00:14<pcdummy>,v binutils
00:14<judd>Package: binutils on amd64 -- jessie: 2.25-5+deb8u1; stretch: 2.28-5; buster: 2.31.1-16; bullseye: 2.35.1-7; sid: 2.35.1-7; experimental: 2.36+2.35.2-1
00:15<pcdummy>nice one
00:15<pcdummy>dpkg: sid
00:15<dpkg>sid is, like, the codename for <unstable>, named after the kid in Toy Story that breaks toys. The great thing about running sid is that when it breaks, you get to keep ALL the pieces!!
00:16<pcdummy>testing -> unstable -> experimental ?
00:16<pcdummy>or bullseye -> sid -> experimental?
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00:20<pcdummy>dpkg: experimental
00:20<dpkg>experimental is the bleeding edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit/DANGEROUS/untrustworthy/etc for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does _not_ support experimental. For an actual description, see section 4.6.4.3 of the Developer's Reference. http://packages.debian.org/experimental/
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00:25<Sqrt{not}>pcdummy, testing == bullseye (now) ; unstable == sid (always) .. Other than that, can you rephrase your question ?
00:26<pcdummy>Sqrt{not}: you answered, I thought for years testing == sid
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01:14<Guest13154>hi
01:15<Guest13154>is there someone out there
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01:17<chip1>hi
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02:12<x_0>hi
02:12<x_0>l
02:12<x_0>sl
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03:26<deliver>http://releases.ubuntu.com/20.10/ why didn`t work the download
03:27<grove>!ubuntu
03:27<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
03:27<deliver>THX admin
03:28<deliver>I think ubuntu is debian for beginners
03:28<grove>It's not
03:28<deliver>I am stakin
03:28<grove>And no matter what you think, ubuntu is offtopic here
03:28<grove>!doesn't work
03:28<dpkg>"Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>.
03:29<grove>!de
03:29<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - debian-user-german@lists.debian.org
03:30<deliver>you are funny with your text blocks
03:31<deliver>I laugh me the ass up
03:31<grove>(I guess there's also a german-speaking channel for ubuntu)
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03:32<Unit193>That'd be ircs://chat.freenode.net/#ubuntu-de for German support on Ubuntu.
03:32<deliver>thx
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03:33<grove>None of what I wrote (or made dpkg say - standard texts are often better, they don't miss anything) was meant to be funny
03:35<deliver>I`m amused means funny
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04:15<milkt>hello
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05:04<sysadmin>Pi is a new digital currency developed by Stanford PhDs you can mine on your phone. To claim your piece of the Pi https://minepi.com/ilkde and use (ilkde) as your invitation code.
05:08<Sora>im not clicking that link
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05:10<pi__>anybody is here?
05:10<bittin^_>yeah
05:12<pi__>hi!
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05:14<bittin^_>hi
05:14<Santosh2021>@debhelper
05:14<Santosh2021>@debhelper Hi
05:15<Santosh2021>can some on help me
05:15<pi__>can you speak chinese?
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05:15<radhitya>Hello
05:16<Santosh2021>hi
05:16<bittin^_>nope
05:16<radhitya>i thought irc are dead
05:16<milkt>!tell pi__ about chinese
05:17<milkt>!ask
05:17<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ See <smart questions><errors>.
05:17<bittin^_>https://chinese-team.pages.debian.net/
05:17<radhitya>who have try devuan ?
05:17<wb9688>!devuan
05:17<dpkg>Devuan (https://devuan.org/) is a Debian <derivative>, meant to avoid dependencies on <systemd>. Not supported in #debian, please see #devuan on chat.freenode.net for support.
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05:18<radhitya>huh, bot?
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05:18<Santosh2021>I have a problem with reverse proxy config
05:18<grove>radhitya: Yes, dpkg is a bot
05:19<radhitya>no, i mean wb9688
05:19<wb9688>Why would I be a bot?
05:21<radhitya>because you act like bot, sorry :D
05:21<grove>Santosh2021: Be more specific
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05:21<grove>Why do you think wb9688 acted like a bot?
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05:25<radhitya>because it is too short to answer (! devuan), usually active users always use sentences like, "you can join the devuan channel"
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05:40<Santosh2021>grove : new learner unable to find a reference article to deploy apache reverse proxy
05:41<Santosh2021>grove : use apache reverse proxy on devian 10.8
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05:51<kavan>Hello, I'm looking for GSoC mentor. Where should I communicate with existing debian devs for GSoC related projects ?
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05:52<kavan>ping: formorer
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06:07<oeno>hello! using the latest buster, is there a way to get netfilter to log the contents of a udp packet? in particular i want to log the domain name in a dns query, but if i can just log the raw udp payload that's fine too.
06:08<oeno>the context is that i have netfilter configured to reject all outgoing traffic except the services i've configured to use a certain proxy, and i want to find out what software is doing the dns query so i can either disable it or configure it to use the proxy.
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06:09<oeno>i have nftables set up to log the user and group id that sent the packet, but that's 0 in this case which isn't very informative.
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06:11<oeno>(and i can see that it's a udp packet to port 53 on my local gateway, which acts as a caching dns)
06:12<oeno>wireshark doesn't help since the packet never actually reaches the network interface.
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06:16<esum>afaik it's impossible to log the content of the packet you want becouse netfilter does not got that deep into the packet
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06:18<oeno>esum, thanks. is there any way to maybe redirect the whole packet to a userspace process, or something like that?
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06:19<oeno>or to a virtual network interface that just dumps the content of all received packets to a file...
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06:22<esum>Maybe it's possible to do what you want using NFLOG (look into NFLOG section in man 8 iptables-extensions) and ulogd
06:23<oeno>esum, thanks, i'll have a look!
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06:48<oeno>esum, nflog works great. turned out something is sending a dns request for the local system's hostname, but i can't figure out what it sending it...
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07:10<oeno>it's the exim4-base script in /etc/cron.daily, apparently.
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08:25<Paerox>I recently replaced Windows 10 with Debian on my Lenovo L480. Very happy with the performance so far! Machine runs several times faster now :-)
08:26<drebs>Paerox, way to go!
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08:27<Paerox>Only thing I'm struggeling with is understanding how to set up hibernation. I mean, does it involve changes to the grub config?
08:28<Paerox>Not sure where to start
08:29<Mister00X>Paerox: you mean suspend to disk or suspend to ram?
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08:30<Paerox>Mister00X: Suspend to ram is already working I believe. Can suspend the machine. But, hibernation, as in suspend to disk is not an option.
08:31<Mister00X>Paerox: Than you have less swap on your system than ram
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08:31<Mister00X>you need at least the same amount of swap space for this to work
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08:32<Paerox>"systemctl hibernate" says that the sleep verb is not supported
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08:32<Mister00X>2021-02-14T14:31:37 <Mister00X> you need at least the same amount of swap space for this to work
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08:33<Paerox>Oh, I see now. I have 7,55G of ram, but 7,45G of swap
08:34<Mister00X>Paerox: suspend to disk writes your entire ram into swap so it needs to be => ram
08:34<Paerox>Is it possible to resize a swap partition on a live running system, or do I need to do it from a USB-stick?
