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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-03-06

---Logopened Sat Mar 06 00:00:07 2021
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00:52<leaveone>anybody on debian have issues running AppImage files because of /tmp permissions?
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01:51<Guest771>i have a general question about udev
01:51<Guest771> if i connect a USB device that i have a symlink rule for (say a USB to serial adapter) after the computer is already booted, how do i reload the rules so my symlink name is loaded?
01:51<Guest771>i tried sudo udevadm control --reload-rules and sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart but it never picks up symlink, only after a reboot
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05:36<mator>what is used inside debian installed to make a label of a disk? there's no fdisk or parted
05:36<mator>inside debian installer
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05:47<diogenes_oftc>mator, xorriso
05:47<mator>diogenes_oftc, there's seem to be parted.udeb file, but how do i extract it inside debian installer ?
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08:33<noranekoit>hi
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08:51<micha>hi
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09:01<h-var>hey guys, I tried to use dd and wipe on my SATA 4tb drive, but the speed is super slow, like 100 bytes per second, and it gives me 2.9 years ETA
09:01<h-var>even though copying is 150mB
09:01<h-var>\s and writing 120mB\s
09:02<h-var>how can I make it fast?
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09:02<h-var>maybe better tools?
09:02<liquidsnake>i would have just used gparted
09:02<liquidsnake>but thats just me
09:02<liquidsnake>not sure why its taking that long with dd though
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09:07<h-var>how can I make dd show me the speed of writing?
09:07<h-var>"verbalizing"?
09:07<h-var>verbose
09:08<h-var>I use Qt apps since I'm on KDE liquid
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09:09<h-var>the drive has been initialized (first blocks are wiped now), so now kde partition manager and gparted don't give me the option to wipe anymore
09:09<b2ag>h-var: killall -SIGUSR1 dd; sleep 10; killall -SIGUSR1 dd # than use calculator :)
09:09<h-var>are there any other apps with gui which I can monitor for speed?
09:10<liquidsnake>https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-unix-test-disk-performance-with-dd-command/
09:10<milkt>h-var: dd ... status=progress
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09:10<h-var>thanks!
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09:12<h-var>"dd if=/dev/zero of /dev/sdX bs=1M status=progress"?
09:12<milkt>you are missing "=" right behind of
09:12<milkt>but something like that
09:12<milkt>test it first with not important data i guess
09:13<h-var>you're right - dd works much faster than wipe!
09:13<h-var>i'm getting 250mB\s
09:13<h-var>!
09:13<h-var>but maybe it's only in the beginning since first sectors were already zeroed out
09:14<milkt>why are you writing zero to there by the way?
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09:22<h-var>for performance
09:22<milkt>what performance?
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09:23<h-var>I am moving data between drives, and I think it will be the best for the drive read speeds to place the new data on a clean drive?
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10:01<h-var>isn't that the right thing to do to keep the drive in good condition???
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10:02<h-var>you would normally wipe the drive before allocating it to a new data, then write data onto it, then defragment the drive?
10:02<h-var>isn't that what all people do? :D
10:02<Sqrt{not}>h-var, not what I would do
10:02<h-var>or am I just OCD-ing over it haha
10:02<h-var>it could be just OCD
10:02<milkt>is it HDD or SSD?
10:03<h-var>HDD I plan to use as a read only archive for my personal data as a backup
10:03<milkt>do you know what S.M.A.R.T. is?
10:04<Sqrt{not}>wiping should only be needed if you have some secret data you don't want anybody to find ever. defragmenting is some kind of DOS thing, don'
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10:04<Sqrt{not}>don't think it applies to debian filesystems
10:04<bleb>zfs stopped working when i rebooted
10:04<bleb>when i try modprobe zfs i get modprobe: FATAL: Module zfs not found in directory /lib/modules/4.19.0-14-amd64
10:04<h-var>ext4 doesn't require defragmenting?
10:04<h-var>it writes sector per sector?
10:04<bleb>known issue? did i do something wrong?
10:05<milkt>e2fsck will be enough for ext4 i think?