08:34<Mister00X>Paerox: Depends
08:34<Mister00X>if you need to shrink your / partition for this no
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08:35<Paerox>Mister00X: In my case, I would shrink my /home partition, witch is only 4% full
08:36<Mister00X>Paerox: that should work but you will need to unmount it
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08:36<Mister00X>Paerox: Im not sure if you can do that while beeing loged in as this user
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08:37<Paerox>Mister00X: That makes sense
08:37<Paerox>Do it as root user then
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08:45<Paerox>Mister00X: I managed to resize /home with KDE Partition manager without having to log out. swap is exactly the same size as ram now. How to proceed from here?
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08:49<Mister00X>Paerox: did you enabled swap again?
08:50<ach>o
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08:51<Paerox>Mister00X: Yes, I enabled swap again
08:52<Mister00X>and the hibernation option is not available? In that case try to reboot or maybe just logout and login again
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08:53<Paerox>Hibernation option has not magically appeared. Will try logout and login again first.
08:54<Paerox>brb
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08:56<Paerox>Logging out and back in again did not give me a hibernation option. Will try a reboot now.
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08:58<Paerox>Back from reboot. Hibernation is still unavailable. Perhaps I need to add "resume=" in /etc/default/grub ?
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08:59<Mister00X>Paerox: you could try update-grub2 first
09:00<Paerox>Mister00X: I might have missed that. Will do it now to make sure.
09:00<webchatter>Hi, if I "cp debian.iso /dev/sdc" to USB stick "sha*sum /dev/sdc1" should equal hash offered on cdimage.debian.org?
09:02<Mister00X>Paerox: you could also issue a update-initramfs -u -k all
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09:03<Paerox>Mister00X: did update-grub2 and update-initramfs. Thinking a reboot is in order now
09:04<Mister00X>try it
09:04<Paerox>alright. brb
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09:05<abrotman>webchatter: I doubt you want to copy it to a partition, you probably want the raw device? You should be able to use the hash against the ISO image
09:05<rno>webchatter: /dev/sdc is a volume, a disk. /dev/sdc1 a partition. checksums are about the file, the .iso
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09:07<Paerox>Mister00X: Back from reboot. Hibernation is not available.
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09:07<Mister00X>Paerox: strange. Is your swap listed in your fstab?
09:08<milkt>webchatter: if size of iso file is N byte, checksum of first N byte of /dev/sdc should match
09:08<webchatter>Checksums of debian-netinstall...iso and cp copied /dev/sdc1 are equal. But I'm not sure it's manipulated or I'm wrong
09:09<milkt>webchatter: what command did you use to calculate checksum?
09:09<Paerox>Mister00X: Yes, swap is in my fstab as /dev/mapper/swap
09:10<webchatter>sha512sum /dev/sd*1 replace * with b or c. I'm not sure which blk
09:11<webchatter>I need to verify secure installation media. It's hard believe the created 10.8 netinstall USB stick is clean because of many anoying bugs. I already installed Debian jessie from CD image to create bootable 10.8 stick.
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09:11<Mister00X>Paerox: It just worked(tm) for me when I added swap space. you could try to make it larger than ram and try again
09:11<TobiX>webchatter: You need to sha512sum the same device you used for writing the iso to, so sdc instead of sdc1, but you also need to stop at the size of the iso
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09:12<Paerox>Mister00X: Hah, okey. Will increase the size of swap by a few % and try again.
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09:13<TobiX>I would suggest to just "cmp /dev/sdc netinstall.iso" to verify the write was correct...
09:14<Paerox>Oh! Perhaps hibernation is not supported when swap is inside a logical volume? Can try to make a swap partition outside of LVM
09:14<Helle>Paerox: that is supported
09:15<Paerox>Helle: Oh, In that case I will just make swap a bit bigger then
09:16<Helle>resumes work by first actually loading up an initrd/initramfs, which has all the tooling to do lvm2, etc
09:17<Paerox>Helle: Did'nt know that before :-)
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09:18<Helle>it then instead of mounting your root, etc, detects it's in a resume scenario (by finding the swap, etc) and fires up the resume
09:18<Helle>it's a really neat trick
09:19<Helle>but it also is weird space as it just overwrites everything that happened before then
09:19<webchatter>rno TobiX: installer.iso on filesystem and copied /dev/sdc1, first partition on created stick, has same checksums. But I'm not sure It's normal
09:20<milkt>webchatter: did you copied iso to /dev/sdc or /dev/sdc1?
09:20<Paerox>Helle: Not sure what you mean. Initramfs overwrites everything in RAM from swap?
09:20<webchatter>to /dev/sdc. This created 2 partitions
09:21<Helle>Paerox: the resume code in the kernel does, the initramfs just serves to get the kernel in the state that it can access the swap file
09:21<webchatter>just cp not dd
09:21<Helle>s/file/partition/
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09:21<milkt>not sure what will happen when you calculate checksum of /dev/sdc1 though, i recommend calculating or comparing checksum against device not partition
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09:22<Helle>Paerox: imagine swap in lvm2, the kernel can't without tools find that swap partition, so the initramfs does that, then tells the kernel, this device node, resume from that
09:22<milkt>as TobiX suggested above, or using something like "head -c SIZE /dev/sdc | sha512sum" or such
09:22<Paerox>Helle: That makes sense. :-)
09:22<webchatter>It's easier to verify against online checksums if partition is hashed only. They are equal in this case
09:23<Paerox>Well, swap is now resized from exactly 8Gb to 8,25Gb. Will try a reboot again now to see if anything changes.
09:24*Paerox does a reboot
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09:24<webchatter>I hope they should equal :)
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09:27<Paerox>Back from reboot. Hibernation is still unavailable
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09:29<Mister00X>Paerox: did you updated your initramfs again?
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09:30<Paerox>Mister00X: I did not. Will do that again now
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09:32<Paerox>Mister00X: I need to run update-initramfs every time I change swap partition size?
09:33<Paerox>*afterwards
09:33<Mister00X>Paerox: I think you need the initramfs to be newly generated with the information that swap is now big enough for resume
09:34<Paerox>Mister00X: Your logic makes sense. Will try a reboot now.
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09:36<Paerox>Mister00X: Back again. Still no hibernation
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09:38<Mister00X>Paerox: sorry Im out of ideas by now and I'll have to go soon
09:38<Helle>Paerox: how are you executing the suspend to disk, lowest level ? # echo -n "disk" > /sys/power/state
09:38<Helle>Paerox: and can we get some dmesg output
09:38<Helle>(or syslog including the dmesg)
09:38<Paerox>Mister00X: Don't be sorry. You did a good try!
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09:39<Paerox>Helle: So far, I've looked at the available suspend session options in Plasma and I've tried systemctl hibernate from cli
09:40<Helle>Paerox: alright, I would recommend the very low level command for it, but also the logs would be useful
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09:40<Helle>feel free to censor them somewhat, I really only need the last seconds before shutdown and the first few after startup
09:41<Paerox>Helle: /sys/power/state outputs "freeze" and "mem"
09:41<Helle>Paerox: hum
09:42<Helle>so it thinks it cannot suspend to disk
09:42<Paerox>Helle: Any keywords i should be grepping from dmesg?
09:42<Helle>Paerox: I don't recall them, but probably disk or suspend :)
09:42<Paerox>Will try!
09:44<rno>Paerox: maybe verify cat /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume
09:45<Paerox>rno: My resume file has the UUID for the swap partition
09:46<rno>is ok then
09:46<Paerox>"RESUME=UUID=9917f9bf-a6eb-4256-9d15-3774b86fbeef"
09:46<Helle>yeah, but the kernel believes it can't suspend to disk
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09:46<Helle>which is caused by a kernel or platform feature/driver not being compatible with it
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09:47<Paerox>could it be because of me forgetting to activate acpid.service after manually installing it?
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09:47<wb9688>Is Secure Boot enabled? On my PC suspending doesn't work when Secure Boot is enabled for some reason…
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09:47<amigo_relearn>hey everybody. I just copied and replaced a file in nautlius, but made that was a mistake. I was wondering if there is a good way to get the overwritten file back. I am on a btrfs filesystem so I was hoping that with copy on write there should be a good way to do that.
09:47<Paerox>acpid.service is dead currently
09:48<Paerox>wb9688: Not sure if secure boot is enabled. I did'nt change any settings when I wiped Windows
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09:49<Helle>Paerox: it's a BIOS/firmware setting
09:50<Paerox>Helle: I know secure boot is a firmware setting. I'm tempted now to reboot again to check.
09:51<wb9688>Though imho it should work even when it's enabled (at least with Windows it does)
09:51<Paerox>Did a systemctl enable acpid.service --now - systemd still says the "sleep" verb is unsupported
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09:53<Helle>Paerox: yeah, I mean if the kernel doesn't then systemd definitely can't
09:54<Paerox>Helle: hehe, true
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09:55<Paerox>Helle: "cat /sys/power/disk" yields "[disabled]" Is that interesting?
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09:58<Paerox>I asked DDG: Found this: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/114889/f20-unable-to-hibernate-sys-power-disk-disabled
09:58<Paerox>Will double check if secure boot is enabled
09:58<Helle>Paerox: what else is in there ?
09:58<Paerox>Helle: In /sys/power ?
09:59<Helle>/sys/power/disk
09:59<Helle>Paerox: anyway https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/power/basic-pm-debugging.html has the full debug guide, that I was basically going to step through
09:59<Paerox>Helle: There's nothing else. Just [disabled]
10:00<Paerox>Helle: Oh, thanks! Will have a look at that
10:00<Helle>Paerox: ooof, that sounds like you have some really weird disk drive setup
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10:02<Paerox>Helle: I tried LVM2 for this install. Thinking perhaps that was unnessesary
10:02<Helle>Paerox: I mean as in, AHCI vs NVMe vs other, etc
10:02<Helle>like, lower level would cause this
10:03<Paerox>Aha. I can tell you I have an nvme in this L480
10:03<Helle>in what mode ? pure NVMe mode ? if so, that may be a thing to look at in the kernel logs
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10:05<Paerox>Helle: how do I make sure I'm rocking pure NVMe mode?
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10:06<Helle>Paerox: uuuuh, that I have not checked recently
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10:07<Paerox>Helle: well, I get mentions of "nvme" when I grep dmesg
10:07<Helle>Paerox: yeah, but also mentions on restrictions or anything
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10:07<Helle>Paerox: like, the kernel at some point decided that there is no disk to suspend to, it tends to report that sort of stuff
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10:08<Paerox>Helle: Ooh! "dmesg|grep restricted" gave many hits!
10:08<Paerox>"Lockdown: swapper/0: hibernation is restricted; see https://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot"
10:10<Paerox>Will disable Secure Boot and see if anything changes
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10:16<Paerox>Turns out Secure Boot was the problem!
10:16<Paerox>I've learned something!
10:16<Paerox>:-)
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10:18<Paerox>Helle: "cat /sys/power/state" yields "freeze mem disk" now
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10:23<Paerox>Just tested hibernation. Machine boots up normally instead of resuming
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10:23<Paerox>Will have to look more in to this later. Hungry now.
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11:23<david>Sqrt{not} here is the link the screenshot that you requested yesterday... https://ibb.co/MnMGKZ3
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11:31<Sqrt{not}>david, Hi again. There is not much matching between UUIDs in the various pastebins. I think we need to step back and try to rationalize your usage of physical disks
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11:32<Sqrt{not}>David, I think one problem we have, at least in our talking about it, and probably to some extent in the machine understanding it is this:
11:33<David>okay... I'm listening
11:33<Sqrt{not}>David, when you are connecting and disconnecting disks, it changes which physical disk will be seen as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb so some of our troubleshooting is probably rather confused
11:34<David>I do sometimes mix the different sata cables... so i know what you mean...
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11:35<Sqrt{not}>David, A question I have left over from yesterday, is the content of the /etc/fstab you posted to a paste -- it looks like you are trying to have your root ("/") filesystem and swap on /dev/sda and your /media/Data on /dev/sdb
11:35<David>as long as I use the same sata cables that I've used before it shouldn't be a problem... but I'm trying not to connect and disconnect
11:37<Sqrt{not}>David, I think we should first address that. I suggest there should be no need to connect/disconnect/swap disks around. Dual booting Windows and debian is not difficult, and is safe if do it carefully
11:37<David>correct... the ("/" filesystem and swap /dev/sda and my /media/Data on /dev/sdb (where I have all my data files ...
11:38<Sqrt{not}>David, yes, but if you are disconnecting whatever was /dev/sda and connecting what is /dev/sdb then you never have both connected at the same time, do you?? Or do you have more than 2 disks connecting and disconnecting??
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11:40<Sqrt{not}>David, or, asked another way, what is on /dev/sda1 ?
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11:43<David>oh I'm all for it... I got into this mess, other than my lack of understanding, to have both Debian and Win drives connected... correct, on your last question... right now I have my dvd-rom, my "/" and /media/Data
11:43<David>I don't have my 2 windows hard drives connected... because right now Debian in legacy and Win10 on UEFI
11:44<Sqrt{not}>I think the dvd-rom doesn't matter. so are there only 2 total rewritable mass storage things (disk or SSD) ?
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11:44<Sqrt{not}>ahhhhhh, so you have 2 windows disks, and 2 debian disks, and you swap both every time ?
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11:47<David>so all I have right now is sata drives... even my dvd-rom... (so only thing that's connected are my 2 Debian sata drives and my dvd-rom drive) but you said dvd-rom doesn't matter...
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11:47<Sqrt{not}>ummm, I hope the dvd-rom doesn't matter? is it part of the operating system?
11:48<Sqrt{not}>does this computer have only a total of 2 sata connections?
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11:52<Sqrt{not}>No, I'm wrong, even the dvd drive is sata, so you probably have 4?
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12:00<David>sorry... brb
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12:10<Sqrt{not}>David, (I was just reviewing your pastebins, and I notice in this morning's https://ibb.co/MnMGKZ3 the 3TB is connected as /dev/sdb ; in yesterday's https://ibb.co/nBm5bVH the 3TB is /dev/sda
12:11<Sqrt{not}>and the 8TB is /dev/sdb )
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12:17<David>my bad... I'm back
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12:19<David>Sqrt{not} you're absolutely correct the 3 TB is my "root" sata drive, 8 TB my "where I have my data files backed up" and whatever it's left it's my dvd-rom
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12:21<David>I had to disconnect and reconnect so that i can go back and fourth between my win and Debian...
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12:22<David>do you think it would be a good idea for me to turn off my computer and connect the remaining 2 hard drives that belongs to Win10 and then turn on my computer to log back into Debian
12:23<Sqrt{not}>well, not necessarily. we should step back and look at the big picture first.