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10:06<h-var>sqrt I just always used NTFS, and I found that cleaning up the drive, then defragmenting it after writing new data gives much better read speeds. I didn't know that ext file system doesn't require defragmenting
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10:10<Sqrt{not}>for a read-only backup archive, the tiny amount of theoretical read speed improvement will be much much less time saved than the amount of time you are investing in zeroing and defragmenting (if you can even find a "defragment" tool for ext4)
10:11<Sqrt{not}>probably already less savings than the time we are wasting talking about it
10:11<h-var>if you take into account all time in total, you might be right haha
10:12<milkt>h-var: if you are using HDD, take a look at S.M.A.R.T. information of HDD
10:12<h-var>actually, zeroing the drive before using it as an archive is a great thing
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10:13<h-var>think this - if you will need to restore raw data from it after some problems, like an accidental file, or folder deletion, it will be much easier to do that
10:13<h-var>because it won't be mixed up with the noise data that is still existing on the drive
10:14<h-var>the old data that is
10:14<milkt>speed of copying raw data do not depend on data i think
10:15<milkt>it would be make difference if you are compressing it though
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10:16<milkt>dpkg: tell h-var about smartd
10:16<milkt>check that as well
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10:20<h-var>dpkg smartd
10:20<dpkg>The smartmontools package provides the smartctl and smartd utilities, used to control/monitor devices supporting "Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology" built into modern ATA and SCSI hard disks. After installation, read /usr/share/doc/smartmontools/README.Debian for initial configuration and upstream recommendations. http://sf.net/apps/trac/smartmontools/wiki/FAQ http://smartmontools.sf.net/
10:21<Sqrt{not}>h-var, in general ext4 writes files contiguously, not mixed up with anything else. see: https://superuser.com/questions/536788/do-ext4-filesystems-need-to-be-defragmented
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10:37<Sqrt{not}>h-var, ?? is this after your dd experiment?
10:37<h-var>sqrt wow I didn't know that ext4 defragments itself automatically
10:38<h-var> compared to ntfs, ext4 is like space tech lol
10:39<rudi_s>Since when does ext4 defragment itself? It doesn't AFAIK and it's just relatively smart when allocating new files to prevent fragmentation. But most modern file systems do this.
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11:07<sig_9>are we still having to do: dpkg --add-architecture i386 if you want to install 'steam' ?
11:08<milkt>i think so: https://wiki.debian.org/Steam
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11:19<dreamer>that wiki is also extremely outdated. I doubt that steam still emulates ubuntu 12.04
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12:02<ghoulstarter>hello, how come i can mount one crypted partition, and the other crypted partition can't be mounted throwing a error-msg "not authorized to perform operation"?
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12:13<milkt>do you have proper permission? and is command parameter correct?
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12:18<ghoulstarter>milkt: i mount it using thunar in GUI. i had the same permissions for all crypted partitions but some work other don't how can i check if i have the permissions? in Gnome it prompted for root password then key for crypted partition in xfce it just ask for the key.
12:19<grove>ghoulstarter: There's a good chance milkt is right, that it is a matter of permssions. But there are multiple ways to encrypt partitions, so please be more specific on how you made those partitions, and what you're trying to do with them
12:20<ghoulstarter>milkt: it's wrapped around the gnome login problem and UTF-8 problem from yesterday.
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12:23<milkt>maybe try mounting it with command...? is there any difference between two partition?
12:23<ghoulstarter>grove: they are luks encrypted partitions with ext2 filesystem i created them 2005 using fedora. Back then i just passed the key at boot time and all partitions (6 all with the same key) got mounted and i could work. After switching to debian 10 i couldn't get the automounting to work.
12:25<milkt>also check output of "cryptsetup luksDump <partition>" maybe...
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12:47<ghoulstarter>do i open a luks-partition once or after every reboot? cryptsetup luksOpen <device> <name>, because currently i just have 1 device in /dev/mapper/dm-0
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13:27<laure>hello, I am trying to boot a debian-based distro (crunchbang++) from iso. I'm additionally asking here since its community is only a subreddit.
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13:28<ghoulstarter>milkt: i guess i had to do a luksOpen on all my crypted partitions first so that there is a dev for mounting. I am rebooting to find out ...
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13:29<ghoulstarter>!ask
13:29<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ See <smart questions><errors>.
13:29<laure>but basically, what should I look for when findiso=$iso_path kernel parameter does not work, and I also the kernel doesn't seem to have the loopback module.
13:29<laure>and also*
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13:30<laure>it is including 4.19 kernel on its installation. It should have the loopback module built-in unless they manually removed it, right?
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13:38<Sqrt{not}>!crunchbang
13:38<dpkg>CrunchBang Linux is a Live CD distribution originally based on <Ubuntu>, now based on Debian as of version 10, featuring the <Openbox> window manager. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.crunchbang.org/ #crunchbang on irc.freenode.net. See <based on debian>.
13:38<Sqrt{not}>laure, looks like they do have an IRC channel
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13:39<laure>oh! nice to know! thanks. I missed it if it's on the site
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13:40<laure>ohh that's because it's the old crunchbang. Crunchbang++ is a revival of that based on debian not ubuntu
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13:41<laure>that link redirects to bunsenlabs which is a different one
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13:44<petn-randall>laure: Ah, in that case you'll have to ask in the subreddit then. Any Debian-derived distros are not supported in here.
13:44<petn-randall>!based on debian
13:44<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
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13:46<laure>hmm, let's hope I get some useful reply there then. I was just curious about the debian kernel (that I'm sure is unchanged). Thanks anyway
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13:47<ghoulstarter>if i try to give the plymouth daemon my password for a crypted partition it hangs the prompt after 2 characters and won't react after that until i do a "Ctrl" + "Alt" + "remove". Somebody knows a fix for that?
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13:52<Gerowen>Is there any particular reason the Grub bootloader is different if you LUKS encrypt your drive than if you don't? Was going to customize my Grub, but wasn't sure if there was anything significantly different or if it's just different appearance settings.
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13:56<ghoulstarter>Gerowen: if there were something different it would make sense why i have trouble using my luks partitions lately...
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13:59<Gerowen>ghoulstarter: I've never had any issues, I just noticed that if you install Debian without encryption you get a slightly prettier Grub setup with a wallpaper image, and if you encrypt your system drive you get a sort of plain old school text-only look. I wouldn't think it would be any different since the bootloader is stored outside of the encrypted part of the drive, but I'm just curioius if changing it would break anything or not.
13:59<Gerowen>Guess I could experiment in a VM.
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14:02<scorpion2185[m]>is the kernel from buster-backports fixed?nvidia-driver problem
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14:06<sney>Gerowen: it's because the images are stored in /usr/share, so grub can't see them until the luks volume is unlocked. it looks like 05_debian_theme in /etc/grub.d/ could be able to be tweaked to copy the image to /boot/grub instead, though I haven't tried.
14:06<sney>(also the wallpapers themselves are packaged in desktop-base)
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14:06<sney>scorpion2185[m]: which nvidia-driver problem? there have been a couple
14:06<Gerowen>sney: Ah that makes sense then.
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14:20<deedy>how many ram KDE is using
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15:20<sloopy>hello everyone. i'm having trouble after the buster 5.10 kernel update. my realtek firmware is not loading. "firmware: failed to load rtw88/rtw8822b_fw.bin (-2)" "probe of 0000:04:00.0 failed with error -22"
15:21<sney>,file rtw88/rtw8822b_fw.bin --release buster-backports
15:21<judd>Search for rtw88/rtw8822b_fw.bin in buster-backports/amd64: firmware-realtek: lib/firmware/rtw88/rtw8822b_fw.bin
15:21<towo`>and after you using a backport kernel, you have the firmware from backports instaööed too?
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15:22<sloopy>strange. i don't remember installing a backports kernel
15:23<sloopy>and indeed, i don't see the firmware in /lib/firmware anymore even after reinstalling (from regular buster repo)
15:23<sney>that's the only way you'd have anything higher than 4.19 on buster
15:24<sloopy>i guess i should have paid better attention while updating. what could cause my kernel to update to the backported version? i'm certain i didn't install it manually
15:25<milkt>sloopy: check your sourcec.list?