12:23<David>got it..
12:24<Sqrt{not}>If you have the windows set up to work in UEFI booting mode, and the debian working in BIOS mode, I don't recommend mixing them at the same time.
12:25<David>I was just looking at https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall so that i can convert Debian to UEFI
12:25<Sqrt{not}>That should be one of the big picture questions. Debian should work just fine in either BIOS mode or UEFI mode. ( whichever way it was installed, it will keep working that way)
12:25<Sqrt{not}>yes :) we are thinking along the same lines now
12:26<Sqrt{not}>I think that would simplify things somewhat, to have both OSes boot the same way -- one less thing to fiddle with when changing from one to the other
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12:26<David>just for the sake of simplicity... I'm thinking I should just switch the debian to UEFI...
12:27<Sqrt{not}>agree
12:27<David>okay, let me tackle that right now and when i'm done.. I'll be back to tackle the rest
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12:28<Sqrt{not}>I would also suggest at least thinking about some way to avoid plugging and unplugging disks all the time
12:28<Sqrt{not}>OK, sounds good
12:28<David>ya... I'm all for it...
12:28<David>so I'll be right back...
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12:29<David>by the ways what the most common IRC client that people use the most...
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12:29<David>I don't know if anyone has a recommendation for the ios
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12:59<grove>I don't remember who it was (and can't be bothered to check logs), but some people in here helped me realise I could install Debian on my "new" NAS (it took some time because the power supply died while I was trying to install after having replaced the motherboard) and use that to recover my zpool made with FreeBSD. I got it up yesterday and have again access to all that data+all that free ...
12:59<grove>... space - So big thanks
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13:59<keycollector>when i change my display config via xrandr in a vm, it just blinks at the correct display and then goes right back.
13:59<keycollector>no other output in the terminal, any way to troubleshoot this?
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14:24<keycollector>xorg logs shows "cannot allocate memory" yet i have plenty avalible
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14:24<David>I'm trying to log in using the debian live boot ... and I'm not able to log into the GUI...
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14:26<blast007>David: can you elaborate?
14:27<David>i've downloaded the debian-live-10.8.0-amd64-xfce.iso and I can't log into the GUI
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14:29<David>Sqrt{not} i've downloaded the debian-live-10.8.0-amd64-xfce.iso and I can't log into the GUI
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14:31<matt_the_hall>I have build-essential installed and libcc1-0 installed, but gcc cannot find cc1 (or thinks it does not exist)
14:31<matt_the_hall>whereis cc1 does not find cc1
14:31<matt_the_hall>help please
14:31<tech_exorcist>you may have to wait for an answer
14:32<tech_exorcist>wait for a long time
14:32<blast007>David: yeah, but what do you mean by "can't log into the GUI"?
14:32<tech_exorcist>idk the answer
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14:33<matt_the_hall>thanks tech_exorcist, I'll see if I get lucky
14:33<matt_the_hall>know of any other good channels to ask on?
14:33<tech_exorcist>assuming your OS is Debian, this channel is probably the best
14:33<tech_exorcist>also see https://zenhack.net/2017/01/08/public-service-announcement-irc-is-not-a-syncronous-medium.html
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14:39<blast007>David: do you not know the username/password? is there some error? what happens?
14:40<blast007>David_: ^
14:41<David_>would it be okay if I use ubuntu live cd/dvd instead of Debian ?
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14:42<blast007>David_: you can do whatever you want
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14:43<David_>it shouldn't case a problem converting my debian OS from BIOS to UEFI ?
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14:44<blast007>why can't you answer any of my questions?
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14:57<David_>oh sorry... going back and forth between laptop and getting the live cd to work..
14:58<David_>it doesn't come to the login page...
14:58<Sqrt{not}>David_, what happens with the GUI ? you shouldn't have to log in.. if you do, the user is "user" PW is "live"
14:58<Sqrt{not}>David_, how did you write the .iso to your USB ?
14:58<David_>oh... really
14:58<David_>no i burned it to dvd
14:59<Sqrt{not}>well, that should work.
15:00<Sqrt{not}>what does it come to instead of login? there probably is not login.
15:00<David_>ya... never mind disregard it ... I just had a brain fart
15:00<Sqrt{not}>heh, that's allowed. hopefully it's working now
15:00<David_>you're right
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15:02<leofuhr>Hi
15:03<David_>Sqrt{not} is this a good reference https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall or do you have a better one... just asking
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15:06<David_>Sqrt{not} can you explain the step 2 for me? it's under Using Live CD/USB
15:06<David_>it's a bit confusing
15:06<David_>broken system ?
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15:08<David_>debian wiki page is confusing... I'll try to find some other website
15:08<matt_the_hall>David, are you dual booting Debian or what?
15:09<matt_the_hall>My own question: Anyone know how to help GCC to find the cc1 program?
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15:10<David_>no just single boot...
15:10<David_>Sqrt{not} knows about my unique situation
15:10<Sqrt{not}>David_, do you already have an EFI partition on this disk?
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15:12<Sqrt{not}>are you looking at the 3TB disk?
15:12<David_>no... it should be just be legacy because when I put the bios on UEFI with no dvd inside.. it doesn't see my debian OS
15:12<David_>I just found https://askubuntu.com/questions/913397/how-to-change-ubuntu-install-from-legacy-to-uefi
15:13<David_>how can I check?
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15:13<David_>I just tried fdisk in live cd and it didn't work
15:13<David_>maybe I have to install it
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15:14<Sqrt{not}>sudo fdisk?
15:14<David_>I am able to cd into this folder from live cd /sys/firmware/efi
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15:15<Sqrt{not}>no, that's not part of your HDD
15:16<David_>okay I did fdisk -l and i see /dev/sda 7.3 tb and another disk /dev/sdb 2.7 tb
15:16<David_>and
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15:17<David_>;lj
15:17<Sqrt{not}>what is the fdisk output for /dev/sdb1 ?
15:17<David_>and /dev/loop0
15:18<David_>1M BIOS boot
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15:19<Sqrt{not}>probably not an EFI partition then, here my EFI boot partition looks like this: /dev/sda1 2048 1026047 1024000 500M EFI System
15:20<David_>wait do I need to switch my bios to UEFI and then load my live CD ?
15:20<Sqrt{not}>it is good that you can see /sys/firmware/efi but that just means you successfully booted the DVD in EFI mode
15:20<Sqrt{not}>yes
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15:21<Sqrt{not}>but you said you see /sys/firmware/efi already?
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15:21<David_>I'm just following the instructions: Boot (using UEFI) into a live system,
15:21<cpach>hi folks. i would like some confirmation that i'm on the right track w.r.t. system account creation.
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15:21<cpach>let's say i want a system account named 'deploy'
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15:21<cpach>should i then issue the command "useradd -r deploy"?
15:22<Sqrt{not}>David_, then I think that means you already switched to UEFI?
15:22<cpach>should i set their shell to /sbin/nologin?
15:22<David_>Sqrt{not} yes.,... I'm in the live cd and I can see that folder
15:23<David_>i'm on step 1 of https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall
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15:25<rno>matt_the_hall:https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=414227
15:25<judd>Bug https://bugs.debian.org/414227 in gcc-4.2 (closed, wontfix): «gcc-4.2: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No such file or directory»; severity: important; opened: 2007-03-10; last modified: 2007-07-07.