15:25<sney>another possibility is you somehow upgraded to testing or sid
15:26<sloopy>yeah i have backports, but i didn't install the kernel from backports
15:26<sloopy>i'm definitely on buster still judging by my gnome being the same old
15:27<sney>what does 'apt policy linux-image-amd64' tell you?
15:27<sloopy>linux-image-amd64:
15:27<sloopy> Installed: 5.10.13-1~bpo10+1
15:27<sloopy> Candidate: 5.10.13-1~bpo10+1
15:27<sloopy> Version table:
15:27<sloopy> *** 5.10.13-1~bpo10+1 100
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15:28<sloopy> Installed: 5.10.13-1~bpo10+1
15:28<sloopy> Version table:
15:28<milkt>!paste
15:28<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: https://paste.debian.net | pics/screenshots: https://imgbb.com/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): https://filebin.net or https://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <termbin>.
15:28<sloopy>whoopsie
15:29<sloopy>http://paste.debian.net/1188164/
15:29<sney>anyway, yes, you did install the kernel from backports, because there it is.
15:29<sney>if you have backports enabled, this is probably why, and then you forgot?
15:29<sloopy>thing is this happened suddenly yesterday.
15:30<milkt>did you installed something yesterday
15:30<sney>did you reboot yesterday after being up for a while?
15:31<sloopy>oh
15:31<sloopy>i installed wireguard from buster-backports
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15:35<scorpion2185[m]><sney "scorpion2185: which nvidia-drive"> I don' t know kernel failed to load modules, no GUI. Also kernel from stable 4.19.0-14-amd64 has the same problem. So i am using the 4.19.0-13-amd64 now.
15:36<sney>scorpion2185[m]: that sounds like the build issue that was introduced with 5.9. yes it's been resolved for a while now. make sure you also use nvidia-driver from backports along with the kernel.
15:37<sney>scorpion2185[m]: also, please consider using a different reply style, that matrix one is horrible on the irc end :)
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15:37<scorpion2185[m]>Are there other reply style? i am on revolt.
15:38<scorpion2185[m]>sney: Ah yes I can tagusers.
15:38<scorpion2185[m]> * sney: Ah yes I can tag users.
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15:43<sloopy>so will installing wireguard from backports automatically install the backported kernel as well?
15:44<milkt>probably if you configured apt to install recommended i guess
15:44<sloopy>i haven't configured anything
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15:45<milkt>i mean it install recommended package as default
15:46<milkt>maybe not, not sure how i check complete dependency tree without enabling it
15:46<milkt>s/it/backports/
15:47<sloopy>ok i just tested in my vm. yes, installing wireguard from backports will pull in the backported kernel
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15:51<sney>scorpion2185[m]: much better, thanks
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15:52<sloopy>success! i just installed the firmware from backports and everything works :o) thanks
15:52<milkt>good to hear that
15:53<milkt>always good to check list of package are you isntalling... or use dry run as well
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17:39<jhutchins>Mister00X: If you block joins/parts it won't bother you.
17:40<Mister00X>jhutchins: true
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17:43<jhutchins>Mister00X: There are enenough people coming and going that I find it improves the experienec to do so.
17:43<jhutchins>On the other hand, I often post to people who've left, or whoever's list tab completes instead.
17:44<Mister00X>yes thats why i dont block parts
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19:34<leaveone>i am running debian 10, what are the appropriate perms for /tmp? i changed them while troubleshooting something and now apt wont work..
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19:39<blast007>leaveone: from an ls -l: drwxrwxrwt 24 root root 280K Mar 6 18:21 tmp
19:39<themill>1777
19:39<themill>it can be nosuid,nodev but not noexec
19:40<leaveone>ok thanks
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20:06<KoaX357>i have a general question about udev
20:06<KoaX357> if i connect a USB device that i have a symlink rule for (say a USB to serial adapter) after the computer is already booted, how do i reload the rules so my symlink name is loaded?
20:06<KoaX357>i tried sudo udevadm control --reload-rules and sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart but it never picks up symlink, only after a reboot
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