15:27<Sqrt{not}>David_, good, but we need to check your boot partition /dev/sdb1 to see if it is actually created as EFI partition
15:29<Sqrt{not}>I suspect it is not. run 'df' to see if and/or where that partition is mounted
15:29<David_>Sqrt{not} did I understand it correctly? I have a EFI partition on /dev/sdb1 so I have to do the following command mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/boot/efi
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15:29<Sqrt{not}>I am not so sure it is an EFI partition.
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15:30<Sqrt{not}>David_, does the 'df' command give us any info about that partition?
15:30<rno>matt_the_hall: maybe there's an entry with gcc version in: find /usr/lib/ -type f -name cc1
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15:32<David_>I'm on step 2 of https://ibb.co/BcDjxFp
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15:33<Sqrt{not}>David_, you probably have to create the EFI partition if it does not exist. you may need to go down to "Reinstalling grub-efi on your hard drive" lower in your webpage
15:33<Sqrt{not}>David_, I'm away for a while. please answer my question about 'df' and hopefully others will help you
15:34<blast007>is this a system with multiple drives? if so, is it even necessary to have an EFI partition on every drive?
15:34<rno>cpach: with doing required fs structures: useradd -d /home/deploy -m -s /bin/bash -c "Deploy User" deploy
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15:36<David_>Sqrt{not} that's my output https://ibb.co/zQYdNFC
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15:41<Sqrt{not}>David_, OK, I don't see /dev/sdb1 mounted anywhere. I still don't think it is already an EFI partition. But we can look at it.
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15:43<Sqrt{not}>David_, first, get out of that /sys directory: do "cd /"
15:43<David_>well i just booted into live cd and i didn't do anything to covert it to uefi
15:44<Sqrt{not}>David_, look what I said above, about "Reinstalling grub-efi" I'm out of here for a while
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15:45<David_>my bad i'll take a look
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15:45<David_>oh!
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15:47<Sqrt{not}>David_, Actually, I honestly think with where you are starting from , you are probably better off just re-installing in EFI mode (where you are now) -- probably easier and faster
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15:48<Sqrt{not}>David_, and now I _really_ do have to go. good luck. others here know about this stuff.
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15:48<David_>alright sounds good
15:48<David_>thanks for the help...
15:49<David_>is there a way to reinstall without loosing your data ?
15:50<David_>Sqrt{not} thanks for all the help... really appreciate it.
15:50<spofka>yes if you manually install the system and leave out the /home directory
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15:57<David_>really! oh damn.... I'm going through hell doing this when I can just do that an get over with it...
16:00<leofuhr>guys, what do u think about Konqueror?
16:00<leofuhr>Im using it and youtube works better..
16:01<David_>now I feel bad for bugging Sqrt{not}
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16:08<blast007>David__: it'd be a good idea to back up your data before a reinstall
16:09<blast007>also, that /home trick would only work if you put your /home directory on it's own partition
16:09<blast007>!things to backup
16:09<dpkg>Some things you should back up include: /etc /home /root /usr/local /usr/src /opt /srv. Tailor to your own purposes. If you think you don't need /var, make sure you don't forget /var/lib/dpkg /var/backups /var/lib/apt* /var/lib/mysql /var/mail /var/www /var/cache/debconf /var/spool/cron ...
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16:11<David__>oh wow I didn't know all these useful information
16:11<David__>thank
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16:33<gulamtcho>Hi to every one
16:34<gulamtcho>My Debian Laptop dies not Boot to the Main System. Dies someone habe a clue how I could solve it?
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16:40<gulamtcho>Hello,
16:41<gulamtcho>test, can someone read what I am writting?
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16:43<rno>gulamtcho:yes
16:43<gulamtcho>Can someone hell me? My Debian (Version 4.19.0-14) dies not Boot anymore
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16:45<rno>maybe describe the sittuation
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16:47<gulamtcho>I habe made an update Form 4.19.0-13 to 4.19.0-14 and My freespace in the disk is maybe nearly at 0Gb . But else I do not habe a potential answer oft this behaviour
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16:49<rno>maybe describing "this behaviour"...
16:50<rno>there's maybe an error message, grub or kernel
16:51<gulamtcho>OK, I Start the Laptop. I habe a Gruber Dualbooter, I select Debian. Than the checks appear all with green OK. Than I am Abel to enger once a day the password and after enger a small line at the legt top corner in black display appears and hangs
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16:56<rno>it maybe could be resolved with a livecd or a rescue disk, booting with it then clearing some space on the disk
16:56<rno>yet is gone : )
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16:57<rno>ah here again
16:57<rno>it maybe could be resolved with a livecd or a rescue disk, booting with it then clearing some space on the disk
16:58<rno>+ trying booting with the earlier kernel -13-
16:58<gulamtcho>I have already tried with kernel 13. Same behavior
16:59<gulamtcho>What do you think as an issue that I have nearly 0Gb space?
16:59<gulamtcho>Could this be the reason?
17:00<rno>seems yes much things are written on disk on each boot- logs, ...
17:01<rno>yet if it was only that there would be some message seems to me
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17:03<rno>generally useful grub booting page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting#GRUB
17:05<gulamtcho>should I check the system logs in recovery mode?
17:05<rno>maybe trying recovery mode, amongst the grub entry, maybe in a submenu, there are covery entries, trying one of those
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17:05<rno>yes
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17:06<rno>maybe deleting old ones also
17:06<rno>I mean old logs
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17:07<gulamtcho>and what have I to search for? There are a lot of lines. Does it have to be RED highlighted?
17:09<rno>just got it its booting fact yet hangs
17:10<rno>maybe syslog and kern.log
17:10<gulamtcho>There are 1411 Lines in the log
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17:10<rno>with zless /var/log/kern.log
17:11<rno> zless /var/log/syslog
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17:11<rno>pagedown to see last lines
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17:12<jhutchins>gulamtcho: That sounds like a video driver problem.
17:12<jhutchins>gulamtcho: Can you still access the console with Ctrl-Alt-F1?
17:13<gulamtcho>I am on the last page. Nothing red highlighted :/
17:13<jhutchins>gulamtcho: That doesn't usually do color highlighting. You have to actually read the text.
17:13<jhutchins>!Xorg.0.log
17:13<dpkg>Xorg.0.log is in /var/log/ unless you are on stretch-or-later and running X as non-root. Then it's in ~/.local/share/xorg/ instead.
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17:15<jhutchins>gulamtcho: The Xorg log is very noisy, but you can look for lines that begin with EE for errors.
17:15<gulamtcho>OK. I got it. So: Fatal server error:
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17:16<gulamtcho>Cannot open log file ".....Xorg....log"
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17:17<jhutchins>gulamtcho: Sounds like your space issue is the problem.
17:17<gulamtcho>Please consult foundation support
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17:17<gulamtcho>unable to run server
17:17<jhutchins>logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.conf
17:17<jhutchins>Start finding things to truncate or delete.
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17:20<gulamtcho>Does it means that I need to make space free on the disk
17:20<gulamtcho>?
17:21<rno>yes
17:21<rno>df -h
17:21<jhutchins>gulamtcho: That's at least the place to start.
17:22<rno>command "df -h" reports disk space
17:22<rno>precise value with only df
17:23<gulamtcho>disk space: nearly everything is @ 0%
17:24<rno>system runs best if / is approx 50%
17:24<rno>or less
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17:25<gulamtcho>Only /Dev/sda6 has 28Gb, which I wanted to put together with my system drives. But was not really Abel to in such a quick time
17:25<jhutchins>gulamtcho: At less than 5%, some programs won't be able to run. 10% is a good target for a healthy system.
17:26<jhutchins>gulamtcho: du -s <path> can be useful to see what's taking up space.
17:26<rno>df reports used space then its 95% and 90% ^
17:28<gulamtcho>logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.conf lead me to nothing :(
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17:29<rno>if there was a receent update there are maybe much packages on disk, could verify with: du -hs /var/cache/apt/archives
17:30<gulamtcho>-s leads to the feedback msg: command not found
17:31<rno>command is: "du -hs"
17:31<rno>or: "du -s"
17:31<gulamtcho>how can I delete some thing from this command line
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17:33<blast007>'sudo apt clean'
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17:34<jhutchins>gulamtcho: rm <target>
17:35<jhutchins>gulamtcho: You will have to either become root with "su -" or use sudo for most of the commands we suggest.
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17:35<gulamtcho>due -his <path> How the path could look like?
17:36<gulamtcho>*du -hs
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17:36<rno>du -hs /var/cache/apt/archives
17:37<gulamtcho>OK here I get the response with 20K
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17:40<rno>not much to delete there it seems
17:40<gulamtcho>I have the wish/expectation that I could type in: du -hs /Dev/ and then it will show me all the files ordered by size for example
17:41<gulamtcho>Or where the user data resides?
17:42<rno>then its: "du -ha"
17:42<rno>s is summary
17:44<gulamtcho>I have copied a lot of data to USB stick. So I could just delete this on the PC. But how/where to find them?How to get To user documents etc
17:45<rno>in /home/username
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17:45<gulamtcho>du -ha, - :) how can I scroll up in the command line?
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17:47<gulamtcho>Magic happened! I am inside the booted system!! :D
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17:47<gulamtcho>561,9MB free space
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17:56<gulamtcho>I am back again ; )
17:56<gulamtcho>Thx a lot for the help so far
17:57<gulamtcho>Now using webchat from PC instead of smartphone. Much more convenient
17:57<tech_exorcist>I recommend you don't use webchats
17:57<gulamtcho>why not :)
17:57<gulamtcho>?
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17:58<tech_exorcist>there are multiple issues with the under-the-hood stuff
17:58<tech_exorcist>a client such as HexChat (https://hexchat.github.io) is much better
17:58<tech_exorcist>(no, I'm not HexChat's author)
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18:00<gulamtcho>I will check hexchat for sure. But at the moment I need to solve my space issue
18:00<gulamtcho>:)
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18:06<gulamtcho>Is it possible to use this chatroom with HexChat?
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18:06<grawity>yes, search for OFTC in the network list
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18:12<gulamtcho>Hi to all
18:13<gulamtcho>I had the case that I was not able to boot to my debian system because I did not have enough space
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18:13<gulamtcho>I reserved 30GB for Linux dualboot. And seperated it to linux-swap 2GB and ext4 28GB
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18:14<gulamtcho>where I have to be carefully with the space? I guess it is ext4. Am I right or wrong?
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18:19<gulamtcho>No answers, - I guess I have to read the manual :)
18:22<dvs>That space is much too small for me.
18:24<bremner>gulamtcho: it depends what you want to install. You can certainly install a usable system in 28G, but you won't be able to install too many large packages
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18:28<gulamtcho>So I have to be carefully with that 28gb space
18:28<gulamtcho>Yes, it is to small. The reason is that I will move slowly from Win to debian :)
18:29<dvs>Not fast enough!!!
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18:53<pcdummy>gulamtcho: 28GB is little for Linux and your new Data goes to nirvana once its full
18:53<pcdummy>For Linux Desktop
18:53<gulamtcho>hey! I have a partition which consists of 1.linux-swap and 2.ext4
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18:54<gulamtcho>how can I make te ext4 bigger with the tool Gparted?
18:54<pcdummy>easy
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18:54<pcdummy>No other partition?
18:54<pcdummy>Seems you know a lot
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18:55<gulamtcho>Do I have t boot for example with live USB an than touch the parts? Because otherwise GParted tells me that ext4 is in use
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18:56<dvs>gulamtcho: you cannot repartition a live system
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18:56<gulamtcho>No I mean: that I could change the disks of debian on the pc from the USB live
18:56<pcdummy>I always use Linux Mint for that purpose :)
18:57<dvs>!!lart pcdummy
18:57<pcdummy>:)
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18:57<bremner>!grml
18:57<dpkg>grml is a bootable CD (Live CD) originally <based on> Knoppix, now Debian. It includes a collection of GNU/Linux software especially for users of text tools and system administrators. It can be used as a rescue system, for analyzing systems/networks or as a working environment. http://grml.org/ #grml on irc.freenode.net.
18:59<gulamtcho>pcdummy I do have 3 other partitions
18:59<pcdummy>I'm using ventoy to put multiple ISO's on that USB
18:59<gulamtcho><pcdummy>
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19:00<pcdummy>that sounds like resizing - no fun
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19:01<gulamtcho>so does someone have an idea how I coul resize my to small partition with the ext4
19:02<gulamtcho>?? ;)
19:02<jhutchins>gulamtcho: The quickest, most reliable way to resize partitions is to 1) back everything up (you do that anyway), 2)repartition as if you were doing a cold install, 3) restore.
19:02<gulamtcho>Whaaaat :O
19:02<gulamtcho>to much effort for me
19:03<pcdummy>gulamtcho: its MBR?
19:03<gulamtcho>it is sensless just put things on usb and then put them back. I mean I would like to keep all my settings installations stuff
19:04<gulamtcho>MBR, - how can I check it?
19:04<pcdummy>You have an extended Partition ?
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19:04<pcdummy>Well at the end i need to know the layout of the disk
19:04<gulamtcho>I have seen the video https://youtu.be/5y47WD_RRFc but I do have another structure
19:04<pcdummy>Including Windows
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19:05<pcdummy>gulamtcho: your in Linux?
19:05<gulamtcho>at the moment yes
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19:05<pcdummy>you have sudo?
19:05<pcdummy>or work as root? (Which you shouldn't).
19:05<Drew_Swissroll>gulamtcho. Not trying to put you off. But if that's too much effort. That's kind of the debian manifesto. Everything is too much effort by design :)
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19:07<bullseye>hi guys
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19:07<pcdummy>gulamtcho: just do "sudo fdisk -l" then put it on paste.debian.net
19:08<pcdummy>Drew_Swissroll: maybe GNU/Linux means work, but all i know i learned from it :)
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19:11<gulamtcho>My plan was to switch part by part from win10 to debian. So resize the dataspace in debian partly
19:11<gulamtcho>Therefore I am looking for a economic way to aim my target
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19:13<gulam_>http://paste.debian.net/1185500/
19:13<gulam_>pcdummy can you see the content?
19:13<pcdummy>gulamtcho: yes
19:14<pcdummy>gulamtcho: how much memory does your pc have?
19:14<gulam_>about 500GB
19:14<pcdummy>no not HDD RAM ?
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19:15<pcdummy>"free -m" gives you that
19:15<pcdummy>or "top"
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19:15<pcdummy>quit top with "CTRL+C"
19:15<gulam_>8GB RAM
19:15<pcdummy>hmm
19:16<Drew_Swissroll>500GB of ram. OMG he's from the future!
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19:16<gulam_>:D
19:16<Drew_Swissroll>(Just being silly. Sorry)
19:16<pcdummy>gulam_: you could install debian without swap
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19:16<pcdummy>I'm saying this because it would enable you a 3 partition layout
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19:17<pcdummy>Anyone in here has experience with shriking NTFS ?
19:17<gulam_>@pcdummy
19:18<pcdummy>no need for @ :)
19:18<gulam_>you see the sda4? inside my memory layout?
19:18<pcdummy>no need for it
19:18<gulam_>I would like to connect it with the sda6
19:18<pcdummy>its /boot no need with ext4/xfs these times
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19:19<pcdummy>gulam_: you have a hard time when reinstalling linux?
19:19<gulam_>yes actually
19:19<another>Drew_Swissroll: you do realise that there are systems with >1TB RAM, right?
19:19<bullseye>i did shrink ntfs college days
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19:20<pcdummy>gulam_: i see
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19:20<gulam_>you mean that my memory layout does not make sense at all? So that I have to reinstall?
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19:21<pcdummy>gulam_: you should know its easy to extend to the end of partition but not easy for the start (you have to move all data)
19:21<pcdummy>gulam_: its the default and the default disk layout is not always the best
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19:21<pcdummy>bullseye: how hard is it too?
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19:22<pcdummy>bullseye: gulam_ wants to slowly move from win to Debian, you might have seen his paste
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19:22<leaveone>anybody here good with awk and/or shell scripting.. i am trying to take the contents of an input file line by line and search for them in another file
19:22<pcdummy>leaveone: i'm doing good with it
19:23<pcdummy>other than my name says :)
19:23<gulam_>back to keyboard
19:23<leaveone>want to help me figure this out?
19:24<pcdummy>Personaly i would remove sda3/4/5/6 and install linux on single partition without swap and boot on sda3
19:25<pcdummy>leaveone: I
19:25<pcdummy>leaveone: I'm sure input would be good
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19:26<gulam_>I still thinking about your suggestion
19:26<leaveone>pcdummy: I'm comparing firewall rules for that i've got sorted into a csv format
19:27<leaveone>i want to go line by line through the input file, and see if the same line exists anywhere in the other file, because they are not sorted the same
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19:27<pcdummy>leaveone: give me an example of such a line with headers if you have
19:27<koollman>leaveone: exact same lines ?
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19:28<pcdummy>easiest way sound like greping the line in other file
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19:28<koollman>leaveone: fgrep -x -f myinputfile otherfile
19:28<leaveone>koollman: yes, searching for exact same lines
19:28<gulam_>I will continue another time. Thks a lot so far!
19:28<pcdummy>gulam_: hf
19:29<leaveone>pcdummy: there are 2800 lines in the input file, so im trying to put this into a script or have it automated
19:29<koollman>(fgrep to not use regexp, -x to match whole lines only, -f to take patterns from the input file)
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19:29<leaveone>koollman: i will try this now, thanks
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19:30<pcdummy>thats a nice one "-x" :)
19:30<koollman>or, sort and join. might be faster
19:30<koollman>(but maybe not)
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19:32<koollman>pcdummy: -x for lines, -w for words. They can help avoid complex stuff :)
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19:33<pcdummy>koollman: yes, i see and i learned, thanks
19:34<leaveone>koollman: so i redirected the output to another file.. would the output file only show lines that are in both files?
19:34<koollman>leaveone: yes
19:34<pcdummy>koollman: -v ?
19:35<koollman>pcdummy: -v would be the lines not matching. for each pattern
19:35<pcdummy>yeah, pretty sure leaveone needs lines not in there
19:35<pcdummy>but for each pattern wouldn't work
19:36<koollman>"see if the same line exists anywhere in the other file" seems like finding the lines matching :)
19:36<pcdummy>true
19:36<pcdummy>as i was thinking ... ;P
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19:38<leaveone>so, fgrep -x -f file1.csv file2.csv > output would show matching lines but fgrep -x -v -f file1.csv file2.csv > output would show lines that dont match?
19:39<pcdummy>sadly the second not
19:41<koollman>non-matching lines is quite a bit harder with just grep
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19:41<pcdummy>leaveone: have a look at "comm"
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19:42<leaveone>pcdummy: is that a linux command?
19:42<koollman>(but it will require sorting)
19:42<koollman>yes
19:43<pcdummy>It compares sorted files line by line
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19:44<onionsolo>i have a dude, how open hexchat with proxychains?
19:45<sney>hexchat has some basic proxy support, that's probably what you want. see preferences->network
19:45<onionsolo>how use hexchat anonimity
19:45<leaveone>ok, so heres the issue.. im comparing firewall rules from a Juniper device that I ported over to a Palo Alto device so I am trying to see if any rules were missed.. I can't really sort the files because the 2 devices have different syntax in configurations. Me and my coworker have done about all the sorting we can do
19:45<onionsolo>¡?
19:46<pcdummy>leaveone: give me the headers of both files and script you something in some minutes
19:46<pcdummy>or one line
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19:48<onionsolo>someone here know's about use hexchat anonimity?
19:48<pcdummy>I have no dude... :)
19:48<leaveone>pcdummy: working on it
19:49<sney>onionsolo: set up your tor or whatever, then pass it to hexchat with the proxy field in preferences->network. if you are confused, here's the hexchat manual. https://hexchat.rtfd.org,
19:50<onionsolo>thanks sney
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19:52<leaveone>SDP_DATA_1,SDP_SUBNETS,,
19:52<leaveone>SDP_DATA_1,C3P_OOB_NET_SUBNET,,
19:52<leaveone>SDP_DATA_1,,SRV-RCV01,
19:52<leaveone>SDP_DATA_1,,SRV-RCV02,
19:52<leaveone>SDP_DATA_1,,,UDP_514
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19:53<leaveone>pcdummy: i tried to message you privately, did you get it?
19:53<koollman>leaveone: once you have matching lines, you can probably already know if something's missing, or use diff
19:53<pcdummy>leaveone: yes
19:54<leaveone>i got kicked for flooding, even though i used the /msg
19:54<pcdummy>you posted here
19:54<pcdummy>but the headers in query
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19:55<sney>if you need to paste multi-line in a query window, open the query window first. otherwise it will paste to the active window after the first newline
19:56<leaveone>it's been a while since ive irssi/irc.. im using irc from command line
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20:02<timsan>irssi is a nice client
20:02*timsan uses that
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20:08<r4fkramer>Hi all, please, I'd like to know what's going wrong whenever I try to install it using 'backports' repository: https://paste.debian.net/1185504/
20:08<sney>,v clamav
20:08<judd>Package: clamav on amd64 -- jessie: 0.100.0+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 0.101.5+dfsg-0+deb8u2; stretch: 0.102.3+dfsg-0~deb9u1; stretch-proposed-updates: 0.102.3+dfsg-0~deb9u1; stretch-updates: 0.102.3+dfsg-0~deb9u1; buster-updates: 0.102.3+dfsg-0+deb10u1; buster: 0.102.4+dfsg-0+deb10u1; bullseye: 0.103.0+dfsg-3; sid: 0.103.0+dfsg-3
20:09<sney>r4fkramer: there is no clamav in buster-backports.
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20:11<r4fkramer>Thank you very much, sney. I thought it was some of my fault, as this is the first time that I haven't found a package in 'backports'
20:11<sney>next time, you can use tools like 'apt list' or 'apt policy' to see the available versions.
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20:13<r4fkramer>Tried to remember 'apt-cache policy' I always use for this purpose. Thank you.
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20:15<r4fkramer>Anyway, 'freshclam' didn't work: 'initialize: libfreshclam init failed'
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20:20<onionsolo>Hey, someone here knows use burpsuite?
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20:22<sney>r4fkramer: as you know, most programs produce logs that may have more information than stdout
20:22<sney>,i burpsuite
20:23<judd>No package named 'burpsuite' was found in buster/amd64.
20:23<sney>onionsolo: it doesn't seem to be in debian, what OS are you using and what is your real question?
20:24<onionsolo>sorry, i confuse this chat
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20:31<r4fkramer>yes, sney. In fact, it happens.
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20:52<joeDoh>every time I open gnome-calendar which is configured to access remote (on the LAN) calendars I enter the passwords in the dialogue box for the remote access, and I tick the box that says add this password to the keyring. But, it never gets added. I have to add my passwords every time I start gnome-calendar. I'm not even sure what keyring it's talking about, is it gnome or gpg that manages the
20:52<joeDoh>keyring? or something else?
20:54<dvs>probably gnome-wallet
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21:06<joeDoh>any idea why it wouldn't be adding new passwords? searching for gnome-calendar password not getting added to keyring doesn't giving any promising results as searching for gnome-wallet not adding password doesn't give results
21:08<pert>You could try opening 'Passwords & Keys,' also known as Seahorse, and check whether other passwords are being saved in GNOME Keyring that way
21:09<joeDoh>is that in gnome-settings?
21:09<pert>you probably won't be able to get to it from there, it's a separate application, or you could type 'seahorse' in a terminal
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21:15<joeDoh>seahorse worked. I see a list of "Evolution Data Source <calendar name> (Calendar - caldav) of caldav stub" entries. I have used Evolution in the past, but not for a while. I'm not sure if that's what the "Evolution" means. If it does mean that, it means that none of the Radicale passwords that I'm accessing through gnome-calendar are being added
21:16<pert>yes, that's what Evolution means in that context.
21:17<pert>it's strange that the password isn't saving. you could try running 'gnome-calendar' from the terminal and see if it prints a message when it tries to save your password
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21:32<joeDoh>nope, no messages. I started gnome-calendar from the cli, entered my password for Radicale, but nothing appeared on the console. I quit gnome-calendar to see if the saving would fail when I exited. Still no messages. I don't see any gnome-calendar entries in seahorse, either. However, when I restarted gnome-calendar the normal way (dmenu), I didn't get asked for passwords. We'll see if
21:32<joeDoh>that survives a logout and login of my xsession when that happens
21:34<joeDoh>but, thanks, pert. TIL, seahorse
21:34<pert>no problem
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22:00<leaveone>timsan: is there a good tutorial on irssi?
22:01<sney>there are probably HOWTOs around, but irssi is from the era of software where you'd just look at the manual and read the /help for commands and try to use it
22:02<leaveone>sney: ok, thanks
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22:44<David>spofka, can you explain to me what do you mean by manual installation? do you mean manual installation in a way that I don't change my already existing Debian partitions and leave the partitions as is..
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22:45<David>I'm trying to install Debian in UEFI mode on top of my Legacy mode Debian installation... But I'm trying to not loose any data... (I've already backed up the important Linux files).
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22:51<pcdummy>David: never did so, but that shouldn't be that hard
22:51<pcdummy>David: you have the possibility to create an EFI partition (FAT Partition) ?
22:53<David>well right now im in the manual installation... I have biosgrup, ext4, swap and FREE SPACE
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22:54<pcdummy>GPT or MBR ?
22:54<pcdummy>"sudo parted -l"
22:55<pcdummy>somethink like "msdos" for /dev/sda?
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22:57<pcdummy>David: i forgot you have to install "apt install parted"
23:00<David>no what I'm trying to do is that I already have BIOS version of Debian installed... but I'm in the installation area and I chose manual and I see the partitions of my old Debian that I'm trying to reinstall with UEFI enabled feature
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23:00<David>is Debian installed in ext4 because I'm seeing that being the largest partition (3 TB) from the rest
23:00<pcdummy>David: there's no "Install UEFI Debian on-top of Debian XYZ"
23:01<pcdummy>The installer can erase and install or install a second one
23:01<dvs>David: you need to boot the installer such that it has UEFI on the starting screen
23:02<pcdummy>dvs: am I right, you can't install debian on top of debian?
23:02<dvs>pcdummy: you're correct.
23:02<David>I guess I stand corrected... rebooting the system looking for UEFI
23:03<David>I see it now "Debian GNU/Linux UEFI Installer menu"
23:03<pcdummy>David: still your trying to convert BIOS Debian to UEFI Debian, right?
23:04<David>nope... it's a bit too advance for me... I'm just trying to install UEFI mode on top of BIOS mode (to replace it)
23:05<pcdummy>David: then stop messing around with installer
23:06<pcdummy>+te
23:07<pcdummy>David: if you want to replace and loose all files go forward, if not you have to do advanced stuff, yes.
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23:15<David>so there's no reinstalling Debian... and keeping your files... eh fuck it... I have the important files backed up... I'll just copy it back when I'm done with the installation
23:16<jochum>That should work :) (I was pcdummy minutes ago)
23:18<jochum>David: but remember, i guide you through if you have a GPT partitioned disk and its not that hard
23:20<David>how can I find out if I have a GPT partition disk
23:21<jochum>"sudo parted -l" gives you that
23:21<jochum>ohh also "fdisk -l"
23:21<jochum>no need to install parted
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23:24<David>ya I have gpt partition disk https://ibb.co/Vwrq4mR
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23:25<jochum>nice
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23:25<jochum>http://blog.getreu.net/projects/legacy-to-uefi-boot/
23:26<jochum>I guide you through if you want
23:27<jochum>!grml
23:27<dpkg>grml is a bootable CD (Live CD) originally <based on> Knoppix, now Debian. It includes a collection of GNU/Linux software especially for users of text tools and system administrators. It can be used as a rescue system, for analyzing systems/networks or as a working environment. http://grml.org/ #grml on irc.freenode.net.
23:27<jochum>Seems to be the LiveCD people here use
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23:34<David>okay I guess I have to go google grml nad download it
23:34<jochum>Then go make a usb with ventoy and copy the iso on it
23:35<David>the before you start section... I know how to get into #2
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23:35<David>I can't burn the ISO on a DVD and do that
23:36<jochum>ofc you can
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23:37<David>I've never tried grml it sounds interesting
23:37<David>I'm downloading it right now..
23:37<David>do I need it?
23:38<jochum>You need a Live Linux, yes
23:38<David>or can I just use the debian live CD and boot into rescute mode
23:38<David>oh... I'll use the grml then
23:38<David>I have tons of debian live CDs around from this morning
23:38<jochum>I'll do the same as you do here
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